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2013-02-27 04:44:59 PM
My sources tell me it wasn't an issue of Christie's stances. It's because CPAC is about small budgets and the caterer would have charged more if Chrisite was coming.
 
2013-02-27 04:47:17 PM
ideology purity is more important than winning elections.  mindless obedience to GOP central authority is the ONLY way to take back this country and make everyone free!

so remember - don't think, just obey.  it's the only way to be free.
 
2013-02-27 04:52:06 PM

WTF Indeed: My sources tell me it wasn't an issue of Christie's stances. It's because CPAC is about small budgets and the caterer would have charged more if Chrisite was coming.


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"Your words hurt, man."
 
2013-02-27 04:59:11 PM
www.washingtonpost.com
"Hey, baby, wanna go back to my office and play 'find the salami'? No, really, I brought one to work with me today for lunch and now I can't find it. I'm starving!"
 
2013-02-27 05:09:27 PM
I feel so dirty when I agree with Krauthammer.
 
2013-02-27 05:12:32 PM
I love it when Republicans eat their own.
 
2013-02-27 05:13:22 PM
media.lehighvalleylive.com
"Sides are being divided now. It's very obvious. So if you're on the other side of the fence, you're suddenly anti-American. It's breeding fear of being on the wrong side."*


*Actually said by author and screenwriter Sam Shepard (The Notebook, Black Hawk Down, Safe House)
 
2013-02-27 05:16:26 PM
All I know is Tony Soprano got shiat done while dealing with personal and family crises. Seems a shame for the GOP to ignore the experience of an up and comer.

/my experience with New Jersey.
 
2013-02-27 05:16:50 PM
A rare moment of clarity from a man that sh*t his brains into a colostomy bag a looooooong time ago.
 
2013-02-27 05:23:30 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I feel so dirty when I agree with Krauthammer.


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"Yes, my impeccable logic is known to have that sort of effect. Perhaps you should take a shower, hippy."
 
2013-02-27 05:23:52 PM

CPAC specifically pointed to Christie's backing for HURRICANE RELIEF as wasteful spending that made his record less conservative.

- Ari Melber (@AriMelber) February 27, 2013

CPAC also points to Christie's Medicaid decision -- weird since that came after the decision not to invite him. nationaljournal.com/politics/the-r...

- Ari Melber (@AriMelber) February 27, 2013
 
2013-02-27 05:29:13 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: A rare moment of clarity from a man that sh*t his brains into a colostomy bag a looooooong time ago.


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"Mmmm...now, where we?"
 
2013-02-27 05:29:14 PM

ox45tallboy: [media.lehighvalleylive.com image 500x447]
"Sides are being divided now. It's very obvious. So if you're on the other side of the fence, you're suddenly anti-American. It's breeding fear of being on the wrong side."*

*Actually said by author and screenwriter Sam Shepard (The Notebook, Black Hawk Down, Safe House)


He didn't write any of those.
 
2013-02-27 06:14:12 PM

toddalmighty: ox45tallboy: [media.lehighvalleylive.com image 500x447]
"Sides are being divided now. It's very obvious. So if you're on the other side of the fence, you're suddenly anti-American. It's breeding fear of being on the wrong side."*

*Actually said by author and screenwriter Sam Shepard (The Notebook, Black Hawk Down, Safe House)

He didn't write any of those.


Well we can at least agree they would have all been better had they been written by Jean Shepherd.
 
2013-02-27 06:15:36 PM

WTF Indeed: My sources tell me it wasn't an issue of Christie's stances


The GOP has always quietly embraced those with a "wide stance".
 
2013-02-27 06:22:36 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: WTF Indeed: My sources tell me it wasn't an issue of Christie's stances

The GOP has always quietly embraced those with a "wide stance".


I was wondering how long it would take before I saw that joke.

Fark I am disappoint.
 
