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(CBS Houston)   Louisiana hunters donate 1600 pounds of venison to local homeless shelter. The Health Dept shows their thanks by dumping all the properly processed and packaged meat in a dumpster and pouring Clorox on it   (houston.cbslocal.com) divider line 191
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2013-02-26 11:59:10 PM
"there is no way to verify how the deer were killed, prepared or stored."

Yeah but it's for the poor so who gives a fnck, right?
 
2013-02-27 12:05:50 AM
Well, to be fair, it probably wouldn't have been up to the standards of the usual irradiated, pink slime-laden, hormone and chemical filled grade Z meat they usually give the homeless.
 
2013-02-27 12:08:09 AM
Sad tag lets Dumbass have a turn.
 
2013-02-27 12:11:25 AM
Soylent venison is people.
 
2013-02-27 12:30:44 AM
Chain of custody for meat. It's a thing.

/There are services out where I used to live that would work with police departments to help clean up *fresh* deer hits. If the animal was intact they would come and get it, process it, sell 1/2 and the other 1/2 went to the shelter to help feed the homeless or disadvantaged.

//Used to have to throw away UNGODLY amounts of food when I was a store clerk. It's the law. Even if that milk is good for another week, I can't even GIVE it to you if it is expired.
 
2013-02-27 12:39:17 AM
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2013-02-27 12:40:47 AM

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Nice
 
2013-02-27 12:54:15 AM

Shadow Blasko: Chain of custody for meat. It's a thing.


On one hand, I can see how it's a major waste of good food. On the other, there's a legitimate reason for extreme risk aversion when it comes to food that can make people sick or possibly kill them... especially a "sensitive" population like the poor/homeless.
 
2013-02-27 01:04:12 AM

RodneyToady: Shadow Blasko: Chain of custody for meat. It's a thing.

On one hand, I can see how it's a major waste of good food. On the other, there's a legitimate reason for extreme risk aversion when it comes to food that can make people sick or possibly kill them... especially a "sensitive" population like the poor/homeless.


I agree with it being necessary. I have a pretty good friend who likes to treat us to some pretty exotic meat from time to time, and he has a ServSafe certification (for what that is worth) because he used to be a sous chef at a pretty swanky place. He is super super careful about any meat that he uses, even just when cooking out for friends, and lectures (politely) many of us on stupid or unsafe things we do in our kitchens.

/First time I had ever seen a full kosher kitchen(s). Wow.. what a spread.
 
2013-02-27 01:13:13 AM
Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.
 
2013-02-27 01:37:56 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.


better than in my cars hood at 70 mph.
 
2013-02-27 02:02:35 AM
I hope they still get to eat cake.  One should never deny the poor cake.
 
2013-02-27 02:29:54 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.


1,600 lbs is like three deer.
 
2013-02-27 02:39:10 AM
WTF is wrong with you people?

/is it merely bureaucracy run amok, or just pure malevolence?
//even Jesus would backhand you
 
2013-02-27 03:24:51 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.


It keeps them from getting tangled up in the corn combines.
 
2013-02-27 03:25:56 AM
FTFA:  "we must protect the people . . ."

When has any level of gov't been concerned about the people?
 
2013-02-27 03:28:11 AM
chronic wasting disease, it's not just for breakfast anymore

/goes to get wasted on chronic

see what I did there? you see it?
 
2013-02-27 03:29:09 AM
People want government handouts but don't want to follow the government's rules.  Film at 11.
 
2013-02-27 03:30:00 AM
when i was in 8th grade i worked at a Diner across the highway from my house. witnessed the owner buy large grey plastic tubs of burger patties from a stranger in the parking lot. out of a station wagon. unrefrigerated, and no tops on the tubs. i doubt this is the only time this type of thing has happened in the USA.

--these people destroying the venison were wrong. you cook that meat properly you have no problem. shame on them for wasting and taking food from the hungry.
 
2013-02-27 03:30:34 AM
When I was a kid I had a deer as a pet. Well, not a real pet. She would just come by and loll in our garden and munch on the blueberries that grew abundantly around the perimeter. She'd let me pet her and my sister and I spent a lot of time feeding the doe and running around the yard with it. I'd always heard that deer ran really fast. It was the deer that inspired my to learn how to run fast. I looked up to the deer. I studied her every move. It was my dream to be as fast as a deer. I practiced every day for hours and hours. She was a god to me.

Then I found out about movie tricks. Trick photography! I was crushed.
 
2013-02-27 03:33:34 AM
deer is not really cleared for public consuming according to FDA and bureaucratic crap like that. what this basically boils down to is more cities are working to make life hell on the homeless so they will get out of town. the fewer riff raff, the better the property value.
 
