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2013-02-27 08:02:20 AM
MAD Magazine died in 1992 with Bill Gaines.

CSB: I have a letter and personalized cartoon from Don Martin
 
2013-02-27 09:44:03 AM
As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.
 
2013-02-27 09:44:11 AM

Spanky McStupid: MAD Magazine died in 1992 with Bill Gaines when they started running actual ads.


Of course, it doesn't help that most of the Usual Gang of Idiots are gone, now. Dave Berg was always a favorite.
 
2013-02-27 09:46:43 AM
I got a subscription (hey, it was like $5 from...some online magazine subscription site).  Certainly not as good as its heyday, and there's a good bit of retreading of their older stuff, but a guy in his early 40s is probably not their target market anymore.
 
2013-02-27 09:47:50 AM
Smellson!  That's funny because you smell!!!
 
2013-02-27 09:59:08 AM
MAD Magazine is always ragging on the Spiro Agnew guy.  He must work there.
 
2013-02-27 09:59:24 AM

BronyMedic: As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.


so . . . who was it aimed at before?  I was interested in it and Cracked when i was in Middle School/Junior High.  Not so much in high school and college. (20odd years ago)

\\ no not snappy
\ sorry.
 
2013-02-27 10:04:36 AM

escherblacksmith: BronyMedic: As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.

so . . . who was it aimed at before?  I was interested in it and Cracked when i was in Middle School/Junior High.  Not so much in high school and college. (20odd years ago)

\\ no not snappy
\ sorry.


Can I stand around on your lawn?
 
2013-02-27 10:06:32 AM

CarnySaur: Smellson!  That's funny because you smell!!!


Writer 1: Why don't we call it "Everybody Hates Raymond"

Writer 2: Well we stayed up all night, but it was worth it.
 
2013-02-27 10:18:13 AM

BronyMedic: As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.


What's funny. The crappy MAD show ON Cartoon Network is  a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents. And it's so farking lazy.Say what you will about mix-ups, rip-offs, and dick jokes, at least Robot Chicken puts some effort into it.
 
2013-02-27 10:18:30 AM

LucklessWonder: escherblacksmith: BronyMedic: As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.

so . . . who was it aimed at before?  I was interested in it and Cracked when i was in Middle School/Junior High.  Not so much in high school and college. (20odd years ago)

\\ no not snappy
\ sorry.

Can I stand around on your lawn?



yes, but don't touch the onions.

\\ whippersnapper
 
2013-02-27 10:19:58 AM
Of course now would be the time that to admit that I have the Absolutely Mad dvd with every issue(including the specials) for 53 years.
 
2013-02-27 10:50:32 AM
So, uh, I rtfa and I don't see what they consider to be the 50 worst cartoons. I see a slighty more attractive redneck family, but that's about it.
 
2013-02-27 10:51:59 AM

Scyllz: So, uh, I rtfa and I don't see what they consider to be the 50 worst cartoons. I see a slighty more attractive redneck family, but that's about it.


I think it was an article about a Mad feature that makes up awful cartoons....
 
2013-02-27 10:58:41 AM

oldernell: Of course now would be the time that to admit that I have the Absolutely Mad dvd with every issue(including the specials) for 53 years.


I thought that set was going to be awesome, but the UI sucked so bad.  DId you ever read Completely Mad?  Awesome book with stories about the old timey crew and how nuts Gaines was.
 
2013-02-27 11:00:39 AM

FeedTheCollapse: Scyllz: So, uh, I rtfa and I don't see what they consider to be the 50 worst cartoons. I see a slighty more attractive redneck family, but that's about it.

I think it was an article about a Mad feature that makes up awful cartoons....


SUBBY IS A FARKING LIAR!
 
2013-02-27 11:17:25 AM

Electric_Banana: DId you ever read Completely Mad?


I will check it out.  I agree the interface is a little difficult, but the disc is still cool enough to fight through it.
 
2013-02-27 11:19:30 AM

PacManDreaming: Spanky McStupid: MAD Magazine died in 1992 with Bill Gaines when they started running actual ads.

Of course, it doesn't help that most of the Usual Gang of Idiots are gone, now. Dave Berg was always a favorite.


That didn't happen until several years after Gaines died.  Meglin and Ficcarra fought Time Warner on that point until they couldn't anymore.

DeBartolo and Aragones are about the only truly active Idiots left.  Jaffee is MAD's version of Abe Vigoda and is still kicking, but he doesn't produce nearly as much as he used to.
 
2013-02-27 11:46:31 AM

Bloody William: BronyMedic: As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.

