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(Toronto Star)   Bad: Cop faces charges for not investigating crime. Worse: racial taunts. Fark: Against Himself   (thestar.com) divider line 53
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2013-02-26 02:07:43 PM  
That doesn't even make sense. How is someone supposed to investigate himself? Clearly the cop figured out it was largely beer fuelled, and left it at that.  Hope he gets a pass on this.
 
2013-02-26 02:24:17 PM  
So, cop with dignity rises above mongs, cop in trouble.  Cop shoots 8 people, cop gets a week off.?   :  /
 
2013-02-26 02:24:24 PM  
In Muirhead's version of the incident, which as obtained by the Star, investigating officers could see two shirtless males who appeared to be hiding on the farm.

Nothing good ever comes of shirtless males.

Dudes, unless you're at the beach or the pool, nobody wants to see your manly nipples.

/can't remember the last time my torso saw a photon of UVB
//I'm so pale I make ivory look like ebony
 
2013-02-26 02:25:15 PM  
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2013-02-26 02:25:34 PM  
Now they're arresting for "Policing while black."

I commend him for having the state of mind to attempt to de-escalate the situation. Granted, this is heavily skewed towards the cop's POV, but still.
 
2013-02-26 02:29:09 PM  
wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?
 
2013-02-26 02:30:02 PM  

efgeise: Now they're arresting for "Policing while black."

I commend him for having the state of mind to attempt to de-escalate the situation. Granted, this is heavily skewed towards the cop's POV, but still.


Well, when the complaint is that he knocked someones jacket on the floor and didn't apologize, it is hard to see that he did anything wrong, the worst possible interpretation is that he is overstating how aggressive or insulting they were, which is going to be hard to prove either way (unless someone taped it all).
 
2013-02-26 02:31:17 PM  

reillan: wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?


I think it's a crime in whatever country this happened in.
 
2013-02-26 02:32:06 PM  
Racial Taunts.  It's a crime.
Who knew?

/Farm Party. LOL!
 
2013-02-26 02:32:41 PM  

bunner: So, cop with dignity rises above mongs, cop in trouble.  Cop shoots 8 people, cop gets a week off.?   :  /


The whole thing seems very Canadian to me.  He's in trouble for not... being angry enough?  Or something?  Even after reading the whole article, I'm confused.  "People were drunk and I ignored their drunk redneck insults" seems reason for praise, not condemnation.

Are the supervisors surprised that the drunk rednecks were also racist?  Does that really deserve "investigation"?  Tell you what, I can investigate from here in mah armchair over Teh Intarwebz, and the result of my investigation is that drunken rednecks are racist and ignorant and should be treated with all the polite disdain that they deserve.  (To their faces, anyhow.  After they pass out we'll make fun of them, because that's also what they deserve.)

If it had been a New York City cop instead of a Toronto cop, he'd be in trouble for not opening fire as soon as he stepped out of the vehicle and saw movement.
 
2013-02-26 02:33:01 PM  
bunner:

So, cop with dignity rises above mongs, cop in trouble.  Cop shoots 8 people, cop gets a week off.?   :  /

Silly, cops are supposed to be brutal. How else would we know they have penises?
 
2013-02-26 02:34:43 PM  
Had he tazed them in self-defense, all would be well?
 
2013-02-26 02:35:32 PM  
The article doesn't say much, but this paragraph:

At this point, according to Muirhead's explanation to his police superiors, he stepped back to de-escalate the tension while a fellow officer and the man who owned the jacket yelled at each other, with the motorcyclist calling the police officer a "(expletive) pig."

Makes me suspect that Muirhead was being a dick and got everyone fired up, then stood back and did nothing when things started getting out of hand. The other cops had to de-escalate the situation that Muirhead caused. This suspicion is bolstered by the fact that one of the internal charges against him is insubordination. I'm guessing a supervisor told him to shut up and GTFO and he didn't. Just a guess though.
 
2013-02-26 02:40:03 PM  

reillan: wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?


I agree.  Would this have been an issue if a white cop where called a redneck or a cracker?

No.

