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(Travel + Leisure)   Travel + Leisure magazine ranks the 20 best US cities for pizza. Naturally, Chicago is #1   (travelandleisure.com) divider line 253
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2013-02-26 07:34:33 PM  
Youngstown pizza, representing.
 
2013-02-26 07:35:01 PM  

dj_bigbird: HOW IN THE WIDE, WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS IS SAN DIEGO EVEN ON A LIST FOR BEST PIZZA? THIS PLACE RANKS BEHIND BAGHDAD FOR PIZZA. THIS LIST FAILS.

FAILS!


The fact that it didn't start with New Haven should have been a giveaway.
 
2013-02-26 07:35:11 PM  
you can get pizza anywhere anytime but only in Newark NJ can you get yourself a Philadelphia Deep Dish Finger Pie for $50.00 that will make your crotch vibrate for a week.
 
2013-02-26 07:35:11 PM  

ChubbyTiger: jcb274: Deadfeznt: New Haven must not be a city anymore

As someone sitting in New Haven right now, I can say: their pizza sucks.  New York style, but burned-ier?  No thanks.

Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.


Yeah, I know.

Love it or hate it, what's with the burning thing?  Isn't burnt food usually bad?
 
2013-02-26 07:35:27 PM  

Surool: That's odd... they don't even serve pizza in Chicago.


Sure they do . They cut it into squares though . Crispy crust, not too much sauce,not too much cheese .
 
2013-02-26 07:35:57 PM  

Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.


isn't Detroit where all the big names come from?  Domino's, Jet's, etc..??
 
2013-02-26 07:36:24 PM  

Elzar: Jesus H Christ - the best pizza is from Naples - do you dumbfarks know nothing about fine neapolitan style pizza? Mozzarella from grassfed water buffalo and only the finest San Marzano tomatoes from the plains south of Vesuvious...

[img715.imageshack.us image 320x213]


I seem to recall hearing about a shortage of oak (which is required for authentic Neapolitan-style pizza) somewhere was causing people to dig up coffins for the wood. Could have just been an urban legend, though.
 
2013-02-26 07:37:35 PM  

lennavan: 401kman: lennavan: 401kman: Where the frick is New Haven?

I hear there's a pretty decent University located in New Haven.

Go Chargers.

Yeah whatever, go chargers.  Sorry but you guys in San Diego may have great weather.  But dreary New York puts on the pounds eating awesome pizza.

The University in New Haven is called Yale.  The "Go Chargers" thing was a joke because there's also the Universi...

just forget it.


Ok I missed your sports team jokes.  Yes I know Yale is in New Haven.

After reading the introduction to this Chicago ad called a list.  It's pretty obvious that the criteria is so farked up that these trolls sniff glue.  Brisket pizza...you have to be kidding me.  And Chicago wins because you can't find their casserole outside of Chicago....
 
2013-02-26 07:39:57 PM  

jcb274: ChubbyTiger: jcb274: Deadfeznt: New Haven must not be a city anymore

As someone sitting in New Haven right now, I can say: their pizza sucks.  New York style, but burned-ier?  No thanks.

Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.

Yeah, I know.

Love it or hate it, what's with the burning thing?  Isn't burnt food usually bad?


Have you ever heard of burnt ends?
 
2013-02-26 07:40:07 PM  

Elzar: Jesus H Christ - the best pizza is from Naples - do you dumbfarks know nothing about fine neapolitan style pizza? Mozzarella from grassfed water buffalo and only the finest San Marzano tomatoes from the plains south of Vesuvious...


I have had the pizza at the original Sorbillo Pizzeria in the heart of Spaccanapoli. Widely regarded by the locals as the best of the best. It was...about as good as you would imagine it to be.

/travel
//it's what I live for
 
2013-02-26 07:40:19 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: neongoats: The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.

I make pizza from scratch every week or two. Dough is easy if you have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a dough hook (or a food processor). 90 minutes to rise while making a double batch of sauce (freeze half for the next pizza).

The worst part of homemade pizza is being ruined for other pizza.


