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(BBC)   BP oil spill trial told it 'put profits over safety,' adding, 'also, water is wet, and burning oil really hurts'   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 36
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2013-02-26 01:22:24 PM
And the sun sets in the west.
 
2013-02-26 01:23:12 PM
It's the prosecutors statement, what do you expect?

Plus, does Subby speak English?
 
2013-02-26 01:23:40 PM
Obviously this means we need less industrial regulations.
 
2013-02-26 01:24:42 PM
'Remember Charlie'

/Safety is no accident
 
2013-02-26 01:25:46 PM
BP agreed to pay $4.5bn (£2.9bn) last year to settle criminal charges relating to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

It seems obscene somehow that everyone agrees that a massive criminal act was committed, but no one is going to jail.
Sure, sure - fining them a few weeks income will discourage this kind of thing in the future, not as much as a CEO who's worried that if it happens again he'll end up sharing bunk space with Bubba the redneck methhead rapist with HIV and poor impulse control.
 
2013-02-26 01:27:39 PM
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2013-02-26 01:30:02 PM

Karac: BP agreed to pay $4.5bn (£2.9bn) last year to settle criminal charges relating to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

It seems obscene somehow that everyone agrees that a massive criminal act was committed, but no one is going to jail.
Sure, sure - fining them a few weeks income will discourage this kind of thing in the future, not as much as a CEO who's worried that if it happens again he'll end up sharing bunk space with Bubba the redneck methhead rapist with HIV and poor impulse control.


Just remember to kick someone's ass the first day, or become someone's biatch. Then everything will be all right.
 
2013-02-26 01:31:55 PM
Sorry subby, even in Fark I'm not seeing a lot to be amused about in an accident in which people were burned to death.  Not to mention everything else that resulted.
 
2013-02-26 01:38:21 PM
Have any Republican lawmakers yet apologized to BP for these accusations?
 
2013-02-26 01:42:27 PM
The trial put profits over safety? Damn greedy lawyers.
 
2013-02-26 01:44:10 PM
The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts.
 
2013-02-26 01:49:13 PM

Karac: BP agreed to pay $4.5bn (£2.9bn) last year to settle criminal charges relating to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

It seems obscene somehow that everyone agrees that a massive criminal act was committed, but no one is going to jail.
Sure, sure - fining them a few weeks income will discourage this kind of thing in the future, not as much as a CEO who's worried that if it happens again he'll end up sharing bunk space with Bubba the redneck methhead rapist with HIV and poor impulse control.


This trial is the civil trial.   BP here will pay penalties for environmental and financial damages to the gulf of mexico and all bordering states.   The 16B (iirc) number yesterday was the offer for settlement from the US and states to BP, and would have been the largest settlement for environmental damages under superfund.

Criminal charges were settled for 4.5b last year.
 
2013-02-26 02:15:06 PM

Raoul Eaton: Sorry subby, even in Fark I'm not seeing a lot to be amused about in an accident in which people were burned to death.  Not to mention everything else that resulted.


yeah. People died in a fire.
 
2013-02-26 02:15:14 PM
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2013-02-26 02:16:38 PM

f4rmerbob: Karac: BP agreed to pay $4.5bn (£2.9bn) last year to settle criminal charges relating to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

It seems obscene somehow that everyone agrees that a massive criminal act was committed, but no one is going to jail.
Sure, sure - fining them a few weeks income will discourage this kind of thing in the future, not as much as a CEO who's worried that if it happens again he'll end up sharing bunk space with Bubba the redneck methhead rapist with HIV and poor impulse control.

This trial is the civil trial.   BP here will pay penalties for environmental and financial damages to the gulf of mexico and all bordering states.   The 16B (iirc) number yesterday was the offer for settlement from the US and states to BP, and would have been the largest settlement for environmental damages under superfund.

Criminal charges were settled for 4.5b last year.



I agree with Karac's sentiment though. BP plead guilty to manslaughter but no one went to jail. In my mind it can't be both ways. If a corporation is a person, crimes against people should be punishable by imprisonment. Anything else is just a cost of doing business to be evaluated in a new project's risk assessment.
 
2013-02-26 02:19:19 PM

f4rmerbob: Karac: BP agreed to pay $4.5bn (£2.9bn) last year to settle criminal charges relating to the spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

It seems obscene somehow that everyone agrees that a massive criminal act was committed, but no one is going to jail.
Sure, sure - fining them a few weeks income will discourage this kind of thing in the future, not as much as a CEO who's worried that if it happens again he'll end up sharing bunk space with Bubba the redneck methhead rapist with HIV and poor impulse control.

This trial is the civil trial.   BP here will pay penalties for environmental and financial damages to the gulf of mexico and all bordering states.   The 16B (iirc) number yesterday was the offer for settlement from the US and states to BP, and would have been the largest settlement for environmental damages under superfund.

Criminal charges were settled for 4.5b last year.


Uhhh, yeah - I mentioned that.  In fact, it was kinda my whole point - by settling even BP admitted they were criminally liable.  You'd think that at some point along the way to racking up four and a half billion dollars in fines you'd pass from misdemeanor into felony territory.
 
2013-02-26 02:20:02 PM
Wait until it hits your anus.
 
2013-02-26 02:21:33 PM
Someone should hang for this.
 
2013-02-26 02:29:54 PM
Defense:  C'Mon!  It all was going fine until that ONE DAY!   Give us break!
 
