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2013-02-28 12:36:11 PM

Fano: So, they banned everyone that are dogs in China's view/? Wait, then the Han solely are allowed in.


I see what you did there
 
2013-02-28 12:37:32 PM
so what do you called a chinese person who is anti japanese and korean but are cool with whites, blacks and latinos?
 
2013-02-28 12:42:20 PM

SuperNinjaToad: so what do you called a chinese person who is anti japanese and korean but are cool with whites, blacks and latinos?


Al Leong?
 
2013-02-28 12:47:12 PM

Gergesa: Frozboz: The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days.  A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city.  Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem.  Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer.  Good stuff.

Honestly this wouldn't surprise me.  I'm not sure what their story for Hiroshima and Nagasaki is but I wager it reads something like "The Japanese imperialists dogs were fighting so hard against our brave soldiers the Americans were able to slip through and hit them with atomic bombs just as secretly planned."

Something like that anyway.


My dad and I were just talking about Southeast Asia the other day (I have no idea why). Apparently, in Korean textbooks, the two bombs the US dropped on Japan are labeled "a good start".

// Koreans hate the Japanese, is what I gather
 
2013-02-28 12:56:49 PM

indarwinsshadow: Back about 10 years ago, America renamed French fries freedom fries. In some northwestern states you see outright hostility towards Canadians from just across the border in Alberta or Saskatchewan because Canada refused to participate in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Dickheadeness isn't excluse subby.


We went on a bus tour to Reno shortly after that happened. The bus driver was telling us that twice a week, he used to stop off at one particular restaurant in a little shiat-hole down and dump his load of 50-60 passengers there for lunch. Other bus drivers he knew used to do the same. After "Freedom Fries" appeared on the menu, the owner of that restaurant told the bus driver that Canadians were no longer welcome there. The stupid burned so much that it hurt.
 
2013-02-28 12:57:32 PM

Dr Dreidel: // Koreans hate the Japanese, is what I gather


OOOOOh yeah...
 
2013-02-28 12:58:04 PM

Dr Dreidel: Gergesa: Frozboz: The Chinese disdain for Japanese is pretty high these days.  A cousin of mine living in China told me during that recent brush-up over the disputed islands between the two countries, anything Japanese just wasn't welcome in his city.  Even cars and motorcycles would get vandalized unless the owner would paste a Chinese flag over the Honda or Toyota emblem.  Crazy.

He also tells stories about what the school teach their kids about Japan - how the brave Chinese beat back Japanese aggression in WW2 (with no mention of the US) and how Japan begged China not to invade and conquer.  Good stuff.

Honestly this wouldn't surprise me.  I'm not sure what their story for Hiroshima and Nagasaki is but I wager it reads something like "The Japanese imperialists dogs were fighting so hard against our brave soldiers the Americans were able to slip through and hit them with atomic bombs just as secretly planned."

Something like that anyway.

My dad and I were just talking about Southeast Asia the other day (I have no idea why). Apparently, in Korean textbooks, the two bombs the US dropped on Japan are labeled "a good start".

// Koreans hate the Japanese, is what I gather


Most Westerners don't realized that the brutality, rape, torture and mass murders committed by the Imperial Japanese Army on the entire Asian continent durring WW II made the Holocaust looked like a walk in the park.

Not surprisingly Hollywood are also more partial to making movies that focuses more on the atrocities of the German on the European/Jewish side of the conflict than it does the Asian/Pacific campaign done by the Japanese.
 
2013-02-28 12:58:28 PM
This doesn't make sense. Everyone knows that only white men can be racist.

/oh noes, what about the menz!
 
2013-02-28 01:03:27 PM
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2013-02-28 01:06:41 PM
This is so sad. So, if I were a regular ol' dude in Tokyo, who liked to travel all the way to one specific crappy little lunch joint in Beijing, CHINA for lunch, I wouldn't be able to do that?

This is OUTRAGE!
 
