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2013-02-27 07:02:46 PM  
Yeah, I'm sure no one saw this coming from a mile away. They've been doing the same shiat with weapon, armor and appearance add on packs as well as actual playable content for years. DA2, ME2, ME3, and I'm sure even more of their titles all had that shiat. The difference is now they're outright saying "We're greedy assholes, you know it, and you'll still pay us. Suckers!" Hell most of the time the gear packs are something that you can find or at least get the equivalent of in game already, they're just pandering to the lazy suckers that don't feel like going through the hassle of working hard to get the good shiat.
 
2013-02-27 07:09:59 PM  

sno man: As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.


No.  That just leads to crappy games.  I farking hate playing a game only to be interrupted "Oh you want to do this?  $2 please"   It's especially nice when it's some guy asking you to help him save his family from a rampaging rabid boar, but wants me to 'pay' first.

Part of the problem is I hate being presented with pieces of the game, and having to constantly engage the 'Purchase decision' portion of my brain when I just want to play the damned game.  I have no misconceptions that this type of thing works, because people play games and decide they 'WANT' long before they are confronted with the pay screen.  What I'm saying is that such a practice turns games into nothing but advertising treadmills.
 
2013-02-27 07:12:25 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Yeah, I'm sure no one saw this coming from a mile away. They've been doing the same shiat with weapon, armor and appearance add on packs as well as actual playable content for years. DA2, ME2, ME3, and I'm sure even more of their titles all had that shiat. The difference is now they're outright saying "We're greedy assholes, you know it, and you'll still pay us. Suckers!" Hell most of the time the gear packs are something that you can find or at least get the equivalent of in game already, they're just pandering to the lazy suckers that don't feel like going through the hassle of working hard to get the good shiat.


I honestly don't see how they can make it worse than the new Madden games. The microtransaction lists for the newest games is a mile long.
 
2013-02-27 07:13:13 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Dingleberry Dickwad: Yeah, I'm sure no one saw this coming from a mile away. They've been doing the same shiat with weapon, armor and appearance add on packs as well as actual playable content for years. DA2, ME2, ME3, and I'm sure even more of their titles all had that shiat. The difference is now they're outright saying "We're greedy assholes, you know it, and you'll still pay us. Suckers!" Hell most of the time the gear packs are something that you can find or at least get the equivalent of in game already, they're just pandering to the lazy suckers that don't feel like going through the hassle of working hard to get the good shiat.

I honestly don't see how they can make it worse than the new Madden games. The microtransaction lists for the newest games are a mile long.


FTFM
 
2013-02-27 07:15:07 PM  

kim jong-un: sno man: As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.

No.  That just leads to crappy games.  I farking hate playing a game only to be interrupted "Oh you want to do this?  $2 please"   It's especially nice when it's some guy asking you to help him save his family from a rampaging rabid boar, but wants me to 'pay' first.

Part of the problem is I hate being presented with pieces of the game, and having to constantly engage the 'Purchase decision' portion of my brain when I just want to play the damned game.  I have no misconceptions that this type of thing works, because people play games and decide they 'WANT' long before they are confronted with the pay screen.  What I'm saying is that such a practice turns games into nothing but advertising treadmills.


It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play. It will most likely be like they currently do with many games where you can buy special item packs, gear, appearance changes, special uniforms, special teams, capability of trading character builds, buying special characters and so forth and so on on a larger scale than they do already.
 
2013-02-27 07:15:14 PM  
They ruined battlefield 3 for me. Will not purchase anything from them.Bad Company 2 and Simcity 4 are good enough for me.
 
2013-02-27 07:15:46 PM  
eff EA in the ay.  i havent bought anything of theirs in 6 years and only played a copy of ME2 I borrowed from a friend and I played it offline on my xbox.  they dont get money from me ever again.
 
2013-02-27 07:19:08 PM  

sno man: As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.