If you challenge the arrest of a cop arresting you for flipping him the bird you should win everytime, although there are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights all together.
 
2013-02-26 02:41:03 PM  
Canada? Sounds more like northern Arkansas.
 
2013-02-26 02:50:15 PM  
Farm party?

And I though a lemon party was bad.
 
2013-02-26 02:52:15 PM  

Kenny B: Canada? Sounds more like northern Arkansas.


It's just north (maybe 30 mins.) of Toronto, and mostly pretty normal, fairly diverse mostly suburb.  But here and there, there are pockets of country, full of shallow gene pool hillbillies that if their rusting pickup has a tailgate, it's probably painted with a rebel flag.  Canada's not immune.
 
2013-02-26 02:53:11 PM  

boinkingbill: reillan: wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?

I agree.  Would this have been an issue if a white cop where called a redneck or a cracker?

No.

If you challenge the arrest of a cop arresting you for flipping him the bird you should win everytime, although there are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights all together.


There are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights...
 
2013-02-26 02:58:37 PM  
Heh, when I read farm party, this is what came to mind...

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2013-02-26 03:04:35 PM  

Bondith: In Muirhead's version of the incident, which as obtained by the Star, investigating officers could see two shirtless males who appeared to be hiding on the farm.

Nothing good ever comes of shirtless males.

Dudes, unless you're at the beach or the pool, nobody wants to see your manly nipples.

/can't remember the last time my torso saw a photon of UVB
//I'm so pale I make ivory look like ebony


During the summertime I rarely wear a shirt unless I have to. All the fat guys have comments about how lame that is, too.
 
2013-02-26 03:04:56 PM  

boinkingbill: reillan: wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?

I agree.  Would this have been an issue if a white cop where called a redneck or a cracker?

No.

If you challenge the arrest of a cop arresting you for flipping him the bird you should win everytime, although there are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights all together.


There are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights.
 
2013-02-26 03:14:50 PM  

CruiserTwelve: The article doesn't say much, but this paragraph:

At this point, according to Muirhead's explanation to his police superiors, he stepped back to de-escalate the tension while a fellow officer and the man who owned the jacket yelled at each other, with the motorcyclist calling the police officer a "(expletive) pig."

Makes me suspect that Muirhead was being a dick and got everyone fired up, then stood back and did nothing when things started getting out of hand. The other cops had to de-escalate the situation that Muirhead caused. This suspicion is bolstered by the fact that one of the internal charges against him is insubordination. I'm guessing a supervisor told him to shut up and GTFO and he didn't. Just a guess though.


Is it...opposite day or something?

NumberFiveIsAlive: boinkingbill: reillan: wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?

I agree.  Would this have been an issue if a white cop where called a redneck or a cracker?

No.

If you challenge the arrest of a cop arresting you for flipping him the bird you should win everytime, although there are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights all together.

There are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights...


There are some courts in this country that tend to ignore the Bill of Rights...
 
2013-02-26 03:22:36 PM  

reillan: wait, since when was it a crime to call someone names, even if they're highly derogatory?  If it's not a crime, why would this pig need to investigate it?


Hate speech is illegal in many third world nations.
 
2013-02-26 03:25:42 PM  

sno man: Kenny B: Canada? Sounds more like northern Arkansas.

It's just north (maybe 30

10 mins.) of Toronto over-developed Dick Hill, and mostly pretty normal, fairly diverse mostly suburb new money prigs.  But here and there, there are pockets of country the last remnants of once beautiful fields and farmlands, full of shallow gene pool hillbillies that if their rusting pickup has a tailgate people who used to enjoy the open country. Canada's not immune to invasion.

Listen, I don't like rednecks any more than discos or guys who fart around in ricers, but I will tell you that York region was once an idyllic and wide open place to have fun. Now, it's an over-populated sea of jerks who can't drive, can't converse, and can't care about anyone but "Io solo!". And all through that story is the old line that "York Pork" were just the angry guys who couldn't make Metro. They would rough you up, steal your stuff, and dare you to complain.
 
