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2013-02-26 09:04:25 AM
I'm betting the fighting skeletons and the giant statue of Talos weren't real either.
 
2013-02-26 09:58:01 AM

dittybopper: I'm betting the fighting skeletons and the giant statue of Talos weren't real either.


And I thought Jason wore a hockey mask.
 
2013-02-26 10:01:36 AM
the most egregious error, imho, was affleck's character wearing what was clearly a rolex deepsea sea dweller - a watch that wasn't introduced until just a few years ago. i mean, how hard would it have been to find him a vintage 1665 or at least a 5513? harumph!

/ok; i admit - that was not the most egregious error.
 
2013-02-26 10:09:01 AM
All I know is that Affleck's beard is LEGIT.
 
2013-02-26 10:21:48 AM

dittybopper: I'm betting the fighting skeletons and the giant statue of Talos weren't real either.


Holy sh*t.

i lol'd.
 
2013-02-26 10:29:28 AM
Oh Canada!
Ben Affleck made you mad
True patriots say, "That Argo movie's bad!"
With angry hearts your bile does rise
The True North is grumpy
The rest of us
Say, "Canada, It's just a dang movie."
We're thankful for your help in '80
But Canada, it's just a dang movie
But Canada, it's just a dang movie
 
2013-02-26 10:33:10 AM
This means Zero Dark Thirty gets the Oscar for Best Picture, and Ben Affleck has to start work on a sequel to "Paycheck."
 
2013-02-26 10:42:54 AM
From a related whiny article

"after Affleck thanked "everyone in the movie, on the movie, who worked on the movie, did anything with this movie," we got this: "I want to thank Canada "

He directed a farking movie for chrissakes.  He wasn't involved in the actual events.   What the hell else should he say?   Tell you what Canucks, make your own farking movie then you can set the record straight.

You guys need to seriously work on your inferiroity complex.  It's bad.
 
2013-02-26 10:43:59 AM

Rev.K: dittybopper: I'm betting the fighting skeletons and the giant statue of Talos weren't real either.

Holy sh*t.

i lol'd.


Heh. Glad I could be of service.

For those who don't get it:

Fighting skeletons.

Giant statue Talos.
 
2013-02-26 10:45:46 AM
I'd say the most egregious error of all is the Canuck twat who does not grasp the concept of "based on true events".
 
2013-02-26 10:45:57 AM

Marshmallow Jones: From a related whiny article

"after Affleck thanked "everyone in the movie, on the movie, who worked on the movie, did anything with this movie," we got this: "I want to thank Canada "

He directed a farking movie for chrissakes.  He wasn't involved in the actual events.   What the hell else should he say?   Tell you what Canucks, make your own farking movie then you can set the record straight.

You guys need to seriously work on your inferiroity complex.  It's bad.


Hey, don't lump us all in together as whiny biatches you overweight, large sizing, unilingual, gun toting, gas guzzler driving, house poor drunk.  It's not nice.
 
2013-02-26 10:51:03 AM
Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.
 
2013-02-26 10:52:14 AM
The writer's just pissed that Ricky Ray wasn't mentioned ONCE.
 
2013-02-26 10:55:58 AM
The pilot of a commercial 747 powering down the runway for take-off notices armed men in military vehicles pulling alongside trying to run them down. So he goes full-throttle... just to show those bastards!!!

Yeah, no.
 
2013-02-26 10:56:46 AM
Yeah, I wasn't a big fan either... but Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms.
 
2013-02-26 11:11:41 AM

SolomonKing: Yeah, I wasn't a big fan either... but Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms.


That movie would have been dope if he directed it.
 
2013-02-26 11:16:30 AM
While I do want to see "Argo" at some point...if there actually IS a swordfight at the airport, I will move it up on my Netfix queue post-haste.
 
2013-02-26 11:25:36 AM

Mr_Fabulous: The pilot of a commercial 747 powering down the runway for take-off notices armed men in military vehicles pulling alongside trying to run them down. So he goes full-throttle... just to show those bastards!!!

Yeah, no.


I dunno, it's exactly what I would do, especially if I were a white dude from a liberal country about to leave a failed nation in the throws of a religious conservative backlash teaming with western hate.

And besides, at least the way it happened in the movie there was no way he was stopping that plane before the end of the runway at that point.
 
2013-02-26 11:27:32 AM

Mr_Fabulous: The pilot of a commercial 747 powering down the runway for take-off notices armed men in military vehicles pulling alongside trying to run them down. So he goes full-throttle... just to show those bastards!!!

