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(TMZ)   Styx sues their record company for allegedly cheating them out of royalties, allowing Dennis DeYoung to convince them that crap like Mr. Roboto was a good idea   (tmz.com) divider line 82
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2013-02-28 07:42:03 AM  
No one speaks ill of Mr. Roboto. You hear me? No one.
 
2013-02-28 07:52:12 AM  
Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.
 
2013-02-28 07:57:23 AM  
They can finally pay off the guy who does the marquee and get top billing over that Puppet Show
 
2013-02-28 07:59:00 AM  
"Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.
 
2013-02-28 08:01:03 AM  

Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.


You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?
 
2013-02-28 08:12:28 AM  
Sounds like they have too much time on their hands.
 
2013-02-28 08:45:30 AM  

Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?


Put down the bong, 70s kid.
 
2013-02-28 08:47:06 AM  
I just wish someone would inform Tommy Shaw that no, you weren't really in a heavy metal band when you were with Styx.
 
2013-02-28 08:50:30 AM  

Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.


But is it stuck in your head in Cartman's voice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOWK7Tam01M">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=yOWK7Tam01M
 
2013-02-28 09:02:20 AM  
 
2013-02-28 09:03:18 AM  

SurfaceTension: I just wish someone would inform Tommy Shaw that no, you weren't really in a heavy metal band when you were with Styx.


I wish someone would tell Tommy Shaw that Styx hasn't existed since they fired the sound of the band in Dennis DeYoung.
 
2013-02-28 09:03:56 AM  
A band cheated out by a record company?

In other news, the sky is blue
 
2013-02-28 09:08:30 AM  
Styx put out some crap, didn't they?

/Had a girlfriend who loved Styx, so I did too.
//Still got a Styx album in the attic.
 
2013-02-28 09:09:49 AM  
Someday the world will appreciate Styx' foray into dinner theatre with Mr. Roboto. Mark my words!
 
2013-02-28 09:10:20 AM  
Love them or hate them; they provided one the most enjoyably biatchy episodes of "Behind the Music" ever.
 
2013-02-28 09:12:08 AM  

Generation_D: Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?

Put down the bong, 70s kid.


um...it is, though. You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it.
 
2013-02-28 09:13:16 AM  

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

But I'll bet you dollars and donuts they have their DeYoung stand-in singing "Babe" at every county fair appearance.
 
2013-02-28 09:16:44 AM  

Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.


For some odd reason, that was the song we had to sing for our grade 8 graduation ceremony...in 1986. Styx was my first concert ever....in 1997.
 
2013-02-28 09:21:03 AM  
Styx had some good stuff, especially when Shaw joined.  Crystal Ball, Pieces of Eight, Grand illusion, Cornerstone, were pretty good.   Paradise Theater wasn't awful.  After that, blech.
 
2013-02-28 09:25:31 AM  
But...but..he's KILROY!
 
2013-02-28 09:26:02 AM  

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


What possible problem could evangelicals have with the white bread corporate schlock rock that was Styx?  The name of the band?
 
2013-02-28 09:28:11 AM  
In the interest of fairness, I'd like to point out that the Shaw-less, DeYoung-lead Styx turned out this dreck:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-28 09:34:58 AM  
Secret, secret,
www.the60sofficialsite.com
 
2013-02-28 09:35:06 AM  

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


^  That
 
2013-02-28 09:38:06 AM  

verbaltoxin: Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.

I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

But I'll bet you dollars and donuts they have their DeYoung stand-in singing "Babe" at every county fair appearance.


You'd lose. Part of the breakup was that DDY retains the rights to a few songs that the band doesn't play. Babe and Mr. Roboto are two of those (although they do usually slip a few seconds of Roboto into a medley of other classic things like Midnight Ride and Witch Wolf).