2013-02-27 03:33:45 AM

kingoomieiii: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.

1,600 lbs is like three deer.


Wrong.
 
2013-02-27 03:34:36 AM
reverse cop math?

$0.50 per pound on what farking planet?
 
2013-02-27 03:36:15 AM
"The department says it is now working with hunters in ways to donate extra game to homeless shelters. "

Ohh, the outrage.
 
2013-02-27 03:37:31 AM
How sweet it will be when we have a crisis like a major earthquake that shuts down distribution to many major cities. Those in the woods will enjoy their venison, and the entitled snobs in the city will starve. No aragula for you.
 
2013-02-27 03:38:22 AM
What's the problem? I thought everyone liked white meat.
 
2013-02-27 03:38:59 AM

kingoomieiii: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.

1,600 lbs is like three deer.


1600 lbs. of deer meat is easily 20 and probably more like 25 deer.
 
2013-02-27 03:42:16 AM

stonelotus: reverse cop math?

$0.50 per pound on what farking planet?


$5 pound.
 
2013-02-27 03:42:58 AM

The Snow Dog: kingoomieiii: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.

1,600 lbs is like three deer.

1600 lbs. of deer meat is easily 20 and probably more like 25 deer.


Hill countryTexan?  Colorado deer more like 150# dressed and skinned.
 
2013-02-27 03:46:38 AM
It's the law. We couldn't donate leftovers from restaurants I have worked at unless officials picked it up themselves.

Raw foods have always been no go's at shelters.

It only takes one deer having a buck shot in its belly to lead to a lawsuit by some homeless class action group.

It sucks but a ten minute phone call would have saved time and probably would have given them an opportunity to donate it properly.
 
2013-02-27 03:46:46 AM
Sinclair, Upton. "The Jungle". 1906.
 
2013-02-27 03:51:21 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Well, to be fair, it probably wouldn't have been up to the standards of the usual irradiated, pink slime-laden, hormone and chemical filled grade Z meat they usually give the homeless.


And small children. McNugget Happy Meal, it's safe, it's sanitised, it's almost meat!
 
2013-02-27 03:52:46 AM

Friction8r: How sweet it will be when we have a crisis like a major earthquake that shuts down distribution to many major cities. Those in the woods will enjoy their venison, and the entitled snobs in the city will starve. No aragula for you.


Don't be daft. Mixed greens grow nicely in a clearing, not so much iceberg lettuce, the beloved leaf of the fast food industry.

Although last time I grew mixed greens in a wild setting I'm pretty sure some random weeds made it into the salad.
 
2013-02-27 03:54:12 AM
So.. What, they gave it the Deep South grocery store spoiled meat treatment? I'm surprised they didn't rinse off the Clorox, and repackage it with a BBQ sauce marinade and try to sell it :p

/careful where you buy meat
//the jungle, etc.
///granny found an entire bee in a hotdog once
 
2013-02-27 03:55:10 AM
Hopefully this process can get worked out better in future so that approval can be obtained from Louisiana officials and this fresh and tasty meat can be provided to these needy homeless and low income persons.   I'm not a hunter and don't think I could shoot deer or other animals, but I find hunting to be less cruel a way to obtain meat than factory farming and may be more healthy and tasty because they're not shot up with anti-biotics and hormones that is the case with cattle raised on factory farms.
 
2013-02-27 03:55:34 AM

crabsno termites: The Snow Dog: kingoomieiii: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.

1,600 lbs is like three deer.

1600 lbs. of deer meat is easily 20 and probably more like 25 deer.

Hill countryTexan?  Colorado deer more like 150# dressed and skinned.


Yes, but I was calculating for Louisiana deer which are closer to Colorado weight. In our deer it would likely to be closer to 30 deer.

Meat Yields (In Pounds)Animal Weight* Meat Waste %Meat
Lamb** 50 40 10 80%
Hog 240 189 51 79%
Black Angus 600 438 162 73%
Holstein Steer 900 513 387 57%
Mature Buck 180 72 108 40%

*Carcass weight. Head, hide and intestines removed
 
2013-02-27 03:55:46 AM

FunkOut: Although last time I grew mixed greens in a wild setting I'm pretty sure some random weeds made it into the salad


Weed:  any plant in a place you don't want it to be.
 
2013-02-27 03:59:15 AM

ModernLuddite: Sinclair, Upton. "The Jungle". 1906.


