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2013-02-27 10:37:27 AM

Khellendros: Mateorocks: Considering that every NFL team is about to make a handful of twentysomethings filthy stinking rich, I think they have a right to ask any damn question they want. Certainly more than one question is going to be related to team chemistry, which is what I think they are going for here.

They can't ask you or I that for an entry level office job, why should they be able to ask that at this specific job?  The amount of money is irrelevant.  It's called employment law, and sports leagues use every trick they can to dodge it.  In this case, it's being used to foster an environment of intolerance and homophobia.


Though I am loathe to link to a Yahoo story, it's really about state employment laws:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--can-nfl-teams-ask-manti-te-o-if-he -s -gay--depends-on-which-teams-are-doing-the-asking-024157625.html
 
2013-02-27 10:37:43 AM

A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview


In 20 states, it's illegal to ask about sexual orientation during job interviews. Indiana (where the combine takes place) isn't one of those states,  but depending on which team was asking the question, they may be subject to their own state laws.

Also, although it's not illegal to ask about marital status, it's considered evidence of intent to discriminate under the Civil Rights Act.
 
2013-02-27 10:40:02 AM
it is unfortunate but i recognize why, in that environment/culture, people (meaning players and coaches) would care.  or stated differently, believe that sexual orientation was relevant.  one example (of dozens):  a few weeks ago on Jay Mohr Sports, former FSU QB Chris Rix went on the show, nationally syndicated in like, 150 markets, and did the "I'm not saying Darnell Dockett was gay, I'm just saying people wondered if he was gay.  I'm not saying he is, I'm just saying, maybe he is."

the next day, Nine Oh's Twitter was blowed the fark up with threats to kick Rix' ass, and a teammate of both Rix and Nine Oh called in and went off on Rix (and denied that Nine Oh was gay).  It was silly, big picture, but in that hypermacho environment, to those folks, sexual orientation matters.
 
2013-02-27 10:41:48 AM

Mercutio74: I would say the "correct" answer to both questions are easily coached.


It feels like none of you people have ever heard the expression "give 'em enough rope to hang themselves." You lead with a statement-type question like DT posted, you're basically putting them on guard for the whole interview. You have questions that are questionable only to people that already are more receptive to homosexuals, you make homophobes comfortable in the whole thing and you can get them to divulge more.

Basically, only an idiot would take one question out of a 15-30 minute interview and claim it's indicative of anything. You need the whole interview and context.

But really, no one's interested in context these days. Let's just all turn everything into oppressors vs. the righteous!
 
2013-02-27 10:47:51 AM

rickythepenguin: "I'm not saying Darnell Dockett was gay, I'm just saying people wondered if he was gay.  I'm not saying he is, I'm just saying, maybe he is."

the next day, Nine Oh's Twitter was blowed the fark up with threats to kick Rix' ass, and a teammate of both Rix and Nine Oh called in and went off on Rix (and denied that Nine Oh was gay).  It was silly, big picture, but in that hypermacho environment, to those folks, sexual orientation matters.


Rix is clearly pretty much a piece of sh*t for even speculating on it, and deserves to get his ass kicked.

I have an idea - let's stop talking about everyone's sex lives. I'm perfectly cool with never hearing about any athlete's wife, girlfriend, husband, or boyfriend. I could really do without, specifically, Patriots fans responding to everyone making fun of a Brady loss with "now he'll bang his supermodel wife" like they actually get enjoyment basking in that reflected glory. You're not banging her, no one cares if the QB is. We care that your team lost and it's great because your fans are often insufferable douchebags.

/I'm sure other fanbases do it, but Patriots fans are the people most likely to discuss their imagination of their QB's sex life.
 