Yeah, no.



I was like a marionette in the theatre during that scene, and Affleck was pulling the strings. I know nothing bad's going to happen, and I know they get away, but between the adorable bit where the curmudgeon of the group is passionately explaining the movie plot in universally-human-story-of-fighting-evil terms, the bit with Arkin & Goodman saying 'fark it' to the street shoot, and fact that I love the sound of jet turbines, I just couldn't help but be on the edge my seat (figuratively - no one should be that guy in the theatre). It was fantastic filmmaking, even if it won't be regarded as groundbreaking in decades to come.

W.r.t. the jet chase, now I'm curious as to whether a pilot can even see anything behind his or her jet when taking off. I would assume no, and that they rely on tower control for that kind of info, but I really don't know.

Personally, I think they probably could've simply had the guards arriving too late for the plane on the tarmac, but I guess when you have the chance to shoot a jet-truck chase scene, you take it. They didn't actually get to shoot it like that, since the wash would've blow it away, but I'm sure it was still fun to do.

/Canadian, who understands that drama takes precedence over reality, even if it shifts the limelight
 
2013-02-26 11:32:06 AM
The ruined Hollywood sign?
 
2013-02-26 11:57:24 AM

Marshmallow Jones: From a related whiny article

"after Affleck thanked "everyone in the movie, on the movie, who worked on the movie, did anything with this movie," we got this: "I want to thank Canada "

He directed a farking movie for chrissakes.  He wasn't involved in the actual events.   What the hell else should he say?   Tell you what Canucks, make your own farking movie then you can set the record straight.

You guys need to seriously work on your inferiroity complex.  It's bad.


Yes but everyone knows Americans use films to teach their children history. A war could start due to Hollywood lies.

/probably against The British considering how much you've lied about us.
//and made us your bad guys.
 
2013-02-26 12:13:54 PM

Marshmallow Jones: From a related whiny article

"after Affleck thanked "everyone in the movie, on the movie, who worked on the movie, did anything with this movie," we got this: "I want to thank Canada "

He directed a farking movie for chrissakes.  He wasn't involved in the actual events.   What the hell else should he say?   Tell you what Canucks, make your own farking movie then you can set the record straight.

You guys need to seriously work on your inferiroity complex.  It's bad.


Just wait until our big epic Canadian movie comes out that forgets to depict Americans as having any part of WWII. It was us chainsaw-toting Canadians that single-handedly defeated the Nazis and and Japanese. That'll learn ya.

/of course, nobody will actually go see our damn movie...
 
2013-02-26 12:49:53 PM

SolomonKing: Yeah, I wasn't a big fan either... but Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms.


farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-26 12:51:10 PM
While they were at it they might as well have done what they did with The Sum of All Fears and make the Iranians into Nazis so as not to offend and save the overseas box office.
 
2013-02-26 12:59:54 PM

dittybopper: Rev.K: dittybopper: I'm betting the fighting skeletons and the giant statue of Talos weren't real either.

Holy sh*t.

i lol'd.

Heh. Glad I could be of service.

For those who don't get it:

Fighting skeletons.

Giant statue Talos.


Dude, if there was anyone who didn't get that they need to hand in their "movie-going public" membership card immediately and retreat back to their cave for another thousand years.
 
2013-02-26 01:00:25 PM

olapbill: Marshmallow Jones: From a related whiny article

"after Affleck thanked "everyone in the movie, on the movie, who worked on the movie, did anything with this movie," we got this: "I want to thank Canada "

He directed a farking movie for chrissakes.  He wasn't involved in the actual events.   What the hell else should he say?   Tell you what Canucks, make your own farking movie then you can set the record straight.

You guys need to seriously work on your inferiroity complex.  It's bad.

Hey, don't lump us all in together as whiny biatches you overweight, large sizing, unilingual, gun toting, gas guzzler driving, house poor drunk.  It's not nice.


8/10

You should have apologized and then thanked him.

/Eh!
 
2013-02-26 01:03:30 PM

Loomy: Mr_Fabulous: The pilot of a commercial 747 powering down the runway for take-off notices armed men in military vehicles pulling alongside trying to run them down. So he goes full-throttle... just to show those bastards!!!

Yeah, no.


