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2013-02-27 11:04:40 AM
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Amazing stuff...they're adopting the majority position in hopes of winning more elections. Totally not a callous vote grab at all. See also: immigration.

And just think, in 20 years Republicans will claim they were always the party that supported equality and homosexual rights.
2013-02-27 11:00:01 AM
2 votes:
Oddly enough, this is a direct result of the rise of the tea party.

As the baggers' power wanes, moderate Republicans will have to move to the center* in order to further deny the baggers any sort of victory or clout.  They don't really care about gay marriage, but they do care about losing power, especially to evangelical nutballs and racist pukes.

* "center" being the center between American liberals and conservatives, not any rational view of a real center position.
2013-02-27 10:34:48 AM
2 votes:
It should be a Republican issue. Letting the Religious Right hijack things has cost the party a great deal, and for the party of Lincoln to seek to limit rights, and to strike out against religious freedom is simply put: shameful.

It is a matter of equality under the law, and a matter of religious freedom. Two issues that are fairly cut and dried. Don't want to marry someone? Don't. Your church doesn't want to perform a ceremony? Then don't. But never mind what other folks are doing, plain and simple. Your marriage isn't affected in the least by anyone else's, and as a matter of privacy, it shouldn't matter to you either.

Republicans should be at the forefront on this issue, if they want to have any credibility on matters of privacy, religious freedom, and equality, and that so many bring up specious arguments that, in the end, come back to Leviticus, shows exactly how poorly the inclusion of the Religious Right has affected the GOP...
2013-02-27 01:42:48 PM
1 votes:

Great_Milenko: Oddly enough, this is a direct result of the rise of the tea party.

As the baggers' power wanes, moderate Republicans will have to move to the center* in order to further deny the baggers any sort of victory or clout.  They don't really care about gay marriage, but they do care about losing power, especially to evangelical nutballs and racist pukes.

* "center" being the center between American liberals and conservatives, not any rational view of a real center position.


No this is a direct result of people like Ellen Degeneres, George Takei and Anderson Cooper coming out and showing ignorant straight people that gay people are really no different than themselves.  I should know I was once one of those ignorant straight people that supported absolutely no public recognition of gay relationships in any form.  I just plain didn't understand homosexuality.  I thought it was a mental disorder.  That they didn't really love each other and that it was all about engaging in sexually deviant behavior.  Until I started meeting gay people and finding out people I knew were gay and was able to see them just live normal lives and that their relationships with their partners are really no different than hetero relationships.  I was not homophobic, there was no fear.  It was purely ignorance along with some misinformation from people I thought knew what they were talking about.

Also if one truly supports the Constitution there is absolutely no Constitutional justification of any kind for a ban on gay marriage.  People really need to stop only supporting the parts of the Constitution they like.
2013-02-27 01:32:30 PM
1 votes:
Nah, they are just realizing we had the bible wrong all these years:

Gay marriage and marijuana were legalized on the same day for a reason: Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lays with another man he should be stoned."
2013-02-27 12:02:31 PM
1 votes:

poorcku: Why the hell did the people vote on California Proposition 8? Are we going to vote until the "right" thing comes out? Are we going to go through the back-channels in order to get the proposition revoked? This is profoundly undemocratic.


A: It doesn't matter how many people vote on something if it's unconstitutional.
B: Challenging a law, trying to recall an elected official, or asking the courts to review a law is JUST as Democratic as voting for the law in in the first place.
C: I didn't know that all of this was confusing to people.
2013-02-27 11:18:42 AM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Republicans should be at the forefront on this issue, if they want to have any credibility on matters of privacy, religious freedom, and equality, and that so many bring up specious arguments that, in the end, come back to Leviticus, shows exactly how poorly the inclusion of the Religious Right has affected the GOP...


Instead of destroying traditional marriage or the family, it seems homos getting married will destroy the GOP (or at least fracture it, much like gun rights did the Democrats in the 1990s, or racism did to the Democrats in the 1960s).

The GOP has had a weird conlibservativarian chimera within for the last 30 years - BIG GUBMINT BAD, except when it comes to sex, drugs and rock'n'roll; SMALL GUMBINT GOOD except when Muslims want a new mosque or women want insurance-paid birth control - and I never thought that marriage equality would be the thing that finally exposed it.

// I actually thought it would be pot
2013-02-27 11:07:04 AM
1 votes:
Why the hell did the people vote on California Proposition 8? Are we going to vote until the "right" thing comes out? Are we going to go through the back-channels in order to get the proposition revoked? This is profoundly undemocratic.
2013-02-27 11:03:03 AM
1 votes:
I can't wait for the conservatives to get so far ahead of this issue that they can claim they were for it and the liberals were against it all along, like they did with Martin Luther King.
2013-02-27 11:02:18 AM
1 votes:
Is this big thrust related in any way to a wide stance?
 
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