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2013-02-28 12:27:46 AM  
No.
 
2013-02-28 12:29:57 AM  
Other than the Mars thing...how is this any different than what were doing now?
 
2013-02-28 12:32:17 AM  
Yes, absolutely.

Now.....we'd be asleep in different capsules the whole time, right?
 
2013-02-28 12:32:45 AM  
Going with the wife would make it easier.  Though mine wouldn't want to go in the first place, and would threaten a divorce if I went alone.
 
2013-02-28 12:33:01 AM  

Head_Shot: Other than the Mars thing...how is this any different than what were doing now?


No beer either.
 
2013-02-28 12:34:56 AM  
Dwarf Tossing 501.
 
2013-02-28 12:35:12 AM  
I drink budweiser, so I'm golden

...so to speak
 
2013-02-28 12:36:14 AM  

fusillade762: Head_Shot: Other than the Mars thing...how is this any different than what were doing now?

No beer either.


I drink Budweiser, so I'm golden

...so to speak
 
2013-02-28 12:37:10 AM  
crap
 
2013-02-28 12:37:12 AM  
img22.imageshack.us
 
2013-02-28 12:38:00 AM  
Hmm, alone in space. How long before there is an "accident" and one of 'em ends up dead?
 
2013-02-28 12:40:25 AM  
they'll be around about lunar orbit and someone will take a walk out the airlock.

if they send newlyweds it won't make it out of LEO
 
2013-02-28 12:40:53 AM  
Sounds like a job for married TotalFarkers.
 
2013-02-28 12:41:11 AM  
Pretty sure they just have other ways to shower and clean up after using the toilet in space. If not, alternative uses of urine could be explored. Make sure the wife is open minded.
 
2013-02-28 12:47:30 AM  
Won't SHE be surprised when I sneak off the pad at T-60!
 
2013-02-28 12:50:50 AM  
HOUSTON, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ANYMORE
 
2013-02-28 12:52:06 AM  
I just mentioned to my wife today that I'd chew my arm off for an opportunity to make that trip.  She said she wasn't going but my one armed self should have a good time.

So I'm going.
 
2013-02-28 12:55:00 AM  
I'd do it.  The kids would understand, right?  Hell, they can come too.
 
2013-02-28 12:56:15 AM  
Send up a German couple and solve two problems.

/I keed
 
2013-02-28 01:03:24 AM  
I'd miss my kids terribly, but yeah maybe they'd understand.  Granted that's just enough time to make another and that's a weird proposition.
 
2013-02-28 01:03:28 AM  
Hmmmm....space nookie...vs trapped with my wife.

Can I just take my girlfriend, instead?
 
2013-02-28 01:05:55 AM  
The story is also on io9 right now.

The most popular comment thread there is a bunch of people whining about the fact the spacefaring couple is expected to be "heteronormative".
 
2013-02-28 01:06:59 AM  
i.cdn.turner.com

There can be only NONE!
 
2013-02-28 01:11:40 AM  
What would they do for oxygen? Would they be able to store enough, even if liquefied?
 
2013-02-28 01:17:17 AM  
FINALLY, we can have an argument where she doesn't just get to leave the room when I'm winning!
 
2013-02-28 01:17:23 AM  
no. hells no. send my biatch wife up with my batshiat insane mother. Day 502: KrispyKritter is sitting pretty on mondo insurance / inheritance dollars. worry not, i'll get over it somehow, coming to the funerals in a spanky new convertible with a pair of hookers escorts to console me.
 
2013-02-28 01:17:42 AM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: The story is also on io9 right now.

The most popular comment thread there is a bunch of people whining about the fact the spacefaring couple is expected to be "heteronormative".


Cisgendered heteronormative? Because the last thing I want is to be surprised about that kind of thing of Day 1 of a 500 day trip. These details matter, you know.
 
2013-02-28 01:22:20 AM  

gadian: I'd do it.  The kids would understand, right?  Hell, they can come too.


Woah. Mars is no place to raise a kid. In fact, it's cold as hell.
 
2013-02-28 01:24:55 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Woah. Mars is no place to raise a kid. In fact, it's cold as hell.


Eh, they'll get over it.  And have no trouble picking up chicks when they start dating.
 
