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(Travel + Leisure)   Travel + Leisure magazine ranks the 20 best US cities for pizza. Naturally, Chicago is #1   (travelandleisure.com) divider line 253
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2013-02-26 07:11:26 PM
There is a theory that the first pizza you taste will be the one you love for your lifetime.  For me, it was a deep dish, sausage from My Pi in western Minneapolis.  Well, that's not really true.  My first pizza experience was probably Totino's.  Before they sold out to Pillsbury.  I remember the old location, the kind of thin pizza (1/4" or so), the salad, you can't choose the dressing,  it's Italian,  the big room with 20' ceilings or higher, and after the meal, my dad would order desert.  I had vanilla ice cream with coffee on the side.  My first coffee experience.

http://www.mypiepizza.com/
 
2013-02-26 07:12:34 PM
That's odd... they don't even serve pizza in Chicago.
 
2013-02-26 07:13:05 PM

Dafatone: See... "cities" is a silly way to think about this.

Most any suburb in the NY/NJ area is going to have better pizza than pretty much the rest of the country.


While I admit that I've never been to New York to eat pizza, I can't understand this mentality.  But then again, I'm willing to bet you haven't been to pretty much the rest of the country either.
 
2013-02-26 07:13:41 PM
http://www.laketahoepizzaco.com/  One of Tahoe's Best

http://www.zacharys.com/  One of the Bay's best
 
2013-02-26 07:13:58 PM

Derwood: If you hate Chicago deep dish pizza you are a terrible person and should feel bad about yourself


I love deep dish pizza but Lou Malnati's pizzas are frickin terrible, give Chicago pizza a bad name and the Malnati's should feel bad about themselves for tainting the Chicago Deep Dish Pizza identity.
 
2013-02-26 07:14:18 PM
I was in Chicago last spring and I tried pizzas at Burt's Place (a sausage & pepperoni and a spinach & mushroom) and Lou Malnati's (a Malnati Chicago Classic). They were all delicious, but that Buttercrust is almost orgasmic!. I really don't give a flying fark if you call it pizza or you call it casserole... all I know is that I wish I could get to Chicago about 3 or 4 times a year just to eat at one or both of those places.

I know  Lou Malnati's Tastes of Chicago will deliver nationwide, but I live in New Brunswick, Canada, so... :(
 
2013-02-26 07:14:38 PM

Surool: That's odd... they don't even serve pizza in Chicago.


7/10
 
2013-02-26 07:14:40 PM
Your pizza sucks. Mine does not. Now that we got that out of the way.  I like NY style over Chicago. But I like Chicago too when I can get some original shiat. There, clear as tomato sauce, isn't it?
 
2013-02-26 07:15:20 PM

robodog: The list is a fail without Cleveland. Parma, an inner ring suburb, has the most pizzerias per square mile of any city on earth. Cleveland's contributed more members to the American international pizza competition team than most of the cities on that list.


Yeah, Cleveland is full of guidos. But the best pizza in east Cleveland is a ways out of town, in Chesterland at the corner of 322 and Aurora. My dead uncle and I used to take a half hour ride out just for their sausage and provolone pizza.
 
2013-02-26 07:15:23 PM

exick: I only clicked to make sure St. Louis isn't within 500 miles of that list.


And yet somehow Kansas City MO is on there... Go figure...
 
2013-02-26 07:15:28 PM
Where the frick is New Haven?  Yeah San Diego has better pizza than New Haven.  Give me a farking break.  I was in San Diego recently and literally scoured the godammed town block by block ready to kill for decent pizza.  I found one sort of ok pizza, and it was not even in the same ball park as a New Haven joint!!!

Grow up this list is retarded.
 
2013-02-26 07:15:54 PM

Deadfeznt: New Haven must not be a city anymore


This.
 
2013-02-26 07:16:30 PM
The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.  If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.
 
2013-02-26 07:16:43 PM

401kman: Where the frick is New Haven?


I hear there's a pretty decent University located in New Haven.

Go Chargers.
 
2013-02-26 07:16:58 PM

Elzar: Jesus H Christ - the best pizza is from Naples - do you dumbfarks know nothing about fine neapolitan style pizza? Mozzarella from grassfed water buffalo and only the finest San Marzano tomatoes from the plains south of Vesuvious...

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That looks slightly less appetizing than Domino's.  Where's the rest of the cheese? And they burned the crust.
 
