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(WBAL-TV Baltimore)   Future Nobel Prize winner in physics, MENSA member, and current stripper figures out that your employer should probably be paying you some sort of wage, rather than the other way around. Oh, and she's been there for 2 years   (wbaltv.com) divider line 186
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2013-02-26 01:44:25 PM
FTA:  "I learned that I'm not supposed to be paying you to work -- you're supposed to be paying me," she said.

Well, if they were smart enough to get a REAL job, they wouldn't be taking their clothes off for money.

Further proof:


"I've learned I have rights and I want my money," an exotic dancer named Danielle Everett told the 11 News I-Team.Everett, 26, has been a performer at the Ebony Inn for two years. Her stage name is Jasmine.


Case closed.
 
2013-02-26 01:55:57 PM
It seems like every other undereducated workforce in this country has political blowhards who can't shut up about the violations their constituents face every day.  Unions, associations, lobbyists - the strippers of this country don't have anyone looking out for them.

Probably not the popular opinion here, but I'm sympathetic to them.
 
2013-02-26 02:00:49 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-26 02:15:43 PM

ITGreen: It seems like every other undereducated workforce in this country has political blowhards who can't shut up about the violations their constituents face every day.  Unions, associations, lobbyists - the strippers of this country don't have anyone looking out for them.

Probably not the popular opinion here, but I'm sympathetic to them.


Why can't you hate women like all the other farkers?
 
2013-02-26 02:15:55 PM
so you agree to take a job, where it is agreed when you hired the only income you get is from tips.  Then later complain you should be getting a regular paycheck.  Then maybe.. you think... your employer is going to want to get a percentage of your tips?
 
2013-02-26 02:16:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-26 02:17:25 PM
all of them are always "studying to be a nurse"
 
2013-02-26 02:18:14 PM
I believe that is common practice round these parts as well.  They are independent "performers" and they pay a fee to the club owner to dance there.

Er, so I've heard anyway.
 
2013-02-26 02:18:16 PM

ITGreen: It seems like every other undereducated workforce in this country has political blowhards who can't shut up about the violations their constituents face every day.  Unions, associations, lobbyists - the strippers of this country don't have anyone looking out for them.

Probably not the popular opinion here, but I'm sympathetic to them.


You'd be surprised
 
2013-02-26 02:18:24 PM
I'm going to laugh  my ass off when she ends up with a net loss when she goes from mostly untraceable cash tips, to being put on a payroll and has all of the proper tax deductions taken out.
 
2013-02-26 02:18:35 PM
This is actually completely normal for strippers all across the country.  It's expected that you pay the establishment for the right to sell your stripping services in their bar and that you also subsidize the cost of the bouncer.

Normally, the strippers themselves are treated as subcontractors of sorts, legally.  As far as the establishment is concerned, they're completely independent workers who are just leasing the right to use their bar to make money, and they collect nightly fees from each of them for the right.

I'm guessing this has been tried many, many times in the past and has always been dismissed.

/not a stripper
//have had psychotic female stripper friends
///they still made WAY more than I did waiting tables, even after the cashout.
 
2013-02-26 02:19:25 PM
Pay her minimum wage and don't allow her to be tipped.

See how long she lasts.
 
2013-02-26 02:22:27 PM

Snapper Carr: ITGreen: It seems like every other undereducated workforce in this country has political blowhards who can't shut up about the violations their constituents face every day.  Unions, associations, lobbyists - the strippers of this country don't have anyone looking out for them.

Probably not the popular opinion here, but I'm sympathetic to them.

You'd be surprised


Can I volunteer to be a legal aid for that union?  You wouldn't even need to pay me; I'd work pro-boner.

*rimshot*
 
2013-02-26 02:22:28 PM
A photo would have been helpful in judging whether or not to be sympathetic to this woman's plight.
 
2013-02-26 02:23:20 PM
there's an interesting netflix documentary about strippers trying to unionize.  it was pretty good.  i'm not going to search for it at work, but i'm sure someone can find it.
 
2013-02-26 02:23:24 PM

kkinnison: so you agree to take a job, where it is agreed when you hired the only income you get is from tips.  Then later complain you should be getting a regular paycheck.  Then maybe.. you think... your employer is going to want to get a percentage of your tips?


TFA She said she never signed a contract or any agreement. She worked 40 hours a week and followed the club's rules, which included paying a $20 house fee before each show and fines of at least $10 any time she was late for work, plus various other fees.

Here is the problem: She's right.
She is treated like an employee, has to work specific hours like an employee, is disciplined for infractions like an employee.  The supreme court says she should be paid like an employee.


But, I guess if she's doing a legal job, because she's a stripper, then its ok not to pay her.  [/sarcasm]
 
2013-02-26 02:23:25 PM

Sgt Otter: I'm going to laugh  my ass off when she ends up with a net loss when she goes from mostly untraceable cash tips, to being put on a payroll and has all of the proper tax deductions taken out.


But then HOW WILL SHE PAY FOR COLLEGE?
 
