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2013-02-27 09:56:07 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: true, but how many kids of US politicians are doing something like this?
Hell, how many of them have actual jobs?


Which is why the disclaimer at the beginning was meant to be sincere rather than another layer of snark.  Actually flying SAR missions, especially if their in non-clear weather which would be normal for the UK, is kilometers beyond political children such as the Romney clan which claim they're serving their country by working on their father's campaign.  And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.  At least for normal people.  This is the area his brother has over him having actually deployed to a combat zone.

Oddly enough, the list of US politicians with sons/daughters in the military doesn't closely resemble the list of US politicians that most advocate using that military in war.
 
2013-02-27 10:07:37 PM  
Hmm, normally threads about SAR personnel are all about "Good job" and "God bless!" and on and on about the rescuers being big damn heroes no matter how frequently the personnel is active or how easy / complicated the rescue.  Yet when it comes to a rich kid man doing the rescuing its all "meh, no big deal".  Huh.  I guess SAR personnel are down a few hero rungs and I'd assume firemen are next.
 
2013-02-27 10:15:58 PM  

Summoner101: Unoriginal_Username: true, but how many kids of US politicians are doing something like this?
Hell, how many of them have actual jobs?

Which is why the disclaimer at the beginning was meant to be sincere rather than another layer of snark.  Actually flying SAR missions, especially if their in non-clear weather which would be normal for the UK, is kilometers beyond political children such as the Romney clan which claim they're serving their country by working on their father's campaign.  And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.  At least for normal people.  This is the area his brother has over him having actually deployed to a combat zone.

Oddly enough, the list of US politicians with sons/daughters in the military doesn't closely resemble the list of US politicians that most advocate using that military in war.


for some reason, that fact does not surprise me in one bit. Though I wouldn't be shocked to hear they have family members in the arms business
 
2013-02-27 10:20:38 PM  
I love that he's the ultimate trust fund kiddie and instead of being a total waste of cum hipster douche he's actually doing things for the public good.
 
2013-02-27 10:20:50 PM  

Summoner101: Unoriginal_Username: true, but how many kids of US politicians are doing something like this?
Hell, how many of them have actual jobs?

Which is why the disclaimer at the beginning was meant to be sincere rather than another layer of snark.  Actually flying SAR missions, especially if their in non-clear weather which would be normal for the UK, is kilometers beyond political children such as the Romney clan which claim they're serving their country by working on their father's campaign.  And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.  At least for normal people.  This is the area his brother has over him having actually deployed to a combat zone.

Oddly enough, the list of US politicians with sons/daughters in the military doesn't closely resemble the list of US politicians that most advocate using that military in war.


I looked for an article on that and found this from back in 2008:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Sep/05/politi ci ans_with_children_in_war_zones.html

It wasnt many.  Even so both sides continue the war in Afghanistan along with our President.  I do applaud them for drawing it down.
 
2013-02-27 10:24:23 PM  
Oh god, I just realized he wasn't rescuing people, he was retrieving lost family property.

/Remember, Brits aren't really people, they're property of the royals.
 
2013-02-27 10:26:31 PM  
no professional becomes a hero simply by virtue of acting is a competent manner within the scope of their employment and no person becomes a hero for acting according to moral dictates that require them to protect those they have special interpersonal relationships with.
no operator of common carrier becomes a hero simply by virtue of doing what they are legally bound to do, which is in all cases is to attempt to protect their passengers from danger they would not otherwise be exposed to (sorry sully but I'm sure you are aware of this and wouldn't call yourself a hero in any event).
no doctor is a hero for acting in a competent manner and providing life saving care to a patient.
no lawyer is a hero for jealously protecting their attorney-client privilege as required.
no reporter is a hero for guarding the identity of their source.
no father is a hero for attempting to protect his child.
these are duties.
you become a hero by putting yourself at a not insubstantial risk when not required to by professional, moral, or employment requirements in order to save someone whom you have no duty to do so.

/obviously, the dude who jumped into the potomac and the fireman climbing a tree to save a kitten still can be a hero.
//not commenting on went down here, drtfa
 
2013-02-27 10:29:50 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Summoner101: Unoriginal_Username: true, but how many kids of US politicians are doing something like this?
Hell, how many of them have actual jobs?