2013-02-28 01:26:02 AM  
With my wife- No.

Watch from the launch pad as she leaves for Mars,knowing that so far nothing we've sent to Mars has ever returned - yes.
 
2013-02-28 01:28:18 AM  
Open the pod bay doors Sweet Pea. Sweet Pea ... open the pod bay doors.
 
2013-02-28 01:30:02 AM  
As long as we can take along plenty of books (probably in electronic format) Hubby and I are willing. Just got to pack and find a dog sitter.
 
2013-02-28 01:35:57 AM  
501 days worth of food, water, and supplies. Not to mention comouters/equipment. That's going to have to be one big farking craft. This is a pipe dream. Can't wait to see how "the free market" pulls this off.
 
2013-02-28 01:36:49 AM  
Yes. After 20+ transpacific flights in coach, we can handle that no problem. My wife and I like each other. And, we both know when it's time to shut up, which is possibly the secret to a happy marriage.
 
2013-02-28 01:40:42 AM  
My wife and I would both sign up.

Unfortunately, "Inspiration Mars" is "inspiration for America" and you have to be an American couple. For America.

Something THE CANADIAN PRESS ought to mention, ya think?

//I actually like my wife.
///any space vessel is going to be bigger than the apartment.
////and Canada is cold so we know about not leaving the apartment for fear of death.
 
2013-02-28 01:42:01 AM  
Everything but the wife would be bearable and not unlike daily existence. Jesus farking christ though, if I'm going Mars I want to enjoy the trip. I can get nagged for the 500 days regardless.
 
2013-02-28 01:53:04 AM  

Rent Party: I just mentioned to my wife today that I'd chew my arm off for an opportunity to make that trip.  She said she wasn't going but my one armed self should have a good time.

So I'm going.


You only need one handarm.
 
2013-02-28 02:01:42 AM  
um, can I go without her?
 
2013-02-28 02:07:04 AM  
[Bear_Grylls_Better-Drink-My-Own-Piss.jpg]

/I know it's filtered, but still appropriate
 
2013-02-28 02:17:42 AM  
Can they send Minecraft?  Think I'd be good in that case.  Throw in an Elder Scrolls game for good measure, doesn't matter which one.

No Oblivion.
 
2013-02-28 02:20:54 AM  

gayb: Yes. After 20+ transpacific flights in coach, we can handle that no problem. My wife and I like each other. And, we both know when it's time to shut up, which is possibly the secret to a happy marriage.


Yes, but the trip to Mars would be like taking 1500 transpacific flights in one continuous stretch. Do you really think you two like each other that much?
 
2013-02-28 02:22:03 AM  

pyrotek85: What would they do for oxygen? Would they be able to store enough, even if liquefied?


I think on the ISS they use scrubbers to remove CO2 and actually make oxygen from H2O. Still, whether you take along oxygen or make it from water, it means you're going to have to bring a crapload of something along. (And you're going to have to have plenty of power available if you're going to be converting it from water.) I don't see them sloving the problem with photosynthetic means anytime in the near future and the energy required (and materials) to convert carbon dioxide to oxygen would not be feasible for such a mission either.

There's a feasibility study PDF link in the Boobies here: Link They obviously think they can pack enough for them, but I still have to wonder how much redundancy they're building in.

I think your point is more than valid. That and the radiation exposure dangers ultimately mean that this whole thing is just a big farking pipe dream. If he wants to do a long term study of people in space just park them at an Earth Moon L-point for 500 days. They'll be a lot closer to home if something goes wrong and they can glean the same scientific knowledge that they could from a loop-the-Mars mission.

I think the guy should put his money somewhere else. If he wants to spend the $ in space, great, but how about not just pissing it (and two people's lives) away? How about building some robots and sending them to Europa or something? And he shouldn't try to pass it off as pure science; it's reality show science.
 
2013-02-28 02:24:45 AM  
Because I'm going to bed and too lazy to GIS.

beargrylls.jpg
 
2013-02-28 02:27:06 AM  
Also: How has this:
l2.yimg.com
not been posted yet?
 
2013-02-28 02:31:31 AM  
If you're going to colonize a planet you need 4 males ages 25-32 and 16 females aged 16-22
 
2013-02-28 02:34:05 AM  
If I can have Timothy Olyphant for my wife then let's go.
 