2013-02-26 02:24:03 PM

MaxxLarge: Case closed.


Get to the part where her two kids have to see mommy's name in the paper (again)
 
2013-02-26 02:24:32 PM
Let me guess "Independent Contractor"
*reads article*
There ya go.  She may have a case with the late fee, but I wouldn't bet on it.
 
2013-02-26 02:25:42 PM
The trajectory of this thread will change dramatically if a certain TFette appears.
 
2013-02-26 02:25:57 PM

CujoQuarrel: Pay her minimum wage and don't allow her to be tipped.

See how long she lasts.


Or, pay her the same minimum wage a waitress gets (usually a LOT less than minimum) and let her get tips.  I know.  Paying people for what they do is generally frowned upon here at Fark.
 
2013-02-26 02:26:24 PM
if strippers weren't raking in big cash money they wouldn't be willing to put up with this to begin with. using what mother nature gave you for free to exploit lonely horny men doesn't require much education or effort.

many people who work in popular restaurants have to pay for the privilege. the owner knows they're making cash galore. no one is having a gun put to their head. tax free dollars are the tastiest dollars.
 
2013-02-26 02:26:44 PM

maddogdelta: kkinnison: so you agree to take a job, where it is agreed when you hired the only income you get is from tips.  Then later complain you should be getting a regular paycheck.  Then maybe.. you think... your employer is going to want to get a percentage of your tips?

TFA She said she never signed a contract or any agreement. She worked 40 hours a week and followed the club's rules, which included paying a $20 house fee before each show and fines of at least $10 any time she was late for work, plus various other fees.

Here is the problem: She's right.
She is treated like an employee, has to work specific hours like an employee, is disciplined for infractions like an employee.  The supreme court says she should be paid like an employee.


But, I guess if she's doing a legal job, because she's a stripper, then its ok not to pay her.  [/sarcasm]


What about hair dressers?  Isn't it basically the same agreement?  You pay $X every month for your booth and keep Y% of what you bring in.
 
2013-02-26 02:27:21 PM

Sgt Otter: I'm going to laugh  my ass off when she ends up with a net loss when she goes from mostly untraceable cash tips, to being put on a payroll and has all of the proper tax deductions taken out.


Um, she just had her second kid. Maybe she bounced back but, my guess, I don't want to see that "entertaining" me (paid or not).
 
2013-02-26 02:28:46 PM
Black strippers.

Keep your pics, thread.  Please, keep being useless.
 
2013-02-26 02:29:18 PM
I have known many strippers in my life. I like them. They are not pretentious and you know exactly what to expect. They are exceptionally fun to be around and hit the town with. I have also found them to be quite generous and honest, for the most part. I am not necessarily agreeing with what this particular one is saying, but I get her point. But, I am pretty sure she knew the rules of the game before kickoff.
 
2013-02-26 02:30:33 PM

dudemanbro: A photo would have been helpful in judging whether or not to be sympathetic to this woman's plight. I give one shiat.


Pretty sure I don't
 
2013-02-26 02:30:34 PM

MaxxLarge: FTA:  "I learned that I'm not supposed to be paying you to work -- you're supposed to be paying me," she said.

Well, if they were smart enough to get a REAL job, they wouldn't be taking their clothes off for money.

Further proof:


"I've learned I have rights and I want my money," an exotic dancer named Danielle Everett told the 11 News I-Team.Everett, 26, has been a performer at the Ebony Inn for two years. Her stage name is Jasmine.


Case closed.


Because someone being slightly less intelligent than you means that you are a better person and they are not worthy of respect?
 
2013-02-26 02:33:40 PM

Nasty_McFilth: maddogdelta: kkinnison: so you agree to take a job, where it is agreed when you hired the only income you get is from tips.  Then later complain you should be getting a regular paycheck.  Then maybe.. you think... your employer is going to want to get a percentage of your tips?

TFA She said she never signed a contract or any agreement. She worked 40 hours a week and followed the club's rules, which included paying a $20 house fee before each show and fines of at least $10 any time she was late for work, plus various other fees.

Here is the problem: She's right.
She is treated like an employee, has to work specific hours like an employee, is disciplined for infractions like an employee.  The supreme court says she should be paid like an employee.


But, I guess if she's doing a legal job, because she's a stripper, then its ok not to pay her.  [/sarcasm]

What about hair dressers?  Isn't it basically the same agreement?  You pay $X every month for your booth and keep Y% of what you bring in.


Most employers tend to get the terms in writing.  If this strip club didn't, then its all on them.
 
2013-02-26 02:34:19 PM
I don't know what a stripper might look like. Can anyone help me?
 
2013-02-26 02:34:33 PM
Remember: Women don't go into stripping because they don't have brains or job skills. They do it because they're empowered and stuff and all grade A honours college students having a bit of a lark and redefining patriarchy. No, it couldn't be where the otherwise unemployable end up.
 
2013-02-26 02:34:53 PM
Same basic concept as hair salons/barbershops/brothels. You are renting the retail space in order to sell you services.
 