Which is why the disclaimer at the beginning was meant to be sincere rather than another layer of snark.  Actually flying SAR missions, especially if their in non-clear weather which would be normal for the UK, is kilometers beyond political children such as the Romney clan which claim they're serving their country by working on their father's campaign.  And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.  At least for normal people.  This is the area his brother has over him having actually deployed to a combat zone.

Oddly enough, the list of US politicians with sons/daughters in the military doesn't closely resemble the list of US politicians that most advocate using that military in war.

I looked for an article on that and found this from back in 2008:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Sep/05/politi ci ans_with_children_in_war_zones.html

It wasnt many.  Even so both sides continue the war in Afghanistan along with our President.  I do applaud them for drawing it down.


they were the ones who ramped it up, and got involved with yemen and lybia and now syria.
 
2013-02-27 10:32:51 PM  

vpb: Sounds pretty cool, really.
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This. Plus he would have made them pancakes.
 
2013-02-27 10:38:39 PM  
Guy does job, which involves saving lives, more at 11.

Meanwhile, where's all the credits to regular Joes like paramedics and firefighters who also save people while putting themselves in danger? Oh, they're not important royals, nevermind.....
 
2013-02-27 11:11:39 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Looks good in the papers and eventually history books, but he still does less for the world than any of us.


I dunno, the most important thing I do is make sure people don't buy 3.2% at the grocery I work at, and instead get some microbrew from the local business next door.

So, you know, yeah.
 
2013-02-27 11:14:34 PM  
Everytime there is a hero thread, there are killjoys. Okay, okay, maybe he isn't a hero. But I'll tell you this, he is a badass.

There should be a "badass" tag on fark for stuff like this.
 
2013-02-27 11:14:35 PM  
I suppose its just that every single one of the prince's missions makes international news
 
2013-02-27 11:27:18 PM  

gadian: Hmm, normally threads about SAR personnel are all about "Good job" and "God bless!" and on and on about the rescuers being big damn heroes no matter how frequently the personnel is active or how easy / complicated the rescue.  Yet when it comes to a rich kid man doing the rescuing its all "meh, no big deal".


Because it's entirely self serving in this case, and as natural and candid as the photo shown in the article of him sitting in a chopper heroically looking off into the distance. It's all about his public image, not actually helping people.

The real heroes are the ones who do this stuff regularly for 30-40 years without celebration, and he's just trying to piggyback on their honor. Or honour if you prefer.
 
2013-02-27 11:30:02 PM  
The victim rescued: Lennay Kekua

She died on the operating table, but was later seen dancing at a Decemberist concert.
 
2013-02-27 11:39:41 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Because it's entirely self serving in this case


You don't know that.  He could just generally want to save lives and has to deal with press while doing so.  His brother had the same issue serving in combat.  You could also argue that anyone who does the job 30 -40 years isn't exactly doing it for altruistic reasons either.
 
2013-02-27 11:49:43 PM  

Raw_fishFood: J. Frank Parnell: Looks good in the papers and eventually history books, but he still does less for the world than any of us.

I dunno, the most important thing I do is make sure people don't buy 3.2% at the grocery I work at, and instead get some microbrew from the local business next door.

So, you know, yeah.


Compared to a douche that flies a helicopter that is fueled and maintained by a crew of about nine people that are paid for by his government and considering that he is watched over specifically so that he is never, ever, exposed to a situation that could possibly be dangerous,  you are a hero.

For all the aristocrat fellating shiat stains, touting this boys heroics...sucking dick is all you are good for. (i'd be surprised if you were passable applicants)  Wake me when there is a prince in the royal irish fusiliers.
 
2013-02-27 11:54:25 PM  

gadian: J. Frank Parnell: Because it's entirely self serving in this case

You don't know that.  He could just generally want to save lives and has to deal with press while doing so.  His brother had the same issue serving in combat.  You could also argue that anyone who does the job 30 -40 years isn't exactly doing it for altruistic reasons either.


you have some future aristocrat batter on your face, remove it, its disgusting.
 
2013-02-27 11:58:22 PM  

gadian: His brother had the same issue serving in combat.


That was an even more transparent spectacle.

If you don't want to believe royal families are acutely aware of their public image and stage things to create certain impressions among the more gullible of the public, then i just can't reach you no matter what i say. This sort of thing is as old as royal families themselves.