2013-02-28 01:09:42 PM

Dr Dreidel: // Koreans hate the Japanese, is what I gather


I've read the talk pages on wikipedia discussing asian territorial disputes and it has been my observation that koreans and japanese appear to be in something of a love hate relationship. They do a fair amount of commerce with each other and develop strong friendships on that level but waiting like a storm in the distance are territorial/historical disputes that boil over and result in vicious hate fests where xenophobia(from both sides) comes out in full force.

/koreans aren't so fond of the chinese either.
 
2013-02-28 01:12:29 PM
Rednecks in the South could take notes on the kind of blatant racism encountered in Asia.
 
2013-02-28 01:13:32 PM
Dear China: May you live in interesting times.
 
2013-02-28 01:16:38 PM

stuffy: NO DOGS ALOUD!
Threw the front door.


Must not have been a very heavy door.
 
2013-02-28 01:17:13 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Not surprisingly Hollywood are also more partial to making movies that focuses more on the atrocities of the German on the European/Jewish side of the conflict than it does the Asian/Pacific campaign done by the Japanese.


Asian cinema tends to focus more on the Pacific side of the conflict (The Pacific and Band of Brothers notwithstanding - both were HUGE, and thanks to Tom Hanks' WWI-boner, more Americans will learn). I'll pause while the class brainstorms possible reasons why.

// the Japanese Imperial Army were Supreme Dicks, but at least they and zee Germans offered apology after apology
// and in the last 60 years, both have done bang-up jobs of making nice with the rest of the world
// while China has been...less than warm and friendly (ditto Best Korea)
// watching one of those two series (I forget which), my roommates and I now call a situation where you royally fark up a much stronger opponent "getting Dick Winterized"
 
2013-02-28 01:17:44 PM

miniflea: bedtundy: Cubicle Jockey: China's belligerence over the South China Sea was the best thing to happen to America's reputation among non-China nations there.

China believes that everything there that is not blatently in other people's territorial waters belongs to China.

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I've always wondered if China thought they were just going to take it all after WW2.  Those countries have been at war (I consider the past 30 years a cooling period) with each other for about as long as the middle east.

After Japan surrendered, the Chinese resumed their civil war that had been so rudely interrupted in 1936.


True, I had forgotten about the continuation of their civil war form 1940-1949.  Fighting really picked up after the Japanese surrender, as you said.  I was meaning more after Mao got into to power.  It seemed at that time there was Russia pushing westward while China seemed to want to push towards the south and east.  More so through proxy wars on their part (North Korea/Vietnam).  I always thought they were going for a larger unification than what they ended up with.
 
2013-02-28 01:20:30 PM

Dr Dreidel: thanks to Tom Hanks' WWII-boner


Obvious, but important.
 
mjg
2013-02-28 01:22:18 PM
media.screened.com

Pffft. Old news.
 
2013-02-28 01:23:23 PM
This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.
 
2013-02-28 01:27:38 PM
Zenith:

 [T]owards the end when the Allies etc were beating the living daylights out of the Axis only the Chinese were actually losing battles and territory to the Japanese.

The Maoists and the KMT were too busy fighting each other and fighting among themselves, especially the KMT (which was also so corrupt the higher officers would sell their ammunition to the Maoists and send their own men off to face the Japanese damn near empty-handed). There were also a few large factions that were pro-Japanese or at least preferred to "go along to get along." And if my knowledge of human nature if correct most Chinese, like most people everywhere, just kept their heads down and hoped the guys with guns wouldn't notice them.

Not even during the Cultural Revolution was China a cohesive society, not even at the top levels. Aside from the majority thinking of themselves as Han Chinese, favoring rice over wheat and writing with the same characters there's really no such thing as "the Chinese people." China always has been more like an empire than a nation-state, and without armed force from Beijing "China" would fragment into a dozen or so Warring States almost right away.
 
2013-02-28 01:37:09 PM
If i remember correctly, dog are often reference to round-eye people, gwello. So may be they just equal opportunity haters.
 