2013-02-26 07:17:18 PM
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No better pizza anywhere on Earth
 
2013-02-26 07:17:28 PM

nacker: Dafatone: See... "cities" is a silly way to think about this.

Most any suburb in the NY/NJ area is going to have better pizza than pretty much the rest of the country.

While I admit that I've never been to New York to eat pizza, I can't understand this mentality.  But then again, I'm willing to bet you haven't been to pretty much the rest of the country either.


I haven't been everywhere (duh) but I've lived in a bunch of places around the country, including four other major cities.  New York wins, easily.  But it's the prevalence of pizza that's most important, rather than the quality.  Almost anywhere is going to have one or two great pizza places.  Practically drowning in them is nice.

/ALMOST everywhere.  I currently live in South Dakota.
//which, I hope, counts as outside the NY/NJ area.
 
2013-02-26 07:17:31 PM
I've eaten a lot of pizza in a lot of places during my 44 years on this rock. In my expert opinion, the best around is......

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2013-02-26 07:17:41 PM

Osomatic: MichiganFTL: I think we can all agree Florida's is horrible, but Chicago's being the best? Hardly.

I guess I can actually see their point, though - you can get good New York style pizza almost anywhere these days (including Chicago), but good Chicago style barely exists outside Illinois.

Which is not to say that it doesn't exist at all.  A pretty darn good place recently opened here in LA, and it's a great addition to my personal repertoire of take-out food I'm happy to eat.  But for the most part, good deep dish is tough to find anywhere but Chicago.


This. Article doesn't say Chicago's pizza is best, it says Chicago is the best place for pizza because it has more of a variety - you can't get Chicago-style "pizza" anywhere else. Mind you, that's because most other places don't really care for it, so "Yay! It's an additional option no one else wants!"

Saying one place wins because it has more options when the other places obviously don't want the extra options is a weird thing.
 
2013-02-26 07:17:45 PM
Now you've done it, OP! NOW YOU'VE DONE IT!
 
2013-02-26 07:18:49 PM

Tax Boy: Shostie: 1. Chicago
2. Providence, R.I.
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Boston
6. Minneapolis/St. Paul
7. San Diego
8. Savannah, Ga.
9. Nashville, Tenn.
10. Kansas City, Mo.
11. San Francisco
12. Portland, Maine
13. San Antonio
14. Portland, Ore.
15. Austin, Texas
16. Houston
17. Memphis, Tenn.
18. Los Angeles
19. Baltimore
20. Orlando, Fla.

They got something right -- Washington DC is not on the list


I second that. DC fails at food, especially pizzza.
 
2013-02-26 07:19:16 PM

exick: I only clicked to make sure St. Louis isn't within 500 miles of that list.


St. Louis style's not bad. Unless you consider the unholy abomination that is Imo's to be "pizza," in which there's no hope for you.
 
2013-02-26 07:21:10 PM

dj_bigbird: HOW IN THE WIDE, WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS IS SAN DIEGO EVEN ON A LIST FOR BEST PIZZA? THIS PLACE RANKS BEHIND BAGHDAD FOR PIZZA. THIS LIST FAILS.

FAILS!


Pizza Bella paid off another reviewer?

/I kid.  Actually, some of their stuff is really memorable. Some not so much.
 
2013-02-26 07:21:15 PM

FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.


I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.
 
2013-02-26 07:21:21 PM

dj_bigbird: HOW IN THE WIDE, WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS IS SAN DIEGO EVEN ON A LIST FOR BEST PIZZA? THIS PLACE RANKS BEHIND BAGHDAD FOR PIZZA. THIS LIST FAILS.

FAILS!


Yup amen brother!
 
2013-02-26 07:25:05 PM

Dafatone: I haven't been everywhere (duh) but I've lived in a bunch of places around the country, including four other major cities.  New York wins, easily.  But it's the prevalence of pizza that's most important, rather than the quality.  Almost anywhere is going to have one or two great pizza places.  Practically drowning in them is nice.

/ALMOST everywhere.  I currently live in South Dakota.
//which, I hope, counts as outside the NY/NJ area.


You bring up a really good point:  if anyplace can have at least one or two great pizza places, then why did they even bother with this silly list?  They would be better off with posting rankings of pizza places in major cities across the country.  Wouldn't that be more useful?  Can you imagine the implication that people are actually traveling just to eat pizza?
 