2013-02-27 11:06:57 AM
So to recap, in the NFL:

-- Alleged murderer who was plea bargained down to not being charged: OK!
-- Dog killer who strangled and electrocuted dozens of animals for profit: OK!
-- potentially gay draft pick: NO
 
2013-02-27 11:11:37 AM

Generation_D: So to recap, in the NFL:

-- Alleged murderer who was plea bargained down to not being charged: OK!
-- Dog killer who strangled and electrocuted dozens of animals for profit: OK!
-- potentially gay draft pick: NO


yeah, that was peter king's column monday.  i don't think he referneced Ray-Ray or 7, but he mentioned something like, Teo's presser was nuts to butts, 45 minutes, whereas some guy that i think got a DUI and had marijuana on him just days ago, had like a 7 minute presser with a dozen guys.  WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE
 
2013-02-27 11:14:40 AM

Mateorocks: Khellendros: Mateorocks: Considering that every NFL team is about to make a handful of twentysomethings filthy stinking rich, I think they have a right to ask any damn question they want. Certainly more than one question is going to be related to team chemistry, which is what I think they are going for here.

They can't ask you or I that for an entry level office job, why should they be able to ask that at this specific job?  The amount of money is irrelevant.  It's called employment law, and sports leagues use every trick they can to dodge it.  In this case, it's being used to foster an environment of intolerance and homophobia.

Though I am loathe to link to a Yahoo story, it's really about state employment laws:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--can-nfl-teams-ask-manti-te-o-if-he -s -gay--depends-on-which-teams-are-doing-the-asking-024157625.html


That's accurate for asking directly if he's gay.  However, asking questions about whether you're married, have kids, etc, is covered under federal laws.  If they're trying to dodge the state law on asking if he's homosexual, they might find themselves falling face-first into a federal issue if they try to get into items like marital status as a proxy.
 
2013-02-27 11:15:41 AM

Generation_D: -- potentially gay draft pick: NO


No one has said that except people creating their own story out of their own heads based on their own stereotypes.

rickythepenguin: i don't think he referneced Ray-Ray or 7, but he mentioned something like, Teo's presser was nuts to butts, 45 minutes, whereas some guy that i think got a DUI and had marijuana on him just days ago, had like a 7 minute presser with a dozen guys.  WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE


Yeah, there are no other reasons for Te'o's press conference to be well-attended, while "some guy"'s conference would not have many.
 
2013-02-27 11:23:18 AM

Lost Thought 00: I'm pretty sure that it was ever found out that a team passed on a player because they thought he was gay, that team, and possibly the NFL in general, would find themselves in one hell of a discrimination lawsuit. You're talking about punishments for potentially lost career salaries on the NFL level. In short, they are absolute idiots for asking in the first place, because now they can't claim ignorance, and I'm surprised their lawyers let them ask.


You do know that it's perfectly legal in the majority of states to deny employment based on sexual orientation, right?
 
2013-02-27 11:25:23 AM

Khellendros: That's accurate for asking directly if he's gay



"Hey Manti.  Great interview, I like how you diagrammed the 4-3 and 3-4 schemes for a mobile QB and you've shown impressive pass coverage and your read/recognition of the option is great.  Just to finish up, couple questions for ya:

Do you like Coldplay?

Manolo Blahnik or Kate Spade?

Ruching on a pencil dress;  sashay shontae, or hot mess?"

SATC question:  are you more Carrie, Samantha, Charlotte, or Miranda?"
 
2013-02-27 11:28:07 AM

A Fark Handle: IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.

i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.


Actually, they can do it because the NFLPA says they can. The only way a draft is even remotely legal is because it was bargained with the union.
 
2013-02-27 11:34:41 AM

LarryDan43: Generation_D: Jumping jesus H, NFL, join the 21st century. You sound like a bunch of Republicans.

// NFL fan

// LOLzing at this whole ridiculous scenario. Teo ran a 4.8, there's reason enough right there to skip on drafting him.

The owners are a bunch of Republicans.


Well, except for the owners of the Falcons, Ravens, Bills, Colts, Vikings, Patriots, Giants, Eagles, Steelers, Rams, and Lions who are long-time, active Democrats.
 
2013-02-27 11:36:45 AM

meanmutton: Steelers


i think last off-season, Ambassador Rooney was chirping about hosting an NFL game in Dublin.

/'Izzat a feckin' touchdown, ye steamin' skanger?"
 
