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2013-02-26 09:52:36 PM

Smgth: Atomic Spunk: Smgth: Atomic Spunk: Smgth: Atomic Spunk: People should never feel ashamed about having sex on video (unless it's illegal sex, of course). It's a fun activity that most adults enjoy. It's not something we should be ashamed of. Maybe one day our society will be enlightened enough not to vilify people because they chose to be in a porno.

Correction. THIS chick should feel ashamed. Because she's awful at sex on video.

/If you want your farking to be seen by strangers, be prepared to be judged by strangers at how good you fark on film.

She's just a beginner - give the girl a break. She will improve as time goes on. She's cute, so she has that going for her.

So practice in private. You know why small children playing basketball isn't on TV? They SUCK!

This was...uncomfortable to watch. I know there's a market for this, but ick. There's also a market for all kinds of reprehensible shiat, but that doesn't mean I'm going to condone it.

You didn't pay to watch the video so shut your pie hole.

So only those who pay for things are allowed to have opinions?

/Better stop voting then...
//Your point is ridiculous is what I'm saying. I felt I needed to point this out to you in plain words lest you fail to grasp it.


I pay taxes, therefore I am entitled to an opinion.

/Your rebuttal is rubbish is what I'm saying. I felt I needed to point this out to you in plain words lest you fail to grasp it.
 
2013-02-26 09:56:43 PM

Genevieve Marie: Smgth: You think this porn popped up because someone had a personal vendetta against someone else who had a modicum of success?!?

Read the article. It was anonymously mailed in to Gawker. Three days ago, she tweeted something that insinuated she was being harassed by someone in her past.

I was actually drawing on the facts in the piece.


This isn't someone recording their fark session.  It's a "professional amateur" job.  Only thing that happened was that the producer found out who the girl was and sent an anonymous note to Gawker to get some extra sales.  That's all.  She made a real porno and now it's biting her in the ass.
 
2013-02-26 09:57:16 PM

ultraholland: shotglasss: For the most part, yes. However, assume you're the one dating her and a few months into it, your friend tells you who she is, or you get an anonymous link in an email to her video.

Would you still not give a shiat?

Ewww, no! I'm not dating a whore.


But she only did it for money one time!!!

SRSLY, the poor girl got caught up in something she probably regrets, and it'll follow her around for a long time. Haven't seen the vid and don't intend to. Hopefully she'll not suffer too much from it.
 
2013-02-26 09:57:28 PM

Atomic Spunk: Smgth: Atomic Spunk: Smgth: Atomic Spunk: Smgth: Atomic Spunk: People should never feel ashamed about having sex on video (unless it's illegal sex, of course). It's a fun activity that most adults enjoy. It's not something we should be ashamed of. Maybe one day our society will be enlightened enough not to vilify people because they chose to be in a porno.

Correction. THIS chick should feel ashamed. Because she's awful at sex on video.

/If you want your farking to be seen by strangers, be prepared to be judged by strangers at how good you fark on film.

She's just a beginner - give the girl a break. She will improve as time goes on. She's cute, so she has that going for her.

So practice in private. You know why small children playing basketball isn't on TV? They SUCK!

This was...uncomfortable to watch. I know there's a market for this, but ick. There's also a market for all kinds of reprehensible shiat, but that doesn't mean I'm going to condone it.

You didn't pay to watch the video so shut your pie hole.

So only those who pay for things are allowed to have opinions?

/Better stop voting then...
//Your point is ridiculous is what I'm saying. I felt I needed to point this out to you in plain words lest you fail to grasp it.

I pay taxes, therefore I am entitled to an opinion.

/Your rebuttal is rubbish is what I'm saying. I felt I needed to point this out to you in plain words lest you fail to grasp it.


So if I don't make enough money to pay taxes I'm not entitled to an opinion?

If I don't like a tv show I'm watching I can't have an opinion?

If I don't like your pointless comments on the Internet I can't have an opinion?

If my friend says something I disagree with I can't have an opinion?

/You aren't paying me, you aren't allowed to have an opinion on what I said.
 
2013-02-26 10:01:10 PM

LesserEvil: PC LOAD LETTER: They took the video down and I can't seem to find a search that turns up porn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE INTERNET!??!?!?

