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2013-02-27 10:48:09 AM  
Not that this is the *same* Robin.

I expect a month or two of wacky Lazarus Pit hijinx, given whose grandson this is. Do they honestly think Talia and Ra's will let this last very long?
 
2013-02-27 10:48:13 AM  
Right now there's a woman out there who's crying because at the last convention she got shot down by Burt Ward and had to settle for Jay North.
 
2013-02-27 10:53:45 AM  
Did the last Robin die when Burt Ward ate him?
 
2013-02-27 10:53:48 AM  
Who is Robin now? Last I saw, it was Damian Wayne.
 
2013-02-27 10:54:25 AM  
Why is Burt Ward, who played Dick Grayson in a television show nearly 50 years ago, commenting about the plot direction for Damien Wayne in a comic book?

But this was pretty good.
 
2013-02-27 10:56:15 AM  
Grant Morrison brought Damien back into continuity, and now he's taking him out of it again?  Fitting.

Assuming it's Damien.  I'm very behind.
 
2013-02-27 10:56:35 AM  
You THINK they are going with the Lazarus Pit, but then, in a shocking swerve, a deal with the Devil resurrects the clone. And then we have two Damiens running around.
 
2013-02-27 10:58:45 AM  

Solty Dog: Who is Robin now? Last I saw, it was Damian Wayne.


Yeah... and honestly, I'm glad they are killing him, insufferable twat...

I like the Robin concept and I liked most of the former Robins (with the exception of Jason Todd), but Damian has been an awful Robin...
 
2013-02-27 11:00:15 AM  

Fano: You THINK they are going with the Lazarus Pit, but then, in a shocking swerve, a deal with the Devil resurrects the clone. And then we have two Damiens running around.


No, no, no.  The Damien that's dying ends up BEING the clone.  Surely, fans would love a plot twist like that.
 
2013-02-27 11:03:02 AM  

DarkPascual: Solty Dog: Who is Robin now? Last I saw, it was Damian Wayne.

Yeah... and honestly, I'm glad they are killing him, insufferable twat...

I like the Robin concept and I liked most of the former Robins (with the exception of Jason Todd), but Damian has been an awful Robin...


I don't know. I was all for throwing Damian in a chipper shredder during Battle for the Cowl, but he's kind of grown on me.

Still prefer Tim back in the shorts, though. Not really feeling him as Red Robin.
 
2013-02-27 11:11:15 AM  
Do we really need a spoiler alert for comic books?  Do people still read comic books?  I wasn't aware that was still a thing.
 
2013-02-27 11:14:48 AM  
So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.
 
2013-02-27 11:15:55 AM  

zomega: DarkPascual: Solty Dog: Who is Robin now? Last I saw, it was Damian Wayne.

Yeah... and honestly, I'm glad they are killing him, insufferable twat...

I like the Robin concept and I liked most of the former Robins (with the exception of Jason Todd), but Damian has been an awful Robin...

I don't know. I was all for throwing Damian in a chipper shredder during Battle for the Cowl, but he's kind of grown on me.

Still prefer Tim back in the shorts, though. Not really feeling him as Red Robin.


I really hoped to Tim's tenure as Red Robin turned him into a character as good (IMO) as Nightwing, but... meh... its OK...

I guess that is the thing that defines the New 52 to me... is meh overall. I had so much hope for books like Superman, Red Lantern and New Guardians and it has been all so... underwhelming.

Not awful, not horrible, but nothing that really justifies to me the need to reboot their Universe (besides profits).

Honestly, if there is someone that I would love to see back on the Robin mantle, is Stephanie Brown...

/Gonna re-read the One Year Later Blue Beetle series...
 
2013-02-27 11:17:30 AM  
Baby on board....something something....
 
2013-02-27 11:19:33 AM  
I find it funny that people consistently comment saying things like "[d]o people still read comic books?" in a world where we 3-5 big new comic book movies are released every year and are making money hand over fist.  While the original medium may not be as popular as the films, they're definitely still around and helping to feed the apparent hunger for superhero movies.
 
2013-02-27 11:21:10 AM  

alaric1224: I find it funny that people consistently comment saying things like "[d]o people still read comic books?" in a world where we 3-5 big new comic book movies are released every year and are making money hand over fist.  While the original medium may not be as popular as the films, they're definitely still around and helping to feed the apparent hunger for superhero movies.