2013-02-28 01:38:42 PM
The dogs can still come in through the back door.
 
2013-02-28 01:39:26 PM

The One True TheDavid: Zenith:

 [T]owards the end when the Allies etc were beating the living daylights out of the Axis only the Chinese were actually losing battles and territory to the Japanese.

The Maoists and the KMT were too busy fighting each other and fighting among themselves, especially the KMT (which was also so corrupt the higher officers would sell their ammunition to the Maoists and send their own men off to face the Japanese damn near empty-handed). There were also a few large factions that were pro-Japanese or at least preferred to "go along to get along." And if my knowledge of human nature if correct most Chinese, like most people everywhere, just kept their heads down and hoped the guys with guns wouldn't notice them.

Not even during the Cultural Revolution was China a cohesive society, not even at the top levels. Aside from the majority thinking of themselves as Han Chinese, favoring rice over wheat and writing with the same characters there's really no such thing as "the Chinese people." China always has been more like an empire than a nation-state, and without armed force from Beijing "China" would fragment into a dozen or so Warring States almost right away.


Stillwell in China

http://www.amazon.com/Stilwell-American-Experience-China-1911-45/dp/ 08 02138527
 
2013-02-28 01:43:10 PM

you_idiot: This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.


OK, a hot chinese

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A hot vietnamese

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And a hot korean

data.whicdn.com

enjoy.
 
2013-02-28 01:44:15 PM

you_idiot: This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.


Oh you said women....silly me...
 
2013-02-28 01:49:38 PM

Yogimus: ... how can they tell?


Fifth post. Fark I am disappoint
 
2013-02-28 01:52:47 PM
He's just banning Dog? Is this same dog that Liam Neeson threatened?
 
2013-02-28 01:54:24 PM
They had to ban them because they just kept ordering long pig.
 
2013-02-28 01:55:39 PM

dabbletech: The dogs can still come in through the back door.


I think I've seen that movie...
 
2013-02-28 01:56:57 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: shiat, this reminds me - my wife wants me to go out on my lunch break to pick her up some Chinese food.   The tie-in being this particular Chinese place is in the same plaza area as the local "Family Planning" facility.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-28 02:04:24 PM
Half Jap. half Flip.
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-28 02:10:19 PM
It's twice as bad if the filipino or Vietnamese customer just had dog beforehand.
 
2013-02-28 02:11:06 PM

DittoToo: Half Jap. half Flip.
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Drool
 
2013-02-28 02:21:43 PM
Instead of banning them, why don't they just play a joke on them?
 
2013-02-28 02:27:42 PM

hdhale: show me: How about the French? They HAVE to ban the French.

And the Irish.


what about the ni@@ers?
 
2013-02-28 02:37:24 PM

Gergesa: you_idiot: This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.

OK, a hot chinese

[img27.imageshack.us image 640x577]

A hot vietnamese

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x374]

And a hot korean

[data.whicdn.com image 400x559]

enjoy.


I can't Jap to this.
 
2013-02-28 02:49:20 PM

Gergesa: you_idiot: This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.

OK, a hot chinese

[img27.imageshack.us image 640x577]

A hot vietnamese

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x374]

And a hot korean

[data.whicdn.com image 400x559]

enjoy.


BRING THE VIETNAMESE BOY TO MY BED!
 
2013-02-28 02:56:39 PM

Gergesa: you_idiot: This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.

Oh you said women....silly me...


Looking for hot chinese dog got me this:
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2013-02-28 03:01:16 PM

DittoToo: Half Jap. half Flip.
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 579x578]


So...it's on a diagonal?
 
2013-02-28 03:03:24 PM

durbnpoisn: Yogimus: ... how can they tell?

You know what makes this funny...  Here in NJ, almost every person working in every sushi restaurant in the state is, in fact, Chinese.  And no one knows the difference, or apparently cares.


in LA we order our chenese, sushi, korean BBQ or tai food the same in spanish. it's all good pedro
 
2013-02-28 03:19:33 PM

Gergesa: you_idiot: This thread sucks.