2013-02-28 02:52:31 AM  

gadian: Relatively Obscure: Woah. Mars is no place to raise a kid. In fact, it's cold as hell.

Eh, they'll get over it.  And have no trouble picking up chicks when they start dating.


I have a feeling you'll be burning out your fuse up there, alone.
 
2013-02-28 02:57:04 AM  
StopLurkListen:
Cisgendered heteronormative? Because the last thing I want is to be surprised about that kind of thing of Day 1 of a 500 day trip. These details matter, you know.

Don't worry, in that much time you'd... adjust.

 The team of space veterans behind the project hasn't quite figured out the technical details of the rocket they will use or the capsule the husband-and-wife astronauts will live in during the 16-month voyage.

Yeah, those are a few teensy tiny little details for a mission you want to launch 5 years from now.  Anyway this is a rubbish plan.  Send only two people out for 500 days just to buzz past the planet?  What exactly does that accomplish, other than generate a lot of publicity and cost a LOT of money?
 
2013-02-28 02:57:14 AM  
There's NO REASON to go. Jeez, if you want to experience something similar, just wander out in the middle of the Gobi desert while wearing a deep-sea diving suit, and stay there for a year and a half.

There. I just save us like a billion dollars.
 
2013-02-28 03:08:52 AM  

ZeroCorpse: There's NO REASON to go. Jeez, if you want to experience something similar, just wander out in the middle of the Gobi desert while wearing a deep-sea diving suit, and stay there for a year and a half.

There. I just save us like a billion dollars.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-28 03:10:07 AM  
Magellan, Cabot, Cook, Franklin, etc..all took one-way trips in their explorations.
My question is, why couldn't my wife do the same?
 
2013-02-28 03:13:09 AM  
Can I choose a new wife before I go?

My wife would not want to go on the trip.
 
2013-02-28 04:27:57 AM  
No internet? Someone would die.
 
2013-02-28 04:49:14 AM  
YES! I would go. I would take my wife with me. Seriously? How could I not want to? My wife would be hesitant, until I mention the awesome fringe benefit of ... Zero gravity sex!

I already live most of the American dream, I'm a white guy who screws a minority. I may as well live the Ultimate dream, of doing that in space.

And we can catch up on reading and video games!

/now I've only got to find a babysitter
//name a more niche porn than "inter-racial, zero-gravity, ANY kind of sex"
 
2013-02-28 05:16:05 AM  

The Snow Dog: They'll be a lot closer to home if something goes wrong and they can glean the same scientific knowledge that they could from a loop-the-Mars mission


You don't go to mars only for science. That's why NASA has fallen hard from grace in the budgets. The nerds just don't understand how normal people think.

This guy does. We want people to visit mars because we want to visit mars but cannot. No one cares about the science per se, but only as it relates to visiting other planets. Back in the day we got to the moon and people still talk about it. Why? That shiat's farkin' awesome. We're doing a lot more science on the ISS and nobody really cares until a space shuttle explodes? Why? R&D is boring.

Space tourism, if it could be cheapened, would bring in money that would make government budgets look like chump change because at the end of the day all people really care about is themselves. They want to go play golf on the moon. The insistence on mission efficiency is a bane to space research. The more boring the missions, the less people want to pay for them. This guy has the right idea. Get people excited about stuff, even if it's not much scientifically, it's much more important the masses are into it than we identify another silica crystal variety.
 
2013-02-28 05:29:27 AM  

rubi_con_man: If you're going to colonize a planet you need 4 males ages 25-32 and 16 females aged 16-22


This part sounds like fun
 
2013-02-28 05:51:34 AM  

Head_Shot: Other than the Mars thing...how is this any different than what were doing now?


Well, for one thing, the Earth is just a lifeless, dangerous mud ball, a rock, constantly threatened by species-destroying asteroids. Mars on the other hand, is a paradise, the Promised Land of the Space Nutter religion.
/I just hope the pack a 3D printer
 
2013-02-28 05:52:24 AM  
Anyone could see the road that they walk on is paved in gold
And it's always summer, they'll never get cold
They'll never get hungry, they'll never get old and gray
You can see their shadows wandering off somewhere
They won't make it home but they really don't care...

dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-02-28 06:07:58 AM  
This just makes me want to play Kerbal Space Program.  All they gotta to do make this work is attach some random solar panels to the thing, and make sure they get the staging right so they don't detach the fuel supply for the return voyage like happens every god damned time after hours and hours spent designing the rocket and running the mission. God damnit.

