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(Liebert Publications Online)   First they came for the cigarettes, and I didn't speak out because I didn't smoke. Then they came for the alcohol, and I didn't speak out because I didn't drink. Then they came for the caffeine and I said I'LL FARKING CUT YOU   (online.liebertpub.com) divider line 169
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2013-02-26 08:33:39 PM
Isnt it considerably easier to die with swallowing pills than dying from a caffeine overdose?
 
2013-02-26 08:34:16 PM

cman: Isnt it considerably easier to die with swallowing pills rather than dying from a caffeine overdose?



Oh FFS

I really need to use the preview button

Fixt
 
2013-02-26 09:11:17 PM
I'LL FARKING CUT YOU,  BIATCH!

You left that off, subbs.
 
2013-02-26 09:11:42 PM
I can only imagine it's like to work at the Journal of Caffeine Research.
 
2013-02-26 09:18:18 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop doing blow.
 
2013-02-26 09:52:38 PM
Bath salts are still okay though?  Right?
 
2013-02-26 09:52:50 PM
DRTFA, but loving the headline.
 
2013-02-26 09:55:34 PM
I drink coffee.  A lot.  Everyday.  I can't imagine living without it.

Caffeine supplements are bad.
 
2013-02-26 09:57:38 PM
I've tried giving up caffeine.  I made it 3 weeks once.  Constant headaches and no energy at all.

/I farking need it
 
2013-02-26 09:57:44 PM
I drink 2 pots of coffee a day.  Shouldn't I be dead?
 
2013-02-26 09:57:58 PM
At first, I thought it was an Onion piece. To my horror, I was wrong. Remember when we used to laugh when we were told that the tobacco lawsuits would be followed by anti-caffeine crusades?
 
2013-02-26 09:58:04 PM
This reminds me very much of the 'gum disease causes heart disease' BS that was floated around for a while.

Guess what. Oxygen is poisonous is large enough amounts. Drinking too much water too quickly will kill you.

I don't care if they want to study it, that's fine, but the breathiness and drama in that article are absurd.
 
2013-02-26 09:59:16 PM
Bloomberg is reading this...  And smiling....


// They came for the large sodas, and I did nothing....
 
2013-02-26 09:59:58 PM

cman: cman: Isnt it considerably easier to die with swallowing pills rather than dying from a caffeine overdose?


Oh FFS

I really need to use the preview button

Fixt


Looks like you could use some caffeine.
 
2013-02-26 10:02:45 PM
One poorly designed study in an obscure journal is obscure and poorly designed. Coffee need fear not.
 
2013-02-26 10:03:34 PM
Banning caffeine???  Looks like my sister and former high school Mormon classmate are finally getting their way.
 
2013-02-26 10:04:25 PM
I read the article.  Don't.  You'll never get that time back.  Just proves that there are a lot of people with PhD's out there that make up sh*t to worry about.  Go ahead and pound another energy drink, imbibe your two pots of coffee a day.... nothing to see here.
 
2013-02-26 10:04:48 PM
salt is the real enemy.
 
2013-02-26 10:05:15 PM

Cheesus: I've tried giving up caffeine.  I made it 3 weeks once.  Constant headaches and no energy at all.

/I farking need it


I'm currently trying to ween myself off of it slowly.  I was already back down to a 2 cup/day habit, but I now fill about 20% of the cup with water or decaf (oh, I already said water) first.  It's rough, but so far no headaches.  Will keep slowly backing away over time, and see if I can get off of it entirely at some point.
 
2013-02-26 10:07:56 PM
You can thank crap like "turbo godzilla extreme N-R-G" drinks for this.
 
2013-02-26 10:10:02 PM

Cheesus: I've tried giving up caffeine.  I made it 3 weeks once.  Constant headaches and no energy at all.

/I farking need it


That's a way worse physiological reaction than I had when I quit smoking. Of course, I was unsuccessful.
 
2013-02-26 10:12:14 PM
"How many must there be before we regulate?"

Liberalism at it's finest.
 
2013-02-26 10:13:03 PM
Of more than 2 million notifications received by the American National Poison Data System (NPDS) in 2011, 6,309 "case mentions" included caffeine. The majority of these involved other compounds, and cause of death attributable to caffeine was recorded in only one of a total of 1,995 poisons fatalities registered for that year.
*facepalm*
 
2013-02-26 10:14:00 PM
YOu know what's more dangerous than caffeine?  Free radicals.  they're made of oxygen... and it's in the air we breathe already...

