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(Travel + Leisure)   Travel + Leisure magazine ranks the 20 best US cities for pizza. Naturally, Chicago is #1   (travelandleisure.com) divider line 253
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2013-02-26 08:08:00 PM
I make my own most of the time.

/haters gonna hate
 
2013-02-26 08:08:23 PM
We don't have any good pizza places where I live. When I first moved here, everyone raved about this place across the street, they thought it was the best pizza they'd ever eaten, so I tried it. Holy crap, was it bad. It was like the pizza you get in the cafeteria, at school. The worst part was the orange cheese. There are a few different types of cheese that are good on pizza, but I can assure you: none of them are orange.
 
2013-02-26 08:08:42 PM
I don't know how or why San Francisco made that list, but I strongly disagree.
I've been searching for 14 years for good pizza in San Francisco, and it just sucks here.
There are a couple of slices to go places that are ok, but really,  90% of the pizza really really really really sucks here.
 
2013-02-26 08:09:05 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: isn't Detroit where all the big names come from? Domino's, Jet's, etc..??


Don't forget Little Caesar's.  Seriously, Detroit should be on that list.  Buddy's,  Loui's, Suppino's, etc...
 
2013-02-26 08:09:40 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.

Truth.  The other reason is time, you really have to let the dough sit overnight for a really good crust.  I have a great secret to homemade pizza:  don't use a pizza stone, cook it on a broiler tray, one of the wavy ones with holes for grease.  It makes the crust wavy and the air passes through and crisps it perfectly.


Broiler tray is a great idea. Kick starter a round shaped one, make a billion dollars.
 
2013-02-26 08:17:45 PM

no clever name here just move along: I don't know how or why San Francisco made that list, but I strongly disagree.
I've been searching for 14 years for good pizza in San Francisco, and it just sucks here.
There are a couple of slices to go places that are ok, but really,  90% of the pizza really really really really sucks here.


Well I wouldn't call it much of a pizza town. Great culinary town but you shouldn't expect their version of east coast or southern food to be good if you're a transplant from one of those places. BTW, I hate California style pizza with its goofy toppings.
 
2013-02-26 08:17:57 PM

neongoats: I have a great secret to homemade pizza:  don't use a pizza stone, cook it on a broiler tray, one of the wavy ones with holes for grease.  It makes the crust wavy and the air passes through and crisps it perfectly.

Broiler tray is a great idea. Kick starter a round shaped one, make a billion dollars.


My experience is, buy a round pizza sheet pan with holes on the bottom for normal oven pizza cooking.

If you're cooking pizza on the grill outside, or attempting the 900-degree-F oven on Clean cycle, then go pizza stone.
 
2013-02-26 08:18:06 PM

Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.


no new haven? absolute fail
 
2013-02-26 08:19:27 PM

Deadfeznt: New Hav


wow i should read the thread first
 
2013-02-26 08:21:54 PM

Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.


That list is a pile of crap if San Diego and Portland made it on.
 
2013-02-26 08:23:03 PM

401kman: Where the frick is New Haven?  Yeah San Diego has better pizza than New Haven.  Give me a farking break.  I was in San Diego recently and literally scoured the godammed town block by block ready to kill for decent pizza.  I found one sort of ok pizza, and it was not even in the same ball park as a New Haven joint!!!

Grow up this list is retarded.


Don't even try to replicate your east coast pizza experience here in San Diego.  It'll just make you sad.  Go for a carne asada burrito, or fish tacos, or even pho instead.   For a truly orgasmic fatty-fat-fat experience, go to Lolita's in Kearney Mesa and get a "2-in-1" burrito.  Carne asada burrito with two rolled tacos crammed inside.

That said, I happen to like Oggi's--nice bready crust, good sauce (not too sweet, nice and herby).  Pepperoni, red onion and goat cheese.  mmmmmm.  Goes very nicely with their beer.  Pizza Port is good too, the artichoke heart and shrimp pizza is really tasty if you're in the right mood, and once again--it goes great with the beer brewed on site.  The most important part is the beer of course.

/San Diego native who went to college in Boston.
//A San Diegan dorm-mate almost cried when I brought carne asada burritos back from a trip home for spring break.
///There is *zero* edible Mexican food in the whole goddamn state of Massachusetts.
 
2013-02-26 08:26:13 PM
fark this
 
2013-02-26 08:30:16 PM
How the Fark is KC even on the list?
 