What's funny. The crappy MAD show ON Cartoon Network is  a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents. And it's so farking lazy.Say what you will about mix-ups, rip-offs, and dick jokes, at least Robot Chicken puts some effort into it.


Robot Chicken? It's all farting and retards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_B-vn1hKJM

probably NSFW
 
2013-02-27 12:06:55 PM

Another Government Employee: DeBartolo and Aragones are about the only truly active Idiots left.


I have met Sergio Aragones on a few occasions. The man can take an ultra-fine point Sharpie and sketch an entire page of a comic book in about 15 seconds. He's unreal.
 
2013-02-27 12:09:06 PM

PacManDreaming: Dave Berg was always a favorite.


If you enjoy masturbating to drawings of shapely women in clothing from 1963, like I did when I was 12.
 
2013-02-27 12:24:17 PM
Hermann Mejia is the only good thing about MAD Magazine these days.
 
2013-02-27 12:43:28 PM
My 11 year old seems to enjoy this, but it's pretty toothless stuff with the occasional oversexualized joke.

Like Seth at the Oscars.
 
2013-02-27 12:44:26 PM
Also, did Al Jaffee blow Abe Vigoda? Can't believe he's still alive, never mind still pushing a pencil.
 
2013-02-27 12:49:58 PM

Valiente: Also, did Al Jaffee blow Abe Vigoda? Can't believe he's still alive, never mind still pushing a pencil.


I always wondered if he minded Bill Engvall ripping off Snappy Answers?
 
2013-02-27 01:20:05 PM

Spanky McStupid: CSB: I have a letter and personalized cartoon from Don Martin


"Dear Spanky: PFOOLUBTHUBTHUBTHUB FWEET FWEEET zzzzzzzzZZZZIKK. Your friend, Don."
 
2013-02-27 01:37:36 PM
"Shathley has a doctorate in literary and cultural theory."

And yet this article is a confusing mess of junior-high ruminations and non-sequiturs!

Here's an actual thing: http://www.madmagazine.com/tags/50-worst-things-about-cartoons

/can't spell "Shathley" without "shat"
 
2013-02-27 01:48:55 PM
Potrzebie
 
2013-02-27 02:20:32 PM

Electric_Banana: oldernell: Of course now would be the time that to admit that I have the Absolutely Mad dvd with every issue(including the specials) for 53 years.

I thought that set was going to be awesome, but the UI sucked so bad.  DId you ever read Completely Mad?  Awesome book with stories about the old timey crew and how nuts Gaines was.


Was that book that told the story of how they all went to Haiti to visit their one subscriber to find out why he didn't renew?  Or how they got a park ranger to sneak them up to the torch in the Statue of Liberty and William M Gaines was to fat to fit?

If so great book.
 
2013-02-27 02:24:33 PM
I started to read that article and wandered away when the writer decided to go into how he can't pay attention because the winter storms were discussed.

That was a real strange way to open an interview piece.
 
2013-02-27 03:12:36 PM

under a mountain: Electric_Banana: oldernell: Of course now would be the time that to admit that I have the Absolutely Mad dvd with every issue(including the specials) for 53 years.

I thought that set was going to be awesome, but the UI sucked so bad.  DId you ever read Completely Mad?  Awesome book with stories about the old timey crew and how nuts Gaines was.

Was that book that told the story of how they all went to Haiti to visit their one subscriber to find out why he didn't renew?  Or how they got a park ranger to sneak them up to the torch in the Statue of Liberty and William M Gaines was to fat to fit?

If so great book.


Yes.  Love that story about Gaines in the SOL.  Another great one was how they used to go out to dinner and order one of everything from the menu and just all eat from it like a buffet.
 
2013-02-27 04:24:09 PM

Spanky McStupid: MAD Magazine died in 1992 with Bill Gaines.

CSB: I have a letter and personalized cartoon from Don Martin


Actually, MAD died long before that, around 1981 I think. It became nothing but a tired old formula of lame satirical versions of ancient songs from 1956 (what kid in the early 80's is gonna know the music to a song like "Get Me To The Church On Time"???), George Woodbridge being more annoying than funny, and Dave Berg showing that he's never left his den since 1974. Things really took a nosedive when Don Martian said "F*CK DIS SH*T!" and jumped over to Cracked for the rest of his career/life.

IMO, Crazy magazine (published by Marvel) was the good satirical magazine of the time.

i341.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-27 04:28:54 PM
And yes kids, Crazy's mascot "Obnoxio The Clown" is Marvel canon.

i286.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-27 05:07:42 PM
The article reviews the 50 Worst Things About ... Cartoons. It isn't a list of individual cartoons that are bad or cartoon strips that are bad. This feature is a series and as mentioned above, they have done various subjects. You will probably live to see a 50 Worst Things About the GOP.