To further that point, will the purchases be necessary for single-player, or is it limited to multiplayer?  Because it would be incomprehensible to require purchasing items to complete a single-player game.  "You need The Magical Do-dad Of Doom to complete Chapter 3, but it's not in the game proper, it's in the Origin on-line store" should be a lawsuit-worthy offense.
 
2013-02-27 07:19:47 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: sno man: As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.

This. If the purchases enhance the game, or make it easier: fine. If the purchases are needed to play the game through to the end, then fark 'em.


The problem is the perverse incentive to make the game fun, then progressively suckier with an option to remove the suckiness for $X.

If the following statement is possible, then you should NOT support microtransactions:

EA Exec:  Hey Developer, we want you to increase the hit rate on Microtransactions from 20% to 80%.
Developer:  Well, we could perhaps improve the quality of the DLC to make it more attractive, should only take an extra 0.25 FTEs
EA Exec:  WTF?  That costs money, just increase the grind factor until the 'Bypass suck' DLC hits the 80% level.


And that is how it will work.
 
2013-02-27 07:23:54 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: kim jong-un: sno man: As long as you don't have to make these purchases to play, even if it takes longer without, carry on.

No.  That just leads to crappy games.  I farking hate playing a game only to be interrupted "Oh you want to do this?  $2 please"   It's especially nice when it's some guy asking you to help him save his family from a rampaging rabid boar, but wants me to 'pay' first.

Part of the problem is I hate being presented with pieces of the game, and having to constantly engage the 'Purchase decision' portion of my brain when I just want to play the damned game.  I have no misconceptions that this type of thing works, because people play games and decide they 'WANT' long before they are confronted with the pay screen.  What I'm saying is that such a practice turns games into nothing but advertising treadmills.

It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play. It will most likely be like they currently do with many games where you can buy special item packs, gear, appearance changes, special uniforms, special teams, capability of trading character builds, buying special characters and so forth and so on on a larger scale than they do already.


I agree with you that it isn't likely to interrupt gameplay, but 'free' money is addictive as hell, and there is going to be a STRONG incentive to push people to those packs.  The instant those packs tweaks gameplay in a non-cosmetic manner it's going to be very hard to keep the MBAs from pushing those from 'flavor items' to 'really the only way to have fun in multiplayer' items.
 
2013-02-27 07:25:21 PM  
maybe they'll do a public item auction house like Blizzard.  that's where the real micro-transaction action is.
 
2013-02-27 07:27:20 PM  
Dingleberry Dickwad:

It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play. It will most likely be like they currently do with many games where you can buy special item packs, gear, appearance changes, special uniforms, special teams, capability of trading character builds, buying special characters and so forth and so on on a larger scale than they do already.

To add detail:  It's happened before.
 http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/6/

art.penny-arcade.com
 
2013-02-27 07:31:08 PM  
Sim City* comes out on Tuesday. What are the odds that micro-transactions will be needed to make in-game purchases of items normally included in the other Sim City games?
 
2013-02-27 07:38:04 PM  

kim jong-un: Dingleberry Dickwad:

It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play. It will most likely be like they currently do with many games where you can buy special item packs, gear, appearance changes, special uniforms, special teams, capability of trading character builds, buying special characters and so forth and so on on a larger scale than they do already.

To add detail:  It's happened before.
 http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/6/

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]


Holy crap I had completely forgotten about that one. Yeah, that was a pretty bad move. I don't remember them doing that for DA2 though did they? Either way, EA is extremely unlikely to be getting any more of my money.
 
2013-02-27 07:38:50 PM  
You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

You get it home and realize all you get for that is the Detroit Lions and Silverdome Classic Stadium.
If you want other teams they cost 99 cents each, but they don't come with their "away" jerseys or their kickers. Those are also 99 cents each, respectively.

You can only play exhibition mode. If you want other modes they're $1.99 each.

If you want first-string quarterbacks, you'll have to buy the Skylanders-style platform and get the quarterback figures to activate them in game. The platform is $30 and the NFL quarterback figures are $8.00 each. Some are harder to find than others.