2013-02-26 08:34:09 PM

greggm59: dletter: Chicago Deep Dish/Stuffed pizza is not traditional "pizza"... it is what it is, yes, maybe even a cassarole.  But, if you are in the mood for it, and go to a place that makes a tasty pizza (Giordanos for instance), then it is good.   There was a place up when I lived in Highwood, I think it might have been in Highland Park, that was an awesome deep dish, sauce was excellent... this was like 15 years ago though, so, don't recall the name or if they'd even still be there.

But, beyond that anyway, Chicago Thin-crust demolishes NY style thin crust.

On a third note, hopefully GreggM shows up to this thread, since I tried making his recipe for a chicago style thin crust pizza, which while the pizza "construction" wasn't bad, but, the sauce recipe I tried didn't pan out well, so, want to get his advice on that.

Pizza sauce, like anything else, is very subjective taste wise. That being said, it's not uncommon around the Chicago area for thin crust sauce to have a touch of sweetness and go light on the herbs. Most important is to start with high quality tomatoes (6in1 brand is my favorite) and not to get carried away with a lot of added ingredients. Typically, for a 28 oz can of tomatoes, I'll add one teaspoon each of dried basil, dried oregano and white sugar (which also cuts down on the acidity of the tomatoes), 1/2 teaspoon of salt and 1/8 teaspoon of garlic powder. Mix all of these ingredients together in a glass jar and refrigerate for a day or two before using to allow the flavors to blend. This is a good starting point and one that will agree with most anyone. Occasionally, I'll add maybe a 1/2 teaspoon paprika or onion powder and a pinch of black pepper for a bit of added zing. The leftover sauce freezes well also. I like my pizza kind of on the "wet" side, so I use 4 oz of sauce for a 10-inch diameter pie and 8 oz for one that measures 14 inches. Remember, it's all about satisfying your taste buds and not those of the self-appointed of arbiters of authen ...


Thanks... I found a few ones for Chicago "sweet" sauce online, one had some cinnamon in it, while I (I believe unwisely) decided to try.  Yours is pretty close to a few others, so, I'll probably go that route next time.
 
2013-02-26 08:36:04 PM

Current Resident: [i.imgur.com image 361x1500]


Aw, come on now, our pizza IS pretty good.
 
2013-02-26 08:38:23 PM
Hmm...I might just bake up a Crawfish Pizza with a dash of BBQ sauce to celebrate my home states of Louisiana/Texas
 
2013-02-26 08:38:27 PM
Living in Providence I have both Caserta's and Tommy's in less than a 2 mile radius of my home. Its around 3% of why I'm still living here.
 
2013-02-26 08:39:59 PM

ElBarto79: Last time I was in Chi-Town we were strolling around Lincoln Park and popped across the street to this place; Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder.  I'm not gonna say it was the best pizza I've ever had but it was definitely the most unique, and pretty damn good.  It's basically a bread bowl which is completely filled with piles of cheese, sauce and toppings.  Definitely worth a try, yum.


I may have to try the pizza there sometime. I was there about a month ago and decided to try their meatball grinder. The meatballs were like rocks and it gave me the runs. Yay. They get such good reviews I must be missing something.

Anywho, Providence sshould be number 1. Caserta's rocks, and most of the corner pizza places throughout RI are good.
 
2013-02-26 08:44:05 PM

Bonzo_1116: 401kman: Where the frick is New Haven?  Yeah San Diego has better pizza than New Haven.  Give me a farking break.  I was in San Diego recently and literally scoured the godammed town block by block ready to kill for decent pizza.  I found one sort of ok pizza, and it was not even in the same ball park as a New Haven joint!!!

Grow up this list is retarded.

Don't even try to replicate your east coast pizza experience here in San Diego.  It'll just make you sad.  Go for a carne asada burrito, or fish tacos, or even pho instead.   For a truly orgasmic fatty-fat-fat experience, go to Lolita's in Kearney Mesa and get a "2-in-1" burrito.  Carne asada burrito with two rolled tacos crammed inside.

No doubt the burrito's out there are killer.

 I wasn't really trying to replicate my experience  per se.  I was totally trying to soak up the local flavor.