But giving him the benefit of the doubt: if he is really so passionate about helping people, and oddly waited until he was 30 to help anyone, then now that he's done a little bit he should be hooked, and for the rest of his life instead of bumming around the palace every free moment should be devoted to helping people. I would love to see that.
 
2013-02-28 12:12:13 AM  

thisisarepeat: Raw_fishFood: J. Frank Parnell: Looks good in the papers and eventually history books, but he still does less for the world than any of us.

I dunno, the most important thing I do is make sure people don't buy 3.2% at the grocery I work at, and instead get some microbrew from the local business next door.

So, you know, yeah.

Compared to a douche that flies a helicopter that is fueled and maintained by a crew of about nine people that are paid for by his government and considering that he is watched over specifically so that he is never, ever, exposed to a situation that could possibly be dangerous,  you are a hero.

For all the aristocrat fellating shiat stains, touting this boys heroics...sucking dick is all you are good for. (i'd be surprised if you were passable applicants)  Wake me when there is a prince in the royal irish fusiliers.


Know how I know you've never been involved with SAR or had anything to do with helicopters?  Particularly in British weather?
 
2013-02-28 12:12:53 AM  
When reporting combat service, pilots should have an asterisk by their name.
 
2013-02-28 12:18:16 AM  

RangerTaylor: thisisarepeat: Raw_fishFood: J. Frank Parnell: Looks good in the papers and eventually history books, but he still does less for the world than any of us.

I dunno, the most important thing I do is make sure people don't buy 3.2% at the grocery I work at, and instead get some microbrew from the local business next door.

So, you know, yeah.

Compared to a douche that flies a helicopter that is fueled and maintained by a crew of about nine people that are paid for by his government and considering that he is watched over specifically so that he is never, ever, exposed to a situation that could possibly be dangerous,  you are a hero.

For all the aristocrat fellating shiat stains, touting this boys heroics...sucking dick is all you are good for. (i'd be surprised if you were passable applicants)  Wake me when there is a prince in the royal irish fusiliers.

Know how I know you've never been involved with SAR or had anything to do with helicopters?  Particularly in British weather?


You are right about British weather.  Go on.
 
2013-02-28 12:30:32 AM  

wildcardjack: Oh god, I just realized he wasn't rescuing people, he was retrieving lost family property.

/Remember, Brits aren't really people, they're property of the royals.


I think they prefer "subjects".  I'm not sure what that makes Canadians, abandoned?
 
2013-02-28 12:39:52 AM  

thisisarepeat: wildcardjack: Oh god, I just realized he wasn't rescuing people, he was retrieving lost family property.

/Remember, Brits aren't really people, they're property of the royals.

I think they prefer "subjects".  I'm not sure what that makes Canadians, abandoned?


Nope, we are citizens.
 
2013-02-28 12:48:01 AM  

ukexpat: thisisarepeat: wildcardjack: Oh god, I just realized he wasn't rescuing people, he was retrieving lost family property.

/Remember, Brits aren't really people, they're property of the royals.

I think they prefer "subjects".  I'm not sure what that makes Canadians, abandoned?

Nope, we are citizens.


Cheers
 
2013-02-28 12:49:57 AM  

Summoner101: And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.


You're basing your contention that 4 missions in 6 months isn't much on what, exactly? A gut feeling? The RAF Air Rescue site brags that they have over 1000 callouts a year, so 80 a month or so. Wiki shows them having 12 bases, so that leaves 7 missions a month for each base, on average, and I'm betting they're not evenly distributed. I'd guess they each have to have a few different helicopters on standby at any given time, which means at least 3 shifts of 2 crews, so you're looking at around 1 mission a month, if those crews never get a day off. Of course they do get days off and breaks, so you add another two crews to rotate in. All of a sudden, 4 missions in 6 months looks like a pretty typical number.
 
2013-02-28 01:07:03 AM  

cptjeff: Summoner101: And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.

You're basing your contention that 4 missions in 6 months isn't much on what, exactly? A gut feeling? The RAF Air Rescue site brags that they have over 1000 callouts a year, so 80 a month or so. Wiki shows them having 12 bases, so that leaves 7 missions a month for each base, on average, and I'm betting they're not evenly distributed. I'd guess they each have to have a few different helicopters on standby at any given time, which means at least 3 shifts of 2 crews, so you're looking at around 1 mission a month, if those crews never get a day off. Of course they do get days off and breaks, so you add another two crews to rotate in. All of a sudden, 4 missions in 6 months looks like a pretty typical number.