This is the future of gaming. Enjoy your PS4.
 
kab
2013-02-27 07:41:07 PM  
"And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."

Wrong, you dumb fark.   Your shareholders enjoy and embrace it.  Anyone else with a clue is staying as far away from your shiatty titles as possible.
 
2013-02-27 07:42:25 PM  

ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....


No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.
 
2013-02-27 07:43:55 PM  

King Something: Sim City* comes out on Tuesday. What are the odds that micro-transactions will be needed to make in-game purchases of items normally included in the other Sim City games?


This time it's just upfront cosmetic stuff, like London, Berlin, Paris themes and some ridiculous super hero DLC.

Just let me build arcos again.
 
2013-02-27 07:45:18 PM  

GreenAdder: ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.


Yeah, it's too bad EA had to rip off Games Workshop's Blood Bowl to "create" it. It's an awesome game (which should have been rebooted years ago) but they very definitely borrowed some IP for that one.
 
2013-02-27 07:47:23 PM  
By the by, is there any other good city simulator out there?
 
2013-02-27 07:56:25 PM  

GreenAdder: ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.


If they start making Mutant League Football/Hockey again, I'd be installing Origin this second.  Until that day, not a chance.
 
2013-02-27 08:03:18 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Either way, EA is extremely unlikely to be getting any more of my money.


Heh, isn't that the truth?  For me, the entire debate is academic since I've been annoyed by EA too many times to consider buying games from them anymore.  I'm sure I'll do it by accident again, but the instant I see the EA logo I'm reminded of my own personal reservations against that company.  The odd thing, is I can't even point to a single reason why I dislike them so much, it's just a concept of a miasma that surrounds them which turns my stomach.  Unlike companies like Sony, who have taken active steps which I find 'evil', EA seems to just do things that make me say, "Man, that really brings gaming down a notch, I'd prefer they not do that."

1.  Extreme franchising, and exclusivity.  (I'm certain that other companies could do NFL games with some interesting twists. Instead we get roster updates)
2.  Whatever the hell that social network fake steam thing was/is.  They automatically created a profile for me, and opted me in to something I never wanted to sign up for.
3.  Turning off old games.  (was that EA?  My mind associates them with that)
4.  DLC pushing and online registration codes
5.  The general lowest common denominator style of game design once they purchase a game.  That's why the first of a series (developed outside EA) is often very different than the games produced post purchase.

They are kind of like Zynga to me.  Sure they produce games, and aren't exactly hiding what they are doing, but damned if they don't do it in the most annoying manner.  (Zynga can DIAF though given how they basically wait for a good idea then copy the shiat out of it)
 
2013-02-27 08:04:37 PM  
I for one cant wait to pirate the latest and greatest SimCity game.
 
2013-02-27 08:05:54 PM  

ZeroCorpse: GreenAdder: ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.

Yeah, it's too bad EA had to rip off Games Workshop's Blood Bowl to "create" it. It's an awesome game (which should have been rebooted years ago) but they very definitely borrowed some IP for that one.


Why? Creative people steal ideas all the time. Had they not taken inspiration from the boardgame, you wouldn't have had the video game to enjoy. If the exact original IP is needed then it can be licenced, otherwise you get a mix of borrowed and new ideas.

Every idea comes from somewhere.
 
2013-02-27 08:09:59 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Yeah, it's too bad EA had to rip off Games Workshop's Blood Bowl to "create" it. It's an awesome game (which should have been rebooted years ago) but they very definitely borrowed some IP for that one.


I just want you to realize that Games Workshop is so evil that its owners aren't even going to hell, because the devil himself is afraid of the competition. You ask me to choose between EA and GW, and I'll choose Gaben.
 
2013-02-27 08:19:27 PM  

meat0918: By the by, is there any other good city simulator out there?


The CitiesXL series is a pretty good alternative, if horribly programmed. Being able to explore your cities in full 3D makes it easy to overlook any flaws with the game design.