2013-02-27 06:26:09 PM
YES! Cast aside all Centrist and Middle-of-the-road candidates! We only want Pure Americans in our party.
Dedication to Party Ideals is more important than mass appeal.
Democracy is just a numbers game. Real 'Murkins know whats best for this country!
 
2013-02-27 06:33:41 PM
You're gonna need a bigger tent

i28.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-27 06:36:04 PM
I actually think this is intentional to make Christie look moderate and an enemay of the "extreme wing".  In this way, it sets him up as a more enticing 2016 candidate.  Christie still is the one planning the sell off of the lottery to private companies, etc. etc.  He talks nice to Obama and likes Springsteen, but you don't use that to judge policy.  Look at actions if you want to see party allegiance.

/cynical and paranoid, sure
//but just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me
 
2013-02-27 06:39:05 PM

Weaver95: ideology purity is more important than winning elections.  mindless obedience to GOP central authority is the ONLY way to take back this country and make everyone free!

so remember - don't think, just obey.  it's the only way to be free.


Krauthammer is saying winning is more important than ideology. But seriously folks, what about doing your job? Doesn't that count for anything any more? Doing his job is the crime ol fatass committed -- getting Federal disaster relief funds to people in NJ that needed it.
 
2013-02-27 06:40:31 PM

djkutch: All I know is Tony Soprano got shiat done while dealing with personal and family crises. Seems a shame for the GOP to ignore the experience of an up and comer.

/my experience with New Jersey.


Never trust a state where they have decided they are not smart enough to pump their own gas.
 
2013-02-27 06:41:55 PM
I would at this time like to suggest to Mr. Christie that he change parties.
 
2013-02-27 06:43:55 PM
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2013-02-27 06:45:16 PM
So the GOP is snubbing one of the very few actual contenders it has for the 2016 presidential election because of the things he did that made him an actual contender?

/face palm
 
2013-02-27 06:52:19 PM

ex0du5: I actually think this is intentional to make Christie look moderate and an enemay of the "extreme wing".  In this way, it sets him up as a more enticing 2016 candidate.  Christie still is the one planning the sell off of the lottery to private companies, etc. etc.  He talks nice to Obama and likes Springsteen, but you don't use that to judge policy.  Look at actions if you want to see party allegiance.

/cynical and paranoid, sure
//but just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me


No, you are correct. We should all be wary. Look at the freaks of nature they assembled for the 2012 presidential race, when the Republican puppetmasters knew that there was only one acceptable candidate...well two, actually, but the other guy was far too rational and they branded him a RINO and chased him off immediately.


I re-read this article just a few days ago, and thought about all that the Right has done in the past 7 years in hindsight, and in the context of the Overton Window thing. I believe they have absolutely been testing this theory on the masses.



Why the Right-Wing Gets It--and Why Dems Don't
 
2013-02-27 07:00:46 PM

Summoner101: So the GOP is snubbing one of the very few actual contenders it has for the 2016 presidential election because of the things he did that made him an actual contender?

/face palm


Some of them remain convinced that he gave the election to Obama by being grateful for the aid that NJ received.

In other news, they still can't face up to the numerous real reasons that they lost, starting with... wait for it... using ideological purity tests to drive out the moderates.
 
2013-02-27 07:03:07 PM

toddalmighty: He didn't write any of those.


Very true. I meant to put "actor" and screenwriter. Sorry.
 
2013-02-27 07:14:58 PM

Summoner101: So the GOP is snubbing one of the very few actual contenders it has for the 2016 presidential election because of the things he did that made him an actual contender?

/face palm


I think they're betting all their potatoes on the Waterboy

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2013-02-27 07:17:53 PM

ex0du5: I actually think this is intentional to make Christie look moderate and an enemay of the "extreme wing".  In this way, it sets him up as a more enticing 2016 candidate.


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
"Shhhh! You're blowin' it, man!"
 
2013-02-27 07:20:26 PM

Lionel Mandrake: I think they're betting all their potatoes on the Waterboy


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
"I told 'em that kid couldn't handle it. It's not like anyone watches that speech anyhow."
 