2013-02-26 03:25:56 PM  
The story isn't well written, but it seems one of the guys alleged the cop mistreated them. The cop then said the entire time he was there they threatened him and used racial slurs. And the cops superiors said he should have reported that to begin with.
 
2013-02-26 03:32:59 PM  

barefoot in the head: sno man: Kenny B: Canada? Sounds more like northern Arkansas.

It's just north (maybe 30 10 mins.) of Toronto over-developed Dick Hill, and mostly pretty normal, fairly diverse mostly suburb new money prigs.  But here and there, there are pockets of country the last remnants of once beautiful fields and farmlands, full of shallow gene pool hillbillies that if their rusting pickup has a tailgate people who used to enjoy the open country. Canada's not immune to invasion.

Listen, I don't like rednecks any more than discos or guys who fart around in ricers, but I will tell you that York region was once an idyllic and wide open place to have fun. Now, it's an over-populated sea of jerks who can't drive, can't converse, and can't care about anyone but "Io solo!". And all through that story is the old line that "York Pork" were just the angry guys who couldn't make Metro. They would rough you up, steal your stuff, and dare you to complain.


Simcoe County still has many of the things you lament, just stay the hell away from south Barrie. You'll want to kill yourself.
 
2013-02-26 03:39:03 PM  
To be fair, the 'hanging from a tree' could have been taken as a threat.  You could argue, that for the safety of police in general any threat should be investigated, and once the threat was made everyone within earshot became a material witness and should have identified themselves.  It comes down to a judgement call.
 
2013-02-26 03:42:45 PM  
sno man:
Simcoe County still has many of the things you lament, just stay the hell away from south Barrie. You'll want to kill yourself.

Yep. I have transplanted family there and lived near the college for a year. If you leave a store without speaking the offical departing slogan, they will chase you down the street and make you repeat "Have a gud deey!" one hundred times.
 
2013-02-26 03:44:05 PM  
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The sheriff is a Canadi {{ BONG }}
 
2013-02-26 03:47:54 PM  
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Le shérif est un Canadi - {{ BONG  }}

/Sorry about the double post
//The second is in French
///Canadian law, you know
 
2013-02-26 04:08:10 PM  
Stay classy, Canada.

I don't get many opportunities to look down my nose at your conduct- let me have this one.
 
2013-02-26 04:17:03 PM  
Where in the article (other than the headline) does it say the the cop is being punished for failing to investigate anything?  The second paragraph in the article says he's being reprimanded for his conduct during the incident.  According to the complaint, the cop acted like a jerk and the citizen filed a complaint.  Isn't that exactly what is supposed to happen?  Doesn't Fark always complain that citizen complaints are not followed up on?  How is the fact that he was taunted relevant to the article?
 
2013-02-26 04:27:45 PM  

ForgotMyTowel: Where in the article (other than the headline) does it say the the cop is being punished for failing to investigate anything?


The last paragraph:
"The complaint to the Office of the Independent Police Review director was referred to York Regional Police, who charged Muirhead with neglect of duty for not investigating the racial threat allegations against himself."
 
2013-02-26 04:33:39 PM  

Amos Quito: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]
Le shérif est un Canadi - {{ BONG le bruit d'un gong rend  }}


FTFQuebecois


/Apparently, it is "DONG". who knew?
 
2013-02-26 04:36:25 PM  
Maybe he got over it?
 
2013-02-26 04:37:34 PM  

oryx: ForgotMyTowel: Where in the article (other than the headline) does it say the the cop is being punished for failing to investigate anything?

The last paragraph:
"The complaint to the Office of the Independent Police Review director was referred to York Regional Police, who charged Muirhead with neglect of duty for not investigating the racial threat allegations against himself."


I may be going out on a limb here but I think the author misunderstood what he was being charged for.  That sentence seems to imply that the complaint filed by the citizen was that people were directing racial comments toward the cop.  The Police Review board then asked the cop to review the complaint (that people were making racial comments toward the cop) and the cop failed to do so?  Does that even begin to make any sense?

What we actually know from the rest of the article was that the citizen filed a complaint saying the cop was being a jerk and the he was charged for that.