/gonna EVA those farkers and watch them de-orbit as penance for their (my)failure.
 
2013-02-28 06:26:19 AM  
FTA: Even though some of the hardware hasn't even been built, Mr. Tito said he is confident everything will come together by 2018 with no test flights.

Who would volunteer for this other than someone with a death wish?
 
2013-02-28 06:27:50 AM  
No showers, no TP, ...

Why not just take a Carnival Cruise?
 
2013-02-28 06:34:11 AM  

gadian: I'd do it.  The kids would understand, right?  Hell, they can come too.


Mars aint the kind of place to raise your kids. in fact its cold as hell.
 
2013-02-28 06:39:47 AM  
I have always wondered if, on a mission like that, do they have a plan or device to get rid of a body, if someone dies. It would be a bummer to be stuck in a capsule with a dead body, for months.
 
2013-02-28 06:40:01 AM  
I am officially looking for someone to go with. I promise good behavior and total submission, as long as you let me go to Mars. Yes, I am that desperate to get off this rock.
 
2013-02-28 06:43:21 AM  

Befuddled: Who would volunteer for this other than someone with a death wish?


Adventure is often at great risk.
 
2013-02-28 06:47:07 AM  
My wife an I are both up for going. We're in good shape, younger (I 28, she 26), college educated. Only hangup is that we just had a kid 4 months ago. I don't think we can pawn off the kid to my in-laws for two years.

/If only
 
2013-02-28 06:50:22 AM  
There is NO ONE I want to be trapped with for 500 days. And no one wants to be trapped with me that long either
 
2013-02-28 07:07:36 AM  
Two astronauts, one cup.
 
2013-02-28 07:09:19 AM  

Pick: I have always wondered if, on a mission like that, do they have a plan or device to get rid of a body, if someone dies. It would be a bummer to be stuck in a capsule with a dead body, for months.


Just air lock 'em. No biggie.
 
2013-02-28 07:26:45 AM  
At this point, I'd hold on to the outside of the ship if it got me into space.
 
2013-02-28 07:33:24 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Two astronauts, one cup.


Interesting fact: the original Apollo missons didn't really have a good toilet system, so the air in the capsule got a little whiffy. So wiffy, in fact, when the SEALs recovered the astronauts from their capsule, they threw up after opening the hatch.
 
2013-02-28 07:54:55 AM  
So it's like couples thru-hiking the AT. Got it.
 
2013-02-28 08:18:48 AM  
i1194.photobucket.com
Artificial gravity. Because osteoporosis sucks.
 
2013-02-28 08:20:30 AM  
While I guess I understand the "Geewhiz" bit, this mission makes very little sense

It's a free return mission- you don't even orbit the planet.  Science return will be zero.

For the crew, it's about 6 hours of excitement at the start and then sitting in a tiny room for 500 days.  You're not even going to have big windows to view Mars for the few hours you can see it.

For the public, there's no payoff.  Folks want to see some guy jumping off a lander, muffing his big line and then bouncing around on the surface, not two people in a box returning photos that are worse than what the MRO can already do.  It will be even more boring than the ISS since you won't even have the fun of watching the Earth go by.
 
2013-02-28 08:29:45 AM  
Cthulu is my homeboy:  I would keep the power, engines, and support with the capsule, and leave deadweight mass and science gear as the counterweight, in case that tether snaps...
 
2013-02-28 08:38:39 AM  
So, which couple wants to be the first one to have their mummified corpses slowly orbiting the sun for the rest of eternity?

\ You know that's how this will end if it actually goes ahead.
\\Which it won't.
 
2013-02-28 08:40:05 AM  
Sure, I'll go with my Canadian wife. You haven't met her, but she's really hot.
 
2013-02-28 08:41:49 AM  
I should mention that you have to be old because you are going to die on the trip or soon after due to the radiation.
 
