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(The Daily Dolt)   Brooklyn Assemblyman offers perfectly reasonable explanation for wearing a blackface "basketball player" costume for Purim. Bonus: "Would it be okay if I went as an Indian next year? A gay person?"   (thedailydolt.com) divider line 66
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2013-02-27 09:20:03 AM
He should go full Super Skrull and absorb all the powers of the Village People.
 
2013-02-27 09:40:03 AM
"Forget it, Jake. It's Purim."
 
2013-02-27 09:42:28 AM
I'd kind of like to see what his idea of a costume for dressing up as a gay person would be. If he just walked in with a dick in his mouth, I say we give him a pass.
 
2013-02-27 09:42:32 AM
....

... no?


Seriously, though, how could he not manage, "No, I wasn't playing a generic stereotypical black dude, I was playing [specific black dude that happens to look stereotypical]"?  I mean, come on, I know you don't get formal training in excuse-making in public school, but this one's pretty intuitively obvious.

I mean, come on, "No, I totally  am racist, but you shouldn't worry about it"?  What is he, Iris@!#!#%!@$@--------------CARRIER LOST
 
2013-02-27 09:50:06 AM
I'm kind of surprised he didn't try pulling the Holocaust card to get out of trouble.
 
2013-02-27 09:53:34 AM
Like blacks have never put on goofy glasses and a big nose for a costume before.
 
2013-02-27 09:56:47 AM
In before "this just proves Dems are the REAL racists."
 
2013-02-27 09:56:56 AM
Give the guy a break. he was clearly trying to dress as Patrick Ewing. The resemblence is obvious. I see a woman dressed as the devil, but nobody is speaking up for the Satan worshippers. Typical.
 
2013-02-27 10:01:08 AM
If the goal is to dress up as something you are not, then its a good costume. He is.obviously not a black basketball player. I mean, nobody ever complains about the people dressed as devils painting thier faces red... Save the racist outrage for really outrageous stuff.
 
2013-02-27 10:02:52 AM

Smackledorfer: Like blacks have never put on goofy glasses and a big nose for a costume before.


And they definitely do not all get busy in a Burger King bathroom.
 
2013-02-27 10:05:43 AM

DarwiOdrade: In before "this just proves Dems are the REAL racists."


Nope, Dems have isolated incidents. Only Republicans have a pattern. This is simply a group of treers and not a forest.
 
2013-02-27 10:09:00 AM
Orthodox Jew?

*Google*

Orthodox Jew. Specifically a Williamsburg Hasid frum. farking hell. More obnoxiously insular and self-absorbed communities I've not seen in the northeast.
 
2013-02-27 10:10:06 AM

Mrbogey: DarwiOdrade: In before "this just proves Dems are the REAL racists."

Nope, Dems have isolated incidents. Only Republicans have a pattern. This is simply a group of treers and not a forest.


preponderance of the evidence something something
 
2013-02-27 10:13:27 AM

Diogenes: Mrbogey: DarwiOdrade: In before "this just proves Dems are the REAL racists."

Nope, Dems have isolated incidents. Only Republicans have a pattern. This is simply a group of treers and not a forest.

preponderance of the evidence something something


Southern Democrats and KKK nonsense in 3...2...
 
2013-02-27 10:13:40 AM

Mrbogey: DarwiOdrade: In before "this just proves Dems are the REAL racists."

Nope, Dems have isolated incidents. Only Republicans have a pattern. This is simply a group of treers and not a forest.


Um... it is an isolated incident. Specifically, an isolated incident of a state-level politician who happens to be a member of an insular religious community that tends to be insensitive or outright racist to other groups. Got some more examples of this bullshiat before I google something simple like "College republicans" and find a thousand retarded examples of mindless blackface alone?
 
2013-02-27 10:17:08 AM
Are blacks so special so that you shan't make yourself up to look like one?
 
2013-02-27 10:17:55 AM
meh, he should've known better - seriously... but meh.
 