And I can commiserate with their butthurt, actually. Rocketing them to #1 with "Babe" gave real validation to their mainstream pop-rock sounds and that song really didn't have any of the experimental, prog-rock undertones that their other stuff did. And hindsight being 20/20, everything DDY did after that point was a sorry attempt to recapture the magic of "Babe" (The Best Of Times, Don't Let It End, Show Me The Way, While There's Still Time etc) and it just never worked. If I was them I'd be upset about losing that too. In fact, listening to Cyclorama for the first time, halfway through These Are The Times, I realized that his replacement (who they found in a Styx tribute band, so he's hardly some random dude) had brought a sound back into the mix that I hadn't appreciably heard on any albums since Paradise Theater: synth. Not electric-keyboard, but that whale-song sound from Come Sail Away.

tl;dr DDY brought them crazy fame with that song, but did it at the expense of the sound that had defined them. And they're right to be upset about that.

/grew up on Styx
//try to catch them whenever theyre in town
///gonna skip the April show though
/f'n Ted Nugent
 
2013-02-28 09:39:03 AM  

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


It always seemed to me that Shaw's problem was more with the theater crap they did on tour than the actual album itself.  I like Mr. Roboto and Don't Let it End, but their little show they did at concerts was pure crap.
 
2013-02-28 09:39:44 AM  
Watching "Behind the Music" and that dainty little wisp of a half-man Tommy Shaw complain about Styx losing its "hard edge" made me guffaw my mullet off.
 
2013-02-28 09:40:53 AM  

NEPAman: But...but..he's KILROY!


KILROY!  Kilroy
 
2013-02-28 09:41:02 AM  

Great_Milenko: Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.

What possible problem could evangelicals have with the white bread corporate schlock rock that was Styx?  The name of the band?


Part of the "Backwards Satanic Messages" scare in the early 80s. someone thought "Snowblind", a song about addiction to cocaine, contained such a message (IIRC it was that the line "Life's not pretty, even though / I try so hard to make it so" became "Satan speaks with our voices").
 
2013-02-28 09:41:25 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Best use of Mr Roboto...evar


Chairman Koji would like a word
 
2013-02-28 09:41:30 AM  

ko_kyi: Paradise Theater wasn't awful.


Not only that, it had a great etching on the vinyl.

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-02-28 09:46:43 AM  
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 09:51:31 AM  
Mr. Roboto and Don't Let It End are OK but the rest of the album is crap.

In the docs, Styx says A&M has purposefully been shorting the band royalty income earned from digital downloads and ringtones -- and did so by concocting a "phony business model" in order to "avoid its royalty obligations."

Business as usual in the entertainment industry.
 
2013-02-28 09:51:59 AM  

Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?


Did anyone ever think it was about anything else? The line "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise/
We climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies" makes it pretty obvious.
 
2013-02-28 09:52:33 AM  

GanjSmokr: Not only that, it had a great etching on the vinyl.


I totally forgot about that!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 09:55:05 AM  
Styx had some good stuff, especially when Shaw joined.

I liked Shaw's first solo album, Girls With Guns.
 
2013-02-28 10:03:11 AM  
Subby can shut his goddamn mouth. Mr. Roboto is a masterpiece
 
2013-02-28 10:11:41 AM  

Devolving_Spud: Best use of Mr Roboto...evar


Jeffester disagrees!

//...knows Kung-Fu
 
2013-02-28 10:15:42 AM  

verbaltoxin: Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.

I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

But I'll bet you dollars and donuts they have their DeYoung stand-in singing "Babe" at every county fair appearance.


They have some great donuts at the county fair. I like the Elephant Ears better myself. And Funnel Cake, love funnel cake. And that Indian Bread that you can't call Indian any more because they're Native Americans now. Fry Bread. Yeah thats it.
 
2013-02-28 10:19:03 AM  
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verbaltoxin: I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.