2013-02-28 08:46:22 AM  

Any Pie Left: Cthulu is my homeboy:  I would keep the power, engines, and support with the capsule, and leave deadweight mass and science gear as the counterweight, in case that tether snaps...


Doing it that way requires you to have a deadweight mass that weighs as much as the spacecraft itself, which is extremely wasteful when you're talking a billion dollars a pound.

It's much easier to just make the tether far stronger than it needs to be to support the weight of the mass at each end.
 
2013-02-28 08:50:34 AM  
You mean Morgan Fairchild?
 
2013-02-28 08:54:27 AM  

Znuh: No.


No.
 
2013-02-28 08:56:25 AM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: The story is also on io9 right now.

The most popular comment thread there is a bunch of people whining about the fact the spacefaring couple is expected to be "heteronormative".


Well, if he is sending two people and wants to send a man and a woman for equality reasons and believes that two people already in a long-term, close, emotional relationship would be more likely to survive the trip without killing each other, that doesn't really leave much room for relationships other than heterosexual ones, does it?
 
2013-02-28 08:58:12 AM  

rubi_con_man: If you're going to colonize a planet you need 4 males ages 25-32 and 16 females aged 16-22


Turns out that making a civilization work is going to take more than just reproduction.
 
2013-02-28 09:11:39 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Any Pie Left: Cthulu is my homeboy:  I would keep the power, engines, and support with the capsule, and leave deadweight mass and science gear as the counterweight, in case that tether snaps...

Doing it that way requires you to have a deadweight mass that weighs as much as the spacecraft itself, which is extremely wasteful when you're talking a billion dollars a pound.

It's much easier to just make the tether far stronger than it needs to be to support the weight of the mass at each end.


a billion dollars a pound?  I think you're pretty far off on that estimate.  Curiosity weighs apprx 2,000 lbs (this doesn't include the launch rocket, etc)  and the whole program cost $2.5 billion... all of which comes out to about $1.25 million / pound.

Also, regarding the tether... if it did snap, nothing else would matter.  You would careen off in the wrong direction and end up like skodabunny suggested.

skodabunny: mummified corpses

 
2013-02-28 09:29:36 AM  
I would do it in a heartbeat.  I'd love nothing more than to be on a deserted island (or in the middle of BFE-Montana) with my wife as it is.

What's up with all of you people being married to people you hate?
 
2013-02-28 09:34:08 AM  
Be certain that your wife will not attempt to kill you should you force her to go to Mars.


www.wearysloth.com

You know how much she hates that farking planet.
 
2013-02-28 09:57:07 AM  
Might be worth it if I can leave her there when I return to earth...
 
2013-02-28 10:31:41 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Head_Shot: Other than the Mars thing...how is this any different than what were doing now?

Well, for one thing, the Earth is just a lifeless, dangerous mud ball, a rock, constantly threatened by species-destroying asteroids. Mars on the other hand, is a paradise, the Promised Land of the Space Nutter religion.
/I just hope the pack a 3D printer


You are a sad, bitter, obsessed little man, and I pity you.
 
2013-02-28 10:34:00 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: [i1194.photobucket.com image 800x600]
Artificial gravity. Because osteoporosis sucks.


You could go that route, but you don't have to. The ISS folks have figured out that 2 hours of exercise per day mitigates both muscle and bone loss.

I'm thinking a rotational period of 45 seconds would have me puking my guts out for 501 days (and I'm not prone to motion sickness). Your inner ear knows the difference. That's partly why they never added the spinning node to the ISS.
 
2013-02-28 10:45:02 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Head_Shot: Other than the Mars thing...how is this any different than what were doing now?

Well, for one thing, the Earth is just a lifeless, dangerous mud ball, a rock, constantly threatened by species-destroying asteroids. Mars on the other hand, is a paradise, the Promised Land of the Space Nutter religion.
/I just hope the pack a 3D printer


How is it you never seem to show up in the threads about 3D printing habitats out of regolith on the moon. We missed you and your original perspective on the subject (much like we'd miss a flaming hemorrhoid). Come on man! When was the last time you asked someone how old an atom was? You are definitely off your game.
 
