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2013-02-26 11:19:33 PM  

mab1823: Genevieve Marie: bhcompy: It has nothing to do with what we believe regarding porn, rather what society believes. Porn shouldn't hurt her, but, guess what, the real world exists and in that world porn hurts you unless you're already rich

That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean that people can't speak out and note that it's immoral to treat young women as sex objects and then punish them when they choose to step into that role.

Just so you know, you were *already* one of the only three people I have favorited on here...due to the JFP threads.


I still have you favorited from those too. I was happy to see you pop up in this thread :)
 
2013-02-26 11:20:34 PM  

Genevieve Marie: mab1823: Genevieve Marie: bhcompy: It has nothing to do with what we believe regarding porn, rather what society believes. Porn shouldn't hurt her, but, guess what, the real world exists and in that world porn hurts you unless you're already rich

That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean that people can't speak out and note that it's immoral to treat young women as sex objects and then punish them when they choose to step into that role.

Just so you know, you were *already* one of the only three people I have favorited on here...due to the JFP threads.

I still have you favorited from those too. I was happy to see you pop up in this thread :)


Your generosity is both appreciated greatly and cursed for the month of productivity you have given me.  :)
 
2013-02-26 11:21:18 PM  

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: She made the adult decision to do the video, and it had consequences that she didn't care to think about before hand. Unfortunately, she learned the hard way that she has to own up to her decisions and I don't know how me not feeling sorry for her is hypocritical.

If you enjoy the porn industry and the products it creates, yet simultaneously believe that women who work in that industry deserve any shame they might face for choosing to participate in creating the product you enjoy, you're a hypocrite. You see nothing wrong with enjoying the product- just with the creation of it. If enjoying porn is normal and not shameful, why should participating in porn be considered shameful and why should any ostracism people face for it be justifiable in your mind?

Also, there's no way she could have taken a low paying retail job and still been able to afford to enter Miss Teen Delaware. The lower level pageants are pretty cheap to enter but the Miss Teen USA pageant requires coaching, clothing and supplies. Not a bad investment though, if the payoff is a college scholarship.  (one of my friends from high school is a pageant coach and a former Miss Teen Louisiana)

I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that in this country, the jobs available to a teenager with a high school education are not going to provide a living wage, and that with that comes some financial desperation.


Entering an expensive pageant is not a necessity, and I'm pretty sure that you can find a job out of high school, it may not be the one you want and it may be low paying like waiting tables, but sometimes you have to start at the bottom, as do most people. She tried to take a shortcut: An hour of getting pounded by some stranger for a quick buck. Sometimes things that seem so easy don't work out in the end and this is her lesson.

She did the video knowing full well that such things disqualify her in the pageant. Women who enter the adult industry on their own accord should not expect that all facets of people will agree with their decisions. If they acknowledge that, then there is absolutely no shame in entering the industry. Live and let live. However, it is shameful to expect a pass from those people because "it's in the past", or that you were the somehow the victim, or you're being "slut shamed", and calling everyone hypocritical or a misogynist because they view your decisions differently. That's not being honest about what happened and not being responsible for your own actions.
 
2013-02-26 11:29:27 PM  

TotallyHeadless: but sometimes you have to start at the bottom, as do most people


Most people do not start out as the sole breadwinner at age 18. Most people have some sort of family network that helps them get a start in life of some sort. A full-time minimum wage job, which is what's available to an 18 year old high school kid pays $15,080 annually. That's not a living wage. That's a pretty desperate way to live actually- and it doesn't provide any wiggle room to get ahead. No time off. No sick leave and paid vacation and probably no medical insurance- and not much time to go to school. She certainly wouldn't be able to work forty hours and carry a full course load. Yea, she'd qualify for some financial aid (putting herself into student loan debt) but that still wouldn't cover everything. She'd still need to figure out how to at least pay for books on top of everything else.

Is it possible that MAYBE this could be done on a minimum wage job given exactly the right circumstances? Yea. But don't try and act like this isn't a Mount Everest climb out of poverty- that that kind of life doesn't take herculean effort. Or that if  you were 18, totally on your own, and had no idea where your life was going- you wouldn't be tempted by some quick money that could open other doors.

I just... really, really hate the "Someone didn't lead exactly the lifestyle I think they should lead, and therefore fark them, they get what they deserve" attitude. It's so lacking in compassion.
 