You have TF... you didn't try this link?


Why do they keep calling it a sex tape? Do sleazy reporters just not know the difference between amateur sex tape and professional porn shoot?
 
2013-02-26 10:05:25 PM
coont.
 
2013-02-26 10:06:00 PM

foxyshadis: LesserEvil: PC LOAD LETTER: They took the video down and I can't seem to find a search that turns up porn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE INTERNET!??!?!?

You have TF... you didn't try this link?

Why do they keep calling it a sex tape? Do sleazy reporters just not know the difference between amateur sex tape and professional porn shoot?


One gets more article page views...guess which.
 
2013-02-26 10:07:53 PM

Cheesehead_Dave: Her New Jersey?


THIS. Tom Collin knows this, EVERYBODY knows this. M-O-O-N, that spells New Jersey.
 
2013-02-26 10:08:04 PM
What really sucks is this takes her out of the running for a lot of things that could have helped make sure she's never in this position again. She aged out of the foster care system, did this to support herself, and got to a place where she was going to be eligible for a lot of scholarship money that would have helped her get an education. It would also have given her access to contacts that might have helped her compensate for the fact that she was raised with no support network.

Now that chance is being taken away because of sanctimonious judgment of a decision she made as a young woman in a vulnerable place.

That really, really sucks.
 
2013-02-26 10:09:06 PM
that's bullshiat. many pageant winners look like plastic dolls with layered paint. this sweetheart is actually fappable. she should be in porno. i'd like to be in a porno with her.
 
2013-02-26 10:11:49 PM

KrispyKritter: that's bullshiat. many pageant winners look like plastic dolls with layered paint. this sweetheart is actually fappable. she should be in porno. i'd like to be in a porno with her.


Agreed, I still think she needs a sammich, but just a little.

I'm sure with her looks, she will bounce back. Pretty people get everything :p
 
2013-02-26 10:11:53 PM

Florida pisses on Cuba: look, I'm in Miss Delaware


/sorry, had to correct that
//We fear change
 
2013-02-26 10:15:05 PM
Also, pro tip: If you love porn, but look down on the women who work in it, you just might be a douchey misogynist.
 
2013-02-26 10:16:00 PM

Genevieve Marie: Also, pro tip: If you love porn, but look down on the women who work in it, you just might be a douchey misogynist.


Don't forget hypocrite...
 
2013-02-26 10:19:11 PM

Smgth: idiocy


Look, feel free to let whatever rubbish you're thinking spew forward from your fingers. I don't give a fark. Anyone who thinks this girl should feel ashamed of what she did is a misogynistic fool. It's crystal clear from your anti-sex attitude that enjoying sex isn't something you're able to do, but that's no reason to heap your insecurities on the rest of us.
 
2013-02-26 10:20:01 PM

Oh_Enough_Already: I hope you're as sympathetic towards and willing to defend every black teen caught slinging crack or shooting a rival gang member, etc, as they're just as much decisions made by a young person in a "vulnerable place" which will have life changing and career altering consequences.


If you think that I'm not sympathetic to people raised in a culture of poverty and that I'm not aware of how often racial issues and poverty issues intersect, you haven't been reading my posts for very long.
 
2013-02-26 10:21:15 PM

Smgth: ReapTheChaos: Smgth: basemetal: Smgth: Good thing she quit porn, she's not very good at it...

 Does she just lay there?

To a degree. She did a few different things, all of them in a sort of half-embarrassed sort of giggly unenthusiastic and inexpert way.

/Reviewing porn. THIS is what my life has come to...
//*sigh*

This is why I've never understood the appeal of teen porn, I mean sure, they look damn hot but they don't know jack shiat about sex at that age. 30s is the best age for porn actresses, still young enough to look good but experienced enough to be an uninhibited slut.

And teens also often look like they don't really want to be there. Which is creepy. And they're often way too skinny. Which is creepy.

/Great, a porn thread and I'm farking depressed now.


I posted that before I actually saw the clip, after watching it I'll also add that wasn't even porn in my opinion. That was taking a girl to a hotel and paying her for sex. The fact that he filmed it was inconsequential, it was prostitution and nothing more.