2013-02-27 11:49:46 AM
Well, one thing is for sure.... if a team wants things that are said in the locker room to stay in the locker room, Nick Kasa should not be drafted to their team.

/they asked me if I liked girls... I better tell the media that one when they interview me!

//say goodbye to the chance of being drafted by the Saints
 
2013-02-27 11:53:57 AM

Sergeant Crash: Well, one thing is for sure.... if a team wants things that are said in the locker room to stay in the locker room, Nick Kasa should not be drafted to their team.



pffft.  stuff gets leaked all the time.  vince young's wonderlic, "is your mom a prostitute?" for example.
 
2013-02-27 12:04:51 PM
sure, stuff gets "leaked".... but to actually go out on a radio interview and spill the beans about something like this nature-- (when I'm sure people will be calling for an investigation on "which teams asked that") is not going to bode well from a PR stand-point with this guy. 

Radio Host:  "What kind of questions did they ask you in the interview?"
Player:  "A wide range of interviews-- from football to personal life.  But the specific questions are between me and the team, and I hope I impressed them with all of my answers."
 
2013-02-27 12:05:47 PM

Sergeant Crash: sure, stuff gets "leaked".... but to actually go out on a radio interview and spill the beans about something like this nature-- (when I'm sure people will be calling for an investigation on "which teams asked that") is not going to bode well from a PR stand-point with this guy. 

Radio Host:  "What kind of questions did they ask you in the interview?"
Player:  "A wide range of interviews questions-- from football to personal life.  But the specific questions are between me and the team, and I hope I impressed them with all of my answers."

 
2013-02-27 12:11:35 PM
Just show them Gronk's porno and see if he's watching the receiver or the TE.
 
2013-02-27 12:12:33 PM

roc6783: Just show them him Gronk's porno and see if he's watching the receiver or the TE.


//For shame...for shame.
 
2013-02-27 12:14:00 PM
With all the character issues among NFL players, who is getting shiat on his dick should be the least concerning.
 
2013-02-27 12:14:29 PM

UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.


You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?
 
2013-02-27 12:45:56 PM

mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.

You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?


News flash - being openly hetero/gay/etc doesn't mean you're performing a sex act.
 
2013-02-27 12:46:01 PM

Sergeant Crash: sure, stuff gets "leaked".... but to actually go out on a radio interview and spill the beans about something like this nature-- (when I'm sure people will be calling for an investigation on "which teams asked that") is not going to bode well from a PR stand-point with this guy. 

Radio Host:  "What kind of questions did they ask you in the interview?"
Player:  "A wide range of interviews-- from football to personal life.  But the specific questions are between me and the team, and I hope I impressed them with all of my answers."


Maybe he cares more about principles than his own personal interests?

/plus, it may increase his stock with some other teams
 
2013-02-27 12:49:25 PM

meanmutton: A Fark Handle: IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.

i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.

Actually, they can do it because the NFLPA says they can. The only way a draft is even remotely legal is because it was bargained with the union.


yes, i realize this, but it still doesn't make it right.
 
2013-02-27 12:59:41 PM

A Fark Handle: meanmutton: A Fark Handle: IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.

i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.

Actually, they can do it because the NFLPA says they can. The only way a draft is even remotely legal is because it was bargained with the union.

yes, i realize this, but it still doesn't make it right.


not everyone likes gay people.  it's kind of gross/weird.  Anal sex is gross/weird in general.  Having a dude in the locker room possibly thinking about your crank or wondering what your spooge tastes like is weir/gross/unwelcomed too.  Maybe dude is in a relationship, maybe he's a male slut.

It's a valid question.  The idea that we HAVE to accept and tolerate something so unnatural is foolish.  The real biggots are gay people and the rather confused 'progressive' supporters.  How the hell are you going to tell me what I have to believe?  Isn't that supposedly what you're mad about?  Talk about a hypocrite.
 
2013-02-27 01:00:14 PM

Sergeant Crash: Well, one thing is for sure.... if a team wants things that are said in the locker room to stay in the locker room, Nick Kasa should not be drafted to their team.