2013-02-27 07:42:33 PM

max_pooper: toddalmighty: ox45tallboy: [media.lehighvalleylive.com image 500x447]
"Sides are being divided now. It's very obvious. So if you're on the other side of the fence, you're suddenly anti-American. It's breeding fear of being on the wrong side."*

*Actually said by author and screenwriter Sam Shepard (The Notebook, Black Hawk Down, Safe House)

He didn't write any of those.

Well we can at least agree they would have all been better had they been written by Jean Shepherd.


I'm trying to envision "Black Hawk Down" embellished with lengthy reminiscences about "the Old Man."
 
2013-02-27 07:57:05 PM

CptnSpldng: I'm trying to envision "Black Hawk Down" embellished with lengthy reminiscences about "the Old Man."


www.sam-shepard.com
"It made me think back to days gone by, the reasons we all had for signing up in the first place, the idealism, the patriotism, the desire to make something of ourselves, and what that oath meant to each and every one of us, and if we were letting down that bigger oath, the one we made to ourselves, the one that really and truly mattered when you had broken all the others, and if a man could ever find those things within himself to re-take the oath he had broken, if only a little bit, and whether he could ever trust himself to keep that oath to himself ever again..."
 
2013-02-27 08:00:36 PM

cc_rider: No, you are correct. We should all be wary. Look at the freaks of nature they assembled for the 2012 presidential race, when the Republican puppetmasters knew that there was only one acceptable candidate...well two, actually, but the other guy was far too rational and they branded him a RINO and chased him off immediately.


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"Exactly. Why the f*ck did they go with the Stepford Candidate?"
 
2013-02-27 08:48:43 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Summoner101: So the GOP is snubbing one of the very few actual contenders it has for the 2016 presidential election because of the things he did that made him an actual contender?

/face palm

Some of them remain convinced that he gave the election to Obama by being grateful for the aid that NJ received.

In other news, they still can't face up to the numerous real reasons that they lost, starting with... wait for it... using ideological purity tests to drive out the moderates.


They refuse to admit that the election was a rejection of their ideology.  They want to believe it was because they didn't have a candidate who'd forcefully embrace those principles (forceable embracing is a big deal for Republicans), or because Fartbongo handed out Obama Phones, or voter fraud.  Anything to keep from admitting that they espouse beliefs most voters rejected 30 years ago.
 
2013-02-27 09:37:57 PM
Anyone who needs to know how big of an asshole Christie is, just replay last year's RNC speech where he was passionately stumping for Romney's America.

Fark that shiat.
 
2013-02-27 09:45:34 PM
FTFA: He continued: "Look, I wasn't very happy with what he did in [Hurricane] Sandy, I thought he deserves three months in quarantine. But three months is up. I'd let him out. We should have him at CPAC. We should have a wide tent and if that's what it takes to win elections in the Northeast and nationwide, let's go for it."

So basically he is pissed Christie chose doing what was best for his constituents rather than playing partisan politics out of principle, but he is willing to compromise his principles if that is what it takes to win an election.

Hell Christie is better off not associating with those idiots.
 
2013-02-27 10:04:49 PM
I thought a wide tent was what his tailor started off with when making Christie's suits.
 
2013-02-27 10:09:38 PM

heavymetal: FTFA: He continued: "Look, I wasn't very happy with what he did in [Hurricane] Sandy, I thought he deserves three months in quarantine. But three months is up. I'd let him out. We should have him at CPAC. We should have a wide tent and if that's what it takes to win elections in the Northeast and nationwide, let's go for it."

So basically he is pissed Christie chose doing what was best for his constituents rather than playing partisan politics out of principle, but he is willing to compromise his principles if that is what it takes to win an election.

Hell Christie is better off not associating with those idiots.


Or he could believe that after a national disaster there should be no Federal aid and that the population should do the recovery by their own bootstraps.
 