Well, you have to look cool somehow...
 
2013-02-27 11:21:20 AM  
Grant Morrison, this, Grant Morrison that! I don't care if Grant Morrison sucks sheep shiat through a crazy straw!


/obscure?
 
2013-02-27 11:21:59 AM  
With all of the indications that Kingdom Come might come true throughout the DC Universe, I'll be surprised if Damian stays dead.  Otherwise, who is  Ib'n al Xu'ffasch?
 
2013-02-27 11:22:37 AM  
The thing with Damien Wayne is not that he is Robin but he is the potential future Batman.
Killing him off seems so short sighted and if they use the Lazarus Pit on him, there's goes any future super heroing unless he joins Justice League Dark.
 
2013-02-27 11:26:05 AM  

BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.


Morrison isn't writing Batman and Robin anymore, but he still writes Batman Inc.
 
2013-02-27 11:31:58 AM  

BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.


Yes, Batman and Robin is considered in continuity with DC's other New 52 titles.
 
2013-02-27 11:34:09 AM  

Hebalo: BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.

Morrison isn't writing Batman and Robin anymore, but he still writes Batman Inc.


I get that.  Just at an editorial level it seems weird to not have Robin's death be in his own comic.  Likewise as a reader that would be pretty jarring if the B&R comic is still running.  "O hey, welcome to the new issue.  Robin is dead."
 
2013-02-27 11:34:13 AM  

Fano: You THINK they are going with the Lazarus Pit, but then, in a shocking swerve, a deal with the Devil resurrects the clone. And then we have two Damiens running around.


First, there already are two Damiens running around. One who is Robin, one who was grown in a whale and is called the Heretic. The Heretic killed Robin by stabbing him through the chest.

They can't use a Lazarus Pit because they've all since run dry, hence why Ra'as had to try to steal Damien's body a few years back to stay alive.

The issue was pretty good, but I'll miss the little guy.
 
2013-02-27 11:34:27 AM  

Pyynk: BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.

Yes, Batman and Robin is considered in continuity with DC's other New 52 titles.


And having re-read your question, I realized that I sound like a loon. I thought you were asking if Batman and Robin / Batman, Inc. were considered in continuity.

/it's too late to feel this early.
//where's my coffee, damn it?
 
2013-02-27 11:35:50 AM  

Pyynk: Pyynk: BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.

Yes, Batman and Robin is considered in continuity with DC's other New 52 titles.

And having re-read your question, I realized that I sound like a loon. I thought you were asking if Batman and Robin / Batman, Inc. were considered in continuity.

/it's too late to feel this early.
//where's my coffee, damn it?


That's ok.  I'm on cup two and have just started mentally preparing myself for the next round of code.
 
2013-02-27 11:38:24 AM  

alaric1224: I find it funny that people consistently comment saying things like "[d]o people still read comic books?" in a world where we 3-5 big new comic book movies are released every year and are making money hand over fist.  While the original medium may not be as popular as the films, they're definitely still around and helping to feed the apparent hunger for superhero movies.


Also, they don't seem to realize that humans make 'new people' everyday. Sure, comics have seemingly grown up with our generation (dark and gritty and all that) but they still make lighter versions of the characters and comics for the younger audience.
 
2013-02-27 11:38:46 AM  

BafflerMeal: Hebalo: BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.

Morrison isn't writing Batman and Robin anymore, but he still writes Batman Inc.

I get that.  Just at an editorial level it seems weird to not have Robin's death be in his own comic.  Likewise as a reader that would be pretty jarring if the B&R comic is still running.  "O hey, welcome to the new issue.  Robin is dead."


Batman Inc is Damien's main book, not Batman and Robin. Batman and Robin is all fluff with no long term story arcs, while Batman Inc is entirely about Damien and the strife between his parents due to him.
 
2013-02-27 11:39:29 AM  

Decillion: Also, they don't seem to realize that humans make 'new people' everyday. Sure, comics have seemingly grown up with our generation (dark and gritty and all that) but they still make lighter versions of the characters and comics for the younger audience.


DC doesn't. They had a single kid appropriate book and they cancelled it.
 
2013-02-27 11:41:38 AM  

PonceAlyosha: BafflerMeal: Hebalo: BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.