Typical then, but not a lot.
 
2013-02-28 01:18:29 AM  

thisisarepeat: cptjeff: Summoner101: And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.

You're basing your contention that 4 missions in 6 months isn't much on what, exactly? A gut feeling? The RAF Air Rescue site brags that they have over 1000 callouts a year, so 80 a month or so. Wiki shows them having 12 bases, so that leaves 7 missions a month for each base, on average, and I'm betting they're not evenly distributed. I'd guess they each have to have a few different helicopters on standby at any given time, which means at least 3 shifts of 2 crews, so you're looking at around 1 mission a month, if those crews never get a day off. Of course they do get days off and breaks, so you add another two crews to rotate in. All of a sudden, 4 missions in 6 months looks like a pretty typical number.

Typical then, but not a lot.


It could be a lot. If they keep 3 helicopters on call at a time in some locations rather than 2, all of a sudden it does jump to a lot.
 
2013-02-28 01:44:09 AM  
thisisarepeat,you sound jealous.
 
2013-02-28 01:47:43 AM  

cptjeff: thisisarepeat: cptjeff: Summoner101: And while his SAR missions are commendable, what I take from the article is that four missions in six months is a lot which it isn't.

You're basing your contention that 4 missions in 6 months isn't much on what, exactly? A gut feeling? The RAF Air Rescue site brags that they have over 1000 callouts a year, so 80 a month or so. Wiki shows them having 12 bases, so that leaves 7 missions a month for each base, on average, and I'm betting they're not evenly distributed. I'd guess they each have to have a few different helicopters on standby at any given time, which means at least 3 shifts of 2 crews, so you're looking at around 1 mission a month, if those crews never get a day off. Of course they do get days off and breaks, so you add another two crews to rotate in. All of a sudden, 4 missions in 6 months looks like a pretty typical number.

Typical then, but not a lot.

It could be a lot. If they keep 3 helicopters on call at a time in some locations rather than 2, all of a sudden it does jump to a lot.


It could be. If they had only one autogyro and a single squad of drunken monkeys, it would be incredibly impressive.
 
2013-02-28 01:50:09 AM  

SJKebab: thisisarepeat,you sound jealous.


That's just because I'm jealous.

Dick
 
2013-02-28 01:59:28 AM  
I bet this is an average week for some coasty with a 2100 sq ft house in shiatty Beach Florida.
 
2013-02-28 02:18:43 AM  

thisisarepeat: SJKebab: thisisarepeat,you sound jealous.

That's just because I'm jealous.

Dick


Speaking of which, word on the street has is that he has an 11" cock too.
 
2013-02-28 02:46:27 AM  
Everyone complaining he is simply doing his job need to remember a few things:
He and his brother are rich, on their own outside being a royal heir.
He doesn't have to have a job, especially a dangerous one like has gotten into.
He saves people for a living. We call Firemen, who are simply just doing their jobs, heroes. They get into the news when they save people.
He is doing the Noble thing instead of the lazy Rich kid thing.How many other children of insanely wealthy parents or 'dynasties' are doing anything even close to as worthy as that?
Oh, there a few, but the number is very small.

As a Canadian I will feel proud that we still have ties, however ceremonial, with a future Monarch like him.

God save the Queen
And when that day comes, God save the King

/And I expect to feel the burns of raging flames coming hard and fast...
 
2013-02-28 05:02:21 AM  
I love it. News site says that Lindsay Lohan was arrested again for drugs, everyone wants to watch. News site says that a Prince, who ismost likely the next King of England (let's face it, I think the current Queen is waiting until William is old enough and then try to supersede her son for her grandson), actually does something that shows good moral fiber (and hopefully a good role model at that), and people give him snark.

It's nice to see some good upstanding celebrities actually utilizing their influence to try to bring about positive changes to the world. It's also pretty cool to see Harry calm the fark down and start behaving proper.

I mean, I'm a pretty cynical person and even I can appreciate this.
 
2013-02-28 07:00:31 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Still waiting for the old bag to kick the bucket. Harry will rise up, kill his brother, and take his rightful place as King of England.


Oh, you mean this old bag?

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Because I don't think she appreciates your lip.  :D
 
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