/they asked me if I liked girls... I better tell the media that one when they interview me!

//say goodbye to the chance of being drafted by the Saints


There's absolutely nothing sacred or to be kept "in-house" regarding such a broad interview process. Now, if he actually disclosed specific teams/personnel who asked these questions...
 
2013-02-27 01:05:09 PM

Killer Cars: There's absolutely nothing sacred or to be kept "in-house" regarding such a broad interview process. Now, if he actually disclosed specific teams/personnel who asked these questions...


This. If he'd named names, it would be an issue. But if you just say "teams asked..." then it's no biggie. Just like it's fine for people to say "I know I've had gay teammates," but Chris Rix is a dumbf*ck for implying that a specific player was gay.
 
2013-02-27 01:07:51 PM

TiiiMMMaHHH: A Fark Handle: meanmutton: A Fark Handle: IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.

i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.

Actually, they can do it because the NFLPA says they can. The only way a draft is even remotely legal is because it was bargained with the union.

yes, i realize this, but it still doesn't make it right.

not everyone likes gay people.  it's kind of gross/weird.  Anal sex is gross/weird in general.  Having a dude in the locker room possibly thinking about your crank or wondering what your spooge tastes like is weir/gross/unwelcomed too.  Maybe dude is in a relationship, maybe he's a male slut.

It's a valid question.  The idea that we HAVE to accept and tolerate something so unnatural is foolish.  The real biggots are gay people and the rather confused 'progressive' supporters.  How the hell are you going to tell me what I have to believe?  Isn't that supposedly what you're mad about?  Talk about a hypocrite.


so you're a farking tard.  thanks for clarifying that for us.  it's not a valid question.  just like i don't question why your wife is cheating on you, you shouldn't question other adults do behind closed doors.  you don't have to believe a thing, just let them be.  do you worry about women in the office thinking about your small cock?  is that unwelcomed too?  what if it's the fat ugly chick with the lazy eye?
 
2013-02-27 01:11:27 PM

A Fark Handle: so you're a farking tard.  thanks for clarifying that for us.  it's not a valid question.  just like i don't question why your wife is cheating on you, you shouldn't question other adults do behind closed doors.  you don't have to believe a thing, just let them be.  do you worry about women in the office thinking about your small cock?  is that unwelcomed too?  what if it's the fat ugly chick with the lazy eye?


while that was all "find the ointment, you just got burned' worth stuff, I'm pretty sure he's trollin.
 
2013-02-27 01:12:00 PM

IAmRight: but Chris Rix is a dumbf*ck for implying that a specific player was gay.


Yeah...if you want to "joke" about something like that, you better damn well have prior permission to even go down the road from the 6'4, 290lb target.

/I haven't listened to the audio yet, but via text transcript of Rix's exchange on Mohr's show...it seems more like a straight up accusation than anything playful.
 
2013-02-27 01:14:50 PM

thecpt: A Fark Handle: so you're a farking tard.  thanks for clarifying that for us.  it's not a valid question.  just like i don't question why your wife is cheating on you, you shouldn't question other adults do behind closed doors.  you don't have to believe a thing, just let them be.  do you worry about women in the office thinking about your small cock?  is that unwelcomed too?  what if it's the fat ugly chick with the lazy eye?

while that was all "find the ointment, you just got burned' worth stuff, I'm pretty sure he's trollin.


yeah, probably and i hope so.  but i'm bored and felt like responding for my own entertainment.
 
2013-02-27 01:25:51 PM

A Fark Handle: yeah, probably and i hope so.  but i'm bored and felt like responding for my own entertainment.