You can also make extra dough and freeze it.  I save the plastic tubs you get from buying sliced sandwich meats and use those to freeze individual sized dough balls.  My dough recipe is enough for 4 standard baking pan sized (thin crust) pizzas.  On a weeknight all I have to do is chop onions and brown the sausage.  Including 8 minutes to bake (at 500F) it's 15 minutes, tops.
 
2013-02-26 07:41:00 PM  

Osomatic: A pretty darn good place recently opened here in LA


What's it called? I'm game to try it.
 
2013-02-26 07:41:38 PM  

neongoats: lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.

Or, you know, time constraints. At least 80% of pizza's ubiquity is tied to the fact that you can get a whole meal delivered to you in 20 minutes or less, generally for less $ per portion than just about anything else but ramen.

The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.



It's like anything else.  Like rolling your own sushi or cooking Thai.  It takes some doing, but if you have the time and practice, it pays off.

I did it a few times.  You have to make dough for three or four pies for it to be worth the time.
 
2013-02-26 07:42:09 PM  

Deadfeznt: New Haven must not be a city anymore


I know. I'm calling bullshiat. A mashed potatoe and bacon pizza from bar is better then any pizza I have had in New York, Boston, or Chicago

\ good house beer as well
\\Pepe's is greasy crap
\\\ Baki's in Prospect beats them all with a large pizza paddle
 
2013-02-26 07:42:20 PM  

neongoats: lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.

Or, you know, time constraints. At least 80% of pizza's ubiquity is tied to the fact that you can get a whole meal delivered to you in 20 minutes or less, generally for less $ per portion than just about anything else but ramen.

The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.


It's not that difficult. I also make all of our sauces.

Start out simple, with frozen bread dough and work up from there. If you have kids they will love it.
 
2013-02-26 07:43:19 PM  

Krieghund: Osomatic: A pretty darn good place recently opened here in LA

What's it called? I'm game to try it.


it's called Nunya's Pizza
for Nunya business
 
2013-02-26 07:43:39 PM  

401kman: Ok I missed your sports team jokes.


It's not my sports team, I googled it in an attempt to make a joke.

401kman: After reading the introduction to this Chicago ad called a list. It's pretty obvious that the criteria is so farked up that these trolls sniff glue. Brisket pizza...you have to be kidding me. And Chicago wins because you can't find their casserole outside of Chicago....


I wouldn't take the opinion of a single woman who it seems if you click her name, makes lists for a living so seriously.  Below is just a snippet.  You think she's really that cultured so as to have a relevant opinion on all of these things?

America's Best Music Cities August 2010 America's Best Little Beach To... August 2010 America's Best Coffee Cities March 2011 America's Best Cities for Pizz... March 2011 America's Best Cities for Peop... April 2011 Europe's Best Hotels April 2011 America's Best Cities for Summ... June 2011 America's Best Beer Cities July 2011 America's Best Cities for Sing... March 2010 Strangest Jobs in the Travel I... June 2011 America's Best Cities for Nigh... September 2011 America's Best Cities for Fall... September 2011 America's Best Cities for Food... September 2011 America's Most and Least Attra... November 2010 America's Worst Drivers October 2011 Best and Worst Airports for De... October 2010 America's Most Sports-Crazed C... November 2011 America's Strangest People December 2011 America's Best Cities for Wint...
 
2013-02-26 07:43:46 PM  
westpointsteakhouse.com

The official pizza of the State of Indiana

Doesn't matter if your town has 2 residents or 200,000, it will have a Pizza King
 
2013-02-26 07:44:25 PM  

badaboom: Pizza

[movingonstartingover.files.wordpress.com image 548x401]

Chicago Casserole

[static.ddmcdn.com image 400x377]


If that is your "example" of Chicago deep dish pizza, then, I don't have any issue with not respecting anything you say.
 
2013-02-26 07:44:49 PM  

fusillade762: Elzar: Jesus H Christ - the best pizza is from Naples - do you dumbfarks know nothing about fine neapolitan style pizza? Mozzarella from grassfed water buffalo and only the finest San Marzano tomatoes from the plains south of Vesuvious...