2013-02-28 11:12:50 AM  
Tyrone Slothrop

Sure, I'll go with my Canadian wife. You haven't met her, but she's really hot.

I think I met him at the White Party.
 
2013-02-28 11:57:10 AM  
Hell, I won't go on a two day road trip with my wife.

The last damn thing I need is 501 days of being told that I am not flying the right direction.
 
2013-02-28 12:02:06 PM  
If by "wife" you mean "Kate Beckinsale tied up and gagged with duct tape frantically shaking her head when I say she's my wife and she wants to spend the next 500 days in a tiny spaceship with me millions of miles away from help rescue civilisation" then count me in.

/How long does it take for the Stockholm Syndrome to kick in?
//Where can I buy duct tape cheap?
 
2013-02-28 12:10:11 PM  
After that much time the skeletal and muscular adjustments due to low gravity would mean you wouldn't be able to come back to earth.  After half a year in orbit and four hours a day of heavy exercise the risk of heart attack, stroke and bone breakage is severe.
 
2013-02-28 12:43:10 PM  

Treize26: This just makes me want to play Kerbal Space Program.  All they gotta to do make this work is attach some random solar panels to the thing, and make sure they get the staging right so they don't detach the fuel supply for the return voyage like happens every god damned time after hours and hours spent designing the rocket and running the mission. God damnit.

/gonna EVA those farkers and watch them de-orbit as penance for their (my)failure.


Dude. You need to learn the power of the quick save!
 
2013-02-28 01:06:55 PM  
Sure why not?  Think of all the bonding.  Would be fun.
 
2013-02-28 01:12:22 PM  
Urine and feces are processed in the thigh pads......
 
2013-02-28 01:27:57 PM  
We already work, live, and play together. Think we're going to try and sign up for this.
 
2013-02-28 02:00:55 PM  
Everyone is out with a snark here.  Me, I'd do it 100%.  Fark yeah!
 
2013-02-28 03:26:59 PM  

meanmutton: rubi_con_man: If you're going to colonize a planet you need 4 males ages 25-32 and 16 females aged 16-22

Turns out that making a civilization work is going to take more than just reproduction.




Well yoiu have math. How many times does 4 go into 16?
 
2013-02-28 03:52:37 PM  
I'd go. Mrs. Acefox1 and I have a pretty strong relationship. If we could both bring our laptops along I'm sure we'd do fine. Interplanetary web surfing might be tricky though.
 
2013-02-28 04:56:29 PM  
borderhouseblog.com
 
2013-02-28 05:35:03 PM  

The Snow Dog: And he shouldn't try to pass it off as pure science; it's reality show science.


images.zap2it.com

What space travel turned into a reality show might look like.
 
2013-02-28 05:49:13 PM  
I'd go.  Wife wouldn't want to.

No reason it should take that long, though:  We could do the round trip in 4 months if we wanted to.
 
2013-02-28 06:04:24 PM  

Arthen: After that much time the skeletal and muscular adjustments due to low gravity would mean you wouldn't be able to come back to earth.  After half a year in orbit and four hours a day of heavy exercise the risk of heart attack, stroke and bone breakage is severe.


A little late to be adding a comment to this thread, but Valeri Polyakov would tend to disagree with this assessment after spending 437 days in orbit (all of them heart attack and bone breakage free).
 
2013-02-28 06:09:16 PM  
No.
 
2013-02-28 06:49:26 PM  
I'm gonna need some sticky back Velcro, bungee cords, perhaps some leather straps, duct tape and condoms. Can't have that semen gumming up the electronics.
 
2013-02-28 07:56:42 PM  
Let me bring Skyrim and we'll have no problems.
 
2013-02-28 09:46:02 PM  

doglover: The Snow Dog: They'll be a lot closer to home if something goes wrong and they can glean the same scientific knowledge that they could from a loop-the-Mars mission

You don't go to mars only for science. That's why NASA has fallen hard from grace in the budgets. The nerds just don't understand how normal people think.

This guy does. We want people to visit mars because we want to visit mars but cannot. No one cares about the science per se, but only as it relates to visiting other planets. Back in the day we got to the moon and people still talk about it. Why? That shiat's farkin' awesome. We're doing a lot more science on the ISS and nobody really cares until a space shuttle explodes? Why? R&D is boring.

