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2013-02-27 12:39:53 PM

doubled99: yeah, the majority of days that don't have a "name"  you have ALL of those really, that's just how it works in a white straight dominated culture.


Oh my god, it is!

Most societies do tend to be dominated by the majority. Shocking.


the fact is the complaint was "we don't have a day"
the wonders of this culture as some minorities DO get a day,  One cant be upset that you don't have a special day when all of the rest are yours by default

don't be a prat, you cant have both without looking like a petulant child
 
2013-02-27 12:41:02 PM

Twigz221: Random Anonymous Blackmail: jack21221

Schools really need to lighten up. They had to have known that this was a legal minefield. Just let the student peacefully protest that day and get on with it.

Agreed, but also the spoiled snowflakes start stomping their feet and kicking up dust when they are not getting the attention they think they deserve. It sounds a lot like "no one is paying attention to me" PAY ATTENTION TO ME I'M A LESBIAN AND I DESERVE BETTER RIGHTS THAN YOU. THE SAME RIGHTS THAT YOU HAVE.

I blame the parents.

Fixed that for you.


Really?  Show me where hetero kids are allowed to engage in silent protests in that school district.
 
2013-02-27 12:43:09 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Might as well take the entire day off for Gay Day, because no teaching is going to happen.


You say that as though teaching was going to happen.
 
2013-02-27 12:43:47 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: xanadian: FTFA: An openly lesbian student on Tuesday sued her high school in Florida after she was suspended for participating in an anti-bullying event.

Awwww...look how cute the li'l lesbian is, thinking her "rights" matter. She's all growed up now!

I refer you to "Bong Hits 4 Jesus v. Alaska," sweetheart...

Wow, I'm surprised at you but yeah I can completely see the similarities in supporting what can be construed as an illegal and anti-bullying.


I'm just saying that there's already precedent for stomping on free speech rights for teens, no matter if it's for a good cause or not.

navylostboy: /hate that argument (better rights)


It's "better rights" because THOSE PEOPLE aren't really "people," so we're doing them a great service by giving them "better rights" that we GOOD and NORMAL people take for granted.
 
2013-02-27 12:44:53 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Twigz221: Random Anonymous Blackmail: jack21221

Schools really need to lighten up. They had to have known that this was a legal minefield. Just let the student peacefully protest that day and get on with it.

Agreed, but also the spoiled snowflakes start stomping their feet and kicking up dust when they are not getting the attention they think they deserve. It sounds a lot like "no one is paying attention to me" PAY ATTENTION TO ME I'M A LESBIAN AND I DESERVE BETTER RIGHTS THAN YOU. THE SAME RIGHTS THAT YOU HAVE.

I blame the parents.

Fixed that for you.

Really?  Show me where hetero kids are allowed to engage in silent protests in that school district.


Dude, this is fark.... some are more equal than others
 
2013-02-27 12:45:09 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Oh, so you're building a straw-man.Have fun with that.


Better than building a mystery.

...
 
2013-02-27 12:46:40 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: GranoblasticMan: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'd like to ask a question. What do you consider examples of what you said here, "STOP with the overboard posturing. Stop throwing it in people faces, stop with the attention whoring, and stop being over the top with the pride" ?

You know... It's okay if you're gay, as long as I don't know about it. "Don't ask don't tell" never hurt anybody, right?

That's what I hear.


So the two of you are saying that being gay means being BOLD and HEY LOOK AT ME IM GAY!

I'm not talking about telling effeminate men to stop acting effeminate, i'm not talking about lesbians growing out their buzz cuts either... I'm talking about having the community recognize that there are extremists in their community that makes the community look bad in the public eye.

Look at it from the exact opposite... I know there are plenty of people who are religious, who are accepting of the gay community on a personal level, but it's the extremists that are the ones on TV and making the news on the anti-gay subject, and the rational ones don't do enough to put the extremists down, so that extreme view is the only one people think about
 
2013-02-27 12:48:13 PM

CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,


Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?  Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.
 
2013-02-27 12:48:31 PM

CeroX: And i KNOW the lgbt community have plenty of rallies that attempt to show people that there are people out there who aren't over the top, they get out there in normal clothes and hold up banners, but there are still, for lack of a better term, deviants out there who go to the extreme to make people uncomfortable and then demand that they act like nothing is wrong...