2013-02-27 10:23:12 PM

CptnSpldng: max_pooper: toddalmighty: ox45tallboy: [media.lehighvalleylive.com image 500x447]
"Sides are being divided now. It's very obvious. So if you're on the other side of the fence, you're suddenly anti-American. It's breeding fear of being on the wrong side."*

*Actually said by author and screenwriter Sam Shepard (The Notebook, Black Hawk Down, Safe House)

He didn't write any of those.

Well we can at least agree they would have all been better had they been written by Jean Shepherd.

I'm trying to envision "Black Hawk Down" embellished with lengthy reminiscences about "the Old Man."


During the long quiet nights before a mission when I would lie nervously awake, I would often flip through the shoe box I kept under my cot of postcards I received from the old man. They were postcards in the technical sense: rectangular prices of cardboard with a note and the address on one side and a glossy image on the other. Except my old man was to penny wise to purchase proper postcards from the Hommand Pharmacy. He would simply cut up empty cases of Old Style he brought home from bingo night at he VFW. "A penny saved is a penny earned", he would say. With this vast financial acumen, one would think he could have retired by now.
 
2013-02-27 11:08:49 PM
Why should Christie mind exactly?  If he plans to run on the national level CPAC is the kiss of death.
 
2013-02-27 11:14:40 PM

ex0du5: I actually think this is intentional to make Christie look moderate and an enemay of the "extreme wing".  In this way, it sets him up as a more enticing 2016 candidate.  Christie still is the one planning the sell off of the lottery to private companies, etc. etc.  He talks nice to Obama and likes Springsteen, but you don't use that to judge policy.  Look at actions if you want to see party allegiance.
/cynical and paranoid, sure
//but just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me



I came in here to murmur darkly about this exact same theory.
 
2013-02-27 11:15:16 PM

cc_rider: ex0du5: I actually think this is intentional to make Christie look moderate and an enemay of the "extreme wing".  In this way, it sets him up as a more enticing 2016 candidate.  Christie still is the one planning the sell off of the lottery to private companies, etc. etc.  He talks nice to Obama and likes Springsteen, but you don't use that to judge policy.  Look at actions if you want to see party allegiance.

/cynical and paranoid, sure
//but just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me

No, you are correct. We should all be wary. Look at the freaks of nature they assembled for the 2012 presidential race, when the Republican puppetmasters knew that there was only one acceptable candidate...well two, actually, but the other guy was far too rational and they branded him a RINO and chased him off immediately.
I re-read this article just a few days ago, and thought about all that the Right has done in the past 7 years in hindsight, and in the context of the Overton Window thing. I believe they have absolutely been testing this theory on the masses.

Why the Right-Wing Gets It ― and Why Dems Don't


In the spirit of a couple of recent threads in other tabs:
bestofcalvinandhobbes.com
Even a first-grader could understand the Overton Window principle almost two decades ago.
 
2013-02-27 11:39:07 PM

cc_rider: No, you are correct. We should all be wary. Look at the freaks of nature they assembled for the 2012 presidential race, when the Republican puppetmasters knew that there was only one acceptable candidate...well two, actually, but the other guy was far too rational and they branded him a RINO and chased him off immediately.


...see, now I take you even less seriously than those candidates...unless you're not talking about Ron Paul...

/Hell, who am I kidding? I'd question it even if you were talking about Huntsman.
 
2013-02-27 11:47:04 PM
No conservative considers Chuck Krauthammer a "conservative".  Always get a kick out of those who call anyone a "conservative" who doesnt look to Obama as Xenu
 
2013-02-27 11:57:06 PM

jake_lex: They refuse to admit that the election was a rejection of their ideology. They want to believe it was because they didn't have a candidate who'd forcefully embrace those principles (forceable embracing is a big deal for Republicans), or because Fartbongo handed out Obama Phones, or voter fraud. Anything to keep from admitting that they espouse beliefs most voters rejected 30 years ago.


www.mainecoastpropertiesblog.com
"Romney's conservative credentials just weren't where we thought they should be. Sure, he was conservative, but we didn't think he was quite conservative enough for us. So we voted for the liberal n****r."*


*This is what many Republicans actually believe happened
 
2013-02-28 12:09:22 AM
i1199.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-28 12:09:34 AM
How dare a conservative do anything to help out lower and middle class plebs, those leeches on the moneyed, why that is anti business and anti American!! Money before Party! Party before People!

