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(IT World)   Now that Marissa Mayer has eliminated telecommuting at Yahoo, can phone shanties be far behind?   (itworld.com) divider line 33
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2013-02-27 09:32:02 AM
I heh-ed.
Heh.
 
2013-02-27 09:34:30 AM
How about catheters for long-duration desk sitting?

/When I worked for Gannett, we had to wear catheters.
 
2013-02-27 09:40:06 AM
So with the "no telecommuting" rule, that means once you leave the office, you're not expected to perform any work for the company?

Yeah, I didn't think so.
 
2013-02-27 09:44:13 AM
Article Headline: Marissa Mayer takes Yahoo back to the... past
 She's gonna take you back to the past....


lh6.ggpht.com
 
2013-02-27 09:48:06 AM
I've been working from home for 14 years.  It takes a bunch of discipline, it took me about six weeks to not wander outside and work in the yard, or into my shop to screw around on a project.

But, like people have said in other threads, the work-at-home horse has already left the barn.
 
2013-02-27 09:53:54 AM

Marcus Aurelius: So with the "no telecommuting" rule, that means once you leave the office, you're not expected to perform any work for the company?

Yeah, I didn't think so.


I used to work for a "We highly encourage you to sync your personal smartphone with our exchange server and to place your personal cell phone number in your email signature, but will in no way subsidize your personal cell phone bill" company.  That's farking cheap.
 
2013-02-27 09:54:01 AM
I don't think my wife & kids would let me work from home. I'd have to install a bomb-shelter-like office in the basement with "Beware of tiger" signs on the door.
 
2013-02-27 10:00:39 AM

TheSelphie: Article Headline: Marissa Mayer takes Yahoo back to the... past
 She's gonna take you back to the past....


[lh6.ggpht.com image 480x360]


To be fair, Yahoo games are shiatty and suck ass.
 
2013-02-27 10:07:01 AM
One job I worked at required a secure environment.  Phones were left outside the room on some shelves.  Only one computer had outside internet where you could do your time sheet and read your email (in a room of about 30 people).

God help you if you brought your phone in.  Basically, anything that had the ability to hook up to a USB port was forbidden, as well as burnt CD's.
 
2013-02-27 10:12:50 AM
Hack Patooey:
But, like people have said in other threads, the work-at-home horse has already left the barn.

Ditto "casual Friday"
 
2013-02-27 10:14:47 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how she thought that eliminating WFH would be good for morale.
 
2013-02-27 10:17:41 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm still trying to figure out how she thought that eliminating WFH would be good for morale.


I don't think morale was a consideration.
 
2013-02-27 10:21:09 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm still trying to figure out how she thought that eliminating WFH would be good for morale.


Because they should all be able to have private nurseries built at work for their kids like she did.
 
2013-02-27 10:25:41 AM
It's part of the "let's make work really comfortable so you'll want to spend 70 hours a week there just existing" move.

The problem is that the teleworkers who are doing useful stuff for Yahoo will likely be able to find another job (because I'm sure there's going to be other austerity-inspired cuts, like to vacation, to health insurance, etc.) and the useless folks will just be useless at the office.
 
2013-02-27 10:29:00 AM
She's gonna take you back to the past
To work the shiatty jobs that suck ass.
She'd rather have a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in her ear
She'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkill skunk and down it with beer
She's the angriest exec you'd ever heard
She's the Angry Executive Turd
She's the Angry Google Yahoo Turd
She's the Angry CEO Turd
 
2013-02-27 10:52:45 AM
Yahoo is a mess.  I can't blame her for pulling everyone back in house.  Telecommuting works when there's clear direction, metrics, and deliverables...otherwise you end up with people collecting a paycheck while working a 2nd job.  It wouldn't surprise me that they relaxed this after a year or so.
 
2013-02-27 10:57:01 AM

pudding7: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm still trying to figure out how she thought that eliminating WFH would be good for morale.

I don't think morale was a consideration.


In fact, this might be a really good way to do a voluntary downsizing without having to pay a dime of unemployment.
 
2013-02-27 11:01:01 AM

CheatCommando: pudding7: Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm still trying to figure out how she thought that eliminating WFH would be good for morale.

I don't think morale was a consideration.

In fact, this might be a really good way to do a voluntary downsizing without having to pay a dime of unemployment.


Winner.  This has nothing to do with telecommuting.  Mayer is a very smart, and is saving Yahoo a bundle of money.
 
2013-02-27 11:27:58 AM
Anyone who thinks they are 'saving' money by giving morale a big kick in the nuts is a bigger idiot.

I've worked at those companies. A significant kick in the ass to employee motivation is worse than a layoff.
 
2013-02-27 11:44:59 AM
Maybe once the company stops collectively sucking ass, then they can earn their work from home privileges back.  Hey entitled Yahoo! programmer, that includes you too!  Let's face it.  If the current policy was working, they wouldn't be changing it.
 