That said, I happen to like Oggi's--nice bready crust, good sauce (not too sweet, nice and herby).  Pepperoni, red onion and goat cheese.  mmmmmm.  Goes very nicely with their beer.  Pizza Port is good too, the artichoke heart and shrimp pizza is really tasty if you're in the right mood, and once again--it goes great with the beer brewed on site.  The most important part is the beer of course.

I like my sauce sweet and garlicky.  Pizza port is good, I tried that and the artichoke heart and shrimp pizza sounds lovely.  The beer was fantastic.  I couldn't get enough of the beer out there.  San Diego has to be the best beer town I have been too.

/San Diego native who went to college in Boston.

How does the New England seafood compare to the California seafood?

///There is *zero* edible Mexican food in the whole goddamn state of Massachusetts.

Amen to that.  If you are ever in the Lower East Side in NYC go to a place called Lower East Side Taqueria.  It's pretty good.  NYC gets homesick California natives that open up decent places here.  Not as good as out there but pretty good.

But seriously try any one of
Pauli Gee's
De Fara's
Totonno's
Patsy's in Harlem
(insert another italian name)'s
Johnny's in Mt Vernon
Best Pizza
Lucali's
Mottorino's
Artichoke Pizza


Like I listed above next time you are in NYC and you will not be sorry.
 
2013-02-26 08:45:05 PM
List is FAIL without New Haven.
 
2013-02-26 08:45:59 PM

libranoelrose: How the Fark is KC even on the list?


Probably based on ad revenue.  It's about as confusing as San Antonio on this list.  Sorry not even close.
 
2013-02-26 08:46:00 PM

Current Resident: [i.imgur.com image 361x1500]


I'm from St. Louis and that literally made me laugh out loud.

/Indifferent towards St. Louis-style pizza
 
2013-02-26 08:46:02 PM
images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Seriously though I prefer New York style. Or this...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-26 08:47:09 PM
Too bad you will be shot on the sidewalk right after you eat.
 
2013-02-26 08:51:51 PM

Mrtraveler01: Current Resident: [i.imgur.com image 361x1500]

I'm from St. Louis and that literally made me laugh out loud.

/Indifferent towards St. Louis-style pizza


What's the third skyline? I recognized Chicago and St. Louis but the other is hard to pick out on my phone.
 
2013-02-26 08:52:21 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: exick: I only clicked to make sure St. Louis isn't within 500 miles of that list.

St. Louis style's not bad. Unless you consider the unholy abomination that is Imo's to be "pizza," in which there's no hope for you.


I recommend this place if you want to give St. Louis pizza a second chance:

slice.seriouseats.com

(Easily the best pizza in St. Louis)
 
2013-02-26 08:53:00 PM

elchip: Mrtraveler01: Current Resident: [i.imgur.com image 361x1500]

I'm from St. Louis and that literally made me laugh out loud.

/Indifferent towards St. Louis-style pizza

What's the third skyline? I recognized Chicago and St. Louis but the other is hard to pick out on my phone.


New York. It's Manhattan at night.
 
2013-02-26 08:53:33 PM
"These days, you can find decent, or even excellent, New York-style pizza in almost any medium-sized to large city in America," says Brooklyn-based writer Jeff Turrentine.

This guy obviously has no clue what he's talking about.
 
2013-02-26 08:55:27 PM

401kman: How does the New England seafood compare to the California seafood?


They're different, but both good. You just need to know what they actually catch there.

I had this thing called a "seafood bake" in Connecticut one time that I thought would clog my arteries immediately. A little casserole dish filled with scallops and lobster and what I think was chunks of cod in a creamy cheesy white sauce, with a golden toasted cheddary crust on top. Served with fresh baked italian bread rolls. Sooooooooooooo good.

Why they don't put scallops on pizza I'll never know. They cook fast, and are delicious in tomato based sauces, and take cheese well.
 
2013-02-26 09:10:48 PM
Why all the New Haven love?
 
2013-02-26 09:13:34 PM

FriarReb98: Shostie: 2. Providence, R.I.

As long as they're referring to Caserta's and not the godawful Rhode Island tradition of un-cheesed pizza....

FTFA:The Rhode Island capital held onto its silver medal position from last year, perhaps because, like Chicago, it offers an only-in-Providence pie: grilled pizza, where the dough is cooked on one side, then flipped before the toppings are added. A great place to try it is downtown's Bacaro, whose chef is from Al Forno, home of the original grilled pizza. To go a layer deeper into the city's pizza culture, sample the pizza strips-topped with just sauce-found at LaSalle Bakery.