It looked to me that it wasn't just butthurt, but the fact that DeYoung began to rule the group with an iron fist after Babe hit #1.  In Behind the Music, it was evident the success of that song led to DeYoung going full-on megalomaniacal douchebag.  They asked him if he really thought "he knew what was best for the band, more so than the other members"...and he replied (with no hesitation) "Yes".  And he proved to be absolutely wrong....at their concerts all they had to do was *play*, and DeYoung made them do the crappy play.  They were lucky the fans didn't rumble.  Had it been a decade later with all the angry 90s fans, they would've been dead meat.

Shaw and JY said they wanted to play R&R, not Barry Manilow.  What's not to agree with that?

And funny thing....on classic rock radio I hear more of Shaw's songs than DeYoung's.  Fooling Yourself, The Renegade, Too Much Time on my Hands, Blue Collar Man, Sing for the Day....although I do hear Come Sail Away a good bit.  I haven't heard Babe in many years.
 
2013-02-28 10:22:43 AM  
The poor man's Rush.
 
2013-02-28 10:28:48 AM  

ristst: ...verbaltoxin: I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

It looked to me that it wasn't just butthurt, but the fact that DeYoung began to rule the group with an iron fist after Babe hit #1.  In Behind the Music, it was evident the success of that song led to DeYoung going full-on megalomaniacal douchebag.  They asked him if he really thought "he knew what was best for the band, more so than the other members"...and he replied (with no hesitation) "Yes".  And he proved to be absolutely wrong....at their concerts all they had to do was *play*, and DeYoung made them do the crappy play.  They were lucky the fans didn't rumble.  Had it been a decade later with all the angry 90s fans, they would've been dead meat.

Shaw and JY said they wanted to play R&R, not Barry Manilow.  What's not to agree with that?

And funny thing....on classic rock radio I hear more of Shaw's songs than DeYoung's.  Fooling Yourself, The Renegade, Too Much Time on my Hands, Blue Collar Man, Sing for the Day....although I do hear Come Sail Away a good bit.  I haven't heard Babe in many years.


I outgrew all this crap 30 years ago. Its laughable its even a thing now. Go enjoy your millions rock dinosaurs.
 
2013-02-28 10:33:55 AM  
Very similar (without as much hatred and drama) to REO Speedwagon.  Their biggest chart success also lead to their downfall.  Grab the low-hanging fruit with the power ballad, gain a quick input of shallow fans, piss off the fans who got you there.
 
2013-02-28 10:39:02 AM  

Generation_D: Go enjoy your millions rock dinosaurs.


Oh, if only I fit that description....rock dinosaur, yep that's me.  Millions....not so much.  The word "millionaire" is a bit of a stretch....more like a "twenty-five dolla-naire"....

But I thought the band was awesome in the 70's.  Not so much in the 80s.  And the Behind the Music on them was *fascinating*.  I had no idea that any of that stuff went down in the day.
 
2013-02-28 10:39:48 AM  

Rickenbacker: Very similar (without as much hatred and drama) to REO Speedwagon.  Their biggest chart success also lead to their downfall.  Grab the low-hanging fruit with the power ballad, gain a quick input of shallow fans, piss off the fans who got you there.


I'll sign off on this. There were REO and Styx in my teen aged growing up album collection.

Once they wussed out and got famous, I said the hell with it and moved on.
 
2013-02-28 10:47:11 AM  

Electric_Banana: I like Mr. Roboto and Don't Let it End, but their little show they did at concerts was pure crap.


I love what Shaw said about having to do the crappy play at their concerts.  He said it was unreal depressing having to do it, knowing the fans were close to rioting.  So he decided to "medicate himself".  Classic!

And JY said that one show they did with the Roboto play was absolutely the worst, most disgusting thing he'd ever experienced.  But then he said he was wrong, that would be the show they did the next nite.  Funny stuff.
 
2013-02-28 10:50:49 AM  

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media.


i.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-28 11:05:55 AM  
you biatches better recognize

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-28 11:10:12 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?

Did anyone ever think it was about anything else? The line "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise/
We climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies" makes it pretty obvious.