2013-02-26 11:50:21 PM  

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: but sometimes you have to start at the bottom, as do most people

Most people do not start out as the sole breadwinner at age 18. Most people have some sort of family network that helps them get a start in life of some sort. A full-time minimum wage job, which is what's available to an 18 year old high school kid pays $15,080 annually. That's not a living wage. That's a pretty desperate way to live actually- and it doesn't provide any wiggle room to get ahead. No time off. No sick leave and paid vacation and probably no medical insurance- and not much time to go to school. She certainly wouldn't be able to work forty hours and carry a full course load. Yea, she'd qualify for some financial aid (putting herself into student loan debt) but that still wouldn't cover everything. She'd still need to figure out how to at least pay for books on top of everything else.

Is it possible that MAYBE this could be done on a minimum wage job given exactly the right circumstances? Yea. But don't try and act like this isn't a Mount Everest climb out of poverty- that that kind of life doesn't take herculean effort. Or that if  you were 18, totally on your own, and had no idea where your life was going- you wouldn't be tempted by some quick money that could open other doors.

I just... really, really hate the "Someone didn't lead exactly the lifestyle I think they should lead, and therefore fark them, they get what they deserve" attitude. It's so lacking in compassion.


She was already in the pageant world. She almost certainly knew that this kind of work was frowned upon by the very people she sought validation from. There were other choices that were "harder", but she chose easy one, and now she can't continue in that world. That's life. There are no free lunches. And her story does not inspire me to call the pageant world misogynist or hypocritical because they laid out what they were about at the beginning.

Now, she will have to start over doing something else. That's unfortunate, but at least now she will think clearer about her long term goals and make decisions that are smarter.
 
2013-02-26 11:56:21 PM  

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: but sometimes you have to start at the bottom, as do most people

Most people do not start out as the sole breadwinner at age 18. Most people have some sort of family network that helps them get a start in life of some sort. A full-time minimum wage job, which is what's available to an 18 year old high school kid pays $15,080 annually. That's not a living wage. That's a pretty desperate way to live actually- and it doesn't provide any wiggle room to get ahead. No time off. No sick leave and paid vacation and probably no medical insurance- and not much time to go to school. She certainly wouldn't be able to work forty hours and carry a full course load. Yea, she'd qualify for some financial aid (putting herself into student loan debt) but that still wouldn't cover everything. She'd still need to figure out how to at least pay for books on top of everything else.

Is it possible that MAYBE this could be done on a minimum wage job given exactly the right circumstances? Yea. But don't try and act like this isn't a Mount Everest climb out of poverty- that that kind of life doesn't take herculean effort. Or that if  you were 18, totally on your own, and had no idea where your life was going- you wouldn't be tempted by some quick money that could open other doors.

I just... really, really hate the "Someone didn't lead exactly the lifestyle I think they should lead, and therefore fark them, they get what they deserve" attitude. It's so lacking in compassion.


You know what? That's the life many people live.  That's reality.  That was my reality, except I applied my ability and haven't worked a minimum wage job in my life.  I chose my hobbies wisely and parlayed them in to job skills, getting a job at 16 while also going to community college after high school to start early.  I made decisions then so I could be where I am now.  Sad for her that she didn't, but that's on her.  Ultimately in life you are responsible for yourself.
 
2013-02-26 11:58:25 PM  
I'm assuming papers were signed saying "you can't be in pornography", and she knew damn well she was lying as she signed them. There's really not much else to the story as far as the pageant people are concerned.

As far as the sob story goes, yes life sucks but there are lots of poor people that don't participate in pornography. She had options and this is the one she chose, for better or worse. Today it was worse.
 
2013-02-27 12:00:48 AM  
Pretty shiatty response from the pageant, but not wholly unexpected. I'll check out the video at a later time when it's not so crowded.  Just so I can form an opinion for myself.
 
2013-02-27 12:01:02 AM  

TotallyHeadless: Now, she will have to start over doing something else. That's unfortunate, but at least now she will think clearer about her long term goals and make decisions that are smarter.


Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr, it's right back to porn...

/Adversity doesn't always produce stronger people, sometimes it just breaks them...
//C'est la vie...bed's made and all that...
 
2013-02-27 12:02:07 AM  

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: but sometimes you have to start at the bottom, as do most people

Most people do not start out as the sole breadwinner at age 18. Most people have some sort of family network that helps them get a start in life of some sort. A full-time minimum wage job, which is what's available to an 18 year old high school kid pays $15,080 annually. That's not a living wage. That's a pretty desperate way to live actually- and it doesn't provide any wiggle room to get ahead. No time off. No sick leave and paid vacation and probably no medical insurance- and not much time to go to school. She certainly wouldn't be able to work forty hours and carry a full course load. Yea, she'd qualify for some financial aid (putting herself into student loan debt) but that still wouldn't cover everything. She'd still need to figure out how to at least pay for books on top of everything else.