2013-02-26 02:34:59 PM
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don't pay her.
 
2013-02-26 02:35:31 PM
I'm pretty sure this case was heard and the strippers won. or at least a similar case
 
2013-02-26 02:35:42 PM
"I learned that I'm not supposed to be paying you to work -- you're supposed to be paying me," she said.

Tell that to beauticians who rent a chair in a salon or anyone who rents office space in which they conduct business.

The club owner went through a lot of shiat and spent a lot of money to provide a safe and legal venue in which you can conduct your business.  The community calls him a scumbag.  He's got morality groups riding his ass day and night trying every trick in the book to shut down the business.  He's probably paying more to his lawyer every month than you make in a year.  You're welcome, honey.

Guns n' Farkin Roses: Can I volunteer to be a legal aid for that union?  You wouldn't even need to pay me; I'd work pro-boner.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-26 02:35:59 PM

griffer: Black strippers.

Keep your pics, thread.  Please, keep being useless.


Just because you don't like dark meat, you racist, white bread, punk-ass, honky?
 
2013-02-26 02:36:38 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I don't know what a stripper might look like. Can anyone help me?


Oh, that was a mistake
 
2013-02-26 02:37:21 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I don't know what a stripper might look like. Can anyone help me?


www.maximumjanitorialservice.com
 
2013-02-26 02:37:58 PM

jtown: The club owner went through a lot of shiat and spent a lot of money to provide a safe and legal venue in which you can conduct your business. The community calls him a scumbag. He's got morality groups riding his ass day and night trying every trick in the book to shut down the business. He's probably paying more to his lawyer every month than you make in a year. You're welcome, honey.


yeah, he's a real humanitarian martyr.
 
2013-02-26 02:38:19 PM

sno man: Let me guess "Independent Contractor"
*reads article*
There ya go.  She may have a case with the late fee, but I wouldn't bet on it.



More like a franchisee.
 
2013-02-26 02:39:52 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I don't know what a stripper might look like. Can anyone help me?


www.southwesthireandsales.co.uk
 
2013-02-26 02:40:21 PM

derpy: jtown: The club owner went through a lot of shiat and spent a lot of money to provide a safe and legal venue in which you can conduct your business. The community calls him a scumbag. He's got morality groups riding his ass day and night trying every trick in the book to shut down the business. He's probably paying more to his lawyer every month than you make in a year. You're welcome, honey.

yeah, he's a real humanitarian martyr.


I never said he was a great guy.  I said he went to a lot of effort to provide the venue and she's biatching about having to pay a pittance to use it.
 
2013-02-26 02:40:44 PM
My first job out of college was VIP manager at one of the nicer gentleman's clubs on Bourbon St, and that's just how it works. Dancers are independent contractors, like barbers. The fees they pay are basically rent for the space and services they get from the club. At the place where I worked, they had to pay a lot more than $80, but they made plenty enough for that to be worth it.
 
2013-02-26 02:40:48 PM
synthesis.net
 
2013-02-26 02:42:07 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I don't know what a stripper might look like. Can anyone help me?


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-26 02:43:17 PM

Farce-Side: griffer: Black strippers.

Keep your pics, thread.  Please, keep being useless.

Just because you don't like dark meat, you racist, white bread, punk-ass, honky?


Good point. Let me amend that. Pics of ingorant, twice pregnant, ghetto strippers are not wanted in my thread, regardless what color that crack and meth ho may be.
 
2013-02-26 02:43:40 PM

chairmenmeow47: there's an interesting netflix documentary about strippers trying to unionize.  it was pretty good.  i'm not going to search for it at work, but i'm sure someone can find it.


When you say "good" do you mean "interesting and thought-provoking" or "spankbank material"?
 
2013-02-26 02:44:12 PM
All this just means that cover charges will double, as well as the cost if you buy a stripper that glass of pineapple juice she asked for.

MD strip clubs are depressing, anyway.

Lost Thought 00: Sin_City_Superhero: I don't know what a stripper might look like. Can anyone help me?

Oh, that was a mistake


And me without my 'special' thumb drive.
 
2013-02-26 02:44:38 PM

maddogdelta: kkinnison: so you agree to take a job, where it is agreed when you hired the only income you get is from tips.  Then later complain you should be getting a regular paycheck.  Then maybe.. you think... your employer is going to want to get a percentage of your tips?

TFA She said she never signed a contract or any agreement. She worked 40 hours a week and followed the club's rules, which included paying a $20 house fee before each show and fines of at least $10 any time she was late for work, plus various other fees.

Here is the problem: She's right.
She is treated like an employee, has to work specific hours like an employee, is disciplined for infractions like an employee.  The supreme court says she should be paid like an employee.


But, I guess if she's doing a legal job, because she's a stripper, then its ok not to pay her.  [/sarcasm]


She paying income tax and paying into SS and medicare like an employee?
 
2013-02-26 02:44:38 PM
I though all the nicer strip clubs were like this.  You paid to dance there.
 
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