[img715.imageshack.us image 320x213]

I seem to recall hearing about a shortage of oak (which is required for authentic Neapolitan-style pizza) somewhere was causing people to dig up coffins for the wood. Could have just been an urban legend, though.


Oh goddammit, 8/10
Subtle.
 
2013-02-26 07:45:05 PM  
I think a lot of folks have ordered a Domino's Deep Dish pizza & think they actually had a deep dish.........   Nope................
 
2013-02-26 07:45:20 PM  

GardenWeasel: [westpointsteakhouse.com image 441x676]

The official pizza of the State of Indiana

Doesn't matter if your town has 2 residents or 200,000, it will have a Pizza King


True dat.   Although, I don't generally like to have to dine out for a Totino's pizza.

/best in Fort Wayne is SW side Oley's.
 
2013-02-26 07:45:35 PM  

jcb274: ChubbyTiger: jcb274: Deadfeznt: New Haven must not be a city anymore

As someone sitting in New Haven right now, I can say: their pizza sucks.  New York style, but burned-ier?  No thanks.

Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.

Yeah, I know.

Love it or hate it, what's with the burning thing?  Isn't burnt food usually bad?


In most cases. Here, no. I feel the need for a dose of Modern Apizza. So yummy.
 
2013-02-26 07:46:19 PM  

skybiker: I think a lot of folks have ordered a Domino's Deep Dish pizza & think they actually had a deep dish.........   Nope................


haacked.com
 
2013-02-26 07:46:49 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Start out simple, with frozen bread dough and work up from there. If you have kids they will love it.


Especially if the first time you do it, you let them make their own hot dog pizza.

ZzeusS: Like rolling your own sushi


Kids love this too.  Especially if you let them make their own hot dog sushi.

/Suddenly I feel like one of those parents with morbidly obese kids on Maury.
//Let's see YOU get a kid to like sushi.
 
2013-02-26 07:47:09 PM  
All you guys are all pizza snobs.  If you did a blind taste test with Pizza Hut and Domino's mixed in with what fancy pizzas you guys consider good, you won't be able to tell a difference.  Probably will rediscover your love for Pizza Hut.  FACT.
 
2013-02-26 07:47:26 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: skybiker: I think a lot of folks have ordered a Domino's Deep Dish pizza & think they actually had a deep dish.........   Nope................

[haacked.com image 500x287]


I need this album. I had no idea such a thing existed.
 
2013-02-26 07:48:11 PM  

Solid State Vittles: All you guys are all pizza snobs.  If you did a blind taste test with Pizza Hut and Domino's mixed in with what fancy pizzas you guys consider good, you won't be able to tell a difference.  Probably will rediscover your love for Pizza Hut.  FACT.


I declare thee King of the Trolls.

/or else you are like my mom and lost your sense of taste
 
2013-02-26 07:49:12 PM  
www.lifestylelebanon.com

Haters gonna hate.  They don't have Pizza Huts in every town because it sucks.
 
2013-02-26 07:49:15 PM  

earthworm2.0: exick: I only clicked to make sure St. Louis isn't within 500 miles of that list.

And yet somehow Kansas City MO is on there... Go figure...


His reference to St. Louis is due to the presence of St. Louis-style pizza, which features a cracker-like crust, Provel cheese (a processed blend of cheddar, Swiss, provolone, and liquid smoke), and a very salty, oregano-y sauce.

Provel cheese is pretty ubiquitous in family-friendly (read: older and not fancy) restaurants. I've heard it described as "St. Louis' Vegemite" because it's beloved by locals and reviled by outsiders.

I actually didn't know it was just a St. Louis thing until college. I also assumed that it was just a shortened form of the word provolone. Yeah, I was really culinarily sheltered in my youth.

All that being said, there are a decent number of non-St. Louis style pizza joints. And being anti-Provel in St. Louis is kinda a hipster thing to do.
 
2013-02-26 07:50:11 PM  
There was a place in Kansas City called Pyramid Pizza.  They had some type of honey wheat dough which was pretty good.  And of course lots of Boulevard Wheat beer.  Man I miss both of those things.
 
