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(TMZ)   Styx sues their record company for allegedly cheating them out of royalties, allowing Dennis DeYoung to convince them that crap like Mr. Roboto was a good idea   (tmz.com) divider line 82
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2013-02-28 07:42:03 AM
No one speaks ill of Mr. Roboto. You hear me? No one.
 
2013-02-28 07:52:12 AM
Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.
 
2013-02-28 07:57:23 AM
They can finally pay off the guy who does the marquee and get top billing over that Puppet Show
 
2013-02-28 07:59:00 AM
"Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.
 
2013-02-28 08:01:03 AM

Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.


You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?
 
2013-02-28 08:12:28 AM
Sounds like they have too much time on their hands.
 
2013-02-28 08:45:30 AM

Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?


Put down the bong, 70s kid.
 
2013-02-28 08:47:06 AM
I just wish someone would inform Tommy Shaw that no, you weren't really in a heavy metal band when you were with Styx.
 
2013-02-28 08:50:30 AM

Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.


But is it stuck in your head in Cartman's voice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOWK7Tam01M">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=yOWK7Tam01M
 
2013-02-28 09:02:20 AM
 
2013-02-28 09:03:18 AM

SurfaceTension: I just wish someone would inform Tommy Shaw that no, you weren't really in a heavy metal band when you were with Styx.


I wish someone would tell Tommy Shaw that Styx hasn't existed since they fired the sound of the band in Dennis DeYoung.
 
2013-02-28 09:03:56 AM
A band cheated out by a record company?

In other news, the sky is blue
 
2013-02-28 09:08:30 AM
Styx put out some crap, didn't they?

/Had a girlfriend who loved Styx, so I did too.
//Still got a Styx album in the attic.
 
2013-02-28 09:09:49 AM
Someday the world will appreciate Styx' foray into dinner theatre with Mr. Roboto. Mark my words!
 
2013-02-28 09:10:20 AM
Love them or hate them; they provided one the most enjoyably biatchy episodes of "Behind the Music" ever.
 
2013-02-28 09:12:08 AM

Generation_D: Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?

Put down the bong, 70s kid.


um...it is, though. You're fooling yourself if you don't believe it.
 
2013-02-28 09:13:16 AM

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

But I'll bet you dollars and donuts they have their DeYoung stand-in singing "Babe" at every county fair appearance.
 
2013-02-28 09:16:44 AM

Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.


For some odd reason, that was the song we had to sing for our grade 8 graduation ceremony...in 1986. Styx was my first concert ever....in 1997.
 
2013-02-28 09:21:03 AM
Styx had some good stuff, especially when Shaw joined.  Crystal Ball, Pieces of Eight, Grand illusion, Cornerstone, were pretty good.   Paradise Theater wasn't awful.  After that, blech.
 
2013-02-28 09:25:31 AM
But...but..he's KILROY!
 
2013-02-28 09:26:02 AM

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


What possible problem could evangelicals have with the white bread corporate schlock rock that was Styx?  The name of the band?
 
2013-02-28 09:28:11 AM
In the interest of fairness, I'd like to point out that the Shaw-less, DeYoung-lead Styx turned out this dreck:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-28 09:34:58 AM
Secret, secret,
www.the60sofficialsite.com
 
2013-02-28 09:35:06 AM

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


^  That
 
2013-02-28 09:38:06 AM

verbaltoxin: Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.

I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

But I'll bet you dollars and donuts they have their DeYoung stand-in singing "Babe" at every county fair appearance.


You'd lose. Part of the breakup was that DDY retains the rights to a few songs that the band doesn't play. Babe and Mr. Roboto are two of those (although they do usually slip a few seconds of Roboto into a medley of other classic things like Midnight Ride and Witch Wolf).

And I can commiserate with their butthurt, actually. Rocketing them to #1 with "Babe" gave real validation to their mainstream pop-rock sounds and that song really didn't have any of the experimental, prog-rock undertones that their other stuff did. And hindsight being 20/20, everything DDY did after that point was a sorry attempt to recapture the magic of "Babe" (The Best Of Times, Don't Let It End, Show Me The Way, While There's Still Time etc) and it just never worked. If I was them I'd be upset about losing that too. In fact, listening to Cyclorama for the first time, halfway through These Are The Times, I realized that his replacement (who they found in a Styx tribute band, so he's hardly some random dude) had brought a sound back into the mix that I hadn't appreciably heard on any albums since Paradise Theater: synth. Not electric-keyboard, but that whale-song sound from Come Sail Away.

tl;dr DDY brought them crazy fame with that song, but did it at the expense of the sound that had defined them. And they're right to be upset about that.