Morrison isn't writing Batman and Robin anymore, but he still writes Batman Inc.

I get that.  Just at an editorial level it seems weird to not have Robin's death be in his own comic.  Likewise as a reader that would be pretty jarring if the B&R comic is still running.  "O hey, welcome to the new issue.  Robin is dead."

Batman Inc is Damien's main book, not Batman and Robin. Batman and Robin is all fluff with no long term story arcs, while Batman Inc is entirely about Damien and the strife between his parents due to him.


Ah.  Ok.  I guess that makes sense.  My attention was starting to wayne after all the court of owls story mess, and i just couldn't stomach reading another batcomic.  Wasn't aware of the focus of that title.
 
2013-02-27 11:53:24 AM  
 
2013-02-27 12:02:33 PM  

DarkPascual: I guess that is the thing that defines the New 52 to me... is meh overall. I had so much hope for books like Superman, Red Lantern and New Guardians and it has been all so... underwhelming.


I like most of the New 52. Snyder's run on the main Batman title has been amazing, and Demon Knights might be the best new book DC put out in years, though it has gone a little downhill with the writer change.
 
2013-02-27 12:03:50 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Decillion: Also, they don't seem to realize that humans make 'new people' everyday. Sure, comics have seemingly grown up with our generation (dark and gritty and all that) but they still make lighter versions of the characters and comics for the younger audience.

DC doesn't. They had a single kid appropriate book and they cancelled it.


I'd argue that Young Justice is kid friendly as well, but it does seem incredibly short sighted to cancel Superman Family.
 
2013-02-27 12:14:08 PM  

alaric1224: With all of the indications that Kingdom Come might come true throughout the DC Universe, I'll be surprised if Damian stays dead.  Otherwise, who is  Ib'n al Xu'ffasch?


No, Kingdom Come wont happen to DC. It was always Elseworlds, and has been regulated to its own alternate Universe.

Besides- Maxwell Lord killed Magog, thus wiping out that future.
 
2013-02-27 12:23:40 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: alaric1224: With all of the indications that Kingdom Come might come true throughout the DC Universe, I'll be surprised if Damian stays dead.  Otherwise, who is  Ib'n al Xu'ffasch?

No, Kingdom Come wont happen to DC. It was always Elseworlds, and has been regulated to its own alternate Universe.

Besides- Maxwell Lord killed Magog, thus wiping out that future.


Is that event still in continuity?
 
2013-02-27 12:31:05 PM  

LucklessWonder: Darth_Lukecash: alaric1224: With all of the indications that Kingdom Come might come true throughout the DC Universe, I'll be surprised if Damian stays dead.  Otherwise, who is  Ib'n al Xu'ffasch?

No, Kingdom Come wont happen to DC. It was always Elseworlds, and has been regulated to its own alternate Universe.

Besides- Maxwell Lord killed Magog, thus wiping out that future.

Is that event still in continuity?


There is no continuity in the New 52, just editorial fiats that have been stapled together.
 
2013-02-27 12:56:46 PM  

PonceAlyosha: LucklessWonder: Darth_Lukecash: alaric1224: With all of the indications that Kingdom Come might come true throughout the DC Universe, I'll be surprised if Damian stays dead.  Otherwise, who is  Ib'n al Xu'ffasch?

No, Kingdom Come wont happen to DC. It was always Elseworlds, and has been regulated to its own alternate Universe.

Besides- Maxwell Lord killed Magog, thus wiping out that future.

Is that event still in continuity?

There is no continuity in the New 52, just editorial fiats that have been stapled together.


That's an insult to staples, IMHO.
 
2013-02-27 12:59:34 PM  
fark Grant Morrison.  Him and Joe Quesada should be fired.

From a cannon.

Into the Sun.
 
2013-02-27 01:00:07 PM  
FTA: Nevertheless, Burt adds, "Every youngster realizes that he or she is too young to drive and they are not big like Batman. So, they all yearn to be Robin who gets to RIDE WITH BATMAN AND FIGHT WITH BATMAN!"


Yeah, just like when I knew I was too young to be a professional baseball player, I yearned to be the batboy.
 
2013-02-27 01:09:25 PM  

ManateeGag: fark Grant Morrison.  Him and Joe Quesada should be fired.