Well, I was surprised when you left out the parades earlier. Well you know what you don't get it. The pride parades aren't really about the politics those are for all the "deviants", even the ones that "attempt" not to be over the top. It's to celebrate the diversity and to show our own numbers and have fun.The politics takes place everyday.
 
2013-02-27 12:49:22 PM
This is far less of a story than last year's Fark hate crime hoax in Nebraska.  Do better next time.
 
2013-02-27 12:53:55 PM

CeroX: I'm not talking about telling effeminate men to stop acting effeminate, i'm not talking about lesbians growing out their buzz cuts either... I'm talking about having the community recognize that there are extremists in their community that makes the community look bad in the public eye.


You realize that this "extremism" you're complaining about doesn't actually hurt you, right?  Affects you not at all?  That it's all just words and symbolic actions that have nothing to do with you?

What is it with people who insist on asserting the right to control other people?  Why does it even register on your radar screen?  So what if some flamer waved a symbolic pink dong around?  He's TROLLING you.  Get it?
 
2013-02-27 12:54:32 PM
yeah, the majority of days that don't have a "name"  you have ALL of those really, that's just how it works in a white straight dominated culture.


Oh my god, it is!

Most societies do tend to be dominated by the majority. Shocking.

the fact is the complaint was "we don't have a day"
the wonders of this culture as some minorities DO get a day,  One cant be upset that you don't have a special day when all of the rest are yours by default


Just plain idiocy. I bet you even felt you had a point when you typed that nonsense.
 
2013-02-27 12:56:18 PM
If you don't agree that's fine, but i'm not some kind of anti-gay activist nor suggesting that anyone's rights be trampled, in fact i'm the opposite, i'm a supporter, but i think the community is going about it wrong is all... I'm sure one day it will all work out, but i personally think it's going to be a longer, harder battle to fight than people are expecting and it angers me that the community embraces the extremists and coddles extreme behavior...
 
2013-02-27 12:57:07 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: jack21221

Schools really need to lighten up. They had to have known that this was a legal minefield. Just let the student peacefully protest that day and get on with it.

Agreed, but also the spoiled snowflakes start stomping their feet and kicking up dust when they are not getting the attention they think they deserve. It sounds a lot like "no one is paying attention to me" PAY ATTENTION TO ME I'M A LESBIAN AND I DESERVE BETTER RIGHTS THAN YOU.

I blame the parents.


And today's Idiot Who Cried "Attention Whore" is... Thanks for being today's designated asshole. We salute you.
 
2013-02-27 12:59:16 PM

CeroX: it angers me that the community embraces the extremists and coddles extreme behavior


You sound moderate.
 
2013-02-27 12:59:35 PM

doubled99: yeah, the majority of days that don't have a "name"  you have ALL of those really, that's just how it works in a white straight dominated culture.


Oh my god, it is!

Most societies do tend to be dominated by the majority. Shocking.

the fact is the complaint was "we don't have a day"
the wonders of this culture as some minorities DO get a day,  One cant be upset that you don't have a special day when all of the rest are yours by default

Just plain idiocy. I bet you even felt you had a point when you typed that nonsense.


ah, so it is like trying to explain to a fish that he is wet... thanks  for bringing that into focus
 
2013-02-27 01:02:39 PM

ciberido: CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,

Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?  Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.


Christ, we need an "Outraged Activists" bingo card. Must include "mansplaining".

/I'm on it!
 
2013-02-27 01:04:21 PM

Phinn: CeroX: I'm not talking about telling effeminate men to stop acting effeminate, i'm not talking about lesbians growing out their buzz cuts either... I'm talking about having the community recognize that there are extremists in their community that makes the community look bad in the public eye.

You realize that this "extremism" you're complaining about doesn't actually hurt you, right?  Affects you not at all?  That it's all just words and symbolic actions that have nothing to do with you?

What is it with people who insist on asserting the right to control other people?  Why does it even register on your radar screen?  So what if some flamer waved a symbolic pink dong around?  He's TROLLING you.  Get it?


He never claimed it hurt him. He just said that intelligent, sober speech and actions are taken far more seriously than attention-whoring histrionics.
 