2013-02-27 10:18:41 AM
I've got a fun suggestion for him for next year...

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It's just fun, right? No big deal...
 
2013-02-27 10:20:37 AM

keylock71: I've got a fun suggestion for him for next year...

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It's just fun, right? No big deal...


Self-deprecation tends to be a better sign of actually having a sense of humor. It's easy to mock other people for being different in different ways. Mocking yourself for being different from most is an actual emotional risk. It would be hilarious if an Orthodox Jew went full-on South Park stereotype for Halloween and carried around a bag of chocolate coins around his neck. The problem is most of those communities tend to have about as much humor as the Amish.
 
2013-02-27 10:21:37 AM
It looks more orangeface than blackface.  I would have accepted a dodge of going as Boehner or an Oompa Loompa.
 
2013-02-27 10:24:45 AM

keylock71: I've got a fun suggestion for him for next year...

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It's just fun, right? No big deal...


t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-27 10:26:40 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Are blacks so special so that you shan't make yourself up to look like one?


Yes.
 
2013-02-27 10:27:30 AM

skullkrusher: keylock71: I've got a fun suggestion for him for next year...

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It's just fun, right? No big deal...

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"Being Irish, I guess I should resent the Notre Dame nickname, "The Fighting Irish." After all, how long do you think nicknames like "The Bargaining Jews" or "The Murdering Italians" would last? Only the ironic Irish could be so naively honest. I get the feeling that Notre Dame came real close to naming itself "The farkin' Drunken, Thick-skulled, Brawling, Short-dicked Irish." - George Carlin
 
2013-02-27 10:28:34 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Noam Chimpsky: Are blacks so special so that you shan't make yourself up to look like one?

Yes.


it's like iconography of Muhammed... cept disdain on the internet replaces assassination and blowing shiat up
 
2013-02-27 10:30:02 AM

keylock71: skullkrusher: keylock71: I've got a fun suggestion for him for next year...

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 271x320]

It's just fun, right? No big deal...

[t1.gstatic.com image 225x225]


"Being Irish, I guess I should resent the Notre Dame nickname, "The Fighting Irish." After all, how long do you think nicknames like "The Bargaining Jews" or "The Murdering Italians" would last? Only the ironic Irish could be so naively honest. I get the feeling that Notre Dame came real close to naming itself "The farkin' Drunken, Thick-skulled, Brawling, Short-dicked Irish." - George Carlin


hehe - actually the team name was what must have been the first example of "taking it back". Fighting Irish was a slur in the Northeast at the turn of the century so ND took it back.
 
2013-02-27 10:30:39 AM
The best defense he had was to point out that on Purim, you're supposed to get so drunk that you can't tell the difference between the good guy and the bad guy in the story.  So he could have pretended to not even KNOW what he dressed up as.

Turns out, fundamentalists of any religion are assholes.
 
2013-02-27 10:31:16 AM
This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.
 
2013-02-27 10:32:57 AM
It can't be overstated: blackface is NEVER a good idea.
 
2013-02-27 10:35:02 AM

GoldSpider: It can't be overstated: blackface is NEVER a good idea.


what do YOU mean "you peopl"... oh, you didn't say that
 
2013-02-27 10:36:06 AM

HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.


Really? Not familiar with him, but if that's the case, he's a hypocrite as well as an insensitive douche bag.

But, apparently, that's who his constituents want representing them. Good for them, I guess.
 
2013-02-27 10:39:17 AM

skullkrusher: DROxINxTHExWIND: Noam Chimpsky: Are blacks so special so that you shan't make yourself up to look like one?

Yes.

it's like iconography of Muhammed... cept disdain on the internet replaces assassination and blowing shiat up


Its a much more peaceful protest. Plus, its easier to call someone a bigot on-line than it is to get my hands on a rocket launcher.
 
2013-02-27 10:40:24 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: skullkrusher: DROxINxTHExWIND: Noam Chimpsky: Are blacks so special so that you shan't make yourself up to look like one?