/grew up on Styx
//try to catch them whenever theyre in town
///gonna skip the April show though
/f'n Ted Nugent
 
2013-02-28 09:39:03 AM

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.


It always seemed to me that Shaw's problem was more with the theater crap they did on tour than the actual album itself.  I like Mr. Roboto and Don't Let it End, but their little show they did at concerts was pure crap.
 
2013-02-28 09:39:44 AM
Watching "Behind the Music" and that dainty little wisp of a half-man Tommy Shaw complain about Styx losing its "hard edge" made me guffaw my mullet off.
 
2013-02-28 09:40:53 AM

NEPAman: But...but..he's KILROY!


KILROY!  Kilroy
 
2013-02-28 09:41:02 AM

Great_Milenko: Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.

What possible problem could evangelicals have with the white bread corporate schlock rock that was Styx?  The name of the band?


Part of the "Backwards Satanic Messages" scare in the early 80s. someone thought "Snowblind", a song about addiction to cocaine, contained such a message (IIRC it was that the line "Life's not pretty, even though / I try so hard to make it so" became "Satan speaks with our voices").
 
2013-02-28 09:41:25 AM

Devolving_Spud: Best use of Mr Roboto...evar


Chairman Koji would like a word
 
2013-02-28 09:41:30 AM

ko_kyi: Paradise Theater wasn't awful.


Not only that, it had a great etching on the vinyl.

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2013-02-28 09:46:43 AM
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 09:51:31 AM
Mr. Roboto and Don't Let It End are OK but the rest of the album is crap.

In the docs, Styx says A&M has purposefully been shorting the band royalty income earned from digital downloads and ringtones -- and did so by concocting a "phony business model" in order to "avoid its royalty obligations."

Business as usual in the entertainment industry.
 
2013-02-28 09:51:59 AM

Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?


Did anyone ever think it was about anything else? The line "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise/
We climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies" makes it pretty obvious.
 
2013-02-28 09:52:33 AM

GanjSmokr: Not only that, it had a great etching on the vinyl.


I totally forgot about that!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-28 09:55:05 AM
Styx had some good stuff, especially when Shaw joined.

I liked Shaw's first solo album, Girls With Guns.
 
2013-02-28 10:03:11 AM
Subby can shut his goddamn mouth. Mr. Roboto is a masterpiece
 
2013-02-28 10:11:41 AM

Devolving_Spud: Best use of Mr Roboto...evar


Jeffester disagrees!

//...knows Kung-Fu
 
2013-02-28 10:15:42 AM

verbaltoxin: Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media. It has its weaknesses to sure, but "Cold War," "Heavy Metal Poisoning" and "Don't Let It End" are be powerful songs any arena-rock band would be happy to have in their repertoire.

P.S. "Tommy Shaw"-like typing detected, Submitter.

I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

But I'll bet you dollars and donuts they have their DeYoung stand-in singing "Babe" at every county fair appearance.


They have some great donuts at the county fair. I like the Elephant Ears better myself. And Funnel Cake, love funnel cake. And that Indian Bread that you can't call Indian any more because they're Native Americans now. Fry Bread. Yeah thats it.
 
2013-02-28 10:19:03 AM
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verbaltoxin: I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.


It looked to me that it wasn't just butthurt, but the fact that DeYoung began to rule the group with an iron fist after Babe hit #1.  In Behind the Music, it was evident the success of that song led to DeYoung going full-on megalomaniacal douchebag.  They asked him if he really thought "he knew what was best for the band, more so than the other members"...and he replied (with no hesitation) "Yes".  And he proved to be absolutely wrong....at their concerts all they had to do was *play*, and DeYoung made them do the crappy play.  They were lucky the fans didn't rumble.  Had it been a decade later with all the angry 90s fans, they would've been dead meat.

Shaw and JY said they wanted to play R&R, not Barry Manilow.  What's not to agree with that?