2013-02-27 01:06:31 PM
tinfoil-hat maggie:
Well, I was surprised when you left out the parades earlier. Well you know what you don't get it. The pride parades aren't really about the politics those are for all the "deviants", even the ones that "attempt" not to be over the top. It's to celebrate the diversity and to show our own numbers and have fun.The politics takes place everyday.

And what i'm trying to point out is that those public displays of what you call fun, is extreme behavior that the other side is paying attention to... They don't ignore that, in fact, those are the displays that stick out in their mind more than anything else, and that image is a negative image to them...

I get it, i do, it's fun, it's Pride... It's not much different than a bunch of rednecks standing around a pile of fireworks drinking beer, shooting guns in the air, wrapping themselves up in American flags and screaming "USA, USA, USA" on the 4th of July because they love being American... the one difference is that they aren't oppressed and seeking equal rights from the rest of America...
 
2013-02-27 01:08:37 PM

CeroX: I get it, i do, it's fun, it's Pride... It's not much different than a bunch of rednecks standing around a pile of fireworks drinking beer, shooting guns in the air, wrapping themselves up in American flags and screaming "USA, USA, USA" on the 4th of July because they love being American... the one difference is that they aren't oppressed and seeking equal rights from the rest of America...


You know how I know you don't know any rednecks?
 
2013-02-27 01:10:48 PM

ciberido: CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,

Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?   Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.


You sound manaphobic
 
2013-02-27 01:13:48 PM

Phinn: CeroX: I get it, i do, it's fun, it's Pride... It's not much different than a bunch of rednecks standing around a pile of fireworks drinking beer, shooting guns in the air, wrapping themselves up in American flags and screaming "USA, USA, USA" on the 4th of July because they love being American... the one difference is that they aren't oppressed and seeking equal rights from the rest of America...

You know how I know you don't know any rednecks?


;) love ya!
 
PJ-
2013-02-27 01:14:26 PM
I don't understand why people are getting caught up over a child not being given certain rights.  I mean seriously, who cares what they think, at that age, they don't even know what they want in a year except for being rich and being able to party with their friends.  When I was in school, I didn't have those rights, I had to show up to school, listen to what the adults said, and if I didn't, I would get punished.  Now, adults go to jail because a child cries about being treated unfairly, losing their jobs because a kid doesn't get enough playtime with their sports team.  Who cares if they think they have a right to protest, who cares that they aren't being treated the same as an adult.  There are things like the Young Offenders Act for a reason, because kids haven't fully developed their critical thinking abilities, so they don't think everything through.  So, we can say 'well that kid can't be punished too harshly because they are too young to know better', but we can't say 'no, you can't protest because you are too young to know better'.

fark that shiat
 
2013-02-27 01:17:02 PM

Joe Blowme: ciberido: CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,

Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?   Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.

You sound manaphobic


LUUUU-CY! You got some mansplaining to do!!!

www.epmonthly.com
 
2013-02-27 01:18:34 PM

ciberido: 99.998er: I am sure many of my fellow Farkers will think I am a jerk (as if they didn't already), but I wicommunity realize Amber is a lesbian by now. Some will agree with her, some will not. It is Florida after all. I appreciate her courage to voice....

I have a better word than "jerk."  How about "concern troll," if we must have a label for you.

Bravo for subtly, though.


Thank you for the enlightenment, however I think the below might be a better fit since I am not terribly passionate about her cause one way or the other:

devil's advocate n. One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity.
 
2013-02-27 01:21:30 PM
IE of parents being dipshiats, and attention whoring out their first grader... so sad
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22674172/transgender-fountain-1st-grade r- banned-from-girls-bathroom#ixzz2M7nLYvc7
 
2013-02-27 01:25:46 PM

JohnCarter: I am so annoyed with the LGBT moniker...


Same here.  It's totally gay.
 
2013-02-27 01:28:02 PM
ah, so it is like trying to explain to a fish that he is wet


You probably think the fish is dumb in that analogy
 
2013-02-27 01:28:17 PM
I went in before reading the article thinking.. Oh boy, another idiot decision by a school.

Not the case here.  She was told WEEKS, then DAYS, then HOURS before NOT to do what she did.
fark her.

You wanna suck dick, or lick pussy.  Fine.  But Jesus.. keep it to yourself.
 