Yes.

it's like iconography of Muhammed... cept disdain on the internet replaces assassination and blowing shiat up

Its a much more peaceful protest. Plus, its easier to call someone a bigot on-line than it is to get my hands on a rocket launcher.


not if the NRA gets its way
 
2013-02-27 10:40:34 AM

skullkrusher: GoldSpider: It can't be overstated: blackface is NEVER a good idea.

what do YOU mean "you peopl"... oh, you didn't say that


That reminds me, I'm overdue to watch Tropic Thunder and Super Troopers again.
 
2013-02-27 10:41:06 AM
Without reading TFA I know whether it is a democrat or republican. This is because my teabagger co-worker frequents the teabagger sites. So whenever a democrat does something dumb it hits a day before on those sites.

Curiously (not really) he is never informed when a republican does something dumb....
 
2013-02-27 10:43:35 AM

keylock71: HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.

Really? Not familiar with him, but if that's the case, he's a hypocrite as well as an insensitive douche bag.

But, apparently, that's who his constituents want representing them. Good for them, I guess.


he's pretty outspoken about those sorts of things. Of course, Hasid do have a lot of open bigotry directed at them. On the other hand, another guy who is fond of talking about bias against Jews, Abe Foxman, head of the ADL, said this, "Assemblyman Dov Hikind showed terrible judgment in attending a Purim party in blackface. If blacks got dressed up as Hasidim, it would be seen as equally inappropriate"


"Assemblyman Dov Hikind showed terrible judgment in attending a Purim party in blackface. If blacks got dressed up as Hasidim, it would be seen as equally inappropriate - See more at: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/25/assemblyman-dov-hikind-shows-u p -to-purim-party-in-blackface/#sthash.HunbpBzj.dpu"Assemblyman Dov Hikind showed terrible judgment in attending a Purim party in blackface. If blacks got dressed up as Hasidim, it would be seen as equally inappropriate - See more at: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/25/assemblyman-dov-hikind-shows-u p -to-purim-party-in-blackface/#sthash.HunbpBzj.dpuf"Assemblyman Dov Hikind showed terrible judgment in attending a Purim party in blackface. If blacks got dressed up as Hasidim, it would be seen as equally inappropriate - See more at: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/25/assemblyman-dov-hikind-shows-u p -to-purim-party-in-blackface/#sthash.HunbpBzj.dpuf
"Assemblyman Dov Hikind showed terrible judgment in attending a Purim party in blackface. If blacks got dressed up as Hasidim, it would be seen as equally inappropriate - See more at: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/25/assemblyman-dov-hikind-shows-u p -to-purim-party-in-blackface/#sthash.HunbpBzj.dpuf
 
2013-02-27 10:44:09 AM
His presser in front of his house was pretty epic in a banal sort of way (if that's possible - there needs to be a compound German word for "epic banality); he spent ten minutes apologizing "if" people might be offended, then immediately impugning the motives of those who might be offended, and repeating ad nauseum, "It was Purim! It was Purim! It was PUUUURIIIIMMM!"
 
2013-02-27 10:44:14 AM
well that was an html clusterfark... you get the idea
 
2013-02-27 10:46:51 AM

HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.


Jewish is a race? (incidentally I agree - I just really like asking this question)

Bonus points to this guy for "sorry you were offended" non-apology.

Next year I'm going as a greedy Jew with 'fro, hunchback, horns, and jew-gold. Sorry ahead of time if he's offended.
 
2013-02-27 10:49:02 AM

justtray: HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.

Jewish is a race? (incidentally I agree - I just really like asking this question)

Bonus points to this guy for "sorry you were offended" non-apology.

Next year I'm going as a greedy Jew with 'fro, hunchback, horns, and jew-gold. Sorry ahead of time if he's offended.