Came here to say this.  'Oh, but we're hunters, and know what we're doing, and good Samaritans, so it's totally different.'  No it isn't.  You don't just go randomly making exceptions to food safety regulations because someone's a heck of a guy.  "Hey, Vinnie's Little Italy Concrete Co wants to give us a new foundation for a homeless shelter free, he seems legit and it's for charity, I saw we let him do it without any building inspections."
 
2013-02-27 04:00:47 AM
For the people whining about bureaucracy and the big bad government:

Should there be rules on food donated to homeless shelters?
 
2013-02-27 04:01:41 AM

LowbrowDeluxe: You don't just go randomly making exceptions to food safety regulations because someone's a heck of a guy.




How did the world survive before Upton Sinclair?
 
2013-02-27 04:08:07 AM

crabsno termites: FunkOut: Although last time I grew mixed greens in a wild setting I'm pretty sure some random weeds made it into the salad

Weed:  any plant in a place you don't want it to be.


Well, you have to admit, you don't really want to be eating water hemlock.
 
2013-02-27 04:08:17 AM

crabsno termites: LowbrowDeluxe: You don't just go randomly making exceptions to food safety regulations because someone's a heck of a guy.

How did the world survive before Upton Sinclair?


With much higher mortality rates and disease?
 
2013-02-27 04:15:24 AM

ModernLuddite: crabsno termites: LowbrowDeluxe: You don't just go randomly making exceptions to food safety regulations because someone's a heck of a guy.

How did the world survive before Upton Sinclair?

With much higher mortality rates and disease?


Survived, didn't we?  YFB.  Took care of ourselves.
 
2013-02-27 04:17:48 AM

crabsno termites: LowbrowDeluxe: You don't just go randomly making exceptions to food safety regulations because someone's a heck of a guy.



How did the world survive before Upton Sinclair?


Some with one arm, some with serious food poisoning, some as orphans.

It is quite a boring book in terms of story but honestly it made me not want to eat processed meat for like a week.
 
2013-02-27 04:19:46 AM

crabsno termites: Survived, didn't we?


some of us did. Others died.
 
2013-02-27 04:21:41 AM

Hobo Jr.: crabsno termites: LowbrowDeluxe: You don't just go randomly making exceptions to food safety regulations because someone's a heck of a guy.

How did the world survive before Upton Sinclair?

Some with one arm, some with serious food poisoning, some as orphans.

It is quite a boring book in terms of story but honestly it made me not want to eat processed meat for like a week.




Agree, somewhat boring, but informative. Compare population 1600's/late 1800's. How did we do it? Government?
 
2013-02-27 04:29:47 AM

log_jammin: crabsno termites: Survived, didn't we?

some of us did. Others died.




We're still dying, aren't we? Yes, at a somewhat slower rate, but so what?
 
2013-02-27 04:31:11 AM

RodneyToady: On the other, there's a legitimate reason for extreme risk aversion when it comes to food that can make people sick or possibly kill them... especially a "sensitive" population like the poor/homeless.


These are the same types of people that are willing to dumpster dive for some food. Putting the food in a dumpster and pouring bleach on it (at a place with a high concentration of homeless people no less) seems like a poorly thought out plan for disposal.
 
2013-02-27 04:35:24 AM

crabsno termites: We're still dying, aren't we? Yes, at a somewhat slower rate, but so what?


we also survived before modern medicine too, that doesn't mean we should chuck out chemotherapy and aspirin. That our species survived inspite of something isn't a reason to dismiss advances since then.
 
2013-02-27 04:38:12 AM

The Snow Dog: crabsno termites: The Snow Dog: kingoomieiii: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Well, at least a shiatload of deer were killed for fun.

1,600 lbs is like three deer.

1600 lbs. of deer meat is easily 20 and probably more like 25 deer.

Hill countryTexan?  Colorado deer more like 150# dressed and skinned.

Yes, but I was calculating for Louisiana deer which are closer to Colorado weight. In our deer it would likely to be closer to 30 deer.

Meat Yields (In Pounds)Animal Weight* Meat Waste %Meat
Lamb** 50 40 10 80%
Hog 240 189 51 79%
Black Angus 600 438 162 73%
Holstein Steer 900 513 387 57%
Mature Buck 180 72 108 40%

*Carcass weight. Head, hide and intestines removed




Look to USDA grading standards. I'm @ 10 years out of date (but spent +/- 20 years in livestock industry), and when I left, #1 yield for cattle was 52% "lean, well trimmed", nowhere near the 70%+ cited in your reference. Suggestion: buy a steer, have it slaughtered, cut, wrapped, see how much you put in the freezer, Angus, hereford, Charolais, any of 'em.

/Ranched for @ 15 yrs after walking away from corporate life.
//Retired animal nutritionist.

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