2013-02-27 01:29:14 PM

seadoo2006: give me doughnuts: Thunderpipes: Want to end bullying? Teach your kids to stand up for themselves. Christ, how hard is that? Teaching them to cry just enables it more.


How about teachng your kid not to be a bully?

It's okay ... kids have already figured out the relief valve here ... what you may ask? Well, guns equalize bullying ... bullies SHOULD be afraid for their lives.  I mean, could you imagine how polite everyone would be if they thought that little Jimmy with the ratty clothes might take 20 people out?

Thunderpipes should be all for this.  After all, an armed society is a polite society, right?

School shootings have equalized the playground.  Carry on.


If you liberals would have actually had to stand up for yourselves as children, you might get some self-respect and real self-esteem, and not be so reliant on handouts and be terrified of anyone who doesn't think like you do.

But here is a trophy, you earned it for being alive.
 
2013-02-27 01:51:48 PM

Ker_Thwap: You know seadoo2006, I think CeroX's advice is still valid even with your edit.  Fill in the blank with pretty much anything, and it's still solid advice.  When you have inflexible extremists championing a cause it's less convincing than having a spokesperson who's articulate and thoughtful.    To hyperbolize the example, abortion clinic bomber vs. Martin Luther King.  One is a footnote, one got something accomplished.


This is what I thought when the gay community responded to the whole Chik-fil-A Appreciation Day with the "kiss in" counter protest. All they did was give the bigots another reason to dislike them.

Personally, I thought the fact that Dan Cathy's comments became a scandal was in and of itself a sign of how far the country has moved forward on this issue. Ten years ago, it wouldn't have been a blip on the radar.

Another example, back in 1994 the TV show Roseanne fell into a whole heap of controversy over an episode where Mariel Hemingway gave Roseanne a kiss, which was obscured by the camera angle. Flash forward to 2011. Darren Criss plants a smooch directly on Chris Colfer's lips on Glee (both playing high school students), and the person who got into hot water over it was Victoria Jackson for calling it "disgusting".
 
2013-02-27 01:58:09 PM

CeroX: If you don't agree that's fine, but i'm not some kind of anti-gay activist nor suggesting that anyone's rights be trampled, in fact i'm the opposite, i'm a supporter, but i think the community is going about it wrong is all... I'm sure one day it will all work out, but i personally think it's going to be a longer, harder battle to fight than people are expecting and it angers me that the community embraces the extremists and coddles extreme behavior...


I grant that you're sincere and mean well.

You can be well-intentioned and yet wrong.  As can I, for that matter.  The sincerity of my belief doesn't automatically make me right and you wrong, or vice-versa.
 
2013-02-27 01:59:26 PM

Joe Blowme: ciberido: CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,

Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?   Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.

You sound manaphobic



Some of my best friends are men :-P  Hell, I even like YOU sometimes, Joe.
 
2013-02-27 02:00:07 PM

KimNorth: "She arrived to school on the following day wearing a red T-shirt with the message "DOS April 20, 2012: Shhhhh" and communicated using a dry-erase board. The dean of students punished Hatcher with an in-school suspension."
Sorry there sweetheart but using a dry-eraser board in all your classes to communicate IS a bit disruptive..........


Actually, that would probably facilitate clearer communication, since most people have more legible printing than their spoken words. It's certainly not disruptive any more than someone wearing a flashing T-shirt, which is something I would count as 'if you have a problem with this you're a wuss'.
 
2013-02-27 02:05:53 PM
Whatever. She's pretty hot.
 
2013-02-27 02:13:48 PM

Thunderpipes: seadoo2006: give me doughnuts: Thunderpipes: Want to end bullying? Teach your kids to stand up for themselves. Christ, how hard is that? Teaching them to cry just enables it more.


How about teachng your kid not to be a bully?

It's okay ... kids have already figured out the relief valve here ... what you may ask? Well, guns equalize bullying ... bullies SHOULD be afraid for their lives.  I mean, could you imagine how polite everyone would be if they thought that little Jimmy with the ratty clothes might take 20 people out?

Thunderpipes should be all for this.  After all, an armed society is a polite society, right?

School shootings have equalized the playground.  Carry on.