Is it possible that MAYBE this could be done on a minimum wage job given exactly the right circumstances? Yea. But don't try and act like this isn't a Mount Everest climb out of poverty- that that kind of life doesn't take herculean effort. Or that if  you were 18, totally on your own, and had no idea where your life was going- you wouldn't be tempted by some quick money that could open other doors.


How much money do you think she was making from a short scene with a low tier amateur porn outlet? It definitely wasn't much. She would be better off with that minimum wage gig, it's steady and she'd qualify for all types of assistance.
 
2013-02-27 12:04:16 AM  
so farking other people is bad and horrible but waltzing around in high heels and a bikini like a piece of meat exposed for the masses is hunky dory?

weird, man. just weird.
 
2013-02-27 12:14:13 AM  

shotglasss: ultraholland: TotallyHeadless: Let's teach young women to avoid that humiliating sexual experience by celebrating those that chose not to do it. allowing them to enjoy it

This girl will survive. It will be in the news for a week and forgotten. She will have to live a low-profile life

I would not recognize her if I saw her on the street tomorrow. Nobody really gives two shiats about this.

For the most part, yes. However, assume you're the one dating her and a few months into it, your friend tells you who she is, or you get an anonymous link in an email to her video.

Would you still not give a shiat?


Are you kidding? She's has already shown some of the things she'll do for money now it's time to find out she'll do for love.

Unless you are dating a virgin you know that your partner has has sex at least once. Why would it matter if it was recorded?
 
2013-02-27 12:20:06 AM  

Philbb: shotglasss: ultraholland: TotallyHeadless: Let's teach young women to avoid that humiliating sexual experience by celebrating those that chose not to do it. allowing them to enjoy it

This girl will survive. It will be in the news for a week and forgotten. She will have to live a low-profile life

I would not recognize her if I saw her on the street tomorrow. Nobody really gives two shiats about this.

For the most part, yes. However, assume you're the one dating her and a few months into it, your friend tells you who she is, or you get an anonymous link in an email to her video.

Would you still not give a shiat?

Are you kidding? She's has already shown some of the things she'll do for money now it's time to find out she'll do for love.

Unless you are dating a virgin you know that your partner has has sex at least once. Why would it matter if it was recorded?


even better if it was recorded.

so, you know, you can judge technique
 
2013-02-27 12:34:22 AM  

Omahawg: even better if it was recorded.

so, you know, you can judge technique


Not to mention those times when she says, "Ew, I would never do that." and you can present her with video evidence to the contrary.
 
2013-02-27 12:37:48 AM  

Philbb: Omahawg: even better if it was recorded.

so, you know, you can judge technique

Not to mention those times when she says, "Ew, I would never do that." and you can present her with video evidence to the contrary.


That ALWAYS means "I would never do that  with you"...
 
2013-02-27 01:50:30 AM  
For those criticizing her: SHE'S EIGHTEEN! With a little more seasoning, she'll be rather passable for your porn viewing pleasure
 
2013-02-27 02:04:55 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: For those criticizing her: SHE'S EIGHTEEN! With a little more seasoning, she'll be rather passable for your porn viewing pleasure


Smgth would disagree. But to those who have read his postings, it's clear that he's a closeted homosexual who puts on a macho facade to mask his shame.
 
2013-02-27 02:09:55 AM  

Atomic Spunk: HaywoodJablonski: For those criticizing her: SHE'S EIGHTEEN! With a little more seasoning, she'll be rather passable for your porn viewing pleasure

Smgth would disagree. But to those who have read his postings, it's clear that he's a closeted homosexual who puts on a macho facade to mask his shame.


Awwwww. Still butthurt over losing arguments repeatedly and can only muster weak ad hominem attacks (cowardly hidden in responses to a third party) instead of rebutting legitimate arguments...

/Seems to me someone so insistent to paint someone else with the 'gay' brush has some issues.
 
2013-02-27 02:25:07 AM  

bhcompy: Ultimately in life you are responsible for yourself.


The real shame is that people should already know this.
 
2013-02-27 06:02:22 AM  

Atomic Spunk: People should never feel ashamed about having sex on video (unless it's illegal sex, of course). It's a fun activity that most adults enjoy. It's not something we should be ashamed of. Maybe one day our society will be enlightened enough not to vilify people because they chose to be in a porno.


