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2517 clicks; posted to Geek » on 27 Feb 2013 at 6:07 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-02-27 06:26:11 PM
5 votes:
Step 1: Wait for ultimate/goty edition.
Step 2: Wait for ultimate/goty edition to drop to a reasonable price.
Step 3: Enjoy the complete game at a reasonable price.
2013-02-27 06:21:21 PM
4 votes:
No. I want a game. Not a device riddled with interaction disguised as 'fun' so you can parasitically suck me dry.

EA are truly becoming the Monsanto of the gaming world.
2013-02-27 07:38:50 PM
3 votes:
You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

You get it home and realize all you get for that is the Detroit Lions and Silverdome Classic Stadium.
If you want other teams they cost 99 cents each, but they don't come with their "away" jerseys or their kickers. Those are also 99 cents each, respectively.

You can only play exhibition mode. If you want other modes they're $1.99 each.

If you want first-string quarterbacks, you'll have to buy the Skylanders-style platform and get the quarterback figures to activate them in game. The platform is $30 and the NFL quarterback figures are $8.00 each. Some are harder to find than others.

This is the future of gaming. Enjoy your PS4.
2013-02-27 05:08:31 PM
3 votes:
I'll stick with Steam, thx. I like the way they roll.
2013-02-27 06:20:50 PM
2 votes:

unlikely: Look at how much Angry Birds Friends is making just on Facebook and then tell me why EA shouldn't be looking green with envy.


Because ABF isn't selling retail for $60?
2013-02-27 06:18:34 PM
2 votes:
If the purchases aren't required to progress, and aren't too obtrusive, this doesn't bother me much. Given that EA is involved, my confidence isn't exactly high though.
2013-02-27 05:28:29 PM
2 votes:
GreenAdder to stop purchasing EA titles.
2013-02-27 04:46:38 PM
2 votes:
Look at how much Angry Birds Friends is making just on Facebook and then tell me why EA shouldn't be looking green with envy.
2013-02-28 09:09:08 PM
1 votes:
EA and their Origin system can both choke on a bag of dicks.
2013-02-27 11:34:57 PM
1 votes:
This is why I stick with mostly indie games. At least with those I only have to pay for them once.

 Hell my hate for EA goes all the way back to their farking up Spore.
2013-02-27 11:03:33 PM
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: ReapTheChaos: You realize that Steam isn't a game publisher right? They just distribute games from all publishers, including EA.


You realize you're dead wrong about that, right?  Steam is owned by Valve, which is very much a game publisher.
kab
2013-02-27 10:44:39 PM
1 votes:

Slayinit: I grew up with dedicated consoles (e.g. Pong, Tank, Light Gun units) with my first 'real' system being the 2600. Saw the crash of '83 and cleaned up handsomely from the wreckage. Stayed with gaming up until the PS2 & Dreamcast and was ready to move on until my brother gave me a 360 about 6 years ago. I still play now & then but the idea of paying for additional game content & connectivity really turned me off.

In all, gaming has gotten too complicated. Between DLC, credit cards, micro-transactions, & the possibility of not playing used games for free, I'm pretty much done. Luckily, my kids are fairly indifferent to the console scene and play some garbage on their phones in between real kid activities. I think I'm pretty lucky to grow up when I did.

/Lawns
//Metroid!


  We're probably close to the same age.   Started being an arcade junkie as a kid, got a 2600, and went through consoles, but haven't owned one since the PS2, as PC gaming had pretty much taken most of my interest over by then.

  Watching games evolve from this sort of "here's the content, go forth and enjoy" to this "here's half the content, the rest is just a few bucks more" approach has been sad to see.   Watching the MMO genre evolve from a rough around the edges, wild west sort of situation, where players themselves created content just by their (often rather unfriendly) interactions with each other, into this boy-in-a-bubble approach where no decision is final, and no mistake reversible is equally sad to see.   Fingers can be pointed all over the place, but how it all started is irrelevant.  The idea that this approach is generally considered status quo across all platforms now is rather depressing however.  And the notion that the average gamer should somehow be grateful for it is more than a little insulting.

  This isn't some glory days rant, frankly there's always been bad games, regardless of platform.  Sometimes incredible strings of them.  But the approach taken by bigger studios, and their attitude towards customers, most certainly has changed.

  So yes, the crash of '83 (something that most folks playing games back then didn't even notice, by the way) happened.   And the industry really really needs for another one to happen soon.   Let some big players tank in spectacular fashion, let shareholders and me-too'ers run along to some other short term promised land (I hear that mobile gaming is da "future"), and some fresh blood can step in and pick up the reins.

/csb?
2013-02-27 10:29:34 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Look at how much Angry Birds Friends is making just on Facebook and then tell me why EA shouldn't be looking green with envy.


In case no one covered it, Angry  Birds didn't cost me $60 up front.
2013-02-27 09:51:50 PM
1 votes:
I grew up with dedicated consoles (e.g. Pong, Tank, Light Gun units) with my first 'real' system being the 2600. Saw the crash of '83 and cleaned up handsomely from the wreckage. Stayed with gaming up until the PS2 & Dreamcast and was ready to move on until my brother gave me a 360 about 6 years ago. I still play now & then but the idea of paying for additional game content & connectivity really turned me off.

