kmmontandon: It's shocking that a company would limit how much free stuff they're willing to give away.How can they expect to run on such a business model?
Gig103: "After a close look at our overall listening, a 40-hour-per-month mobile listening limit allows us to manage these escalating costs with minimal listener disruption." ... or listen for free on a desktopIn other words, we want to take the Hulu+ Approach and are going to blame our costs even though there is advertising on both the website and the app, we know people like to stream from their devices.[www.nationofblue.com image 299x156]
Summoner101: So... Spotify then?
mikey15: radio doesn't play music for free ASCAP and BMI charge a lot of money it's a huge cost really.
Bontesla: Summoner101: So... Spotify then?That's where I'm headed. The hubby already pays for the premium service and I've played around with it. It's so much better than Pandora.
the_geek: Stranded On The Planet Dumbass:My only complaint with Pandora is it's tendency to play live versions of songs over studio. Maybe the rights are cheaper.More likely there are just more live versions available than there are studio versions. I've noticed that Pandora will sometimes play a song, and then a few songs later play the same song from a different album or the live performance of the same song. They apparently don't do a great job of flagging semi-dupes.
TheOtherGuy: For those of you pointing out that ever-escalating label royalties (I refuse to call them just 'royalties' when so little, if any of it actually goes to artists) are leaving Pandora with little choice but to pull shenanigans like this: you're right.That's the point, of course. First, leave them no choice but to resort to the kind of things that will drive away subscribers. Then leave them no choice but to shut down. More money for the labels, period. At least, that's how they think. Keep strangling those golden geese for their shiny tears, guys. The eggs just don't come fast enough for some people...
RexTalionis: You're sounding awfully uninformed to judge them like this.
Gig103: RexTalionis: You're sounding awfully uninformed to judge them like this.The part I object to is that only mobile devices are being limited. If the commission is so high as to be unsustainable, why is it still free on the desktop?
RexTalionis: Terrestrial radio stations and other similar services only pay around 10-15% of their revenue for licensing fees. Streaming internet radio are required to pay 55%. This has left most streaming radio services utterly unable to generate a profit even though they are able increase their subscriber base.
Kyro: You could always.. y'know.. subscribe and support them.Or just b*tch about only getting 40 hours of free entertainment. Either way.
sure haven't: Why do people listen to any service at all when youtube exists? Mobile, laptop, tablet, etc. It works on all of them. You search and choose what you want, done. As far as my understanding goes, Pandora also only lets you skip a certain amount of times?? wtf is that??
kab: And seeing the absolute pittance that artists make from pandora / spotify etc, ... if they go away, nothing of value will be lost anyhow.
InmanRoshi: Considering that Pandora forked over 50% of all their revenues ($120 million in Q4 2013) to purely royalties, seems like the problem is the artists have negotiated a shiatty deal for their themselves and someone else is getting filthy rich on their digital rights.
kab: InmanRoshi: Considering that Pandora forked over 50% of all their revenues ($120 million in Q4 2013) to purely royalties, seems like the problem is the artists have negotiated a shiatty deal for their themselves and someone else is getting filthy rich on their digital rights.Implying that that all acts on Pandora etc are signed to labels.
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