Let's ban oxygen before it kills us all.
 
2013-02-26 10:14:30 PM
I think we, as a literate society, are running out of things to rant about.
 
2013-02-26 10:16:43 PM
s14.postimage.org
 
2013-02-26 10:17:16 PM

andychrist420: pots


I drink a little over a liter a day.  French press a big pot in the morning, put it in carafe, have great coffee till it's gone sometime around 1400
 
2013-02-26 10:18:24 PM
If you'll notice, it's from Iceland. Who have already banned porn and are considering banning internet porn. So banning or regulating caffeine for being too useful wouldn't be a huge surprise.
 
2013-02-26 10:18:25 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Of more than 2 million notifications received by the American National Poison Data System (NPDS) in 2011, 6,309 "case mentions" included caffeine. The majority of these involved other compounds, and cause of death attributable to caffeine was recorded in only one of a total of 1,995 poisons fatalities registered for that year.
*facepalm*


Slightly more deadly than drop side cribs.
 
2013-02-26 10:18:40 PM
Well actually the came for the weed first, and that's less harmful than caffeine ever was. Myself, the only drugs I do is weed, caffeine, tobacco, and alcohol, so the government better not mess with any of them.
 
2013-02-26 10:18:53 PM

omgwtfbbq69: I read the article.  Don't.  You'll never get that time back.  Just proves that there are a lot of people with PhD's out there that make up sh*t to worry about.  Go ahead and pound another energy drink, imbibe your two pots of coffee a day.... nothing to see here.



Or...there are people out there with Ph.Ds who still have personal agenda's to push and abuse the authority that a Ph.D should have in a given field to push said personal agenda.

When I was in high school I had a classmate who was a hardcore Mormon.  Being a friend of a member of my small group of friends, she ate lunch with us.  She also voiced her oppinions when any of us used salt, drank cafienated drinks, had a cup of coffee, or smoked in our own privately owned cars.  And when I say "voiced her oppinions" I mean "forced her beliefs upon us to the point where upon salting french fries, she would pick up the container of fries and throw them onto the floor, then explain how she's doing us a favor." (Since she was a female I couldn't deck her.  Thankfully, she was enough of a biatch that other women were more than happy to hit and kick her).  I have no doubt that someone like that with a Ph.D would twist a study filled with cherry picked results to push her own agenda, especially if it could lead to them being able to force their own agenda upon an entire nation.
 
2013-02-26 10:18:54 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Of more than 2 million notifications received by the American National Poison Data System (NPDS) in 2011, 6,309 "case mentions" included caffeine. The majority of these involved other compounds, and cause of death attributable to caffeine was recorded in only one of a total of 1,995 poisons fatalities registered for that year.
*facepalm*


So, the answer to the question proposed in the paper "Death By Caffeine: How Many Caffeine-Related Fatalities and Near-Misses Must There Be Before We Regulate?" is; a lot more than there are now.
 
2013-02-26 10:19:01 PM
saeco-kavegepek.com

No you don't!
 
2013-02-26 10:19:13 PM
The Journal of Medicine of Latter Day Saints?
 
2013-02-26 10:19:30 PM
I will likely never quit coffee, so you can pry it from my cold dead hands.
 
2013-02-26 10:19:51 PM
Don't worry, Bloomberg is working on it.
 
2013-02-26 10:20:20 PM

omgwtfbbq69: I read the article.  Don't.  You'll never get that time back.  Just proves that there are a lot of people with PhD's out there that make up sh*t to worry about.  Go ahead and pound another energy drink, imbibe your two pots of coffee a day.... nothing to see here.


I read the article, and have a Ph.D. (not in caffeine studies, though), so I'm getting a kick.

This sounds to me like a study that tried to identify the safe limits of a chemical beyond which bad things happen.

The article is pretty poorly written, but at least it does toss in embarrassing cop-outs like "Notwithstanding the obvious need for further research" and "Although the anecdotal nature of some of the evidence and the general paucity of systematic data preclude firm conclusions"... and they seem to be saying some people are taking megadoses of caffeine pills to commit suicide. Similar to controlling the sale of pseudephedrine, they note that reducing the quantity of caffeine pills that one can purchase at a pop seems to be an effective approach for reducing suicides.

/all that said, my Ph.D. is in Computer Science, so there's that
 
2013-02-26 10:20:47 PM

Cheesus: I've tried giving up caffeine.  I made it 3 weeks once.  Constant headaches and no energy at all.