I see these kind of videos on porn sites all the time, sometimes listed under the "casting couch" or "POV" category and I don't see how they even qualify as porn. The only thing this one had going for it is they used a cameraman, typically they do the filming themselves. (hence the POV)

What bugs me about it is this. If you straight up asked if they would have sex with you for money, most of those girls would say hell no, but say it's a "porn movie" and that gives an air of legitimacy to it so they agree. Like I said above though, those sort of "porn videos" are nothing but a loophole in the prostitution laws in my opinion.
 
2013-02-26 10:21:55 PM

Genevieve Marie: What really sucks is this takes her out of the running for a lot of things that could have helped make sure she's never in this position again. She aged out of the foster care system, did this to support herself, and got to a place where she was going to be eligible for a lot of scholarship money that would have helped her get an education. It would also have given her access to contacts that might have helped her compensate for the fact that she was raised with no support network.

Now that chance is being taken away because of sanctimonious judgment of a decision she made as a young woman in a vulnerable place.

That really, really sucks.


As a former ward of the court with no parents, I feel no sympathy.  She used her body to get her those scholarships, then used her body again to get a paycheck.  Perhaps she should try applying her mind instead.  And if she wants to continue using her body, she can get back in to porn or find a breadwinner.
 
2013-02-26 10:22:26 PM

ultraholland: TotallyHeadless: Let's teach young women to avoid that humiliating sexual experience by celebrating those that chose not to do it. allowing them to enjoy it

This girl will survive. It will be in the news for a week and forgotten. She will have to live a low-profile life

I would not recognize her if I saw her on the street tomorrow. Nobody really gives two shiats about this.


Well, then why did she resign? 

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: I really don't think being used and abused by a bunch of opportunistic porn producers is something we want our young women to aspire to.

I don't think being used and abused and exploited makes the young woman in question a bad person. I think it says a lot more about how terrible that industry can be to young women than it does about this particular young woman's character.

I think it would have actually been really amazing and empowering to have someone in a role model position who'd been through a humiliating sexual experience, didn't let it define her and moved on with her life.

Let's teach young women to avoid that humiliating sexual experience by celebrating those that chose not to do it. Redemption is great, but sometimes examples of embarrassment and shame can be used as teaching moments for others.

This girl will survive. It will be in the news for a week and forgotten. She will have to live a low-profile life, but sometimes mistakes have life-long consequences.

Spoken like someone who never had to navigate the incredibly weird messages thrown at teenage girls- the be sexy to others, but exude purity bullshiat. Be sexy but don't be sexual, and certainly don't exhibit any control over your own sexuality. Be someone who's desired by others, but who doesn't show desire. It's crap, and it sucks, and people really need to get over the whole idea that a young woman is tarnished forever as a person if she makes a single misstep while navigating this mindfark.

This girl was raised in the foster care system. The fact that she came out of it as well as she did is nothing short of amazing- and it's not at all shocking that with her looks and the lack of financial and parental support, she was an easy target for a predatory industry.

It's foul that someone from her past decided that too many good things had happened to her, and she deserved to come down a few pegs, and it's foul that the pageant organization and ...


I'm not the one to convince. I agree that there is no congruence in the messages we give young people. However, I don't do advertising, sell fashion magazines, reality television, or hold teenage beauty pageants, so there is nothing I can much do about it until I have kids of my own. Really there is a need for a cultural shift away from making everything about how sexy (for young women) or studly (for young men) you are to what have you accomplished that is positive and useful for the world. Sadly, most positive young people are completely obscured by the "sexy" ones.

Call me a prude or mean or whatever, but personal responsibility is still a virtue that should be lauded and irresponsibility should be discourage. Nobody gets upset when a young person permanently injuries themselves if they were doing something idiotic like doing unnecessary stunts or something. Most people just say: "Don't be dumb." In the case of this girl, I think the embarrassment from this episode is similar and she will have to live with it, but that comes with the territory when you make adult decisions.
 