2013-02-26 07:25:32 PM
I assume the other 19 are suburbs of Chicago like Cicero, Berwyn and the like.
 
2013-02-26 07:25:37 PM
Chicago pizza is meh.  NY pizza is meh.  Best pizza places I've found were in U.S. cities that didn't brag about their pizza.

Come to think of it, that goes for a lot of things besides pizza.  The more a person or place brags about something, the more likely it's all talk.
 
2013-02-26 07:26:10 PM
Gino's East FTW

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2013-02-26 07:26:23 PM
It needs repeating.Adrienne's Pizza Bar !!!!!????????????????? Are you farking kidding me!?Did they even visit New York?
 
2013-02-26 07:26:25 PM
needs more anchovies, feta, and spinach
 
2013-02-26 07:26:37 PM

dj_bigbird: HOW IN THE WIDE, WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS IS SAN DIEGO EVEN ON A LIST FOR BEST PIZZA? THIS PLACE RANKS BEHIND BAGHDAD FOR PIZZA. THIS LIST FAILS.

FAILS!


At least they named Bronx Pizza. Also if you ever end up in San Marcos go to Sorrento's, you will thank me later.
 
2013-02-26 07:26:40 PM

lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.


Or, you know, time constraints. At least 80% of pizza's ubiquity is tied to the fact that you can get a whole meal delivered to you in 20 minutes or less, generally for less $ per portion than just about anything else but ramen.

The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.
 
2013-02-26 07:27:00 PM

nacker: Dafatone: I haven't been everywhere (duh) but I've lived in a bunch of places around the country, including four other major cities.  New York wins, easily.  But it's the prevalence of pizza that's most important, rather than the quality.  Almost anywhere is going to have one or two great pizza places.  Practically drowning in them is nice.

/ALMOST everywhere.  I currently live in South Dakota.
//which, I hope, counts as outside the NY/NJ area.

You bring up a really good point:  if anyplace can have at least one or two great pizza places, then why did they even bother with this silly list?  They would be better off with posting rankings of pizza places in major cities across the country.  Wouldn't that be more useful?  Can you imagine the implication that people are actually traveling just to eat pizza?


When Southwest was running $99 roundtrip specials I once flew to Chicago just for Deepdish and an evening of live Jazz, spent the night at my cousins and flew back the next morning.
 
2013-02-26 07:28:17 PM

lennavan: 401kman: Where the frick is New Haven?

I hear there's a pretty decent University located in New Haven.

Go Chargers.


Yeah whatever, go chargers.  Sorry but you guys in San Diego may have great weather.  But dreary New York puts on the pounds eating awesome pizza.
 
2013-02-26 07:28:26 PM
14. Portland, Ore. ? That blows the author's rep right there. Haven't had a good pizza since I moved here. Lots of okay pizza, lots of whacked-out pizza with toppings that belong on a compost heap, but good enough for 14th? No.
 
2013-02-26 07:28:51 PM

401kman: It needs repeating.Adrienne's Pizza Bar !!!!!????????????????? Are you farking kidding me!?Did they even visit New York?


I don't mind Adrienne's, but .. yeah, I see what you mean.
 
2013-02-26 07:29:22 PM

jcb274: Deadfeznt: New Haven must not be a city anymore

As someone sitting in New Haven right now, I can say: their pizza sucks.  New York style, but burned-ier?  No thanks.


Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
 
2013-02-26 07:29:26 PM
FTA: [Memphis] "Fun-loving Memphis-which scored well for street performersbums and creeps and music- takes a soulful approach to its pizza. At Hog & Hominy, you can get a Red Eye, topped with pork belly and egg, while Aldo's Pizza Pies on Main Street (a popular hangout for Grizzlies fans) does a pulled-pork and coleslaw pizza.  "

Oh now come on. Novelty pizza is enough to get you on the list? Granted, I assume they run these same lists year in and year out and flop the places of everything after 4th place, but this is sad.
 
2013-02-26 07:29:29 PM

robodog: When Southwest was running $99 roundtrip specials I once flew to Chicago just for Deepdish and an evening of live Jazz, spent the night at my cousins and flew back the next morning.


Uh huh... you went there for the pizza.  We get it.
 