2013-02-26 07:50:20 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pizza is like sex

/even when it's bad it's pretty good


This, plus they are listing cities?

Great, name 20 big cities, all of which will contain some good pizza.  what a joke.

Finally: Buddy's.

ski9600: There is a theory that the first pizza you taste will be the one you love for your lifetime.


What idiot made up that theory? The first pizza 99% of people eat is some delivery crap like dominoes, and nobody's favorite is dominoes.
 
2013-02-26 07:50:44 PM  
Relatively Obscure: In before casserole derp.

Osomatic: You'd think people would catch on that it's not a clever thing to say after the 500th time they see it, but apparently not.


It's full of cheese, so it's more like a quiche.
 
2013-02-26 07:52:21 PM  

lennavan: neongoats: lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.

Or, you know, time constraints. At least 80% of pizza's ubiquity is tied to the fact that you can get a whole meal delivered to you in 20 minutes or less, generally for less $ per portion than just about anything else but ramen.

The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.

Like I said, the only reason not to is you don't know how.  It is amazingly clear you have no idea how to make pizza from scratch.  You think it's more expensive than delivery and you think it takes longer than 20 minutes or less.  You have no idea how to make pizza from scratch.

I'd be more than happy to give you advice and explain how to make it, if you're actually interested.  I'm sure FloydA also would as would a great number of other people.  But I'm guessing you're not actually interested, you just wanted to spout off some nonsense.


I never said homemade was more expensive, I was just generally describing pizza there. I worked at a family run pizza joint in a small town once upon a time. So did my older brother, and the old Italian gramma I mentioned was my neighbor :p

But I still think its too much fuss for casual pizza consumption on a work night.
 
2013-02-26 07:54:25 PM  

Tax Boy: Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.

They got something right -- Washington DC is not on the list


Jumbo Slice got robbed.
 
2013-02-26 07:54:28 PM  

starlost: if it burns the roof of your mouth is it?
a] good
b] bad
c] because you are a stoner


D Hot.
 
2013-02-26 07:54:33 PM  

Solid State Vittles: This list doesn't make sense.  ALL of those cities have at least one Pizza Hut so it should be like a 20 place tie for first.


In German Demolition Man, Pizza Hut won (wins?) the franchise wars.
 
2013-02-26 07:56:07 PM  
Cincinnati LaRosa's can be a hit or miss..

Not a fan at all of "pizza" that is more like a shollow bowl with 4 cups of sauce and all the crap one can shove in it.
Diarrhea-dish pizza...
 
2013-02-26 07:56:41 PM  
ski9600:
http://www.mypiepizza.com/

I used to work for them.
 
2013-02-26 07:58:05 PM  

GardenWeasel: [westpointsteakhouse.com image 441x676]

The official pizza of the State of Indiana

Doesn't matter if your town has 2 residents or 200,000, it will have a Pizza King


My town doesn't, but the place I moved from did.  It seemed like buying very expensive frozen pizza.
 
2013-02-26 07:59:12 PM  

Solid State Vittles: [www.lifestylelebanon.com image 400x400]

Haters gonna hate.  They don't have Pizza Huts in every town because it sucks.


It depends on the sauce cycle they are on. They switch that shiat up every few years for no readily apparent reason.

Sometimes it's the cloyingly sweet Papa Johns flavored sauce. Approximately catsup flavored with the occasional small lump, presumably tomato, certainly not an herb or spice. Fat 400lb farks love this shiat, they can still taste it in between huge gulps from their mt dew.

Sometimes it is the more tangy, spicy classic Pizza Hut flavored sauce, heartburn making and pretty great, and not sweet at all. Right now, in my town, they are on the spicy cycle and it's great.
 
2013-02-26 08:00:19 PM  

Relatively Obscure: GardenWeasel: [westpointsteakhouse.com image 441x676]

The official pizza of the State of Indiana

Doesn't matter if your town has 2 residents or 200,000, it will have a Pizza King

My town doesn't, but the place I moved from did.  It seemed like buying very expensive frozen pizza.


For the record, I'm not saying PK is great pizza, just ubiquitous.
 