I can respect that.  Well as I said before, it was entertaining
 
2013-02-27 01:28:31 PM

Killer Cars: /I haven't listened to the audio yet, but via text transcript of Rix's exchange on Mohr's show...it seems more like a straight up accusation than anything playful.



the weird thing is it came out of nowhere.Slam was taking a poke at the then-current story about Nine Oh twittering to that SEC QB's girlfriend, and then Rix calls in out of the blue to start clicking his damn teeth about Nine Oh. Slam tried to save him from himself -- "are you SURE you want to say this?" -- but Rix kept running his damn mouth.  it was bizarre.

rix says something like, "people would ask, 'why is Nine Oh always at so-and-so's dorm?'  How come he isn't hanging out with the fellas?  He's always with so-and-so.'  that's why people wondered about his preferences that way."

and the next day when the other teammate called in to (a) defend Nine Oh and (b) destroy Rix, I thought he was standup in saying, "who cares anyways?"

farking idiot.  yeah, "CB Assassin*", real smart to start throwing smack at a 6'5" 290lb force of nature with a known history of acting the fool.

*or whatever his stupid business cards said
 
2013-02-27 01:31:31 PM
the problemisn't that he could be gay.

the problemis that he covered up the fakegirlfriend thing  with a ton of inconsistencies that aren't wiped awayby a smokescreen presser.

and hetan a slow 40.
 
2013-02-27 02:24:47 PM
It is legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation in Oklahoma.

I know this because my brother-in-law isn't all the way out of the closet and he's 40.   He is afraid someone at his job will find out and he will get fired.
 
2013-02-27 02:27:20 PM
hollywoodcrush.mtv.com
 
2013-02-27 02:31:28 PM

rickythepenguin: Teo's presser was nuts to butts


you just had to, didn't you?
 
2013-02-27 02:33:27 PM

SlothB77: you just had to, didn't you?


it was unintentional, i swear!   i was trying to convey it was packed. you know.  their shiat was packed.

(paging dr. freud....)
 
2013-02-27 02:36:48 PM

Khellendros: mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.

You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?

News flash - being openly hetero/gay/etc doesn't mean you're performing a sex act.


How do you see openly gay in a locker room then? is there a tattoo or something?
 
2013-02-27 03:39:06 PM

mikaloyd: Khellendros: mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.

You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?

News flash - being openly hetero/gay/etc doesn't mean you're performing a sex act.

How do you see openly gay in a locker room then? is there a tattoo or something?


I know there's a lot of snark in your post, but no active NFL player has publicly disclosed being gay - there's a couple of retired players who have, but it's a lot easier to come out when you're no longer in that locker room every day.
 
2013-02-27 03:40:20 PM

mikaloyd: Khellendros: mikaloyd: UNC_Samurai: I hope that we see the day soon where a player can be openly gay in the locker room.

You want to see them blowing eachother in the locker room?

News flash - being openly hetero/gay/etc doesn't mean you're performing a sex act.

How do you see openly gay in a locker room then? is there a tattoo or something?


Are you being intentionally dense, or just a troll?

Talking about their significant others, making jokes about the guys they pick up, being able to say simple things like "gotta go, my guy's waiting on me".  You know, the conversations and off-handed remarks that heterosexual people make regularly, and without a second thought.  Being able to be open an honest about a relatively simple and normal thing in their life that currently gets vilified or attacked whenever it comes up.  Instead, they have to hide it, lie about it, and cover it up.  If they don't, they risk being ostracized.

It's a goddamned federal case whenever someone brings up that an NFL player MIGHT POSSIBLY be homosexual.  Like they're some sort of criminal.  And the paranoid behavior is reinforced and allowed by the league.  It's BS, and they should take greater efforts to change a culture of ignorance and stupidity.
 
2013-02-27 03:43:27 PM
and if he says yes, it's a good way to weed out the gay ones.

/I like "Girls"
//no homo
 
2013-02-27 04:06:34 PM

Khellendros: Are you being intentionally dense, or just a troll?


You call a lot of names. Does that help ?
 
2013-02-27 04:10:23 PM

SkylineRecords: Jesus H. Christ, even our military stopped doing that.


And, there it is.
 
2013-02-27 04:39:42 PM
It seems that the NFL is so far behind the times, they are now less tolerant than fraternities.
 
2013-02-27 05:09:39 PM

mikaloyd: Khellendros: Are you being intentionally dense, or just a troll?