2013-02-26 02:32:17 PM
"We are gonna gut the very bowels of the land and seabeds, remove forests, put gasoline in your water, burn off millions in natural gas. loot, pillage and decimate the very fabric of the planet and charge you 3.899 a gallon for it while we eat grapes, fondle little boys and rub pure cocaine on our genitals at a club you can never afford to apply to.  You cool with that?"

"Uh, sure.  Yeah."

"I would like to hold up this sign protesting the shenanigans of the filthy rich, please"

"GUANTANAMO, MOTHERF*CKER!  YOU EVER BEEN TO GUANTANAMO??"
 
2013-02-26 02:37:01 PM
meanwhile the US government continues to send truckloads of money to BP for petroleum product to fuel their military death machines. hypocrites.
 
2013-02-26 02:42:17 PM
We came up with this nifty little doodad about 120 years ago that allows for blowing up flammable vapors in an enclosed space and using that to move a piston.  120 years ago.  One hundred and twenty f*cking years ago.  That's IT?  We got off the bus there so Rockefeller's grandkids can't wipe their ass with rose scented silk forever?  That's it?  We arced and peaked?  Next reel, please.
 
2013-02-26 02:49:36 PM
 Rockefeller's grandkids can't can
 
2013-02-26 02:58:17 PM
BP has done more to clean up from this spill then Exxon has done since the Exxon Valdez crashed in 1989.

FARK EXXON.
 
2013-02-26 03:18:12 PM
Why won't 0bama apologise to BP for getting American sand and water all over their oil?
 
2013-02-26 04:07:02 PM

Will never do a single day in jail, nor pay a cent in fines.
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Total compensation for 2010: $1,053,000 -source
 
2013-02-26 04:08:21 PM
Lets all be honest, the Gulf of Mexico was a petri-dish of sewage before the Oil Spill and remains so to this day.
 
2013-02-26 05:09:09 PM

KrispyKritter: meanwhile the US government continues to send truckloads of money to BP for petroleum product to fuel their military death machines. hypocrites.


Interestingly, that's changing quite quickly now, especially with the Navy and Marines. Mostly because they don't want fuel sources constrained during a period of war.

The meat of their efforts come down to:
halve petroleum use in the Navy's 50,000 commercial vehicle fleet by 2015, with the use of hybrids and electric vehicles;
- by 2020 each base be at least 50-percent self-powered by renewables like solar, wind, and wave energy;
- at least 50 percent of the Navy's total energy consumption comes from alternative sources by 2020; this includes all ships and aircraft

Between nuclear powered ships, >50% biofuel fueled aircraft, and renewable powered bases - in less than 7 years time, the navy is going to become an unstoppable fighting force that requires a small fraction of its current petroleum needs.

Too bad the rest of America is unwilling to do the same.
 
2013-02-26 05:35:44 PM

safetycap: Will never do a single day in jail, nor pay a cent in fines.


Total compensation for 2010: $1,053,000 -source


1 mil does not seem like a whole
Heck of a lot of money
 
2013-02-26 05:42:22 PM

Pangea: I agree with Karac's sentiment though. BP plead guilty to manslaughter but no one went to jail. In my mind it can't be both ways. If a corporation is a person, crimes against people should be punishable by imprisonment. Anything else is just a cost of doing business to be evaluated in a new project's risk assessment.


The average person doesn't get to just pay some money in lieu of jail time if convicted of manslaughter.The double standards for people and corporations are amazingly screwed up in this country.
 
2013-02-26 06:21:53 PM
Russians don't smile because they consider it a sign of mental illness.
 
2013-02-26 10:16:37 PM

safetycap: Will never do a single day in jail, nor pay a cent in fines.
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Total compensation for 2010: $1,053,000 -source



He should have been able to see that the BOPE was plumbed incorrectly from his corner office. That Biatch.
 
2013-02-26 10:29:18 PM

MrSteve007: KrispyKritter: meanwhile the US government continues to send truckloads of money to BP for petroleum product to fuel their military death machines. hypocrites.

Interestingly, that's changing quite quickly now, especially with the Navy and Marines. Mostly because they don't want fuel sources constrained during a period of war.

The meat of their efforts come down to:
-  halve petroleum use in the Navy's 50,000 commercial vehicle fleet by 2015, with the use of hybrids and electric vehicles;
- by 2020 each base be at least 50-percent self-powered by renewables like solar, wind, and wave energy;
- at least 50 percent of the Navy's total energy consumption comes from alternative sources by 2020; this includes all ships and aircraft

Between nuclear powered ships, >50% biofuel fueled aircraft, and renewable powered bases - in less than 7 years time, the navy is going to become an unstoppable fighting force that requires a small fraction of its current petroleum needs.

Too bad the rest of America is unwilling to do the same.


Actually, I'd suspect the military to be the bellwether here; if they're moving towards a technology or fuel source, that means either A) it's now reaching technological and engineering feasibility, or B) we're really at risk of running out much sooner than later.  We should consider that a good sign.
 
2013-02-26 10:48:26 PM
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Teddy is not impressed.
 
2013-02-27 04:53:04 AM
Is the prosecutor Mr. N. S. Sherlock?
 
2013-02-27 06:17:41 AM

MrSteve007: Too bad the rest of America is unwilling to do the same.


There are few things more fleeting than the big smile on someone's face who is sitting in their big SUV with a 30 day tag.

I hate high gas prices as much as the next guy, but the higher it goes the quicker there will be an alternative breakthrough. That's where America's willingness will lie.
 
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