2013-02-26 10:23:33 PM

Lava Lamp Repairman: Genevieve Marie: Yup. There are a whole lot of men who really enjoy watching porn and don't see anything hypocritical about looking down on the people who create the product they enjoy so much and implying they're subhuman trash who don't have feelings

Yeah, the hypocrisy is what really gets me...most of the male judges are probably old enough to be her grandfather yet they're lusting after barely nubile nymphets, while the females hate her for doing what they have never allowed themselves to do - but probably wanted to. It's just sad, IMO.


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Quit farking around and just write your damned Набоков book report.
 
2013-02-26 10:25:18 PM

bhcompy: She used her body to get her those scholarships, then used her body again to get a paycheck. Perhaps she should try applying her mind instead.


That's pretty sanctimonious. Beauty pageants aren't my thing, but I completely understand the appeal they'd have to a girl looking for a way to move herself forward in life- the prizes for a contest like that are pretty good, even more so for the girls that place at the national pageant.

Like it or not, we live in a culture that commodifies the bodies of attractive young women. Looking at  them with disdain if they end up falling back on that for a minute to pay the rent is pretty cruel.
 
2013-02-26 10:26:45 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Quit farking around and just write your damned Набоков book report.


I first heard that expression back in '76 or so, and never pass up an opportunity to repeat it.
 
2013-02-26 10:27:28 PM

Genevieve Marie: What really sucks is this takes her out of the running for a lot of things that could have helped make sure she's never in this position again. She aged out of the foster care system, did this to support herself, and got to a place where she was going to be eligible for a lot of scholarship money that would have helped her get an education. It would also have given her access to contacts that might have helped her compensate for the fact that she was raised with no support network.

Now that chance is being taken away because of sanctimonious judgment of a decision she made as a young woman in a vulnerable place.

That really, really sucks.


Really?  So, she gets no blame for the decision she made to make the porno, then getting into the pageant biz, knowing this might come back and bite her in the ass?

Listen, I understand there are a lot of women who are taken advantage of in the porn industry.  But It seems like she made all the choices that led her to this point.  If she did it for money or kicks, It doesn't matter.  She knew that the pageant industry would frown on such shenanigans, and yet she took that route.

Her past caught up with her.  No one but herself to blame.
 
2013-02-26 10:27:48 PM

TotallyHeadless: Call me a prude or mean or whatever, but personal responsibility is still a virtue that should be lauded and irresponsibility should be discourag

ed

She participated in a legal industry as a means of paying her bills when she didn't see another option. The only reason to consider that irresponsible is if you consider porn inherently shameful.

Which you know, if you do, that's fine- but I hope you don't ever watch it, because watching and enjoying porn while looking down on the people who create it is pretty hypocritical.
 
2013-02-26 10:28:05 PM

Atomic Spunk: Smgth: idiocy

Look, feel free to let whatever rubbish you're thinking spew forward from your fingers. I don't give a fark. Anyone who thinks this girl should feel ashamed of what she did is a misogynistic fool. It's crystal clear from your anti-sex attitude that enjoying sex isn't something you're able to do, but that's no reason to heap your insecurities on the rest of us.


Nice straw man rebuttal. I see my point was proven. Your jumping to 'sex shaming' and 'antisex' is also as ridiculous and unfounded as your previous failed argument. Did I sex isn't great? Do it. Enjoy it. But don't expect uncomfortable fumbling to be appealing to all people. If you enjoy dead-eyed depressed women who are desperate for money having sex because they need a sandwich, more power to you.
 
2013-02-26 10:30:35 PM
Yea, I think I'm going to go take a bubble bath with a glass of wine and read something fun. I'm really, really over this bullshiat cultural tendency to treat young attractive women like they exist for the pleasure of others and then blame them if they buy into that idea and go with it.
 
2013-02-26 10:30:43 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: They took the video down and I can't seem to find a search that turns up porn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE INTERNET!??!?!?


Link in the article worked for me. Worked in more ways than one

/fap
 
2013-02-26 10:31:41 PM

Genevieve Marie: Also, pro tip: If you love porn, but look down on the women who work in it, you just might be a douchey misogynist.


Or you might be the guy in the video in the last scene.
 