Fark you NO.  That no-cheese pizza is the worst stuff on earth.  It's almost always cold, too.  And seriously, how can you talk about the "best pizza in the city" without talking about Caserta's? The only way they could fark this up worse is by mentioning Ronzio's shiat-tacular pizza.


As far as Caserta's is concerned, I have heard it is overrated.
Bakery pizza most likely has cheese on it. The bakery I worked in sprinkled the pizza with grated Parmesan cheese after it came of the oven and it  quickly melted into the sauce.
 
2013-02-26 09:17:49 PM

Tax Boy: Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.

They got something right -- Washington DC is not on the list


What? Pizzeria Paradiso, Annie's and HBox are all really good. The Chicago-style place on Capitol Hill is godawful, but there are some decent brick-oven places. The Matchbox chain is very solid. How the hell Memphis and Nashville are supposed to be better than that, I dunno.
 
2013-02-26 09:20:46 PM

Solid State Vittles: All you guys are all pizza snobs.  If you did a blind taste test with Pizza Hut and Domino's mixed in with what fancy pizzas you guys consider good, you won't be able to tell a difference.  Probably will rediscover your love for Pizza Hut.  FACT.


Mmmm, that's good trolllin'. I could do a blindfold SMELL test and pick out Pizza Hut and Domino's from real pizza (the secret is in the corn syrup).
 
2013-02-26 09:22:22 PM
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2013-02-26 09:22:43 PM

farkingismybusiness: Tax Boy: Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.

They got something right -- Washington DC is not on the list

Jumbo Slice got robbed.


www.washingtonpost.com

I guess it is if you've drunk ALL THE BEERS
 
2013-02-26 09:24:25 PM
As an Arizonan, I am deeply offended that Tombstone was left off the list.

//Shout out to my Phoenix faves La Piazza Al Forno & Pomo Pizzeria Napoletana. Also my Flagstaff favorite Nimarcos.
 
2013-02-26 09:24:59 PM

SmithHiller: FriarReb98: Shostie: 2. Providence, R.I.

As long as they're referring to Caserta's and not the godawful Rhode Island tradition of un-cheesed pizza....

FTFA:The Rhode Island capital held onto its silver medal position from last year, perhaps because, like Chicago, it offers an only-in-Providence pie: grilled pizza, where the dough is cooked on one side, then flipped before the toppings are added. A great place to try it is downtown's Bacaro, whose chef is from Al Forno, home of the original grilled pizza. To go a layer deeper into the city's pizza culture, sample the pizza strips-topped with just sauce-found at LaSalle Bakery.

Fark you NO.  That no-cheese pizza is the worst stuff on earth.  It's almost always cold, too.  And seriously, how can you talk about the "best pizza in the city" without talking about Caserta's? The only way they could fark this up worse is by mentioning Ronzio's shiat-tacular pizza.

As far as Caserta's is concerned, I have heard it is overrated.
Bakery pizza most likely has cheese on it. The bakery I worked in sprinkled the pizza with grated Parmesan cheese after it came of the oven and it  quickly melted into the sauce.


Casertas you have to try for yourself. Sure there are detractors, but when a pizza shop is absolutely packed with the phone ringing off the hook for decades, it says something.

As for the cheeseless--or plain as RI'ers call it--ther most certainly cheese in the sauce. It is a party pizza: something to munch on that doesn't get nasty when cold. If anything, it is best cold.

/grew up in Woonsocket
 
2013-02-26 09:29:46 PM

megarian: potterydove: List fails w/o Detroit.

Detroit is already on plenty of Top Ten lists....

Oh...OH you mean a positive-type list.

/in Detroit. Lots of snow. Just ordered pizza.


...I want Jet's really badly now.
 
2013-02-26 09:30:10 PM
always remember to order from sal's. always
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-26 09:35:10 PM

dj_bigbird: HOW IN THE WIDE, WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS IS SAN DIEGO EVEN ON A LIST FOR BEST PIZZA? THIS PLACE RANKS BEHIND BAGHDAD FOR PIZZA. THIS LIST FAILS.

FAILS!


Could not agree with you more. We have a lot of awesome stuff in San Diego, but Pizza is not one of them.
 