The one I'm looking forward to is Cities in Motion 2 though. The first one should be a controlled substance, and it was entirely focused around designing a transit system. This one looks to throw in an entire city simulator into the mix!

Link
 
2013-02-27 08:24:10 PM  
EA lost me a while ago when they pulled out of Steam ahead of ME3 and said "we can make Steam and do it BETTER!"
 
2013-02-27 08:30:08 PM  
I don't mind making micro-transactions, as long as the game is good and it is of a good value. Example: because I was really enjoying the game, I bought a Lamborghini in Need for Speed World. While it did give me a slight advantage, you could unlock plenty of high end cars for free and I still lost plenty of times to such drivers. I also have a soft spot for Lambos, which helped to seal the deal.

An example where I didn't spend real money was in Tribes Ascend. I could not get the hang of the default gun, and thus I was not enjoying the game. To get guns to better suit my play style, I could spend real money or grind until I was bored to tears. Sorry, but if I'm not having fun with the free version of your game, I'm not going to give you money in hopes that afterwards I will be able to have fun.

Despite using EA in the first example, I have little hope that they will consistently produce titles with fair micro-transactions. Even in NFSW, to select consumable items to help win races required you to use real money, otherwise you got them randomly after matches - usually the ones which you needed the least, obviously.
 
2013-02-27 08:32:05 PM  
I'll just continue pirating older RTSs and not care.

And I have all the NES/SNES/Wii games on a hard drive just for my Wii to access.
 
2013-02-27 08:39:38 PM  

GreenAdder: ZeroCorpse: You buy Madden 2015 for $60....

No, I don't. I play "Mutant League Football" on the Genesis - back from when EA gave a crap. Incidentally it's one of the few football games I care for.


YES and YES. Hell the only thing hockey related that I have ever enjoyed was Mutant League Hockey. Those games were amazing.
 
2013-02-27 08:39:58 PM  
I've noticed this trend in gaming and I it has not pleased me.  I was looking forward to Command and Conquer generals 2 until I read that it was free to play.  Initially they said it wouldn't have a campaign mode (this was changed) and they claimed the free to play meant more flexibility, listening to the community so on.  I really think that translates as something like "We are going to release an incomplete game and based on the clamoring of the masses we will then release other parts of the game which we will price gouge on."

I predict the following:  The game will have one faction at the start, you have to purchase the other 2 and then purchase their campaigns separately.  Map packs will be sold and players will not be able to make or share their own maps.  I will not play the game and just content myself with older games.

/not a psychic but I am very cynical especially about the future of RTS games.
//wishes that RA3 uprising had been designed to play online.
///If I have to go back to playing strategy board games I will.  To hell with EA and their ilk if that is what I wind up doing.
 
2013-02-27 08:46:10 PM  

kim jong-un: Dingleberry Dickwad: Either way, EA is extremely unlikely to be getting any more of my money.

Heh, isn't that the truth?  For me, the entire debate is academic since I've been annoyed by EA too many times to consider buying games from them anymore.  I'm sure I'll do it by accident again, but the instant I see the EA logo I'm reminded of my own personal reservations against that company.  The odd thing, is I can't even point to a single reason why I dislike them so much, it's just a concept of a miasma that surrounds them which turns my stomach.  Unlike companies like Sony, who have taken active steps which I find 'evil', EA seems to just do things that make me say, "Man, that really brings gaming down a notch, I'd prefer they not do that."

1.  Extreme franchising, and exclusivity.  (I'm certain that other companies could do NFL games with some interesting twists. Instead we get roster updates)
2.  Whatever the hell that social network fake steam thing was/is.  They automatically created a profile for me, and opted me in to something I never wanted to sign up for.
3.  Turning off old games.  (was that EA?  My mind associates them with that)
4.  DLC pushing and online registration codes
5.  The general lowest common denominator style of game design once they purchase a game.  That's why the first of a series (developed outside EA) is often very different than the games produced post purchase.