In all, gaming has gotten too complicated. Between DLC, credit cards, micro-transactions, & the possibility of not playing used games for free, I'm pretty much done. Luckily, my kids are fairly indifferent to the console scene and play some garbage on their phones in between real kid activities. I think I'm pretty lucky to grow up when I did.

/Lawns
//Metroid!
2013-02-27 09:23:31 PM
1 votes:
What really burns my busicuts is the fact that all this "DLC" will come shipped with the disc, and you're paying to unlock it. What, you think EA is going to maintain servers with items to download indefinately?
2013-02-27 08:53:01 PM
1 votes:
I have been playing games hardcore since the 70's.  But I think p2w and free2play will be the end of it for me.  I just want to pay a set amount for a game, and play the damn thing.  Future DLC is alright but day 1 DLC is just farking greedy trying to turn a $60 game into a $80 game.

Hmm maybe I should rephrase that, the days of me paying for games will be coming to an end if this keeps up.  Remember kids, vote with yer wallets!  Thats why Borderlands 2 got almost $100 bucks out of me, they farking earned it.
2013-02-27 08:24:10 PM
1 votes:
EA lost me a while ago when they pulled out of Steam ahead of ME3 and said "we can make Steam and do it BETTER!"
2013-02-27 08:05:54 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: GreenAdder: ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.

Yeah, it's too bad EA had to rip off Games Workshop's Blood Bowl to "create" it. It's an awesome game (which should have been rebooted years ago) but they very definitely borrowed some IP for that one.


Why? Creative people steal ideas all the time. Had they not taken inspiration from the boardgame, you wouldn't have had the video game to enjoy. If the exact original IP is needed then it can be licenced, otherwise you get a mix of borrowed and new ideas.

Every idea comes from somewhere.
2013-02-27 07:42:25 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....


No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.
2013-02-27 07:27:20 PM
1 votes:
Dingleberry Dickwad:

It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play. It will most likely be like they currently do with many games where you can buy special item packs, gear, appearance changes, special uniforms, special teams, capability of trading character builds, buying special characters and so forth and so on on a larger scale than they do already.

To add detail:  It's happened before.
 http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/6/

art.penny-arcade.com
2013-02-27 07:25:21 PM
1 votes:
maybe they'll do a public item auction house like Blizzard.  that's where the real micro-transaction action is.
2013-02-27 07:19:47 PM
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: sno man: As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.

This. If the purchases enhance the game, or make it easier: fine. If the purchases are needed to play the game through to the end, then fark 'em.


The problem is the perverse incentive to make the game fun, then progressively suckier with an option to remove the suckiness for $X.

If the following statement is possible, then you should NOT support microtransactions:

EA Exec:  Hey Developer, we want you to increase the hit rate on Microtransactions from 20% to 80%.
Developer:  Well, we could perhaps improve the quality of the DLC to make it more attractive, should only take an extra 0.25 FTEs
EA Exec:  WTF?  That costs money, just increase the grind factor until the 'Bypass suck' DLC hits the 80% level.


And that is how it will work.
2013-02-27 06:59:12 PM
1 votes:
The saddest thing? The EA of old was so optimistic.
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2013-02-27 06:55:51 PM
1 votes:

error 303: They do this because people will pay. We've no one to blame but ourselves.


Speak for yourself.

I'll never give them another penny of my money.

They may still sell copies, but they'll sell at least one less than they would have if they didn't shiat all over their customers every chance they got.
2013-02-27 06:51:07 PM
1 votes:
What gets me is when companies remove content with the intention of making them micro-transactions, rather than letting the transactions exist for convenience.
2013-02-27 06:25:56 PM
1 votes:
For those wondering, yes, Dead Space 3 has micro-transactions. However... they don't do anything that you can't "earn" in-game. Don't waste your money.

Aside from that? Honestly, DS3 was actually kind of a let-down. I was hoping for another horror/survival game, where medkits and ammo were scarce, instead we got a game where you can become a tank early on by maxing out your armor, health and carry a full pack of ammo and medkits 20 minutes into the game. The shock and suspense of the series is no longer present, and it just seems kinda predictable. Also, far too easy, even playing the first playthrough on Hard.
2013-02-27 06:20:54 PM
1 votes:
Chris Roberts and Star Citizen are the best hope for rescuing gaming from the D-bags that have taken over the industry.
Let a crowd funded game stick it up EA's Originhole.
2013-02-27 06:19:33 PM
1 votes:
dammit, knew I shoulda hit preview.

www.consoleclassix.com
2013-02-27 06:16:20 PM
1 votes:
Well, glad I swore to never buy another EA product after Mass Effect 3.
2013-02-27 06:02:44 PM
1 votes:
Right above this is an article stating that a lot of people like being in abusive relationships....
2013-02-27 05:29:08 PM
1 votes:

GreenAdder: GreenAdder to stop purchasing EA titles.


Wait. Then again, I don't think I have in a couple years, unless you count a couple used Genesis games. Skitchin' FTW.
2013-02-27 05:15:14 PM
1 votes:
It's not always appropriate, but sometimes it works. But EA will probably find a way to f*ck it up. The only thing they do right is Soccer. Oh, and they published mirror's edge. Other than that, 2K took most their milkshake a looooooooooong time ago.
2013-02-27 05:06:55 PM
1 votes:
As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.
 
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