"He faces Police Act charges of insubordination, discreditable conduct and neglect of duty after a civilian alleges he was rudely treated on the Victoria Day long weekend in May 2011. "
 
2013-02-26 04:39:54 PM  
cop keeps his cool=in trouble
cop tazes someone=in trouble
cop shoots someone=in trouble
cop sees trouble and just drives-by=good day of work,no paperwork,no trouble for him
now what would be YOUR plan for the day?


kept his cool,professional demeanor,way to go!!
 
2013-02-26 04:40:28 PM  

ForgotMyTowel: "He faces Police Act charges of insubordination, discreditable conduct and neglect of duty after a civilian alleges he was rudely treated on the Victoria Day long weekend in May 2011. "


And people wonder why cops think less of citizens.


/Yeah yeah, in Canada. Whatever.
 
2013-02-26 04:43:52 PM  

ph0rk: ForgotMyTowel: "He faces Police Act charges of insubordination, discreditable conduct and neglect of duty after a civilian alleges he was rudely treated on the Victoria Day long weekend in May 2011. "

And people wonder why cops think less of citizens.


/Yeah yeah, in Canada. Whatever.


I don't know if the cop was right or wrong, sounds more like a he said she said thing.  I was more concerned about the widely inaccurate headline than anything else.
 
2013-02-26 04:44:55 PM  

ph0rk: Amos Quito: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]
Le shérif est un Canadi - {{ BONG le bruit d'un gong rend  }}


FTFQuebecois


/Apparently, it is "DONG". who knew?


3.bp.blogspot.com

Lilly Von Schtupp, that's who.
 
2013-02-26 04:47:39 PM  

ds615: Racial Taunts.  It's a crime.
Who knew?

/Farm Party. LOL!


Here in Colorado there is a law on the books when it comes to language. I can't remember the exact wording, but it's viewed as "fighting words" to instigate a confrontation.
 
2013-02-26 04:58:38 PM  

Amos Quito: ph0rk: Amos Quito: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]
Le shérif est un Canadi - {{ BONG le bruit d'un gong rend  }}


FTFQuebecois


/Apparently, it is "DONG". who knew?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 200x183]

Lilly Von Schtupp, that's who.


<nods> It's twue.
 
2013-02-26 04:59:33 PM  
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Damned if you do . . . .
 
2013-02-26 05:19:02 PM  
There were other cops there...shouldn't one of THEM have been investigating the racial remarks, rather than the object of the remarks investigating them himself?
 
2013-02-26 05:58:19 PM  
Are racial taunts something that are required to be investigated? If it was a civilian being taunted, could said civilian not press charges? If so, I would think that this would fall under a similar category.
 
2013-02-26 06:00:13 PM  
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This makes no freaking sense.
 
2013-02-26 06:21:17 PM  

caddisfly: [tribktla.files.wordpress.com image 299x235]
Damned if you do . . . .


Came here to say this.


Makes me wonder if there more to both stories....
 
2013-02-26 06:28:51 PM  
I hate your black pants. I hate black pepper. I hate black keys on a piano. I hate my gums, because they're black. I hate Whoopi Goldberg's *lips*. I hate the back of Forrest Whittaker's neck. Huh? Most of all, I hate that black-ass Wesley Snipes.

/MESSAAAAAGE!
 
2013-02-26 06:33:55 PM  
Sounds like the department is punishing the officer for not being more of a 'take control of the situation' and detaining all resisting individuals.  To put it another way, they wanted him to use his badge and weapons to subdue all and let the judge sort it out.  Maybe he'll get the message that only bullies wear badges, not reasonable thinkers in the face of confrontation.
 
2013-02-26 06:37:28 PM  

lack of warmth: Sounds like the department is punishing the officer for not being more of a 'take control of the situation' and detaining all resisting individuals.  To put it another way, they wanted him to use his badge and weapons to subdue all and let the judge sort it out.  Maybe he'll get the message that only bullies wear badges, not reasonable thinkers in the face of confrontation.


Sounds to me that he pissed off a bunch of people then stood back and let the other cops handle it.
 
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