That goes past offensive into hilarious parody, if done right. It's about taking refuge in audacity and going far beyond anything that could be feasible or seen as not a joke. It's like how a dead baby is tragic, but a dead baby fired from a catapult? Ballistically funny.
 
2013-02-27 10:49:23 AM

justtray: HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.

Jewish is a race? (incidentally I agree - I just really like asking this question)

Bonus points to this guy for "sorry you were offended" non-apology.

Next year I'm going as a greedy Jew with 'fro, hunchback, horns, and jew-gold. Sorry ahead of time if he's offended.


what about the other Jewish people that aren't Dov Hikind? Hey, at least you got to exorcise some of that latent anti-semitism and pretend like you were just attacking this one dude
 
2013-02-27 10:50:04 AM
How much of a doofus do you have to be to think that as a public official this was a good idea?
 
2013-02-27 10:51:29 AM

Bloody William: justtray: HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.

Jewish is a race? (incidentally I agree - I just really like asking this question)

Bonus points to this guy for "sorry you were offended" non-apology.

Next year I'm going as a greedy Jew with 'fro, hunchback, horns, and jew-gold. Sorry ahead of time if he's offended.

That goes past offensive into hilarious parody, if done right. It's about taking refuge in audacity and going far beyond anything that could be feasible or seen as not a joke. It's like how a dead baby is tragic, but a dead baby fired from a catapult? Ballistically funny.


It was the horns wasn't it? Maybe if I replace them with a calculator and glasses?

I'm not very good at this racism thing.
 
2013-02-27 10:52:40 AM

skullkrusher: justtray: HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.

Jewish is a race? (incidentally I agree - I just really like asking this question)

Bonus points to this guy for "sorry you were offended" non-apology.

Next year I'm going as a greedy Jew with 'fro, hunchback, horns, and jew-gold. Sorry ahead of time if he's offended.

what about the other Jewish people that aren't Dov Hikind? Hey, at least you got to exorcise some of that latent anti-semitism and pretend like you were just attacking this one dude


I think ever since Borat, any time you portray a Jew with horns and don't actually mean it, it's pretty funny.  Though if you're not a member of the group, it's much trickier to pull it off.
 
2013-02-27 10:53:39 AM

skullkrusher: well that was an html clusterfark... you get the idea


I do... Of course, I would assume more commonsense oriented Jewish folks wouldn't be defending this guy.

On a slightly related note, the use of the phrase "terrible judgment" in these types of situations always bugs me.

Really just a nice way of saying "Ignorant asshole", isn't it?
 
2013-02-27 10:56:30 AM

keylock71: I do... Of course, I would assume more commonsense oriented Jewish folks wouldn't be defending this guy.


Yo.

/Not practicing, but it's a race, and no one in my family except the few frum distant cousins would defend this asshole or do anything but call him an idiot.
 
2013-02-27 10:57:51 AM

Bloody William: That goes past offensive into hilarious parody, if done right. It's about taking refuge in audacity and going far beyond anything that could be feasible or seen as not a joke. It's like how a dead baby is tragic, but a dead baby fired from a catapult? Ballistically funny.


Been seeing a lot of Hikind on my Facebooks the last few days, but I never bothered reading up (because it's clear Hikind's an idiot).

However, do we know that his costume wasn't over-the-top? What WOULD be an "over-the-top" "black" costume - blackface, comically large facial features, a huge afro, basketball shorts, oil grease on the collar, holding a bottle of grape DRANK and a Kenyan birf sertifikit, and anything short of that is simply racist? (Is it possible this moron thought he WAS being over the top - bearing in mind that Orthodox Jews are a bit reserved, so "silliness" may just be wearing a bright-colored tie?)

Anyway, Hikind's a moron, and his apology cements his moron status.
 