2013-02-26 07:30:56 PM

neongoats: lennavan: FloydA: The best pizza in the world is made in my kitchen.  Everyplace else is inferior by several orders of magnitude.   If you disagree, it's either because you make your own pizza (in which case, we can call it a tie and commence trade negotiations) or because you are wrong and stupid and evil, because homemade is the best, so shut up and furthermore.

I made a margherita pizza with Big Boy tomatoes I grew in my backyard.  At least 100x better than store bought.

It's true what you say though, ever since I started making my own pizzas from scratch at home, I stopped buying anywhere else.  I can make a really farking good pizza for like $3, way better than frozen and at least as good as store bought.  The only reason not to is you don't know how, which if true, go google it.

Or, you know, time constraints. At least 80% of pizza's ubiquity is tied to the fact that you can get a whole meal delivered to you in 20 minutes or less, generally for less $ per portion than just about anything else but ramen.

The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.


Like I said, the only reason not to is you don't know how.  It is amazingly clear you have no idea how to make pizza from scratch.  You think it's more expensive than delivery and you think it takes longer than 20 minutes or less.  You have no idea how to make pizza from scratch.

I'd be more than happy to give you advice and explain how to make it, if you're actually interested.  I'm sure FloydA also would as would a great number of other people.  But I'm guessing you're not actually interested, you just wanted to spout off some nonsense.
 
2013-02-26 07:31:02 PM

Elzar: Jesus H Christ - the best pizza is from Naples - do you dumbfarks know nothing about fine neapolitan style pizza? Mozzarella from grassfed water buffalo and only the finest San Marzano tomatoes from the plains south of Vesuvious...

[img715.imageshack.us image 320x213]


Agreed !
 
2013-02-26 07:31:37 PM
I'm surprised Seattle isn't mentioned.

Costco now makes a take and bake Chicago style. It's delicious.

Maybe it's a Japan only thing.
 
2013-02-26 07:31:50 PM

401kman: lennavan: 401kman: Where the frick is New Haven?

I hear there's a pretty decent University located in New Haven.

Go Chargers.

Yeah whatever, go chargers.  Sorry but you guys in San Diego may have great weather.  But dreary New York puts on the pounds eating awesome pizza.


The University in New Haven is called Yale.  The "Go Chargers" thing was a joke because there's also the Universi...

just forget it.
 
2013-02-26 07:32:07 PM

lennavan: Derwood: If you hate Chicago deep dish pizza you are a terrible person and should feel bad about yourself

I love deep dish pizza but Lou Malnati's pizzas are frickin terrible, give Chicago pizza a bad name and the Malnati's should feel bad about themselves for tainting the Chicago Deep Dish Pizza identity.


Lou's was never one of my "favs" (Giordanos, that place I can't remember, a few others) beat it out, but, overall it was still ok.... except for the Sausage pizza.... I generally LIKE sweet italian sausage on a pizza, but, Lou instead made it this huge "patty" that covered the entire pizza, and it ended up always being "watery" (maybe it was grease, but, it wasn't even decent tasting grease) on top of the sausage.  Never liked that.
 
2013-02-26 07:32:18 PM

RectalFury: 401kman: It needs repeating.Adrienne's Pizza Bar !!!!!????????????????? Are you farking kidding me!?Did they even visit New York?

I don't mind Adrienne's, but .. yeah, I see what you mean.


Yeah I don't mind it either.  But its not even in the same league as
Pauli Gee's
De Fara's
Totonno's
Patsy's in Harlem
(insert another italian name)'s
Johnny's in Mt Vernon
Best Pizza
Lucali's
Mottorino's
Artichoke Pizza

The list goes on and on that they missed.
 
2013-02-26 07:32:33 PM

neongoats: The only ppl I know that make their own homemade pizza are stay at home dads and old Italian grandmas. Literally no other human has the time to roll some dough from scratch.


I make pizza from scratch every week or two. Dough is easy if you have a Kitchen Aid mixer with a dough hook (or a food processor). 90 minutes to rise while making a double batch of sauce (freeze half for the next pizza).

The worst part of homemade pizza is being ruined for other pizza.
 
2013-02-26 07:33:24 PM
Pizza

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Chicago Casserole

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2013-02-26 07:34:05 PM
All the good places locally have NY style pizza, so I absolutely crave deep dish Chicago style whenever I'm somewhere that has it.
 
2013-02-26 07:34:14 PM
This list doesn't make sense.  ALL of those cities have at least one Pizza Hut so it should be like a 20 place tie for first.
 
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