And funny thing....on classic rock radio I hear more of Shaw's songs than DeYoung's.  Fooling Yourself, The Renegade, Too Much Time on my Hands, Blue Collar Man, Sing for the Day....although I do hear Come Sail Away a good bit.  I haven't heard Babe in many years.
 
2013-02-28 10:22:43 AM
The poor man's Rush.
 
2013-02-28 10:28:48 AM

ristst: ...verbaltoxin: I watched the Styx Behind the Music episode too. JY and Shaw have massive butthurt over DeYoung getting the band to number 1 with "Babe." It's the most petty thing you can be pissed off about, and they're still aching over it all these years later.

It looked to me that it wasn't just butthurt, but the fact that DeYoung began to rule the group with an iron fist after Babe hit #1.  In Behind the Music, it was evident the success of that song led to DeYoung going full-on megalomaniacal douchebag.  They asked him if he really thought "he knew what was best for the band, more so than the other members"...and he replied (with no hesitation) "Yes".  And he proved to be absolutely wrong....at their concerts all they had to do was *play*, and DeYoung made them do the crappy play.  They were lucky the fans didn't rumble.  Had it been a decade later with all the angry 90s fans, they would've been dead meat.

Shaw and JY said they wanted to play R&R, not Barry Manilow.  What's not to agree with that?

And funny thing....on classic rock radio I hear more of Shaw's songs than DeYoung's.  Fooling Yourself, The Renegade, Too Much Time on my Hands, Blue Collar Man, Sing for the Day....although I do hear Come Sail Away a good bit.  I haven't heard Babe in many years.


I outgrew all this crap 30 years ago. Its laughable its even a thing now. Go enjoy your millions rock dinosaurs.
 
2013-02-28 10:33:55 AM
Very similar (without as much hatred and drama) to REO Speedwagon.  Their biggest chart success also lead to their downfall.  Grab the low-hanging fruit with the power ballad, gain a quick input of shallow fans, piss off the fans who got you there.
 
2013-02-28 10:39:02 AM

Generation_D: Go enjoy your millions rock dinosaurs.


Oh, if only I fit that description....rock dinosaur, yep that's me.  Millions....not so much.  The word "millionaire" is a bit of a stretch....more like a "twenty-five dolla-naire"....

But I thought the band was awesome in the 70's.  Not so much in the 80s.  And the Behind the Music on them was *fascinating*.  I had no idea that any of that stuff went down in the day.
 
2013-02-28 10:39:48 AM

Rickenbacker: Very similar (without as much hatred and drama) to REO Speedwagon.  Their biggest chart success also lead to their downfall.  Grab the low-hanging fruit with the power ballad, gain a quick input of shallow fans, piss off the fans who got you there.


I'll sign off on this. There were REO and Styx in my teen aged growing up album collection.

Once they wussed out and got famous, I said the hell with it and moved on.
 
2013-02-28 10:47:11 AM

Electric_Banana: I like Mr. Roboto and Don't Let it End, but their little show they did at concerts was pure crap.


I love what Shaw said about having to do the crappy play at their concerts.  He said it was unreal depressing having to do it, knowing the fans were close to rioting.  So he decided to "medicate himself".  Classic!

And JY said that one show they did with the Roboto play was absolutely the worst, most disgusting thing he'd ever experienced.  But then he said he was wrong, that would be the show they did the next nite.  Funny stuff.
 
2013-02-28 10:50:49 AM

Somacandra: "Kilroy Was Here"  is certified platinum and got to #3 on the charts. Two singles got to #3. And it was a powerful hit back against both the creeping fascism of the Reagan administration and the baseless accusations of Satanism against the band by the California state legislature and reactionary evangelical groups in the mass media.


i.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-28 11:05:55 AM
you biatches better recognize

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-28 11:10:12 AM

Mad_Radhu: Somacandra: Mugato: Great, now I have "Come Sail Away" stuck in my head.

You know that song is actually about alien abductions, don't you?

Did anyone ever think it was about anything else? The line "I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise/
We climbed aboard their starship, we headed for the skies" makes it pretty obvious.


Of course, you could always sing it this way:
I thought that they were angels
When much to my surprise
We climbed abord their starship
They called her Enterprise...
 
2013-02-28 11:18:32 AM

technomuse: Of course, you could always sing it this way:
I thought that they were angels
When much to my surprise
We climbed abord their starship
They called her Enterprise...


Nice.
 
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