You call a lot of names. Does that help ?


Help what?  I'm still curious as to whether you're trolling, or just that painfully ignorant of what being "openly gay" means.  My guess at this point is that you're trolling, but there's always the chance you actually don't understand the issue, and chose instead to suck on paint chips after breakfast.  But conventional wisdom says to never attribute malice to actions that are more easily explained by ignorance, so I'll reserve judgement.
 
2013-02-27 05:43:53 PM

A Fark Handle: TiiiMMMaHHH: A Fark Handle: meanmutton: A Fark Handle: IAmRight: A Fark Handle: it's not cool to even ask such things during a job interview

There are a lot of things that the NFL can do that you're not allowed to ask in a job interview.

i realize they do, but it doesn't make it right.  just because the rich and powerful can be assholes, doesn't mean they should.

Actually, they can do it because the NFLPA says they can. The only way a draft is even remotely legal is because it was bargained with the union.

yes, i realize this, but it still doesn't make it right.

not everyone likes gay people.  it's kind of gross/weird.  Anal sex is gross/weird in general.  Having a dude in the locker room possibly thinking about your crank or wondering what your spooge tastes like is weir/gross/unwelcomed too.  Maybe dude is in a relationship, maybe he's a male slut.

It's a valid question.  The idea that we HAVE to accept and tolerate something so unnatural is foolish.  The real biggots are gay people and the rather confused 'progressive' supporters.  How the hell are you going to tell me what I have to believe?  Isn't that supposedly what you're mad about?  Talk about a hypocrite.

so you're a farking tard.  thanks for clarifying that for us.  it's not a valid question.  just like i don't question why your wife is cheating on you, you shouldn't question other adults do behind closed doors.  you don't have to believe a thing, just let them be.  do you worry about women in the office thinking about your small cock?  is that unwelcomed too?  what if it's the fat ugly chick with the lazy eye?


Wow.  Look at all of that hatespeak.  And you are an advocate for teh ghey?  That's like the lorax wearing trufula tree-based underwear.  Just because you don't like my orientation on orientation, you don't have to lambast me with all of that hatespeak.  It's as if you are a hateful person, who just happens to have a soft spot for the ghey.  But don't worry, almost all sympathizers who think they are kind and have a heart are as selective as you.
 
2013-02-27 05:48:07 PM

Khellendros: mikaloyd: Khellendros: Are you being intentionally dense, or just a troll?

You call a lot of names. Does that help ?

Help what?  I'm still curious as to whether you're trolling, or just that painfully ignorant of what being "openly gay" means.  My guess at this point is that you're trolling, but there's always the chance you actually don't understand the issue, and chose instead to suck on paint chips after breakfast.  But conventional wisdom says to never attribute malice to actions that are more easily explained by ignorance, so I'll reserve judgement.


quite ironic for someone who spouts so much malice.  But ignorance is a mofo, how do you know what you don't know?  Oh, and BTW, you haven't reserved judgement, not at all.  Does it make you feel good to say you've reserved judgement?  Because you look like quite an ignorant hypocrite from here.  And I use the words ignorant and hypocrite in terms of their webster definitions, not as hateful language masqueraded as intelligence.

/I've always been amazed at the hateful nature of human right's supporters.  Could it be that humans are just evil, no matter who we advocate for?
//and (troll) scene.
///I know you can't come to terms with the blazing light of truth Ive shown upon you.  You'd have to kill yourself if you really got what I'm saying.
 
2013-02-27 06:10:31 PM

Khellendros: mikaloyd: Khellendros: Are you being intentionally dense, or just a troll?

You call a lot of names. Does that help ?

Help what?  I'm still curious as to whether you're trolling, or just that painfully ignorant of what being "openly gay" means.  My guess at this point is that you're trolling, but there's always the chance you actually don't understand the issue, and chose instead to suck on paint chips after breakfast.  But conventional wisdom says to never attribute malice to actions that are more easily explained by ignorance, so I'll reserve judgement.


Help the cause you are advocating.
 
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