How dare Christy give money to the people. Doesn't he know that middle and lower class plebs don't spend money that benefits business? Customers are a burden that noble business has to take on! Business can't thrive with customers with money to pay for their products, when it is given away in government assistance!  CEOs and shareholders need that money to make their penises look bigger (to their Logcabin lovers)!
 
2013-02-28 12:11:45 AM

Fista-Phobia: [i1199.photobucket.com image 429x241]


I appreciate JH's work.
 
2013-02-28 06:31:32 AM
IlGreven: cc_rider: No, you are correct. We should all be wary. Look at the freaks of nature they assembled for the 2012 presidential race, when the Republican puppetmasters knew that there was only one acceptable candidate...well two, actually, but the other guy was far too rational and they branded him a RINO and chased him off immediately.
...see, now I take you even less seriously than those candidates...unless you're not talking about Ron Paul...
/Hell, who am I kidding? I'd question it even if you were talking about Huntsman.

Of course I was talking abut Huntsman. He was the only candidate in the room who refused to play to their batshiat-crazy base. They used Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry and Newtie to fire up the Tea Party fringe, but Karl Rove and the establishment knew that none of the above would ever win enough support from moderate and independent voters. Ron Paul played the part of the nutty old uncle, whose support was greatly exaggerated by his fan club gaming the online polls. Didn't he actually admit after he dropped out of the race that he was never even running to win in the first place?

Oh well, so they knew Mitt Romney wasn't the second coming of Reagan, and he was nobody's first choice. The Mormon thing was a problem with the evangelicals, but he was rich, good looking and they figured they could sell him as a shining example of an American success story, even though Mitt was born on third base. He got the nomination by virtue of being coherent, and able to appeal to moderates and the big donors. Mitt only had to throw a few bones to the rabid base who hated Obama so much they would have voted for Hitler if he was running against him. As o45tb said, Romney was the perfect Stepford Candidate who just followed the script that was given him. Too bad for them, he came off as a privileged jerk who didn't have much crossover appeal.

Unlike Mitt, Chris Christie does have a fair amount of crossover appeal which was only bolstered after Sandy. He's been winning praise from both sides of the aisle and now he's being "punished" for being photographed with "the enemy", and daring to ask for federal dollars to help hurricane victims.
High profile liberals have been falling all over themselves praising him for essentially doing the job he was elected to do, something which would have been neither controversial nor especially praiseworthy just 10 years ago. It's pretty sad we have to praise Republicans like Huntsman or Christie simply for not being batshiat-crazy, but that is what our politics have come to. Politicians should be encouraged to stop the ridiculous petty partisanship, but as far as progressives thinking that either one would be an acceptable candidate to vote for, it's important to remember that they are both still conservatives, and if Christie ever ran for higher office, he would still be backed by the same scumbags who backed the Tea Party and later, Romney.

Republicans are desperately searching for the next candidate who will appeal not just to conservatives but to independents and Reagan Democrats, but progressives should be wary of what they're actually selling. Just because a candidate has a broader appeal, doesn't make him any less of a Trojan Horse who will be beholden to likes of the Kochs, ALEC, the US Chamber of Commerce, and Grover Norquist. Whether Christie's "exile" is just a calculated move to play to the base, time will tell. I wouldn't waste any time hating on Christie, but if he were to run in 2016, I sure as hell wouldn't consider voting for him either. Or anyone else with an (R) beside their mane.
 
2013-02-28 06:33:54 AM
"name". Need moar coffee, dammit.
 
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