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2013-02-27 11:06:57 AM  
2 votes:
So to recap, in the NFL:

-- Alleged murderer who was plea bargained down to not being charged: OK!
-- Dog killer who strangled and electrocuted dozens of animals for profit: OK!
-- potentially gay draft pick: NO
2013-02-27 09:16:10 AM  
2 votes:

Generation_D: Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.


As the local afternoon radio host (Joe Ovies, 99.9 The Fan for those of you in the Triangle) said, "Sports is that last corner of society where 'There's no gay people, at all.'  And that exists for a variety of reasons, and one day a lot of people are going to get a very rude awakening."

I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.
2013-02-27 07:47:07 AM  
2 votes:
There are better questions for finding out.

"Do you like movies about gladiators?"

"Have you ever seen a grown man naked?"
2013-02-27 03:40:20 PM  
1 votes:

mikaloyd: Khellendros: mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.

You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?

News flash - being openly hetero/gay/etc doesn't mean you're performing a sex act.

How do you see openly gay in a locker room then? is there a tattoo or something?


Are you being intentionally dense, or just a troll?

Talking about their significant others, making jokes about the guys they pick up, being able to say simple things like "gotta go, my guy's waiting on me".  You know, the conversations and off-handed remarks that heterosexual people make regularly, and without a second thought.  Being able to be open an honest about a relatively simple and normal thing in their life that currently gets vilified or attacked whenever it comes up.  Instead, they have to hide it, lie about it, and cover it up.  If they don't, they risk being ostracized.

It's a goddamned federal case whenever someone brings up that an NFL player MIGHT POSSIBLY be homosexual.  Like they're some sort of criminal.  And the paranoid behavior is reinforced and allowed by the league.  It's BS, and they should take greater efforts to change a culture of ignorance and stupidity.
2013-02-27 01:11:27 PM  
1 votes:

A Fark Handle: so you're a farking tard.  thanks for clarifying that for us.  it's not a valid question.  just like i don't question why your wife is cheating on you, you shouldn't question other adults do behind closed doors.  you don't have to believe a thing, just let them be.  do you worry about women in the office thinking about your small cock?  is that unwelcomed too?  what if it's the fat ugly chick with the lazy eye?


while that was all "find the ointment, you just got burned' worth stuff, I'm pretty sure he's trollin.
2013-02-27 12:49:25 PM  
1 votes:

meanmutton: A Fark Handle: IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.

i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.

Actually, they can do it because the NFLPA says they can. The only way a draft is even remotely legal is because it was bargained with the union.


yes, i realize this, but it still doesn't make it right.
2013-02-27 12:45:56 PM  
1 votes:

mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.

You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?


News flash - being openly hetero/gay/etc doesn't mean you're performing a sex act.
2013-02-27 12:14:00 PM  
1 votes:
With all the character issues among NFL players, who is getting shiat on his dick should be the least concerning.
2013-02-27 12:05:47 PM  
1 votes:

Sergeant Crash: sure, stuff gets "leaked".... but to actually go out on a radio interview and spill the beans about something like this nature-- (when I'm sure people will be calling for an investigation on "which teams asked that") is not going to bode well from a PR stand-point with this guy. 

Radio Host:  "What kind of questions did they ask you in the interview?"
Player:  "A wide range of interviews questions-- from football to personal life.  But the specific questions are between me and the team, and I hope I impressed them with all of my answers."

2013-02-27 11:34:41 AM  
1 votes:

LarryDan43: Generation_D: Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.

// NFL fan

// LOLzing at this whole ridiculous scenario. Teo ran a 4.8, there's reason enough right there to skip on drafting him.

The owners are a bunch of Republicans.


Well, except for the owners of the Falcons, Ravens, Bills, Colts, Vikings, Patriots, Giants, Eagles, Steelers, Rams, and Lions who are long-time, active Democrats.
2013-02-27 11:25:23 AM  
1 votes:

Khellendros: That's accurate for asking directly if he's gay



"Hey Manti.  Great interview, I like how you diagrammed the 4-3 and 3-4 schemes for a mobile QB and you've shown impressive pass coverage and your read/recognition of the option is great.  Just to finish up, couple questions for ya:

Do you like Coldplay?

Manolo Blahnik or Kate Spade?

Ruching on a pencil dress;  sashay shontae, or hot mess?"