They are kind of like Zynga to me.  Sure they produce games, and aren't exactly hiding what they are doing, but damned if they don't do it in the most annoying manner.  (Zynga can DIAF though given how they basically wait for a good idea then copy the shiat out of it)


CSB, because I changed ISPs I wanted to update my email account with Origin, since my old one was cancelled. I'm on the webpage, and while I can update most of my personal info, I need to go through their customer service to update my email...

So while logged into my Origin account, I enter an IM session with an "EA rep." For confirmation, he asks me the last few digits of my credit card. The card they had on file had expired months ago, so of course I didn't have it. I was able to tell him when it expired though.

Apparently, that was not good enough. So he wanted to know the serial number of games I had registered with EA. I'm like WTF?!? Even if I did register any games, I don't remember doing so. I mention I might have registered SimCity4, but it was many years ago now. Apparently I did, but as I said, he needs the serial number, and I couldn't find the disc.

Keeping in mind that I was also logged in to the account I was trying to change, he then tells me to call their UK office. Apparently I was unable to satisfy the requirements needed to  change an email address! Hell, I've been able to update personal banking information by giving less accurate information to the phone rep, and I would not be logged into any kind of account. I'm also going to assume that the guy flunked geography and/or was from a remote part of the planet, because at the beginning of the conversation I told him I was in Canada, yet he still gives me an overseas number.

/TL;DR, because EA is too cheap to hire CS reps with an IQ above room temperature, I won't be buying any games from Origin. Not because I dislike the service, but because I will be unable to receive an emailed receipt because they won't let me update my address with them
 
2013-02-27 08:53:01 PM  
I have been playing games hardcore since the 70's.  But I think p2w and free2play will be the end of it for me.  I just want to pay a set amount for a game, and play the damn thing.  Future DLC is alright but day 1 DLC is just farking greedy trying to turn a $60 game into a $80 game.

Hmm maybe I should rephrase that, the days of me paying for games will be coming to an end if this keeps up.  Remember kids, vote with yer wallets!  Thats why Borderlands 2 got almost $100 bucks out of me, they farking earned it.
 
2013-02-27 08:53:27 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play.


I was about to go off on you about this because they did it in Dragon Age. But, I see you already recognized the mistake.

That moment was the first blow against my trust in Bioware, and I had been a Bioware fanboy for a while before that.
 
2013-02-27 08:55:12 PM  

gopher321: I'll stick with Steam, thx. I like the way they roll.


You realize that Steam isn't a game publisher right? They just distribute games from all publishers, including EA.
 
2013-02-27 08:57:45 PM  
FTFA:
"Aside from the reaction this may elicit from gamers, there's the added issue of infrastructure that EA has had to consider. Jorgensen went on to explain that the company is now planning to bring all the processes surrounding payments and card-handling in-house to try and increase security. "

Grammar, how does it work?
 
2013-02-27 08:59:10 PM  

jack21221: Dingleberry Dickwad: It's not likely to be like that at all. EA has been shiat for a while now, but I don't think even they'd be stupid enough to make the micro-transactions stuff interrupt game play.

I was about to go off on you about this because they did it in Dragon Age. But, I see you already recognized the mistake.

That moment was the first blow against my trust in Bioware, and I had been a Bioware fanboy for a while before that.


Yup.  The day 1 DLC with Shale started a really precipitous decline (highlighted in a couple other areas of DA:O as well).  Oh well - I still have my copy of Jade Empire (which I find has aged far better than KOTOR ... and is right up there with ME as far as replay value).
 
2013-02-27 09:02:20 PM  

orclover: I have been playing games hardcore since the 70's.  But I think p2w and free2play will be the end of it for me.  I just want to pay a set amount for a game, and play the damn thing.  Future DLC is alright but day 1 DLC is just farking greedy trying to turn a $60 game into a $80 game.

Hmm maybe I should rephrase that, the days of me paying for games will be coming to an end if this keeps up.  Remember kids, vote with yer wallets!  Thats why Borderlands 2 got almost $100 bucks out of me, they farking earned it.