Of course, you could always sing it this way:
I thought that they were angels
When much to my surprise
We climbed abord their starship
They called her Enterprise...
 
2013-02-28 11:18:32 AM  

technomuse: Of course, you could always sing it this way:
I thought that they were angels
When much to my surprise
We climbed abord their starship
They called her Enterprise...


Nice.
 
2013-02-28 11:43:48 AM  

Seems like a good time for this (from his 2012 contract rider):

Show to be billed as "DENNIS DEYOUNG: THE MUSIC OF STYX". The word "STYX" cannot be larger in font than any other word contained in the permissible phrases. Other permissible phrases that cannot be modified include:
"Dennis DeYoung, a founding member of the band/group STYX," "Dennis DeYoung, former member of the band/group STYX," "Dennis DeYoung, former singer of the band/group STYX," "Dennis DeYoung, former vocalist of the band/group STYX," "Dennis DeYoung, former STYX singer,"
"Dennis DeYoung, former STYX vocalist,"
"Dennis DeYoung, former keyboardist of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, former STYX keyboardist,"
"Dennis DeYoung, original STYX keyboardist,"
"Dennis DeYoung an original STYX vocalist,"
"Dennis DeYoung, a former STYX songwriter,"
"Dennis DeYoung, a former songwriter of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, a former STYX composer,"
"Dennis DeYoung, a former composer of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, a former STYX author,"
"Dennis DeYoung, a former STYX producer,"
"Dennis DeYoung and the Music of STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung and the Music of the group/band STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, playing the Music of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, performing the Music of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, singing the Music of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, an original member of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, lead singer of the band/group STYX hits 'Come Sail Away', 'Babe', 'Mr. Roboto', 'The Best of Times', 'Don't Let It End', 'Show Me The Way', and 'Lady',"
"Dennis DeYoung, songwriter of the band/group STYX hits 'Come Sail Away', 'Babe', 'Mr. Roboto', 'The Best of Times', 'Don't Let It End', 'Show Me The Way', and 'Lady',"
"Dennis DeYoung, composer of the band/group STYX hits 'Come Sail Away', 'Babe', 'Mr. Roboto', 'The Best of Times', 'Don't Let It End', 'Show Me The Way', and 'Lady',"
"Dennis DeYoung, formerly of the band/group STYX,"
"Dennis DeYoung, lead vocalist of STYX hits 'Come Sail Away', 'Babe', 'Mr. Roboto', 'The Best of Times', 'Don't Let It End', 'Show Me The Way', and 'Lady',"
NO OTHER USAGE IS ALLOWED.

ARTIST CANNOT be billed or referenced in any of the following ways:
CANNOT use "Dennis DeYoung of STYX"
CANNOT use "Dennis DeYoung STYX singer"
CANNOT use "Dennis DeYoung, former lead singer of STYX" CANNOT use "Dennis DeYoung, former Styx frontman"
The words "Lead Singer" or "Frontman" can never be used to describe ARTIST'S former association with STYX.
 
2013-02-28 11:50:06 AM  
Dennis DeYoung stiffed me once on a 48 dollar pizza delivery.
/ not kidding, he lives, or at least he used to in a upscale Chicago burb...
 
2013-02-28 11:54:35 AM  
Parking lot full of whale vomit.............

/obscure?
//google it.
 
2013-02-28 11:59:51 AM  

Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?


According to DDY at a concert I attended at the Minnesota State Fair Grounds in 1979, it was about a trip to Hawaii that the band made in their early days of touring.  He specifically mentioned being under the influence of "Maui Wowee" which I am guessing is some kind of fruity drink with pineapples and an a teensie weensie umbrella.  Or weed.
 
2013-02-28 12:08:06 PM  

Kyosuke: Seems like a good time for this (from his 2012 contract rider):


Uh-oh... I got an ad emailed to me and they used "main songwriter" instead of "a songwriter". They're going to pummel him in the alley after the show, aren't they?
 
