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(ESPN)   The Raiders have offered three first round picks to the Browns for Mike Holmgren   (espn.go.com) divider line 19
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2013-02-27 12:53:20 AM
That could be interesting.  I hope it doesn't happen, but I doubt even Holmgren could turn them around very quickly.
 
2013-02-27 01:57:28 AM
It still not going to stop them from sucking.
 
2013-02-27 02:34:38 AM
Considering how quickly he turned the Browns around, this is totally worth it.
 
2013-02-27 02:49:59 AM

Larry Mahnken: Considering how quickly he turned the Browns around, this is totally worth it.


Yep, though I still think he'd help the Raiders, they need consistency. They fired two coaches in a row that gave them at least non-losing 8-8 seasons, so a consistent manager might correct the instability of the organization. This would be a great post-Al move, it would symbolize a lot for the team.
 
2013-02-27 03:03:56 AM
Makes plenty of sense.

Giving the Raiders first-round draft picks is like giving gloves to a snake.
 
2013-02-27 03:12:23 AM

TheJoe03: . This would be a great post-Al move, it would symbolize a lot for the team.


Actually, this story confirms what I'm told are Raiders fans' worst fears: when he died, Al Davis became a lich.  One of you folks is going to need to track him down and destroy his soul phylactery.
 
2013-02-27 03:28:17 AM

ChildOfBhaal: One of you folks is going to need to track him down and destroy his soul phylactery.


Well I'm only a Raiders fan because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so as a Cowboys fan in the Bay Area I ended up supporting them as my AFC and local team. Hopefully one of the more diehard Mad Max fans finds a way to destroy this lich, especially now that the Santa Clara 49ers are good again.
 
2013-02-27 03:46:16 AM

Larry Mahnken: Considering how quickly he turned the Browns around, this is totally worth it.


Eh, maybe in a personnel perspective (but that was also partly Tom Heckert's doing). Coaching-wise? Not so much.

/You'll see the Browns compete when the coaching staff and the personnel truly mesh.
//I'm not sure if Chudzinski/Norv will mesh with Weeden as QB, despite his stronger arm.  Sure, he has a strong arm, but that ball could land anywhere in the 216 area code.
 
2013-02-27 04:00:41 AM
Being a browns fan, I can't give credit to a guy who really did nothing to better the teams cause. But knowing that the last owner tied the walrus tusks together, used him as a name to run the franchise all the while not caring about team performance in an attempt to make the bottom line look good for potential buyers, I can say maybe he will do better in different circumstances.You'd think winning more would increase a teams value, but I guess keeping a low cap number and fixed costs down while getting profit out of fans and TV money trumps it.
 
2013-02-27 05:14:02 AM
I don't get these GM hires based on having a big name. Holmgren, Parcells, etc. They just guess at stuff. Parcells hired Sparano. Holmgren drafted Colt McCoy. These guys are just dart throwers as far as their picks when it comes to talent.
 
2013-02-27 07:38:02 AM

mr_a: like giving gloves to a snake.


I'm totally stealing that line.
 
2013-02-27 08:06:41 AM
Not so certain on this one; the job also entails drumming up support for a new stadium and I'm totally sure Holmgren is the guy to send on that mission.

/Seriously, the Coliseum is a barn
//A barn that needs 20% of its seats covered
///And don't even get me started on all the draft prospects that have shiat the bed in the past week
 
2013-02-27 08:33:44 AM
How badly did Al Davis stock the front office with yes-men or people not entirely competent to run a modern franchise?  Are they going to have incompetency embedded in their organization for years to come?

/Also, wasn't Holmgren roundly criticized for trying to be a GM in Seattle?  And wasn't Ron Wolf responsible for putting together Holmgren's roster?
 
2013-02-27 08:39:11 AM

UNC_Samurai: How badly did Al Davis stock the front office with yes-men or people not entirely competent to run a modern franchise?


I've wondered this as well, and it makes me a little jealous, TBH. Imagine a six-seven figure salary, being able to be completely incompetent, yet always adored and valued.
 
2013-02-27 09:14:22 AM
Considering Holmgren doesn't work for the Browns any more, that would be stupid beyond even typical Raiders stupidity.
 
2013-02-27 09:20:59 AM

UNC_Samurai: Also, wasn't Holmgren roundly criticized for trying to be a GM in Seattle? And wasn't Ron Wolf responsible for putting together Holmgren's roster?


Pretty much.  Seattle didn't get "good" until Holmgren was no longer the GM and many of the contributors to their Super Bowl run were not guys that Holmgren assembled.  Holmgren is quite possibly the most overrated football mind that ever existed.  He's an OK coach and a mediocre GM but for some reason people think he's great at both.
 
2013-02-27 09:34:40 AM

SuperChuck: Considering Holmgren doesn't work for the Browns any more, that would be stupid beyond even typical Raiders stupidity.

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2013-02-27 09:59:03 AM
As a Raiders fan living in Wisconsin, I'd be ok with this.  It would certainly make going to a bar on Sundays during football season a lot easier.

Instead of drunk game day moms asking why I have an Oakland hat on then remind me that I'm in Wisconsin and how many Super Bowls the Packers have won, they would just shout "Woooo! Holmgren!" and give me a high five.
 
2013-02-27 06:36:54 PM

WhiskeySticks: As a Raiders fan living in Wisconsin, I'd be ok with this.  It would certainly make going to a bar on Sundays during football season a lot easier.

Instead of drunk game day moms asking why I have an Oakland hat on then remind me that I'm in Wisconsin and how many Super Bowls the Packers have won, they would just shout "Woooo! Holmgren!" and give me a high five.


I find when I'm wearing Silver & Black in Wisconsin most people leave you the hell alone.

/The yelling at the TV helps.
 
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