2013-02-27 11:02:47 AM

Dr Dreidel: However, do we know that his costume wasn't over-the-top? What WOULD be an "over-the-top" "black" costume - blackface, comically large facial features, a huge afro, basketball shorts, oil grease on the collar, holding a bottle of grape DRANK and a Kenyan birf sertifikit, and anything short of that is simply racist? (Is it possible this moron thought he WAS being over the top - bearing in mind that Orthodox Jews are a bit reserved, so "silliness" may just be wearing a bright-colored tie?)


There are a lot of factors to it and maybe the Jew-with-horns thing isn't the best example, since it was made funny and "okay" by a Jewish actor's portrayal of a racist Eastern European. It's really, really difficult to be an over-the-top portrayal of any  other group without seeming insensitive or racist. It's about how self-deprecating humor is easier to appreciate and lets others laugh with you about your own group more than just insulting other groups. That doesn't mean it can't be done, and while it's insane, it's about subtlety. Being over the top but having enough small, notable points that everyone gets the wink without it just seeming... really, really uncomfortable.
 
2013-02-27 11:02:58 AM

Bloody William: skullkrusher: justtray: HotWingConspiracy: This guy NEVER misses an opportunity to talk up racism against Jewish people, I'm really kind of surprised he's this farking clueless.

Jewish is a race? (incidentally I agree - I just really like asking this question)

Bonus points to this guy for "sorry you were offended" non-apology.

Next year I'm going as a greedy Jew with 'fro, hunchback, horns, and jew-gold. Sorry ahead of time if he's offended.

what about the other Jewish people that aren't Dov Hikind? Hey, at least you got to exorcise some of that latent anti-semitism and pretend like you were just attacking this one dude

I think ever since Borat, any time you portray a Jew with horns and don't actually mean it, it's pretty funny.  Though if you're not a member of the group, it's much trickier to pull it off.


which reminds me - I am still waiting for Amazon to send me those gypsy tears. Tracking says it left Romania on Friday!
 
2013-02-27 11:07:35 AM

Dr Dreidel: Bloody William: That goes past offensive into hilarious parody, if done right. It's about taking refuge in audacity and going far beyond anything that could be feasible or seen as not a joke. It's like how a dead baby is tragic, but a dead baby fired from a catapult? Ballistically funny.

Been seeing a lot of Hikind on my Facebooks the last few days, but I never bothered reading up (because it's clear Hikind's an idiot).

However, do we know that his costume wasn't over-the-top? What WOULD be an "over-the-top" "black" costume - blackface, comically large facial features, a huge afro, basketball shorts, oil grease on the collar, holding a bottle of grape DRANK and a Kenyan birf sertifikit, and anything short of that is simply racist? (Is it possible this moron thought he WAS being over the top - bearing in mind that Orthodox Jews are a bit reserved, so "silliness" may just be wearing a bright-colored tie?)

Anyway, Hikind's a moron, and his apology cements his moron status.


That's the thing - it is an incredibly stupid thing for a presumably up-to-date (like the past 80 years or so) thing to do, especially an elected official in NYC, but in the absence of other stereotyping you can't really assert it is biased. Blackface CAN be funny (see Tropic Thunder as referenced earlier) and there is no doubt that this guy wasn't the least bit amusing but the evidence of malice isn't there. Maybe it's a chicken-egg thing. Did he wear blackface because he was dressing as a basketball player or did he dress as a basketball player because he was wearing blackface?
 
2013-02-27 11:10:10 AM

skullkrusher: That's the thing - it is an incredibly stupid thing for a presumably up-to-date (like the past 80 years or so) thing to do, especially an elected official in NYC, but in the absence of other stereotyping you can't really assert it is biased. Blackface CAN be funny (see Tropic Thunder as referenced earlier) and there is no doubt that this guy wasn't the least bit amusing but the evidence of malice isn't there. Maybe it's a chicken-egg thing. Did he wear blackface because he was dressing as a basketball player or did he dress as a basketball player because he was wearing blackface?


Hasidim generally aren't known for subtle, subversive humor. And I'm sure there wasn't any malice, or at least intentional malice. It was just ridiculous insensitive.
 
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