2013-02-26 10:32:53 PM

Lava Lamp Repairman: demaL-demaL-yeH: Quit farking around and just write your damned Набоков book report.

I first heard that expression back in '76 or so, and never pass up an opportunity to repeat it.


You are now farkied as Humbert H. Humbert.
 
2013-02-26 10:35:20 PM

Genevieve Marie: Yea, I think I'm going to go take a bubble bath with a glass of wine and read something fun. I'm really, really over this bullshiat cultural tendency to treat young attractive women like they exist for the pleasure of others and then blame them if they buy into that idea and go with it.


You don't normally leave openings like that. Looking to beef up your ignore list, or your misogynist troglodyte basement-dweller list?

/Did you try soufganiot?
 
2013-02-26 10:37:49 PM

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: Call me a prude or mean or whatever, but personal responsibility is still a virtue that should be lauded and irresponsibility should be discouraged

She participated in a legal industry as a means of paying her bills when she didn't see another option. The only reason to consider that irresponsible is if you consider porn inherently shameful.

Which you know, if you do, that's fine- but I hope you don't ever watch it, because watching and enjoying porn while looking down on the people who create it is pretty hypocritical.


She could have worked retail, she could have worked at an office, she could intern at aTV station or a newspaper or any other industry. She was certainly capable enough to do any of those things. Christ, she had already won a pageant before she did the video!

She made the adult decision to do the video, and it had consequences that she didn't care to think about before hand. Unfortunately, she learned the hard way that she has to own up to her decisions and I don't know how me not feeling sorry for her is hypocritical.
 
2013-02-26 10:38:36 PM

Oh_Enough_Already: Like young men who try and make it in sports, or music, or as soldiers?


When has a young man ever been criticized for trying to pay his way in the world by going into sports, music, or the military?

Pretty sure we throw parades in their honor.
 
2013-02-26 10:38:45 PM

Genevieve Marie: bhcompy: She used her body to get her those scholarships, then used her body again to get a paycheck. Perhaps she should try applying her mind instead.

That's pretty sanctimonious. Beauty pageants aren't my thing, but I completely understand the appeal they'd have to a girl looking for a way to move herself forward in life- the prizes for a contest like that are pretty good, even more so for the girls that place at the national pageant.

Like it or not, we live in a culture that commodifies the bodies of attractive young women. Looking at  them with disdain if they end up falling back on that for a minute to pay the rent is pretty cruel.


You misconstrue a lack of sympathy, or indifference, for disdain.  You know what help I got when my mother off'd herself with a .44 in our house?  A paltry death benefit to pay for things like food and education.  You know what it really paid for? My father's drug and alcohol addiction.  You know what help I got when my father embezzled the remainder and ran off? Nothing.  Nothing at all.  I had the rug pulled out from under me, yet somehow I managed to work my way through college, into a decent job with a decent salary, and managed to become a parent and prove to myself that I was better in every way than my parents.

I hold no disdain for this woman.  She made her choices, and now she has to reap the consequences.  As someone who lived that life, you're forced be more mature than your years in your decision making, and if you aren't it's because of aptitude and having a real family wouldn't have changed that.
 
2013-02-26 10:41:58 PM

Genevieve Marie: Ugh. This sucks and I really, really wish organizations would stop sending the message that if a young woman is discovered being sexual on film she automatically becomes a terrible role model.

The slut shaming by these organizations is really repulsive.


The biggest slut shamers have been feminist organizations protesting Playboy's Girls of the _____ issues. For posing naked, not even porn. There's been some change of heart lately but it's hard to take feminists seriously on the slut-shaming issue after hearing for so long how being in Playboy was a crime against all women.
 
2013-02-26 10:44:37 PM

TotallyHeadless: She made the adult decision to do the video, and it had consequences that she didn't care to think about before hand. Unfortunately, she learned the hard way that she has to own up to her decisions and I don't know how me not feeling sorry for her is hypocritical.


If you enjoy the porn industry and the products it creates, yet simultaneously believe that women who work in that industry deserve any shame they might face for choosing to participate in creating the product you enjoy, you're a hypocrite. You see nothing wrong with enjoying the product- just with the creation of it. If enjoying porn is normal and not shameful, why should participating in porn be considered shameful and why should any ostracism people face for it be justifiable in your mind?