I've been a reader of MAD since I was a kid. I have the CD collection and even before the CD was a twinkle in the eyes of of a media company executive hoping to sell the whole world every album the Beatles ever produced, plus all of the crap left over on the cutting room floor, so to speak, there were reprints of everything MAD ever produced in the magazine, in seasonal collections, in books, and in mini-comics bound in the magazine. I thus saw a lot of the original series of comic book format MAD.

MAD magazine has never been as good as the original 23 issue run in comic book format. Those first couple of years were great.

But MAD has mutated slowly over years, decades, and generations, and it is still one of the best rags on the stand, even if you may have changed.

Rule one:  Everything is fresh when it is new and good. But even the best things cloy after time, so it's not the magazine, the writers or the art that has changed, it is you. Just as people become deaf to background noise, blind to their children's misbehaviour and faults, and unable to smell their own stink, people become so used to running gags, they cease to be funny. Then they become funny again. Then they cease to be funny. Then they become funny again. Then this goes on so farking long you want to kill the Family Guy, his family and his dog and stuff them down the smug c***sucking throat of Seth McFarlane and possibly his colleagues, except for that adorable little Jewish leprecaun, Seth Green.

Rule two: you have changed, man. You've turned into your Mother or Father or possibly a bit of both.

Rule three: Some people lose interest in the loves of their childhood or youth, and become adults. This process is known in medical circles as "a long slow death". I, for one, have lamented many declines in the standards of MAD, many changes I didn't like or which bored me, and the aging of some of their best artists and work. But never mind. Generations come and go but I am still at heart the same child I was when I was 13. Mind you, when I was thirteen I felt like a middle-aged man in a child's body. I may be exceptional and nothing to judge normal humans by. In other word's the intended audience of MAD magazine, namely middle-aged men with the minds of 13 year olds and 13 year olds with the cynicism of middle aged men. It's a theory. One of the many, many patented Brantgoose Theories. Like the famous joke about two Jews marooned on a desert island, I have a tendency to build at least three Synagogues for every god. There has to be a good synagogue, a bad synagogue, and a synagogue you can't afford to attend. Otherwise you can't get together a minyan at any of them. Oy! mazel tov fershlugginer potzrebie schmuck!

Three rules is enough. Comedy rule of three!
 
2013-02-27 05:10:05 PM
Am I wise? You betcha! Am I foolish? To be sure! Am I humble? If you're more humble than me, as the French say, YOU DIE!
 
2013-02-27 05:44:10 PM

Valiente: My 11 year old seems to enjoy this, but it's pretty toothless stuff with the occasional oversexualized joke.

Like Seth at the Oscars.


MAD was always at its best when they went for the jugular.  Example

lh4.ggpht.com

Yeah I'll probably get dinged for that, don't care.
 
2013-02-27 06:48:01 PM

Flappyhead: Valiente: My 11 year old seems to enjoy this, but it's pretty toothless stuff with the occasional oversexualized joke.

Like Seth at the Oscars.

MAD was always at its best when they went for the jugular.  Example

[lh4.ggpht.com image 487x318]

Yeah I'll probably get dinged for that, don't care.


I have been looking for this for YEARS!

Al Jaffee's finest moment.
 
2013-02-27 06:49:03 PM

Electric_Banana: MAD Magazine is always ragging on the Spiro Agnew guy.  He must work there.


yes, what an amazing reference.
 
2013-02-27 09:49:33 PM
...attempts to talk about the 50 worst cartoons while a shiatty writer daydreams about overwrought storm metaphors, more like.
 
2013-02-28 03:45:07 AM
So this is just a long winded article about how the writer talked to MAD's editor about the upcoming issue that lists the 50 worst.... wow, way to go, subby.  I do believe you perfected finding the story about nothing and getting it greenlit.  Hats off to you!
 
2013-02-28 10:55:15 PM
meandering farticle not worth much, Flappyhead & brantgoose make thread completely worthwhile.
 
2013-02-28 11:11:03 PM

Bloody William: BronyMedic: As a reminder, for the last 4 years MAD Magazine has been sold targeted to the young to middle-teens demographic, and has been turned into a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents.

They sold out, man.

What's funny. The crappy MAD show ON Cartoon Network is  a lighter version of Robot Chicken that wont offend the helicopter parents. And it's so farking lazy.Say what you will about mix-ups, rip-offs, and dick jokes, at least Robot Chicken puts some effort into it.


Mad TV died when Alex Borstein left. She was one of the main writers.

/probably not the same show but it had to be said
 
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