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2013-02-27 11:05:10 AM  
What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?
 
2013-02-27 11:10:22 AM  
I don't exactly understand what they are doing here.  On one hand they say, "you can have the house".  But immediately later, they say they are planning on demolishing them anyway.

Are they looking to let people fix them up, or do they really just want people to do the actual labor of tearing them down?
 
2013-02-27 11:12:18 AM  
They need the land for their Art and Transit project.  They'll demolish the houses if necessary.  But if anyone is willing to take the houses, that's fine too, as long as it leaves the land clear in the end for new construction.
 
2013-02-27 11:12:53 AM  

durbnpoisn: Are they looking to let people fix them up, or do they really just want people to do the actual labor of tearing them down?


They need the land they're sitting on to be cleared.  If people will volunteer to remove the structures at their own cost, great! Otherwise, they'll have to pay a demolition company to come in and knock them down and haul away the rubble.
 
2013-02-27 11:13:11 AM  
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What a structure lifting contractor may look like
 
2013-02-27 11:17:01 AM  
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Careful. There are scuba divers in there.
 
2013-02-27 11:23:46 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?


I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.
 
2013-02-27 11:26:44 AM  

TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.


Still, it's better than Harvard. I don't think I've ever been to a more drab school.
 
2013-02-27 11:35:20 AM  

TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.


Not just modern architecture ... most of the "Gothic" buildings are actually circa 1870-1930, during Princeton's "we want to look like Oxbridge" phase.
 
2013-02-27 11:36:37 AM  

TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.


I live pretty close to there.  I don't go into Princeton often...  Last time I was there, I drove to the lot where I normally park (the one behind Triumph and the Record Exchange.  I was astonished to find that someone had built an appartment building on it!  I was like, "Wait, what?!?  Where the hell did that come from?!"
 
2013-02-27 11:50:06 AM  
Depending on how old they are the wood in them could be worth quite a bit.
 
2013-02-27 11:50:34 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Careful. There are scuba divers in there.


Came to say this.  The ABC news link in TFA says:

For now, the houses sit empty, each marked with a red and white X. That's a signal to the local fire department: If the house burns, don't take any risks to put it out.

Yet the picture at the top of the article shows a red square with a single while line from corner to corner. It's almost like the author didn't even bother to look at the picture!
 
2013-02-27 12:10:13 PM  
So, do we have to do it all at once, or can we move them piece by piece? I can't fit the whole thing in an Accord.
 
2013-02-27 12:28:56 PM  
That particular building doesn't look worth moving and I bet it's not even worth salvaging.

channel.nationalgeographic.com
 
2013-02-27 12:49:40 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Still, it's better than Harvard. I don't think I've ever been to a more drab school.


Well, yeah, but 90% of Harvard by volume was built in the last 60 or 70 years, and they basically don't let you build giant stone castles with gargoyles and marble staircases and intricate plastering anymore.

There are a few places in the Yaaaaahhhhhhd where if you squint, Harvard looks like Harvard. Enough for tourists and admissions brochures.
 
2013-02-27 12:51:49 PM  

TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.


Do you ever see Willie driving his scooter around? He'shiatchhiked with me when it was in the shop and I'd help him carry his groceries.
 
2013-02-27 01:07:04 PM  

Rude Turnip: TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.

Do you ever see Willie driving his scooter around? He'shiatchhiked with me when it was in the shop and I'd help him carry his groceries.


Is that the older gentleman who drives the red 4 wheel scooter with all the reflective tape on it?  yeah he's a local character,  but I used to wonder about Bullwinkle,  the slightly slow gentleman who used to wander around in one of those meshback trucker hats with stuffed moose antlers on each side.  Although the slow part is an assumption on my part,  I've met a few of the Advanced institute Researchers socially, and they are just as strange.
 
2013-02-27 01:17:19 PM  

TommyJReed: Rude Turnip: TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.

Do you ever see Willie driving his scooter around? He'shiatchhiked with me when it was in the shop and I'd help him carry his groceries.

