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2013-02-26 09:15:36 PM
4 votes:
Sam Vimes does.  All the time.
2013-02-26 11:08:57 PM
2 votes:

GAT_00: Who watches the watchmen?

People who enjoy blue dong?

sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...

Haiti is an unfixable hellhole because there is little to no soil left capable of growing crops.  There is no way that country could ever sustain itself.


yep.

one side of this image is Haiti. the other is the DR. Guess which is which

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2013-02-26 08:42:46 PM
2 votes:
Who watches the watchmen?

People who enjoy blue dong?

sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...


Haiti is an unfixable hellhole because there is little to no soil left capable of growing crops.  There is no way that country could ever sustain itself.
2013-02-26 08:36:59 PM
2 votes:
Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...
2013-02-27 03:04:06 AM
1 votes:

Need_MindBleach: vpb: GAT_00: sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...

Haiti is an unfixable hellhole because there is little to no soil left capable of growing crops.  There is no way that country could ever sustain itself.

Yep.  But there is a reason for that.

No, believe it or not, "Why Haiti is a shiathole" is one of the few things that's virtually impossible to blame on the United States.


Yeah, about that.

Despite enjoying widespread support by the majority of Haitians, the Washington Post informed their readers that regime change was looming on 21 November 2003: "Aristide has pushed with mixed success a populist agenda of higher minimum wages, school construction, literacy programs, higher taxes on the rich and other policies that have angered an opposition movement run largely by a mulatto elite that has traditionally controlled Haiti's economy."[16]

After Aristide took office in February 2001, Washington played a leading role in forcing hundreds of millions of dollars in international aid to be cut off, while bolstering a minority opposition led by Haiti's tiny elite. In the three years leading up to the coup, the nation's already moribund economy further deteriorated and the government ground to a halt as the opposition refused to participate in elections. Washington ignored pleas from the Aristide government for an international peacekeeping force as a motley band of armed thugs led by a suspected drug trafficker and fugitive death squad leaders overran more than half the country. US marines in Haiti made no effort to disarm the terrorists. US policy toward Haiti appeared to be a war of attrition, driven by animosity towards Aristide
2013-02-27 01:22:38 AM
1 votes:

vpb: Haiti has been independent since 1804. How does this have anything to do with France in modern times?


To paraphrase, "Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans thinks 100 miles is a long distance"
2013-02-27 12:51:57 AM
1 votes:
www.wedapeeps.com
2013-02-27 12:07:06 AM
1 votes:

Tatterdemalian: al's hat: spawn73: sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...

It started out when the Haitian slaved overthrew the slaveowners and abolish slavery.

So of course the rest of the world, USA in particular (France is kinda a long away from there), placed them under embargo that they've never shook off he ramifications of.

It's funny how a possibly insightful comment goes to shiat when I have to read a sentence multiple times because the grammar distracts me... "the Haitian slaved", "abolish" instead of "abolished", and "never shook off".  WTF?   You must be more drunk than I am and I thought I was pretty far gone at this point.

It's funny how a comment that rewrites history so America can be blamed is automatically judged "possibly insightful," in spite of its errors in grammar and spelling.

/the DR and Haiti suffered the same judgements and embargoes
//the DR used austerity to pay off their debt, while Haiti pitched a fit over it
///but that doesn't fit the narrative, so it must be ignored


those slashies are really close [without the rest read totally bullshiat] to (Republican) fantasy, so really should be ignored.
2013-02-26 11:57:31 PM
1 votes:
Were Unilever or Coca-Cola responsible for a cholera outbreak that killed 8,000 people and infected 640,000 more, and for subsequently covering up its employees' failure to adhere to basic sanitation standards, it is likely their executives would have difficulty visiting countries claiming universal legal jurisdiction.

While what the UN did might be despicable this line is bullshiat. Corporations cause people's deaths all over the world every day and are rarely held accountable. The only reason BP had to launch their "Please stop suing us!" PR campaign was because their shenanigans effected Americans.
2013-02-26 11:56:35 PM
1 votes:
Whoa, whoa, whoa.  Let me get this straight.  Random UN soldier brings cholera infection to Haiti.  Because its infrastructure was utterly destroyed by an earthquake, Haiti has no real sanitation system, and cholera rapidly spreads through the populace.  How is this the UN's fault?

Do they screen everyone at the Haitian ports and airports for cholera?  Because this could have been any other aid worker just as well...
2013-02-26 11:09:09 PM
1 votes:
i46.tinypic.com
& I already have a blue helmet!
2013-02-26 10:45:25 PM
1 votes:
Any time you see lots of well dressed, well off squinty people sitting in one room with a very tall ceiling, run in the other direction and stop for ammo.
2013-02-26 10:38:32 PM
1 votes:

sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...


It started out when the Haitian slaved overthrew the slaveowners and abolish slavery.