If you liberals would have actually had to stand up for yourselves as children, you might get some self-respect and real self-esteem, and not be so reliant on handouts and be terrified of anyone who doesn't think like you do.

But here is a trophy, you earned it for being alive.


You know, as a liberal, I prefer the term "Dirty hippie Liberal scum" rather than "you liberal". If you are gonna diss us, do it right! And enough with the stereotype of us being whimpy with no self esteem. That point is getting old. Why not talk to more than one of us for a change and you might be SHOCKED to find that we were raised by great families and have LOTS of self esteem, thank you very much.

and I won't waste my breath with the usual "you are what's wrong with society" rants. Nope, you aren't worth it. Times and people are changing and waking up to the fact (thanks to us opening our mouths) that you know what, WE DESERVE TO BE TREATED EQUALLY. So yeah, if we have to get a little loud and annoying to make the point of something as "minor" as you know, being treated EQUALLY, well then, until we are, DEAL WITH IT.
 
2013-02-27 02:14:51 PM
I forgot to add in my last post

/Transgendered
 
2013-02-27 02:22:00 PM
14"x14" whiteboard, $18.49
Day of Silence T-Shirt, $15.00

Learning who the real bullies are...priceless
 
2013-02-27 02:25:57 PM

doubled99: ah, so it is like trying to explain to a fish that he is wet


You probably think the fish is dumb in that analogy


no, but unaware that there can be any different existence to his own. to a fish he is wet, all the time, so you cant explain wet to him.  not stupid or dumb but ignorant.

Stupid or dumb comes to play when you refuse to acknowledge that there can be any different kind of life to theirs
 
2013-02-27 02:26:46 PM

ciberido: Joe Blowme: ciberido: CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,

Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?   Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.

You sound manaphobic


Some of my best friends are men :-P  Hell, I even like YOU sometimes, Joe.


NIce, i see what you did there
 
2013-02-27 02:28:24 PM

KimNorth: Coolfusis: pDiablo: hmm lets see, gay pride, lesbian day, hmm oh yes notting hill carnival ( celebration weekend for afro carrbibean culture..hey how about this one... Straight, white hardworking family man day..gimme a date and we'll make it so...

When a straight, white hardworking family man gets tied to a post and beaten to death just for being a straight, white hardworking family man, we'll give you your own day.

Hum, we already have that day it's April 15th.


Oh cool!  I didn't know that only straight, white hardworking family men have to pay taxes.  Since I'm divorced and no longer a "family man" - tax loophole!  Yay!
 
2013-02-27 02:38:41 PM
One of my favorite games to play on Fark is ignoring people, then seeing them quoted and patting myself on the back for being such a good judge of character.
 
2013-02-27 02:48:49 PM

CeroX: Phinn: CeroX: I get it, i do, it's fun, it's Pride... It's not much different than a bunch of rednecks standing around a pile of fireworks drinking beer, shooting guns in the air, wrapping themselves up in American flags and screaming "USA, USA, USA" on the 4th of July because they love being American... the one difference is that they aren't oppressed and seeking equal rights from the rest of America...

You know how I know you don't know any rednecks?

;) love ya!


Love ya too!

No homo.
 
2013-02-27 02:54:08 PM
"The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio affirmed the student's with the slogan "Jesus Is Not a Homophobe" to school."

That's weird I recall previous cases in which the rulings almost always came down to:  As long as it's applied equally the schools can make up whatever rules they want as far as dress code.

Maybe I am mis-remembering.

Also holy hell does "Lambada Law Firm" paint an image of polyester suits.
 
2013-02-27 02:55:46 PM

Cybernetic: Supreme Court jurisprudence has far more to say about lewd speech and drug-related speech than it does about protests or political speech (Papish, Bethel, Hazelwood, and Morse). But those rulings clearly establish that students in school do not have the same First Amendment rights as adults in other settings.

The Tinker decision hinges on the idea that the wearing of armbands was "entirely divorced from actually or potentially disruptive conduct," and refers to their conduct as "silent, passive expression of opinion, unaccompanied by any disorder or disturbance."

The whole concept of the Day of Silence appears to be an attempt to adhere to the letter of the Tinker decision while defying its spirit. Keeping silent adheres to the Tinker standard of "silent, passive expression". Communication by whiteboard is significantly slower than speaking, and thus inherently disruptive to the flow of instruction, and also serves to draw attention to the protester, and therefore constitutes a "disorder or disturbance".