If anything, it should have already degenerated into a posting war of hot Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese women and dogs for comparison.

OK, a hot chinese

[img27.imageshack.us image 640x577]

A hot vietnamese

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x374]

And a hot korean

[data.whicdn.com image 400x559]

enjoy.


hmmm I think he was hoping for the other Asian gender..
 
2013-02-28 03:21:07 PM
"No spiders and Visigoths allowed"

/obscure?
 
2013-02-28 03:29:21 PM
They do serve dogs, just not as clients. The pork is dog. The beef is horse, the chicken is pigeon or possibly cat.
 
2013-02-28 03:32:09 PM

durbnpoisn: Yogimus: ... how can they tell?

You know what makes this funny...  Here in NJ, almost every person working in every sushi restaurant in the state is, in fact, Chinese.  And no one knows the difference, or apparently cares.


In Vegas, they're mostly Korean. At least at the sushi places in Chinatown.
 
2013-02-28 03:41:54 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: shiat, this reminds me - my wife wants me to go out on my lunch break to pick her up some Chinese food.   The tie-in being this particular Chinese place is in the same plaza area as the local "Family Planning" facility.


There's nothing like locally sourced ingredients.

i3.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-28 04:09:29 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Dr Dreidel: My dad and I were just talking about Southeast Asia the other day (I have no idea why). Apparently, in Korean textbooks, the two bombs the US dropped on Japan are labeled "a good start".

// Koreans hate the Japanese, is what I gather

Most Westerners don't realized that the brutality, rape, torture and mass murders committed by the Imperial Japanese Army on the entire Asian continent durring WW II made the Holocaust looked like a walk in the park.

Not surprisingly Hollywood are also more partial to making movies that focuses more on the atrocities of the German on the European/Jewish side of the conflict than it does the Asian/Pacific campaign done by the Japanese.



A lot of the outrage in Korea today stems from the fact that Japan has never acknowledged, much less apologized for, these war crimes, and some of the worst war criminals are paid respect even today.  It would be as if German textbooks made no mention of concentration camps, and the Chancellor of Germany laid flowers on Herman Goering's grave once a year.
 
2013-02-28 04:18:48 PM

ciberido: SuperNinjaToad: Dr Dreidel: My dad and I were just talking about Southeast Asia the other day (I have no idea why). Apparently, in Korean textbooks, the two bombs the US dropped on Japan are labeled "a good start".

// Koreans hate the Japanese, is what I gather

Most Westerners don't realized that the brutality, rape, torture and mass murders committed by the Imperial Japanese Army on the entire Asian continent durring WW II made the Holocaust looked like a walk in the park.

Not surprisingly Hollywood are also more partial to making movies that focuses more on the atrocities of the German on the European/Jewish side of the conflict than it does the Asian/Pacific campaign done by the Japanese.


A lot of the outrage in Korea today stems from the fact that Japan has never acknowledged, much less apologized for, these war crimes, and some of the worst war criminals are paid respect even today.  It would be as if German textbooks made no mention of concentration camps, and the Chancellor of Germany laid flowers on Herman Goering's grave once a year.


That's a bingo.

Also, "we were invited, and their women happily provided comfort to our visitors on tour."
 
2013-02-28 04:22:03 PM

Arkanaut: Fano: So, they banned everyone that are dogs in China's view/? Wait, then the Han solely are allowed in.

I see what you did there


;)
 
2013-02-28 04:24:57 PM
rape of Nanking
bataan death march
Mindanao
kalagong massacre
laha massacre
manilla massacre

sooo many others
and then politicians pay homage to the 'honorable' officers who made it all happen.
Absolutely disgusting
 
2013-02-28 04:26:11 PM
There are many businesses in Japan that ban anyone who isn't Japanese. This is usually seen at bars and nightclubs where Japanese women are made available for customers, and owners don't want these women to be contaminated by gaijin.
 
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