/I farking need it


I successfully quit almost a year ago. The withrawal symptoms were intense. Now that I'm off it I use caffeine just for working out and it has a very strong effect. When I was addicted I just felt normal after taking caffeine. Now I feel high when I take it.
 
2013-02-26 10:24:23 PM
So, this isn't about coffee, but the massive amounts of caffiene in diet pills, isn't it?

//Oh, cookies beeped.
 
2013-02-26 10:25:03 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Of more than 2 million notifications received by the American National Poison Data System (NPDS) in 2011, 6,309 "case mentions" included caffeine. The majority of these involved other compounds, and cause of death attributable to caffeine was recorded in only one of a total of 1,995 poisons fatalities registered for that year.
*facepalm*


As long ad it saves one life right?
 
2013-02-26 10:26:50 PM
I'd quit heroin before I quit caffeine.
 
2013-02-26 10:28:17 PM

Benjamin Orr: ArcadianRefugee: Of more than 2 million notifications received by the American National Poison Data System (NPDS) in 2011, 6,309 "case mentions" included caffeine. The majority of these involved other compounds, and cause of death attributable to caffeine was recorded in only one of a total of 1,995 poisons fatalities registered for that year.
*facepalm*

As long ad it saves one life right?


Meh... as.... Please don't take away my caffeine
 
2013-02-26 10:29:58 PM
 
2013-02-26 10:32:13 PM

cman: Isnt it considerably easier to die with swallowing pills than dying from a caffeine overdose?


CSB Time:

As a teenager, I did my share of stupid things. One of which was to take about 3/4 a box of caffeine pills at once on a dare. I did not go to the hospital (probably should have), but spent about 8 delirious heart racing hours on the family living room couch covered in my own vomit, too nauseous to move. Parents were out of town and I caught hell for puking on the couch when they got home. Said I caught a stomach bug. Mom bought it, but dad thought I had gotten drunk and hungover. I wish.

Good times.
 
2013-02-26 10:33:03 PM
As someone who is getting a kick out of these replies, it would be hard to OD on caffeine. Like, really really hard. You'd have to be eating pure powdered caffeine by the spoonful to get anywhere near the levels required to do permanent damage to yourself. And it's not as if people take caffeine to get high, where there's a biochemical reward for ingesting more.
 
2013-02-26 10:35:37 PM
Despite my CSB above, I still drink enough coffee daily to give a sloth arrhythmia.

Cold. Dead. (Shaking.) Hands.
 
2013-02-26 10:35:55 PM
I don't use caffeine at all, because every once in a while, I really, really need it.

One time, I had to stay awake for 4 days at a go.  Starting the end of day 1, I was averaging 200mg every hour, for about 3 days.  By day 4, I was simultaneously twitching from all the caffeine, and lurching when I walked from the tiredness, so that I looked like a zombie with Parkinsons.  Had a really nasty headache too.

/Also, never understood the point of coffee.  Both times I've tried it, one sip burned all the tastebuds off my tongue and I couldn't taste anything for 3 days.
 
2013-02-26 10:38:22 PM
www.keurig.com

we just bought one of these.  i have two cups in the morning before I head off to work then I will usually drink about three to four cups at work but also drink plenty of water between cups as well due to the diuretic effect.  I also love the occasional bottle of Dr. Pepper.  I don't do the monsters five hours and the like.  I have tried to stop drinking coffee before and yes caffeine is a drug and you do have withdrawals, but a cup of coffee and a cigarette in the morning are pretty damn good if you ask me.  Wife said, "oh it's just the energy drinks they are targeting"  had to explain about the FDA.  She isn't too happy now either since she loves her some donut house coffee in the morning as well.

/how long before we are relegated to buying coffee from some shady individual in a dark alley?
 
2013-02-26 10:39:20 PM

tortilla burger: As someone who is getting a kick out of these replies, it would be hard to OD on caffeine. Like, really really hard. You'd have to be eating pure powdered caffeine by the spoonful to get anywhere near the levels required to do permanent damage to yourself. And it's not as if people take caffeine to get high, where there's a biochemical reward for ingesting more.


Gonna have to direct you here:  http://jcp.sagepub.com/content/7/3/131.extract
 
2013-02-26 10:41:53 PM

kasmel: This reminds me very much of the 'gum disease causes heart disease' BS that was floated around for a while.

Guess what. Oxygen is poisonous is large enough amounts. Drinking too much water too quickly will kill you.

I don't care if they want to study it, that's fine, but the breathiness and drama in that article are absurd.


And gravity...too much of that shiat will wreck you.
 
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