The lawsuit itself admits that the student knew that she could not "materially and substantially disrupt the school environment or the rights of

others," and describes the Day of Silence as "inherently expressive" and "a day of action." I find it difficult to reconcile that first statement with the other two.

The school's report may not mention the whiteboard, but that doesn't mean that the presence and use of the whiteboard was not disruptive or relevant to her removal from class.


Yes, but while the Day of Silence at least "adhere[s] to the letter of the Tinker decision," the school's policy--as described prior to this incident, and as at least arguably applied to this incident--doesn't even come close to adhering to Tinker or its progeny.  This school district, by its own admission, has an absolute policy against protests.  That simply canot be squared with current First Amendment caselaw.  And, since the school has such a policy, and communicated this policy to the student, it becomes very difficult for the school to argue that its disciplinary action here was motivated by an attempt to prevent classroom disruption caused by the whiteboard, rather than being simply an application of its absolute policy against protests.  And, in light of the  policy, even if the whiteboard was disruptive and/or relevant to the student's removal from class, the fact that the school's report did not mention it, but did mention the shirt, makes the school's case that much more difficult.
 
2013-02-27 03:18:42 PM

99.998er: ciberido: 99.998er: I am sure many of my fellow Farkers will think I am a jerk (as if they didn't already), but I wicommunity realize Amber is a lesbian by now. Some will agree with her, some will not. It is Florida after all. I appreciate her courage to voice....

I have a better word than "jerk."  How about "concern troll," if we must have a label for you.

Bravo for subtly, though.

Thank you for the enlightenment, however I think the below might be a better fit since I am not terribly passionate about her cause one way or the other:

devil's advocate n. One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity.


Now that I think about it, I don't know that "concern troll" is really a good term for it anyway.  Calling you a "concern troll" would suggest that I think you're a kind of troll, which, on reflection, might not be right.  When people think of trolls they think of someone who's pretending to believe something they really don't, and I probably should call you insincere, at least without more evidence.

What I should perhaps say instead is that you're using a "more flies with honey," which may be completely sincere, but is still annoying.  Maybe I need a more pity term for this, like "honeyer" or "honey champion" or something.
 
2013-02-27 03:33:05 PM

ciberido: CeroX: My wife is bi, and her best friend is a lesbian, my sister is a lesbian, and 2 of the 3 act like every day people who will openly talk about being bi and gay if the subject comes up and people who i normally hear talking down about gays and lesbians actually listen to what they have to say because they conduct themselves rationally,

Hey, you know what lesbians DON'T need?  Straight men mansplaining to them how to stand up for their rights.


Yeah, what would the Patriarchy know about expressing power?
 
2013-02-27 03:37:54 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's not clear at all why the administration turned this into such a major issue. Or why the teacher sent her to the principal for such a minor disobedient act. She was using a whiteboard to communicate.

It's not even that I think she should be allowed to get away with anything, but in this case what exactly are they trying to pin on this girl?

It's ridiculous.


"Substantial disruption of the educational process," but they always forget the "substantial" part.  There's a balance point between free speech and the right to education.

T-shirts I'm OK with.  Silence and whiteboards may well substantially disrupt the educational process.
 
2013-02-27 03:40:02 PM

Ker_Thwap: It's simple.  The school wants to teach it's curriculum.  If you allow one group to have a silent protest, then you must allow all groups to have their protests.  The school administration is removing itself from the morality judgement business entirely.   This does not equate to being pro bullying.   It's to keep a bunch of kids from waving their "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!  I'M SPECIAL!" beliefs around during education time.

No Anti Bullying, no LBGT, No Fundamentalist Christian, No KKK, No Hugs for Gunlovers, etc.   There are a lot of people with a lot of different moral codes, just shut up and pay attention in class.


We can't accommodate everyone's rights so let's take everyone's rights away.  You're a genius.
 
2013-02-27 03:42:47 PM

MattyBlast: What kind of nerd would take a case like this, anyway?


Darn. I was hoping for an "I see what you did there" response, but I guess I wasn't clever enough.

/or nobody caught the reference
 
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