Is that the older gentleman who drives the red 4 wheel scooter with all the reflective tape on it?  yeah he's a local character,  but I used to wonder about Bullwinkle,  the slightly slow gentleman who used to wander around in one of those meshback trucker hats with stuffed moose antlers on each side.  Although the slow part is an assumption on my part,  I've met a few of the Advanced institute Researchers socially, and they are just as strange.


I can haz Princeton fark party?
 
2013-02-27 01:22:15 PM  

TommyJReed: Rude Turnip: TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

I live in the damn town and I have no Idea why.  I assume it is because the oldest parts are from the late 1700's and the university expands in fits and starts, swallowing up parcels of land and vomiting forth whatever passes for modern architecture at the time.  I hate driving in this area because all the roads in the center of town are very narrow, and haven't expanded much since horse and cart days.

Do you ever see Willie driving his scooter around? He'shiatchhiked with me when it was in the shop and I'd help him carry his groceries.

Is that the older gentleman who drives the red 4 wheel scooter with all the reflective tape on it?  yeah he's a local character,  but I used to wonder about Bullwinkle,  the slightly slow gentleman who used to wander around in one of those meshback trucker hats with stuffed moose antlers on each side.  Although the slow part is an assumption on my part,  I've met a few of the Advanced institute Researchers socially, and they are just as strange.


Yup, that's him! I don't work downtown, so I don't get the full spectrum of characters. A strange man did start talking to me on Nassau Street when a bunch of us got ice cream.
 
2013-02-27 01:31:49 PM  

Ambitwistor: TommyJReed: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with Princeton's schizophrenic campus architecture?

Not just modern architecture ... most of the "Gothic" buildings are actually circa 1870-1930, during Princeton's "we want to look like Oxbridge" phase.


That's pretty much it.  Princeton went through four phases:

(I) The original buildings with the colonial architecture at the time of its founding (think University of Virginia,) still visible in Nassau Hall and the adjacent theological seminary;

(II) An orgy of "Gothic Legos" architecture imitating Oxford and Cambridge, covering most of the campus;

(III) That awkward period in the 60s and 70s where the whole point of architecture was to make things look like suck to prove some point; and

(IV)  The modern era where we don't exactly know what to do.  Half the buildings are sort of vaginal and shiny, and the other half are rectilinear and shiny.

I do like the Princeton style of stapling a big modern building on the back of an old building so the facade is untouched.  You see this in the opening credits of every episode of "House," where they show the back of the old Palmer Physics Building.  I also like the "Gothic Legos" architecture even though I know it's a fraud.  It looks nice, it blends in with the greenery, you can get utterly lost wandering around, there's a million places to go hide and read a book, and everything smells like stone and iron, especially after it rains.
 
2013-02-27 01:32:49 PM  

Rude Turnip: Yup, that's him! I don't work downtown, so I don't get the full spectrum of characters. A strange man did start talking to me on Nassau Street when a bunch of us got ice cream.


Are you talking about the Bent Spoon?  Is it still open?
 
2013-02-27 01:47:33 PM  

semiotix: Well, yeah, but 90% of Harvard by volume was built in the last 60 or 70 years, and they basically don't let you build giant stone castles with gargoyles and marble staircases and intricate plastering anymore.


Well, they let you, but it's not considered a good idea anymore.  Since a lot of that fancy gargoyle stuff is cut from limestone, universities are spending ungodly amounts of money to restore their buildings after a couple centuries of erosion.  Plus, it was a lot cheaper back then, when skilled craftsmanship was more widely available.  Not a lot of people carve stone anymore.  I think Meg Whitman endowed Princeton with a new residence hall and insisted on the same old architecture, but it was her money so no problem.