This was someone who was a foster child from 12 to 18, and did the video for money almost right away after turning 18.

I doubt there was any joy or fun in it.
 
2013-02-27 06:05:54 AM  

LesserEvil: PC LOAD LETTER: They took the video down and I can't seem to find a search that turns up porn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE INTERNET!??!?!?

You have TF... you didn't try this link?


Thanks for the link. More importantly, the naked Kaley Cuoco pic link in the sidebar! Not sure if it is a photoshop or not, haven't seen too many pixels in my time. My computer probably now has a virus, you know, taking one for the team and all.
 
2013-02-27 06:06:49 AM  

Kibbler: Atomic Spunk: People should never feel ashamed about having sex on video (unless it's illegal sex, of course). It's a fun activity that most adults enjoy. It's not something we should be ashamed of. Maybe one day our society will be enlightened enough not to vilify people because they chose to be in a porno.

This was someone who was a foster child from 12 to 18, and did the video for money almost right away after turning 18.

I doubt there was any joy or fun in it.


Seriously.

I mean, look at her.

Fun is not what's going on here.

Someone allowing themselves to be exploited for money, yes. Fun, no.

This is more akin to 'Bum Fights'.
 
2013-02-27 06:32:11 AM  
video was fine....not sure why people are complaining about her just "laying there"....Not every girl/guy you have had sex with was a super Romeo.  And at 18, she is perfectly legal...nothing icky about it.

/would kill to have guilt free sex with a willing 18 yr old LOL!
//happily married and old...sigh...
 
2013-02-27 10:21:55 AM  

ultraholland: ctrl+f="nsfw"

Phrase not found.

ಠ_ಠ


It's right in the link
 
2013-02-27 10:39:07 AM  
I thought she was quite attractive both in face and body.

Too bad the vid, like too much of porn, was mainly focused on the guy's cock, and you saw very little of her except as a receptacle for it.

If male porn viewers are so into cock then why don't they just watch gay porn.
 
2013-02-27 10:51:00 AM  
I'm very disappointed that I can't find the whole video. Yeah, we get to see the main points, but I want the whole video, damn it.
 
2013-02-27 12:04:07 PM  

HairBolus: I thought she was quite attractive both in face and body.

Too bad the vid, like too much of porn, was mainly focused on the guy's cock, and you saw very little of her except as a receptacle for it.

If male porn viewers are so into cock then why don't they just watch gay porn.


Pretty sure that means the camera man is gay...
 
2013-02-27 12:46:00 PM  
Two things that some folks will not abide a differing opinion on: Religion and Porn.  I don't know whether that is irony or apropos.
 
2013-02-27 12:46:36 PM  
What a sad state of affairs is it when beauty queens have to resort to doing porn to get by instead of marrying some rich dude.
 
2013-02-27 12:50:34 PM  

MadAzza: ManateeGag: Lava Lamp Repairman: You gotta love the bullshiat sanctimony of beauty pageants - she has to resign from a position as "elected sexual object" because she participated in an porn movie...

i think its supposed to be about a wholesome image of a young woman. it's hard to portray wholesome with a cock in your mouth.

Try wearing a petticoat next time. I feel as wholesome as sh*t in that thing!


Favorited. Partially for this, partially for "Farkhemian Rhapsody."

/yeah, went looking for petticoat pics
//don't judge
///pic on bike still cute
 
2013-02-27 04:42:08 PM  

HairBolus: Too bad the vid, like too much of porn, was mainly focused on the guy's cock, and you saw very little of her except as a receptacle for it.

If male porn viewers are so into cock then why don't they just watch gay porn.


Have to agree with you there, porn these days seems to spend to much time in the close up view, I would rather take in the whole picture myself.  Kind of like the doggy position, no matter how you film it there's nothing to see. From the top its just her back and his stomach, from the side the best you get is a side shot of her boobs and from behind is nothing but the guys balls and ass crack. Nothing sexy about that what-so-ever.
 
2013-02-27 05:19:24 PM  
Delaware has a porn industry? Who knew? I was Delunaware of this.
 
2013-03-01 11:28:34 AM  
So...Last Post, I guess.
 
2013-03-01 04:46:21 PM  

Lava Lamp Repairman: So...Last Post, I guess.


Nope
 
2013-03-01 08:16:39 PM  
Revisited video, pretty bland.  I mean she didn't even do anal.  What is the world coming to when a fresh 18yo porn inductee won't even do anal?
 
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