Also, there's no way she could have taken a low paying retail job and still been able to afford to enter Miss Teen Delaware. The lower level pageants are pretty cheap to enter but the Miss Teen USA pageant requires coaching, clothing and supplies. Not a bad investment though, if the payoff is a college scholarship.  (one of my friends from high school is a pageant coach and a former Miss Teen Louisiana)

I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that in this country, the jobs available to a teenager with a high school education are not going to provide a living wage, and that with that comes some financial desperation.
 
2013-02-26 10:44:41 PM

Christian Bale: Genevieve Marie: Ugh. This sucks and I really, really wish organizations would stop sending the message that if a young woman is discovered being sexual on film she automatically becomes a terrible role model.

The slut shaming by these organizations is really repulsive.

The biggest slut shamers have been feminist organizations protesting Playboy's Girls of the _____ issues. For posing naked, not even porn. There's been some change of heart lately but it's hard to take feminists seriously on the slut-shaming issue after hearing for so long how being in Playboy was a crime against all women.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net

For visual assistance, the feminist is the one on the right.
 
2013-02-26 10:48:19 PM

Christian Bale: Genevieve Marie: Ugh. This sucks and I really, really wish organizations would stop sending the message that if a young woman is discovered being sexual on film she automatically becomes a terrible role model.

The slut shaming by these organizations is really repulsive.

The biggest slut shamers have been feminist organizations protesting Playboy's Girls of the _____ issues. For posing naked, not even porn. There's been some change of heart lately but it's hard to take feminists seriously on the slut-shaming issue after hearing for so long how being in Playboy was a crime against all women.


You're really going to say that because second wave feminism existed, third wave feminists can't be critical of slut shaming? Really?

Third wave feminism is very sex positive. I actually have a pretty extensive vintage Playboy collection- I used some of the 1960s articles as examples of sex positivity towards women for a project. But sure, let's go with "Let's imply that all feminists are responsible for protests that took place twenty years ago". I was 8. I was highly influential in the movement at the time, let me tell you.
 
2013-02-26 10:54:28 PM

Oh_Enough_Already: And, as others have pointed out, her performance was abysmal, so no one will be rushing to hire her to do any more born based on that.


Her performance was abysmal because she had no real desire to be doing what she was doing.

It's hard to fail at being a whore, but Ms. King may be a case study in how to do it.

Really? It's hard to fail at being a whore? I think most girls her age would fail at being a whore for the simple fact that very few have the necessary experience at that age to even be one. It actually takes quite a bit of effort and determination to be a whore by age 18.
 
2013-02-26 10:55:25 PM

Genevieve Marie: Christian Bale: Genevieve Marie: Ugh. This sucks and I really, really wish organizations would stop sending the message that if a young woman is discovered being sexual on film she automatically becomes a terrible role model.

The slut shaming by these organizations is really repulsive.

The biggest slut shamers have been feminist organizations protesting Playboy's Girls of the _____ issues. For posing naked, not even porn. There's been some change of heart lately but it's hard to take feminists seriously on the slut-shaming issue after hearing for so long how being in Playboy was a crime against all women.

You're really going to say that because second wave feminism existed, third wave feminists can't be critical of slut shaming? Really?

Third wave feminism is very sex positive. I actually have a pretty extensive vintage Playboy collection- I used some of the 1960s articles as examples of sex positivity towards women for a project. But sure, let's go with "Let's imply that all feminists are responsible for protests that took place twenty years ago". I was 8. I was highly influential in the movement at the time, let me tell you.


You saying 8 year old girls can't be leading feminist role models?! Misogynist.

/Couldn't help myself.
//Almost sorry.
 
2013-02-26 10:56:08 PM

Smgth: /Couldn't help myself.
//Almost sorry.


I laughed.
 
2013-02-26 10:57:43 PM

Genevieve Marie: TotallyHeadless: She made the adult decision to do the video, and it had consequences that she didn't care to think about before hand. Unfortunately, she learned the hard way that she has to own up to her decisions and I don't know how me not feeling sorry for her is hypocritical.