2013-02-28 12:10:45 PM  

Kyosuke: Seems like a good time for this (from his 2012 contract rider):


What about Dennis DeYoung, douchebag formerly in Styx?

I'd pay a dollar to see that.
 
2013-02-28 12:17:24 PM  
BTW, I don't think Dennis DeYoung is awesome. He's just okay.
 
2013-02-28 12:25:29 PM  

verbaltoxin: BTW, I don't think Dennis DeYoung is awesome. He's just okay.


He's all right, but will he sing for the day?
 
2013-02-28 12:32:35 PM  
You guys call me if you need me.

userserve-ak.last.fm

i.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-28 12:37:32 PM  
Name me a major hit STYX had that DeYoung didn't write or sing.

Yeah.  Their grapes are sour and their tears are bitter.
 
2013-02-28 12:39:56 PM  

Generation_D: Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?

Put down the bong, 70s kid.


Um ... "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise, we climbed aboard their starship; we headed for the skies"

Reading is Fundamental.
 
2013-02-28 12:50:01 PM  

TheHopeDiamond: Name me a major hit STYX had that DeYoung didn't write or sing.

Yeah.  Their grapes are sour and their tears are bitter.




Renegade

/one of their few hits that weren't sappy shiat or overblown theatrical crap, too
 
2013-02-28 01:11:01 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: TheHopeDiamond: Name me a major hit STYX had that DeYoung didn't write or sing.

Yeah.  Their grapes are sour and their tears are bitter.

Renegade

/one of their few hits that weren't sappy shiat or overblown theatrical crap, too


Blue Collar Man

Too Much Time on my Hands
 
2013-02-28 01:11:58 PM  
STYX was once a local band, guys.  Guys from da sout side.

They played at my high school.

You think the later songs sucked?  Try "The Earl of Roseland."

//Get off my lawn.
 
2013-02-28 01:14:17 PM  
tillerman35:

According to DDY at a concert I attended at the Minnesota State Fair Grounds in 1979, it was about a trip to Hawaii that the band made in their early days of touring.  He specifically mentioned being under the influence of "Maui Wowee" which I am guessing is some kind of fruity drink with pineapples and an a teensie weensie umbrella.  Or weed.

It's weed.
 
2013-02-28 01:14:27 PM  

rbaron71: You guys call me if you need me.

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 500x375]

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Ah, Larry...what a Strange Animal
 
2013-02-28 01:17:51 PM  

TheHopeDiamond: Name me a major hit STYX had that DeYoung didn't write or sing.

Yeah.  Their grapes are sour and their tears are bitter.


As I posted above and will reiterate:  I hear Shaw's songs regularly on classic rock radio, way more than DeYoung's...Fooling Yourself, Renegade, Blue Collar Man, Too Much Time on my Hands, Sing for the Day.  They seem to have more longevity.  And the first three were staples in the late 70s cover band circuit...every band that came through town played at least one.

I do hear Come Sail Away, and on occasion Lady.  Never Babe.  Don't recall the last time I heard it on classic radio.  It was a big hit in its day, but I just don't hear it now...at least not on the three local classic stations (and one of the three plays all day at work).
 
2013-02-28 01:37:27 PM  

Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?


Well yeah, it's right in the lyrics. Not necessarily an abduction though, I think they went voluntarily .
 
2013-02-28 01:46:28 PM  

GanjSmokr: ko_kyi: Paradise Theater wasn't awful.

Not only that, it had a great etching on the vinyl.

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 800x535]


Awesome. I have that somewhere...
 
2013-02-28 02:14:58 PM  
Styx totally SUCKS.....That is all, back to you Pat.......
 
2013-02-28 02:22:52 PM  
What's that JY and Tommy, playing casino's and state fairs doesn't pay that much?
 
2013-02-28 02:50:58 PM  

Cooper420: What's that JY and Tommy, playing casino's and state fairs doesn't pay that much?