2013-02-26 09:38:58 PM

ThrnPhl: SmithHiller: FriarReb98: Shostie: 2. Providence, R.I.

As long as they're referring to Caserta's and not the godawful Rhode Island tradition of un-cheesed pizza....

FTFA:The Rhode Island capital held onto its silver medal position from last year, perhaps because, like Chicago, it offers an only-in-Providence pie: grilled pizza, where the dough is cooked on one side, then flipped before the toppings are added. A great place to try it is downtown's Bacaro, whose chef is from Al Forno, home of the original grilled pizza. To go a layer deeper into the city's pizza culture, sample the pizza strips-topped with just sauce-found at LaSalle Bakery.

Fark you NO.  That no-cheese pizza is the worst stuff on earth.  It's almost always cold, too.  And seriously, how can you talk about the "best pizza in the city" without talking about Caserta's? The only way they could fark this up worse is by mentioning Ronzio's shiat-tacular pizza.

As far as Caserta's is concerned, I have heard it is overrated.
Bakery pizza most likely has cheese on it. The bakery I worked in sprinkled the pizza with grated Parmesan cheese after it came of the oven and it  quickly melted into the sauce.

Casertas you have to try for yourself. Sure there are detractors, but when a pizza shop is absolutely packed with the phone ringing off the hook for decades, it says something.

As for the cheeseless--or plain as RI'ers call it--ther most certainly cheese in the sauce. It is a party pizza: something to munch on that doesn't get nasty when cold. If anything, it is best cold.

/grew up in Woonsocket


I'm married to a Woonsocket girl.  She threw me down the stairs my shoes one night.
 
2013-02-26 09:43:27 PM
My vote goes to Nyack, NY (Tarantella's). That is some good, good farking pizza. Pretty much all my wife ate while preggers with our first.
 
2013-02-26 09:49:11 PM
Any list that has Orlando, Florida in it but fails to list New Haven is utterly worthless. Orlando's idea of good pizza is Pizza Hut or maybe that Wolfgang Puck place at Downtown Disney. Also, Providence isn't much bigger than New Haven.
 
2013-02-26 09:51:28 PM
Anyone who pays more than $5 for a pizza is a chump!

www.littlecaesarsme.com
 
2013-02-26 09:54:48 PM
I have two beefs. 1) They missed one city.  The absolute best pizza I have eaten in 45 years on this Earth was at Mission Pizza in Fremont, Ca..  No other pizza place comes close. 2) Dont give me some moronic slide show.  That is so damn inefficient. I dont want to go through 22 pages to see what can be covered in a simple list on one page.

1. blah blah
2. blah blah
3. blah blah blah.
etc..
 
2013-02-26 10:02:20 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
Beaujo's in Denver rocks!
 
2013-02-26 10:07:21 PM

Tax Boy: farkingismybusiness: Tax Boy: Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.

They got something right -- Washington DC is not on the list

Jumbo Slice got robbed.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 606x424]

I guess it is if you've drunk ALL THE BEERS


No really. Jumbo Slice got robbed. Last night in Adam's Morgan. Police still looking for the suspect.

/not really
 
2013-02-26 10:10:33 PM
Chicago pizzas are not really pizzas, more like a soggy quiche

They are delicious

// Im a NY pizza fan, but both styles are available in many US cities, throw on some anchovies and blue cheese !!!
/ damn now Im hungry for pizza
 
2013-02-26 10:13:14 PM
I know we're all passionate about our pizza.

I've lived in Chicago for the past 10 years and I think it's a valid honor. I love deep dish, although I only get it 2-3 times a year.

Sometimes we'll slum it with Pizza Hut. But when we're up for a good pie, there's a fantastic 4-cheese pizza with bleu cheese at a local place that is fantastic. There's another that bakes square pies with fantastic ingredients a few blocks away. And we love the woodburning oven cooked pizza's at "Frasca" in Lakeview.

This weekend, I was on the South side and got to try some slices from "Aurelio's". Good pizza. Not the best, but unique and tasty.

I'm sure Manahattan has alot to offer as well. But when I've been there, it's getting a greasy couple slices at 2AM to try and ward off a hangover later. They were fantastic for what I needed them for at the time. But I haven't had a chance to explore the artisian places.
 
2013-02-26 10:17:09 PM
Mmmm...Pi Pizza Truck

www.pipizzatruck.com
 
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