Interesting note, Gearbox pulled the A:CM Season Pass yesterday.  The fans voted with their wallets on that one and Pitchford lost.
 
2013-02-27 09:12:54 PM  

Flappyhead: Interesting note, Gearbox pulled the A:CM Season Pass yesterday. The fans voted with their wallets on that one and Pitchford lost.


Research.  Check around, heed the warning signs.  So far its saved me from A:CM, Dragon Age 2 and ME 3 and many others.
 
2013-02-27 09:21:35 PM  

GreenAdder: Milo1974: My God skitchin' I have waited 20 years for that game sequel, I'm going to have to dig that out now

You have good taste in video games. Have a month of TotalFark.


I see what you did there...thank you very much, anybody from xbox live or playstation put that on their download network peace
 
2013-02-27 09:23:31 PM  
What really burns my busicuts is the fact that all this "DLC" will come shipped with the disc, and you're paying to unlock it. What, you think EA is going to maintain servers with items to download indefinately?
 
2013-02-27 09:31:31 PM  

ParadoxDice: What really burns my busicuts is the fact that all this "DLC" will come shipped with the disc, and you're paying to unlock it. What, you think EA is going to maintain servers with items to download indefinately?


To be fair, EA just gave away all of the DLC equipment for DA2 before they killed the servers.

/Enjoyed DA:O, especially once I installed about 25 mods.  Enjoyed DA:A more since it was shorter.
//Haven't heard good things about DA2.
 
2013-02-27 09:36:25 PM  
I've been gaming since the 80s, started with The Bard's Tale and haven't really stopped since.  I just can't seem to get as riled up about this subject as many of my peers.  It's video games, the epitome of first world problems, I just can't get passionate about it.  If I like what they're offering they get my money, if not they don't.

Then again I game on both a PC and console, liked both DA:O and DA2, and thought the ME3 ending wasn't that bad.  That alone seems to be put me in some weird minority.
 
2013-02-27 09:48:51 PM  
A Battlefield 4 scene ...

USA Engineer hits Russian tank ...

Guy in Russian Tank: (Spams "Need Repairs" shout)
Russian Engineer: "Don't have $1.29 welding torch unlock"

USA Engineer is out of rockets, spams "Need Ammo"
USA Grunt: "Don't have ammo pack unlock, $.99"
USA Engineer spams "fire on my target;" receives message "ERROR: Target locator not purchased. Unlock for $.99 more!"
USA Engineer is injured by Russian Engineer's shots.
USA Grunt: "Not carrying $1.50 medic pack either"

USA Jet sees burning Russian Tank. Fires. Damages, but does not destroy.
Russian Engineer fires shoulder SAM he bought for $1.50.
USA Jet can't fire flares ($2 on Origin)
USA Jet explodes, killing pilot.
USA Pilot receives message: "Want to respawn faster? $.99 for deluxe spawning"
Russian Engineer receives message: "Want that kill to be counted accurately in Origin stats? $.99 only this weekend!"

USA Sniper has Russian Engineer in scope sights. Loses track of target with "Want a new ghillie suit? $2 in Origin store!" pop-up message.
 
2013-02-27 09:51:50 PM  
I grew up with dedicated consoles (e.g. Pong, Tank, Light Gun units) with my first 'real' system being the 2600. Saw the crash of '83 and cleaned up handsomely from the wreckage. Stayed with gaming up until the PS2 & Dreamcast and was ready to move on until my brother gave me a 360 about 6 years ago. I still play now & then but the idea of paying for additional game content & connectivity really turned me off.

In all, gaming has gotten too complicated. Between DLC, credit cards, micro-transactions, & the possibility of not playing used games for free, I'm pretty much done. Luckily, my kids are fairly indifferent to the console scene and play some garbage on their phones in between real kid activities. I think I'm pretty lucky to grow up when I did.

/Lawns
//Metroid!
 