SATC question:  are you more Carrie, Samantha, Charlotte, or Miranda?"
2013-02-27 11:23:18 AM  
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: I'm pretty sure that it was ever found out that a team passed on a player because they thought he was gay, that team, and possibly the NFL in general, would find themselves in one hell of a discrimination lawsuit. You're talking about punishments for potentially lost career salaries on the NFL level. In short, they are absolute idiots for asking in the first place, because now they can't claim ignorance, and I'm surprised their lawyers let them ask.


You do know that it's perfectly legal in the majority of states to deny employment based on sexual orientation, right?
2013-02-27 10:40:02 AM  
1 votes:
it is unfortunate but i recognize why, in that environment/culture, people (meaning players and coaches) would care.  or stated differently, believe that sexual orientation was relevant.  one example (of dozens):  a few weeks ago on Jay Mohr Sports, former FSU QB Chris Rix went on the show, nationally syndicated in like, 150 markets, and did the "I'm not saying Darnell Dockett was gay, I'm just saying people wondered if he was gay.  I'm not saying he is, I'm just saying, maybe he is."

the next day, Nine Oh's Twitter was blowed the fark up with threats to kick Rix' ass, and a teammate of both Rix and Nine Oh called in and went off on Rix (and denied that Nine Oh was gay).  It was silly, big picture, but in that hypermacho environment, to those folks, sexual orientation matters.
2013-02-27 10:37:27 AM  
1 votes:

Khellendros: Mateorocks: Considering that every NFL team is about to make a handful of twentysomethings filthy stinking rich, I think they have a right to ask any damn question they want. Certainly more than one question is going to be related to team chemistry, which is what I think they are going for here.

They can't ask you or I that for an entry level office job, why should they be able to ask that at this specific job?  The amount of money is irrelevant.  It's called employment law, and sports leagues use every trick they can to dodge it.  In this case, it's being used to foster an environment of intolerance and homophobia.


Though I am loathe to link to a Yahoo story, it's really about state employment laws:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--can-nfl-teams-ask-manti-te-o-if-he -s -gay--depends-on-which-teams-are-doing-the-asking-024157625.html
2013-02-27 10:34:06 AM  
1 votes:

IAmRight: Disaster Transport: If a team really wants to know if you're going to have a negative impact on locker room chemistry, the question should not be "do you like girls" but "do you hate homosexuals". Or just cover all the bases and ask "are there any minority groups or specific religions you cannot tolerate, based on personal belief".

You don't want to ask questions where the answers are obvious and easy to coach. So really, that would be a much, much worse question.


I would say the "correct" answer to both questions are easily coached.  However, when you ask someone if they like girls the implication is, "We ain't hirin' no gays!".  The implication with Disaster's question is, "You better check your prejudices at the door while you work for us."
2013-02-27 10:28:10 AM  
1 votes:

Disaster Transport: If a team really wants to know if you're going to have a negative impact on locker room chemistry, the question should not be "do you like girls" but "do you hate homosexuals". Or just cover all the bases and ask "are there any minority groups or specific religions you cannot tolerate, based on personal belief".

It is really disturbing to me that teams are willing to protect the ignorant under the ruse of "team chemistry".


Well, to be fair, they might also be protecting the ignorance of the owner or coaching staff.
2013-02-27 10:26:51 AM  
1 votes:
If a team really wants to know if you're going to have a negative impact on locker room chemistry, the question should not be "do you like girls" but "do you hate homosexuals". Or just cover all the bases and ask "are there any minority groups or specific religions you cannot tolerate, based on personal belief".

It is really disturbing to me that teams are willing to protect the ignorant under the ruse of "team chemistry".
2013-02-27 10:21:06 AM  
1 votes:

IAmRight: thecpt: for the record, if during an interview I was asked "how would you change your waggle route if you recognize that its cover 2" I would want to work for that company no matter what.

I'd like to run an office combine.


i'm still waiting for an office linebacker

/you kill the jo', you make some mo'!
2013-02-27 10:20:17 AM  
1 votes:

Mateorocks: Considering that every NFL team is about to make a handful of twentysomethings filthy stinking rich, I think they have a right to ask any damn question they want. Certainly more than one question is going to be related to team chemistry, which is what I think they are going for here.


They can't ask you or I that for an entry level office job, why should they be able to ask that at this specific job?  The amount of money is irrelevant.  It's called employment law, and sports leagues use every trick they can to dodge it.  In this case, it's being used to foster an environment of intolerance and homophobia.
2013-02-27 10:19:32 AM  
1 votes:

Generation_D: Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.

// NFL fan

// LOLzing at this whole ridiculous scenario. Teo ran a 4.8, there's reason enough right there to skip on drafting him.