Space tourism, if it could be cheapened, would bring in money that would make government budgets look like chump change because at the end of the day all people really care about is themselves. They want to go play golf on the moon. The insistence on mission efficiency is a bane to space research. The more boring the missions, the less people want to pay for them. This guy has the right idea. Get people excited about stuff, even if it's not much scientifically, it's much more important the masses are into it than we identify another silica crystal variety.


Don't get me wrong.

I'm not saying we shouldn't go to space for fun or for tourism. I'm saying that we should do it inbabresponsible fashion. The technologies to keep these people safe on their journey has not been developed yet. Yes, we have great experience with long stays on the space stations, but these are protected from radiation by the Van Allen belts.

What I'm saying is the science, hard science, to keep these people alive needs to be responsibly developed. If you shoot a happily married couple into space and they give up the space ghost: you're setting back the idea of space tourism. You remember the moon landing fondly and so do I. What if the first astronauts there died a horrible death on national TV? While great kindling for Fark threads, it would be bad for...

Come to think of it--Fark it! Let's light this candle! But can we do it with Lindsay Lohan and the Aurora, CO movie theater shooter?
 
2013-02-28 09:53:08 PM  

Flappyhead: Let me bring Skyrim and we'll have no problems.


Yes you will. It'll be pretty frustrating to get up there and find the only entertainment you brought is a game you can't play. You'd self-destruct within a week.
 
2013-03-01 12:43:43 AM  

doglover: You don't go to mars only for science. That's why NASA has fallen hard from grace in the budgets. The nerds just don't understand how normal people think.


Finally...somebody else gets it as well.
 
2013-03-01 12:59:11 AM  

The Snow Dog: doglover: The Snow Dog: They'll be a lot closer to home if something goes wrong and they can glean the same scientific knowledge that they could from a loop-the-Mars mission

You don't go to mars only for science. That's why NASA has fallen hard from grace in the budgets. The nerds just don't understand how normal people think.

This guy does. We want people to visit mars because we want to visit mars but cannot. No one cares about the science per se, but only as it relates to visiting other planets. Back in the day we got to the moon and people still talk about it. Why? That shiat's farkin' awesome. We're doing a lot more science on the ISS and nobody really cares until a space shuttle explodes? Why? R&D is boring.

Space tourism, if it could be cheapened, would bring in money that would make government budgets look like chump change because at the end of the day all people really care about is themselves. They want to go play golf on the moon. The insistence on mission efficiency is a bane to space research. The more boring the missions, the less people want to pay for them. This guy has the right idea. Get people excited about stuff, even if it's not much scientifically, it's much more important the masses are into it than we identify another silica crystal variety.

Don't get me wrong.

I'm not saying we shouldn't go to space for fun or for tourism. I'm saying that we should do it inbabresponsible fashion. The technologies to keep these people safe on their journey has not been developed yet. Yes, we have great experience with long stays on the space stations, but these are protected from radiation by the Van Allen belts.

What I'm saying is the science, hard science, to keep these people alive needs to be responsibly developed. If you shoot a happily married couple into space and they give up the space ghost: you're setting back the idea of space tourism. You remember the moon landing fondly and so do I. What if the first astronauts there died a horrible death ..


inbabresponsible

It's a cool word.


.
 
2013-03-01 02:01:17 AM  
I'd go with her.  I just wouldn't come back with her.
 
2013-03-02 10:27:14 AM  

mr lawson: doglover: You don't go to mars only for science. That's why NASA has fallen hard from grace in the budgets. The nerds just don't understand how normal people think.

Finally...somebody else gets it as well.


One thing I've never understood...why not fund missions with a lottery? I'll bet half a billion people would but two-dollar tickets for a chance to go to the space station.
I asked my sister-in-law (a big muckety-muck NASA scientist) this question. She just laughed. But I still don't know why not.
 
2013-03-03 08:28:46 AM  
king of vegas * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-02-28 05:29:27 AM rubi_con_man: If you're going to colonize a planet you need 4 males ages 25-32 and 16 females aged 16-22 This part sounds like fun
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4 to 1 odds and stuck on another planet and I probably still wouldn't get laid.
 
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