2013-02-27 09:59:17 PM  

Yuri Futanari: I've been gaming since the 80s, started with The Bard's Tale and haven't really stopped since.  I just can't seem to get as riled up about this subject as many of my peers.  It's video games, the epitome of first world problems, I just can't get passionate about it.  If I like what they're offering they get my money, if not they don't.

Then again I game on both a PC and console, liked both DA:O and DA2, and thought the ME3 ending wasn't that bad.  That alone seems to be put me in some weird minority.


So you can't get passionate about what you spend your entertainment budget on, and you have questionable taste. Got it.

I look at things this way, if I'm going to be spending $40-60 on a video game that's going to take days to weeks to complete it had damned better be well spent, I don't enjoy wasting my hard earned money on something that I'll enjoy for a short time and never again. DA:O wasn't bad, I've gotten some replay out of that trying different combinations of characters. DA2 was bad and it felt like not only had I wasted my money, but that Bioware had wasted theirs as well with the constantly reused map, severely limited story area, and the fact that none of the choices I made were important when it came to the end of the game. ME3 was at least great up until the end where it seemed like the writers threw away everything from the previous games and hired some shiatty fanfic author that wasn't familiar with the story so far to wrap things up. It's also why I didn't waste my time with Borderlands 2. I kept hearing what a great game the first one was I picked it up and was sadly disappointed. It was a basic shooter that had memorable characters and some funny dialogue, but was lacking in replay value. Of course it wasn't until after that I found out that everyone was raving about the multiplayer function of the game, and I despise multiplayer.
 
2013-02-27 10:11:45 PM  

meyerkev: ParadoxDice: What really burns my busicuts is the fact that all this "DLC" will come shipped with the disc, and you're paying to unlock it. What, you think EA is going to maintain servers with items to download indefinately?

To be fair, EA just gave away all of the DLC equipment for DA2 before they killed the servers.

/Enjoyed DA:O, especially once I installed about 25 mods.  Enjoyed DA:A more since it was shorter.
//Haven't heard good things about DA2.


I wasn't aware of that. I wonder, now that the servers are killed, can I get the DLC? (I haven't played DA2 in a while.)

I'm trying to decide if I should bother with Dead Space 3, as apparently they did this. There's a cheat that gets you all the DLC without buying it. That means it was all on the disc in the first place.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/02/08/dead-space-3-exploits - video-games-cheats-in-the-age-of-micro-transactions/">http://www.forb es.com/sites/erikkain/2013/02/08/dead-space-3-exploits- video-games-cheats-in-the-age-of-micro-transactions/
 
2013-02-27 10:16:35 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Yuri Futanari: There hasn't been a good game made in decades.  Companies used to know how to do it, they weren't evil soulless husks who churn out mass produced flavor of the month crap for the idiot kids today to gobble up by the truckload.  Back in my day, games were games, intricate tapestries of storytelling and interactivity and were of such quality that can't even be compared to today.  Even the Mt. Dew tasted better.

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Mike_LowELL unsure if someone is kidding, serious, or trolling is the most ironic thing of my day.
 
2013-02-27 10:19:14 PM  

jonny_q: Mike_LowELL: Yuri Futanari: There hasn't been a good game made in decades.  Companies used to know how to do it, they weren't evil soulless husks who churn out mass produced flavor of the month crap for the idiot kids today to gobble up by the truckload.  Back in my day, games were games, intricate tapestries of storytelling and interactivity and were of such quality that can't even be compared to today.  Even the Mt. Dew tasted better.

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Mike_LowELL unsure if someone is kidding, serious, or trolling is the most ironic thing of my day.


Not only that, but he's unsure if someone is trolling, serious or joking when they're saying games today suck. That's like dividing by zero.
 
2013-02-27 10:21:06 PM  
There's a link in the article that has EA's reponse, and they say the "exploit" is fine, and they want/are okay with people to grind for the stuff.

I'm not sure how much of that I buy, though. If it were a feature, it would have been sold to us as such. "You can grind for these items, OR you can unlock them early!"
 
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