If you enjoy the porn industry and the products it creates, yet simultaneously believe that women who work in that industry deserve any shame they might face for choosing to participate in creating the product you enjoy, you're a hypocrite. You see nothing wrong with enjoying the product- just with the creation of it. If enjoying porn is normal and not shameful, why should participating in porn be considered shameful and why should any ostracism people face for it be justifiable in your mind?

Also, there's no way she could have taken a low paying retail job and still been able to afford to enter Miss Teen Delaware. The lower level pageants are pretty cheap to enter but the Miss Teen USA pageant requires coaching, clothing and supplies. Not a bad investment though, if the payoff is a college scholarship.  (one of my friends from high school is a pageant coach and a former Miss Teen Louisiana)

I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that in this country, the jobs available to a teenager with a high school education are not going to provide a living wage, and that with that comes some financial desperation.


It has nothing to do with what we believe regarding porn, rather what society believes.  Porn shouldn't hurt her, but, guess what, the real world exists and in that world porn hurts you unless you're already rich.  Everyone knows this already.  Unless she's trying to be a trailblazer, she made a bad decision.  That's on her.  Not on us, not on society.

As far as jobs, that's the life that everyone has to put up with.  She's not special in that regard.  Hell, if she files her FAFSA with her status, she's able to ride on loans and grants through at least the first year of college.
 
2013-02-26 11:00:23 PM

bhcompy: It has nothing to do with what we believe regarding porn, rather what society believes. Porn shouldn't hurt her, but, guess what, the real world exists and in that world porn hurts you unless you're already rich


That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean that people can't speak out and note that it's immoral to treat young women as sex objects and then punish them when they choose to step into that role.
 
2013-02-26 11:03:36 PM
It's too late to start posting pics of scantily clad ladies into this thread now, isn't it?

/I'd hate to make it all weird...
 
2013-02-26 11:05:52 PM
The dude will also be vilified for thi...oh wait, his face is never on camera.
 
2013-02-26 11:09:10 PM
That was one of the worst porns I ever saw. You don't get to see her naughty bits and she isn't even into it. And neither is he.
 
2013-02-26 11:09:30 PM

jaytkay: AcesFull: BetterOffJed: flaminio: What did Delaware?

I dunno, Alaska...

Whatever it was, I'm sure she got it from Miss Idaho.


  her Virginia was too large..

Hawaii you guys being so mean?


Tact. Nevada, never will.
 
2013-02-26 11:09:56 PM

Genevieve Marie: bhcompy: It has nothing to do with what we believe regarding porn, rather what society believes. Porn shouldn't hurt her, but, guess what, the real world exists and in that world porn hurts you unless you're already rich

That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean that people can't speak out and note that it's immoral to treat young women as sex objects and then punish them when they choose to step into that role.


Doesn't make it right, but makes it reality.  Idealism is a lovely sentiment, but reality is like the honeybadger: it doesn't give a fark.
 
2013-02-26 11:10:35 PM

mab1823: The dude will also be vilified for thi...oh wait, his face is never on camera.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight, cause if his face popped up every few seconds, next to a pic of his driver's license and SS card, he'd get ANY shaming, or vilification or anything but a high five....
 
2013-02-26 11:13:03 PM

ManateeGag: i think its supposed to be about a wholesome image of a young woman. it's hard to portray wholesome with a cock in your mouth.


If she did anal in the video, I'd agree (not that I have a problem with that)...but I'm guessing that 80% of 18 year old girls have performed fellatio or had sex.  Most don't do it on camera...but with the propensity of younger women to make videos or take nude/semi-nude self shots, they're going to have a hard time finding contestants that don't have any skeletons in their closet.
 
2013-02-26 11:18:27 PM

Genevieve Marie: bhcompy: It has nothing to do with what we believe regarding porn, rather what society believes. Porn shouldn't hurt her, but, guess what, the real world exists and in that world porn hurts you unless you're already rich

That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean that people can't speak out and note that it's immoral to treat young women as sex objects and then punish them when they choose to step into that role.


Just so you know, you were *already* one of the only three people I have favorited on here...due to the JFP threads.
 
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