2013-02-27 11:46:28 AM
Yahoo, that's the one that I use Alta Vista to search for my email.

/Not obscure
 
2013-02-27 11:56:28 AM
Congrats on completely ruining Yahoo Mail, Marissa. Ya dumb biatch.
 
2013-02-27 12:04:07 PM
So, which Admin's buddy works for Yahoo and was until recently loafing at home and claiming a paycheck?

/3 ah ah ah, 3 or 4 or 5 stories now about Yahoo's 'must be working at work to get paid' policy, ah ah ah
 
2013-02-27 12:47:26 PM

BumpInTheNight: So, which Admin's buddy works for Yahoo and was until recently loafing at home and claiming a paycheck?

/3 ah ah ah, 3 or 4 or 5 stories now about Yahoo's 'must be working at work to get paid' policy, ah ah ah


It's just one of those things that you know is going to backfire and they will have to backtrack on the policy. This is the anticipation of that...

"Hey, sorry guys... we heard you loud and clear. We're rescinding the global no WFH policy and will implement on a case-by-case basis. Normally we wouldn't backtrack like this, but we're so young, vibrant and dynamic that we find it easy to make policy changes based on our CEO's hormonal fits and lack of sex, which has nothing to do with her awful, awful laugh that probably contributes to the suicide rate."
 
2013-02-27 01:19:01 PM
If Google and Ms were smart, they'd start actively recruiting these WFH Yahoo folks, and promise them a similar arrangement.
 
2013-02-27 01:37:46 PM

kanesays: Congrats on completely ruining Yahoo Mail, Marissa. Ya dumb biatch.


I'm pretty sure Yahoo Mail sucked long before she joined the company.

/would have a higher opinion of Yahoo Mail if IMAP access worked reliably
 
2013-02-27 02:04:58 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: If Google and Ms were smart, they'd start actively recruiting these WFH Yahoo folks, and promise them a similar arrangement.


Google isn't exactly supportive about working from home.

Google believes working at home, or "teleworking", is not the best environment for ideas to flourish, according to its chief financial officer Patrick Pichette.
It's a startling opinion from one of the leaders of the company that made email universally available and encouraged businesses to adopt "<a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/"> Google Apps" so employees could work anytime, anywhere.
"The surprising question we get is: 'How many people telecommute at Google?' " Mr Pichette said at a talk in Sydney on Monday. "And our answer is: 'As few as possible'.


http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/business-it/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-g oo glers-dont-telecommute-20130219-2eo8w.html
 
2013-02-27 02:21:56 PM

tricycleracer: Marcus Aurelius: So with the "no telecommuting" rule, that means once you leave the office, you're not expected to perform any work for the company?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I used to work for a "We highly encourage you to sync your personal smartphone with our exchange server and to place your personal cell phone number in your email signature, but will in no way subsidize your personal cell phone bill" company.  That's farking cheap.


I put my cell number in my email, but then, i don't answer calls i don't recognize...i figure if they leave me a message saying 'zOMG Asmodeus224, that stuff you loaded to the server is totally wrong!' i might want to know that, and return the call...but if i get a 'Heeeeyyyyy, big guy, Asmodeus224, we need some help on this project this weekend that you had nothing to do with until now, can you go ahead and come on in?' well then, I might not have heard that message as my cellphone battery was malfunctioning.
 
2013-02-27 07:29:21 PM
The butthurt stings most on he who never wears pants.
 
2013-02-27 09:16:59 PM
I would really like to fark some sense into her. Am I the only one?
 
2013-02-28 05:08:26 PM
This reminds me of the time when a big software project I was working on kept getting delayed, and the client was really pissed.  The solution:  move all the people on the project into a big room working at row and row of tables.  People weren't allowed to leave for lunch or dinner, and food was brought in.  The work day was a mandatory 12 hours, 7 days a week.  This arrangement allowed the client to see that we had LOTS of people WORKING all of the TIME, and in a way that did not admit that the project schedule was fantasy.

In Yahoo's case, their problem is they have no strategy, no way to compete, or even no reason to exist anymore.  The solution:  kill working from home.

If Yahoo thinks stopping employees working from home is going to solve their problems they're in worse shape than everyone already imagines.
 
2013-03-01 12:39:03 AM
Soooo, telecommuting is no longer working?  Surely that means all those outsourced overseas jobs will be coming back.
 
2013-03-01 05:50:12 AM
I think a ban was over the top but there is a problem at Yahoo and not necessarily because people aren't doing their job.  working at home silos you off and while you do your one task well you don't get to see what everyone else is really doing.  This stifles collaboration and innovation.  I don't think the ban will last too long but it could be a new thing where everyone is in the office for a 3 month block as some sort of middle ground between in office and at home work.
 
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