The owners are a bunch of Republicans.
2013-02-27 10:18:45 AM  
1 votes:
It's the NFL. If you're a linebacker who can run a 4.1 40 and bench-press 300 pounds 75 times you're getting drafted even if you took a break during the Wonderlic to dance shirtless in a cage with Ricky Martin at a Liza Minelli concert.
2013-02-27 10:18:02 AM  
1 votes:

IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.


i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.
2013-02-27 10:02:24 AM  
1 votes:

IAmRight: Yes, they're asking those questions specifically because the NFL locker room is so anti-gay. Not because the wife/girlfriend question brings up other issues - if you have a wife/committed girlfriend, then the team also wants to make arrangements to keep her happy with where she's going to be living for the next few years, if they're doing it right. Similarly, the last question could be to gauge a reaction - you could be weeding out people that are super-offended that you'd even ask.

But no, let's all immediately assume whatever fits in with our preconceived notions, like Mike Florio!

Then let's reprint the negative quote from one idiot football player and ignore how huge the backlash was against him, that several players and coaches within the team and throughout the NFL not only harshly criticized the comments, but have been in support of gay rights.


let's not pretend there isn't a significant segment of the nfl that homophobic.  after all, there are a lot of black and openly religious players in the league. do you want to guess the average position on gay marriage of a black church is (especially pre-obama saying shiat)?  i'll let the prop 8 exit polls answer that for you.

also, from what i've heard the it's not all the entire nfl is anti-gay, and there have been players who were open to some of their teammates/coaches (if not the public).  granted their partner was looked/acted just like one of their "boys" in public to conceal it.  but it's tarded that they are asking.  well, unless they are looking for the first player to come out because they realize what a marketing tool that could be.

it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

/here's where someone tells me i shouldn't make generalization about others who are making generalizations.
2013-02-27 09:59:16 AM  
1 votes:

bacongood: Am I only one that thinks there have probably been numerous players out within teams who just wanted to focus on football and not be "the gay football player" so they and their teammates just kept it quiet?


Based on what other players have said, pretty much everyone knows who is and who isn't. Virtually no one cares.
2013-02-27 09:42:13 AM  
1 votes:
Honest question.  If players are uncomfortable with sharing a locker room with gay men, do their needs have to be accommodated with a separate locker room for themselves?  And if a team started doing it for their players, could the gay men sue for any reason?


not saying its a smart idea, or even legal.  But if someone was openly gay in the NFL and 90% of the team was cool with it, would you want to give a holes like culliver somewhere to go and ostracize them on their own accord?
2013-02-27 09:41:41 AM  
1 votes:

UNC_Samurai: "Sports is that last corner of society where 'There's no gay people, at all.'


Professional sports, maybe.  I was on a college team in undergrad and had a couple of openly gay teammates.  No one cared.
2013-02-27 09:24:53 AM  
1 votes:

Generation_D: Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.


I have a feeling they are a bunch of Republicans.
2013-02-27 09:21:05 AM  
1 votes:
If you can play, you can play.

Hockey has embraced this. It's your turn now NFL.
2013-02-27 09:17:16 AM  
1 votes:

UNC_Samurai: Sports is that last corner of society where 'There's no gay people, at all.'


Well, that and Iran
2013-02-27 09:11:48 AM  
1 votes:
Jesus H. Christ, even our military stopped doing that.
2013-02-27 08:41:32 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Just say "Clang, clang, clang" and see how he reacts.


Went the trolley, ding ding ding went the bell....HEY WTF?!
2013-02-27 08:00:21 AM  
1 votes:

Generation_D: Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.

// NFL fan

// LOLzing at this whole ridiculous scenario. Teo ran a 4.8, there's reason enough right there to skip on drafting him.


Oh, I think he'll be drafted. Just not until the later rounds. Some team's going to want the name recognition.
2013-02-27 07:37:49 AM  
1 votes:
Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.

// NFL fan

// LOLzing at this whole ridiculous scenario. Teo ran a 4.8, there's reason enough right there to skip on drafting him.
2013-02-27 04:43:28 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: FTA:"[Teams] ask you like, 'Do you have a girlfriend?' Are you married?'Do you like girls?'" Kasa told CJ and Kreckman of ESPN Radio Denver on Tuesday. "Those kinds of things, and you know it was just kind of weird. But they would ask you with a straight face, and it's a pretty weird experience altogether."The comments come a day after Mike Florio of NBC Sports and ProFootballTalk told radio host Dan Patrick that NFL teams were extremely curious about the sexual orientation of Notre Dame's Manti Te'o.


LOL

NFL teams should be more curious about his ability to get off of blocks at the next level.
 
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