From a cannon.

Into the Sun.


I disagree vociferously about Morrison, but you may be happy to learn he is leaving monthly comics in three months.
 
2013-02-27 01:28:54 PM  
I liked the way Damian developed while Dick was Batman. After Bruce came back, it seemed the father/son dynamic didn't really work.

I doubt the death will be permanent - this is comic books, after all - but I am disappointed to see Damian go. He was an interesting take on Robin, and definitely much better as an anti-hero Robin than Jason Todd ever was.
 
2013-02-27 01:42:22 PM  
From TFA:

"Ward tells us, "It's a terrible choice to kill off Robin. Why bite the hand that feeds you? ... Robin should only die in people's imaginations! Or in a state of primal ecstasy!"

Agreed. Well put, mon frere!


/made me lol a bit
 
2013-02-27 01:44:46 PM  
"Robin should only die in people's imaginations! Or in a state of primal ecstasy!"

WTF
 
2013-02-27 01:47:47 PM  

Sasquach: Baby on board....something something....


Burt ward

Hey, this thing practically writes itself.
 
2013-02-27 02:06:12 PM  

PonceAlyosha: ManateeGag: fark Grant Morrison.  Him and Joe Quesada should be fired.

From a cannon.

Into the Sun.

I disagree vociferously about Morrison, but you may be happy to learn he is leaving monthly comics in three months.


there is a God!
 
2013-02-27 02:27:26 PM  
So let me see if I've got the whole path of Jason Todd correct:

Good Robin
Bad Robin
Dead
Alive- it's a trick! Just Clayface.
Still dead
Alive- Reality Punch
Bad
Bad-Good
Bad
Good

What am I missing? Besides fresh air and sunlight.
 
2013-02-27 02:27:52 PM  

PonceAlyosha: I disagree vociferously about Morrison, but you may be happy to learn he is leaving monthly comics in three months.


Morrison has one more DC Project before he leaves called Multiversity where it will be a Seven Solders type thing set in different Multiverses.

You should listen to Kevin Smith's interview with him over at Fatman on Batman. Pretty interesting and he talks about taking many drugs during the time he was writing JLA. But in a odd twist he was straight edge when he wrote Doom Patrol.

As for Batman Inc. Yes its cannon but the only comic to fully embrace the Morrison Batman is Batman and Robin. Detective Comics seems to be going for the Nolan view. While Synder's Batman leans Morrison but not all the way

So any bets who will be the new Robin? Im betting on Squire from Knight and Squire  Seems like Morrison has been prepping her to be Batmans sidekick since way way back in the JLA days. And now that Knight is { SPOILER}

Loving this arc on Batman inc.
 
2013-02-27 02:39:31 PM  

ItchyMcDoogle: Morrison has one more DC Project before he leaves called Multiversity where it will be a Seven Solders type thing set in different Multiverses.


Not a monthly title, that's a miniseries.
 
2013-02-27 02:59:13 PM  

BafflerMeal: Hebalo: BafflerMeal: So is Batman and Robin still running from the new 52?  I wonder why they're killing off Robin in a different comic than his 'home'.

Morrison isn't writing Batman and Robin anymore, but he still writes Batman Inc.

I get that.  Just at an editorial level it seems weird to not have Robin's death be in his own comic.  Likewise as a reader that would be pretty jarring if the B&R comic is still running.  "O hey, welcome to the new issue.  Robin is dead."


Y'know, I just recently got into comics, and there are entirely too many series, and they do a really crappy job of telling you which ones are out there.  Seriously: Batman, Batman Inc, Batman and Robin, Detective Comics, Batman: The Dark Knight.  And that's just the Batman ones...

Jesus fark, you're going to put in enough crossovers to make me read them all anyhow.  Just give me a monthly subscription to everything DC and I'll read it all in whatever order it gets delivered to my iPad.
 
2013-02-27 03:05:44 PM  
DC and Marvel are determined to ressurect the notion that comic book readers are all mentally eight years old.

/And nobody take that bait, someone already filled the quota for that in this thread.
 
2013-02-27 03:28:44 PM  
I'm hoping they bring in Stephanie Brown or Terry McGinness into continuity to be the new Robin, or just give it back to Tim, as the current Teen Titans thing ain't working.
 
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