Hey, they also did an ice skating show on NBC not so long ago.
 
2013-02-28 03:30:08 PM  

Electric_Banana: Cooper420: What's that JY and Tommy, playing casino's and state fairs doesn't pay that much?

Hey, they also did an ice skating show on NBC not so long ago.


I saw Herman and the Hermits at Busch Gardens the other day, that's how metal I am.

/didn't even know they'd  be there
//they played the song from The Naked Gun and Animal House/Witness
 
2013-02-28 04:02:27 PM  

Generation_D: Rickenbacker: Very similar (without as much hatred and drama) to REO Speedwagon.  Their biggest chart success also lead to their downfall.  Grab the low-hanging fruit with the power ballad, gain a quick input of shallow fans, piss off the fans who got you there.

I'll sign off on this. There were REO and Styx in my teen aged growing up album collection.

Once they wussed out and got famous, I said the hell with it and moved on.


Same here.  Not at the same level, but throw Triumph and April Wine in there too.  Loved the rockin' stuff, not so much the Top 40 direction they went.

CSB time.  Saw REO on the "Decade of Rock and Roll" tour, maybe a year before Hi Infidelity came out.  Small college gym, middle of Illinois (heart of REO country).  Great show.  About midway through, Kevin says "We're gonna play a new song for ya people-uh!" as only he could do.  They played Keep On Loving You.  Kid you not, golf clap applause.  I don't think anyone that left thought that was going to be a hit.
 
2013-02-28 06:13:36 PM  

Rickenbacker: CSB time. Saw REO on the "Decade of Rock and Roll" tour, maybe a year before Hi Infidelity came out. Small college gym, middle of Illinois (heart of REO country). Great show. About midway through, Kevin says "We're gonna play a new song for ya people-uh!" as only he could do. They played Keep On Loving You. Kid you not, golf clap applause. I don't think anyone that left thought that was going to be a hit.


That's because if you liked anything they did before Hi Infidelity came, then it was crap once it did. They used to be a rocking band.
 
2013-02-28 06:19:23 PM  
Solar Jenny One frowns upon your shenanigans
 
2013-02-28 08:45:05 PM  
I knew a guy in HS who said "Fooling Yourself" is really about masturbation... citing phrases like "....you've got it all in the palm of your hand, but your hand's full of sweat and your head needs a rest..." and "...Come on, let's see what you've got, just take your best shot "...
 
2013-02-28 08:57:13 PM  
Why all the hate for 'established' groups playing state fairs and such. Now, 'the Elk Lodge' I can understand, but some of the truly best musical performances I've seen have been at 'festivals' and 'state fairs' etc.

Unclench for a second and think about really - why would a 'famous band' play such a cliche'd venue? Cause they're raking in the bucks? (c'mon - srsly?) or possibly, just possibly cause they really enjoy playing their stuff and getting some sincere musical lurve from true fans... I realize this latter concept is hard to comprehend when you're a younger person - but it's certainly worthy of some whole hearted consideration.

That said, DDY had - what in 'industry terms' is referred to as "LSD" (Lead Singer Disease). I've seen the documentary mentioned and completely agree with JT Young & T Shaw's perspective on the different types of tunes and their preferences.

BTW - I happen to love me some old Journey (Infinity ftw), foreigner, cars, et al.

/obviously old Farker
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 09:26:16 PM  
old Journey

I didn't learn until this century that Journey used to be a progressive rock band.
 
2013-02-28 11:23:32 PM  

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.


That sounds so much better when read in Patrick Bateman's voice from American Psycho.
 
2013-02-28 11:37:45 PM  
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Come sail away
Come sail away
Come sail away with me
(you guys)

/The Mr Roboto tour was the first concert I ever saw....Concrete Blonde opened for them.
//Get Off My Lawn!
 
2013-03-01 01:30:55 AM  
Stynx.
 
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