2013-02-26 08:01:51 PM  
www.yummies4tummies.com
 
2013-02-26 08:02:11 PM  
s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com
Last time I was in Chi-Town we were strolling around Lincoln Park and popped across the street to this place; Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder.  I'm not gonna say it was the best pizza I've ever had but it was definitely the most unique, and pretty damn good.  It's basically a bread bowl which is completely filled with piles of cheese, sauce and toppings.  Definitely worth a try, yum.
 
2013-02-26 08:02:43 PM  

Osomatic: Relatively Obscure: In before casserole derp.

You'd think people would catch on that it's not a clever thing to say after the 500th time they see it, but apparently not.


Seriously. I know that some people can't conceive of pizza better than the garbage turned out adjacent to the hole where they grew up, but if you try a legit Chicago deep dish and still don't understand why it's the best, the fault is with you, not the pizza.

That said, it is definitely possible to get your paws on a really bad Chicago deep dish.
 
2013-02-26 08:02:50 PM  

Metal: [www.yummies4tummies.com image 600x327]


Or as it is better known, the "Colon Shredder"
 
2013-02-26 08:04:34 PM  

lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.


Truth.  The other reason is time, you really have to let the dough sit overnight for a really good crust.  I have a great secret to homemade pizza:  don't use a pizza stone, cook it on a broiler tray, one of the wavy ones with holes for grease.  It makes the crust wavy and the air passes through and crisps it perfectly.
 
2013-02-26 08:05:17 PM  

I Love Happy Stuff: Tax Boy: Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.

They got something right -- Washington DC is not on the list

I second that. DC fails at food, especially pizzza.



OK, pizza....... yeah, I'll agree not so much for the pizza. But we've got great restaurants out the yinyang in DC and also the surrounding suburbs. Washington DC is great for dining in general.
 
2013-02-26 08:07:30 PM  

dletter: Chicago Deep Dish/Stuffed pizza is not traditional "pizza"... it is what it is, yes, maybe even a cassarole.  But, if you are in the mood for it, and go to a place that makes a tasty pizza (Giordanos for instance), then it is good.   There was a place up when I lived in Highwood, I think it might have been in Highland Park, that was an awesome deep dish, sauce was excellent... this was like 15 years ago though, so, don't recall the name or if they'd even still be there.

But, beyond that anyway, Chicago Thin-crust demolishes NY style thin crust.

On a third note, hopefully GreggM shows up to this thread, since I tried making his recipe for a chicago style thin crust pizza, which while the pizza "construction" wasn't bad, but, the sauce recipe I tried didn't pan out well, so, want to get his advice on that.


Pizza sauce, like anything else, is very subjective taste wise. That being said, it's not uncommon around the Chicago area for thin crust sauce to have a touch of sweetness and go light on the herbs. Most important is to start with high quality tomatoes (6in1 brand is my favorite) and not to get carried away with a lot of added ingredients. Typically, for a 28 oz can of tomatoes, I'll add one teaspoon each of dried basil, dried oregano and white sugar (which also cuts down on the acidity of the tomatoes), 1/2 teaspoon of salt and 1/8 teaspoon of garlic powder. Mix all of these ingredients together in a glass jar and refrigerate for a day or two before using to allow the flavors to blend. This is a good starting point and one that will agree with most anyone. Occasionally, I'll add maybe a 1/2 teaspoon paprika or onion powder and a pinch of black pepper for a bit of added zing. The leftover sauce freezes well also. I like my pizza kind of on the "wet" side, so I use 4 oz of sauce for a 10-inch diameter pie and 8 oz for one that measures 14 inches. Remember, it's all about satisfying your taste buds and not those of the self-appointed of arbiters of authenticity. Tailor it to what you like.
 
2013-02-26 08:07:38 PM  
Truth.  The other reason is time, you really have to let the dough sit overnight for a really good crust.  I have a great secret to homemade pizza:  don't use a pizza stone, cook it on a broiler tray, one of the wavy ones with holes for grease.  It makes the crust wavy and the air passes through and crisps it perfectly.

This Puppy
 
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