CSB:  i once helped to organized a scavenger hunt for the grad students, and thought it would be hilarious to hide a clue among the pretentious campus stonework.  I bought a slab of limestone and carved it up with a gargoyle and a tiger and the University logo, and chiseled a message along bottom dedicated to the class of GO TO 113 FRIEND CENTER.  Then we placed it against a wall in the University Press courtyard, where the teams were directed to find the next clue.  It was a pretty awesome effect, worth the hours of manual labor; except that afterwards everyone asked me, "how did you make a bunch of styrofoam look so much like stone?"  FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
2013-02-27 03:10:42 PM  

Xcott: Rude Turnip: Yup, that's him! I don't work downtown, so I don't get the full spectrum of characters. A strange man did start talking to me on Nassau Street when a bunch of us got ice cream.

Are you talking about the Bent Spoon?  Is it still open?


Thomas Sweet on Nassau Street. Bent Spoon is way too expensive for that puny little cup they give you. Bent Spoon is probably open.

Also, when is the Fark meet up at the Yankee Doodle Tap Room?
 
2013-02-27 03:14:25 PM  

Xcott: semiotix: Well, yeah, but 90% of Harvard by volume was built in the last 60 or 70 years, and they basically don't let you build giant stone castles with gargoyles and marble staircases and intricate plastering anymore.

Well, they let you, but it's not considered a good idea anymore.


Yeah, the irony is that Harvard is basically the only school that could actually afford to make all their new buildings look like Hogwarts. I went to a college that is renowned for its Hogwartsian "Collegiate Gothic" architecture, which they accomplished by basically adding zero new buildings between 1850 and 2000.
 
2013-02-27 03:42:03 PM  

Rude Turnip: Xcott: Rude Turnip: Yup, that's him! I don't work downtown, so I don't get the full spectrum of characters. A strange man did start talking to me on Nassau Street when a bunch of us got ice cream.

Are you talking about the Bent Spoon?  Is it still open?

Thomas Sweet on Nassau Street. Bent Spoon is way too expensive for that puny little cup they give you. Bent Spoon is probably open.

Also, when is the Fark meet up at the Yankee Doodle Tap Room?


I was always particular to Halo pub,  especially since my scout troop used to sell Christmas trees in the lot behind Nassau inn, and we would send the younger scouts across the street to fetch us hot chocolate on cold evenings.

My favorite Local character is(was?) Teddy Roosevelt, a re-enactor who would dress up in full Calvary outfit for all of the parades in town, but would also walk around town on regular days in costume and semi in character.

And thank you for saying Tap Room,  everyone who visits want's to go to Triumph Brewery,  which has good beer,  but is very overpriced and stuffy.
 
2013-02-27 03:59:38 PM  

TommyJReed: Rude Turnip: Xcott: Rude Turnip: Yup, that's him! I don't work downtown, so I don't get the full spectrum of characters. A strange man did start talking to me on Nassau Street when a bunch of us got ice cream.

Are you talking about the Bent Spoon?  Is it still open?

Thomas Sweet on Nassau Street. Bent Spoon is way too expensive for that puny little cup they give you. Bent Spoon is probably open.

Also, when is the Fark meet up at the Yankee Doodle Tap Room?

I was always particular to Halo pub,  especially since my scout troop used to sell Christmas trees in the lot behind Nassau inn, and we would send the younger scouts across the street to fetch us hot chocolate on cold evenings.

My favorite Local character is(was?) Teddy Roosevelt, a re-enactor who would dress up in full Calvary outfit for all of the parades in town, but would also walk around town on regular days in costume and semi in character.

And thank you for saying Tap Room,  everyone who visits want's to go to Triumph Brewery,  which has good beer,  but is very overpriced and stuffy.


Triumph is only fun if you go to the one in New Hope, because then you get to watch the steam engine train go by.
 
2013-02-27 04:21:16 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: [www.opposingviews.com image 301x251]

Careful. There are scuba divers in there.


Shhhhhh...They are dredging for gold

dsc.discovery.com

"I heard that there's gold in these houses"
 
2013-02-27 11:14:39 PM  
so let me see--they are tearing the houses down to make a station for the dinky?

if that't the case, what are they thinking.
 
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