So of course the rest of the world, USA in particular (France is kinda a long away from there), placed them under embargo that they've never shook off he ramifications of.
2013-02-26 09:45:06 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The only way to save the area that is Haiti would be to remove all human habitation for 50 years or so


Probably more than 100 actually.  In tropical soils, all the minerals that usually exist in soil that make it truly alive are actually present in the forest cover, likely an adaptation made by rain forests to keep minerals from washing away.  That means there is literally nothing for regrowth left in the soil.  What needs to happen is the land to be totally left alone for a complete recovery from what is in effect a dead zone by succession.

sno man: There is all that earthquake money they don't have yet, but I'm sure we need to meter that out to ensure it never actually helps.


Yeah, but all that could do is import topsoil and fertilizer, which would be washed away as soon as the next rain storm hits because there is no tree cover to mitigate it.  As humanitarian as it is to help Haiti, you're really doing nothing more than throwing money away.  The only real solution is to abandon that half of Hispaniola.
2013-02-26 09:34:47 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: sno man: Have you seen a sat photo of hispaniola? Dominican Republic is doing fine... Haiti is a desert...

That's because a dictator in the 1930s made national parks in the DR, because he loved the forest.  The sheer deforestation of Haiti has washed out all their topsoil, not that tropical soil is particularly good at growing crops in the first place.

But Haiti is almost devoid of topsoil and trees and has no economy to import what it needs to start itself up.  It has no legitimate hope of recovery.

Sadly, this

/The only way to save the area that is Haiti would be to remove all human habitation for 50 years or so


which brings us back to the cholera...
2013-02-26 09:32:11 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: sno man: Have you seen a sat photo of hispaniola? Dominican Republic is doing fine... Haiti is a desert...

That's because a dictator in the 1930s made national parks in the DR, because he loved the forest.  The sheer deforestation of Haiti has washed out all their topsoil, not that tropical soil is particularly good at growing crops in the first place.

But Haiti is almost devoid of topsoil and trees and has no economy to import what it needs to start itself up.  It has no legitimate hope of recovery.


Sadly, this

/The only way to save the area that is Haiti would be to remove all human habitation for 50 years or so
2013-02-26 09:25:09 PM
1 votes:

vpb: sno man:
Have you seen a sat photo of hispaniola?  Dominican Republic is doing fine... Haiti is a desert... The screws the French had them under basically drained all the resources.  the rest of us deserve some shiat for screwing them out of the wee local pigs that would eat the scraps, and replacing them with the big-ass pigs that only eat corn that they don't/can't grow on their own... they are so very broken... I'm not sure unfixable, but it's going to be a long ugly road back to sustainability.

Haiti has been independent since 1804.  How does this have anything to do with France in modern times?


They have been farked since then, yea that long, either way it's fun to blame the French!
2013-02-26 09:15:21 PM
1 votes:

sno man: Have you seen a sat photo of hispaniola? Dominican Republic is doing fine... Haiti is a desert...


That's because a dictator in the 1930s made national parks in the DR, because he loved the forest.  The sheer deforestation of Haiti has washed out all their topsoil, not that tropical soil is particularly good at growing crops in the first place.

But Haiti is almost devoid of topsoil and trees and has no economy to import what it needs to start itself up.  It has no legitimate hope of recovery.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-26 09:09:28 PM
1 votes:
sno man:
Have you seen a sat photo of hispaniola?  Dominican Republic is doing fine... Haiti is a desert... The screws the French had them under basically drained all the resources.  the rest of us deserve some shiat for screwing them out of the wee local pigs that would eat the scraps, and replacing them with the big-ass pigs that only eat corn that they don't/can't grow on their own... they are so very broken... I'm not sure unfixable, but it's going to be a long ugly road back to sustainability.

Haiti has been independent since 1804.  How does this have anything to do with France in modern times?
2013-02-26 08:59:21 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: Who watches the watchmen?

People who enjoy blue dong?

sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...

Haiti is an unfixable hellhole because there is little to no soil left capable of growing crops.  There is no way that country could ever sustain itself.


Have you seen a sat photo of hispaniola?  Dominican Republic is doing fine... Haiti is a desert... The screws the French had them under basically drained all the resources.  the rest of us deserve some shiat for screwing them out of the wee local pigs that would eat the scraps, and replacing them with the big-ass pigs that only eat corn that they don't/can't grow on their own... they are so very broken... I'm not sure unfixable, but it's going to be a long ugly road back to sustainability.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-26 08:57:05 PM
1 votes:

GAT_00: Who watches the watchmen?

People who enjoy blue dong?

sno man: Haiti was a clusterfark way before the earthquake, and hehe we get to blame the French for that.  Since then it's just about everyone's fault. Only about half of all those donations we all made have managed to get there so far too...

Haiti is an unfixable hellhole because there is little to no soil left capable of growing crops.  There is no way that country could ever sustain itself.


Yep.  But there is a reason for that.
2013-02-26 07:32:22 PM
1 votes:
I dunno. Coast Guard?
2013-02-26 07:11:39 PM
1 votes:
Apparently no-one after the first weekend it was in the theatre.
 
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