I was like a marionette in the theatre during that scene, and Affleck was pulling the strings. I know nothing bad's going to happen, and I know they get away, but between the adorable bit where the curmudgeon of the group is passionately explaining the movie plot in universally-human-story-of-fighting-evil terms, the bit with Arkin & Goodman saying 'fark it' to the street shoot, and fact that I love the sound of jet turbines, I just couldn't help but be on the edge my seat (figuratively - no one should be that guy in the theatre). It was fantastic filmmaking, even if it won't be regarded as groundbreaking in decades to come.

W.r.t. the jet chase, now I'm curious as to whether a pilot can even see anything behind his or her jet when taking off. I would assume no, and that they rely on tower control for that kind of info, but I really don't know.

Personally, I think they probably could've simply had the guards arriving too late for the plane on the tarmac, but I guess when you have the chance to shoot a jet-truck chase scene, you take it. They didn't actually get to shoot it like that, since the wash would've blow it away, but I'm sure it was still fun to do.

/Canadian, who understands that drama takes precedence over reality, even if it shifts the limelight


My dad was a pilot for Pan Am back then. He participated in a very similar take off in Uganda just a few months before the hijacking at Entebbe. Fortunately, they were more interested in taking hostages than shooting down planes. Pretty sure he was still flying 707s at that point, with a jump to 747s happening not long after. His routes were in that region for years, spending probably 3 weeks out of every month in or over the Middle East. He has some interesting stories.
 
2013-02-26 01:03:59 PM
Marshmallow Jones: He directed a farking movie for chrissakes. He wasn't involved in the actual events. What the hell else should he say? Tell you what Canucks, make your own farking movie then you can set the record straight.

Escape from Iran: The Canadian Caper
 
2013-02-26 01:06:50 PM

downtownkid: I'd say the most egregious error of all is the Canuck twat who does not grasp the concept of "based on true events".


And yet Mr. Affleck kept going around and saying statements such as:

"You know, it was such a great story. For one thing, it's a thriller. It's actually comedy with the Hollywood satire. It's a complicated CIA movie, it's a political movie. And it's all true."
or
"This movie is about this story that took place, and it's true, and I go to pains to contextualize it and to try to be even-handed in a way that just means we're taking a cold, hard look at the facts."
or
"I tried to make a movie that is absolutely just factual. And that's another reason why I tried to be as true to the story as possible -- because I didn't want it to be used by either side. I didn't want it to be politicized internationally or domestically in a partisan way. I just wanted to tell a story that was about the facts as I understood them."

Who the fark is he kidding?
Christ, he made three factual errors in just the opening voice over.


 
2013-02-26 01:13:36 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.


I thought the same thing when I was watching it. A good director would've been able to make the airport scene tense without ginning up the story to make it into something it wasn't.
 
2013-02-26 01:39:34 PM

Cubicle Jockey: downtownkid: I'd say the most egregious error of all is the Canuck twat who does not grasp the concept of "based on true events".

And yet Mr. Affleck kept going around and saying statements such as:

"You know, it was such a great story. For one thing, it's a thriller. It's actually comedy with the Hollywood satire. It's a complicated CIA movie, it's a political movie. And it's all true."
or
"This movie is about this story that took place, and it's true, and I go to pains to contextualize it and to try to be even-handed in a way that just means we're taking a cold, hard look at the facts."
or
"I tried to make a movie that is absolutely just factual. And that's another reason why I tried to be as true to the story as possible -- because I didn't want it to be used by either side. I didn't want it to be politicized internationally or domestically in a partisan way. I just wanted to tell a story that was about the facts as I understood them."

Who the fark is he kidding?
Christ, he made three factual errors in just the opening voice over.


Meh. The big story points were true, and the rest was condensed or altered for story reasons. A few out of context quotes notwithstanding, was there or was there not a title card in the movie itself making it clear that it was only based on a true story?
 
2013-02-26 01:43:35 PM

make me some tea: Tyrone Slothrop: Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.

I thought the same thing when I was watching it. A good director would've been able to make the airport scene tense without ginning up the story to make it into something it wasn't.


Let's see,on one hand we have some schmuck on Fark calling him a bad director. On the other we have a film that won the Oscar for best picture, DGA award for Best Director, BAFTA for best picture and direction, Golden Globe for Best picture and director, Cesar for best foreign film and Producers Guild for best Picture.
 
rka
2013-02-26 02:05:56 PM

Sinister 161: /probably against The British considering how much you've lied about us.
//and made us your bad guys.


The poor, poor British. Won't someone think of the former imperial power that didn't meet a country they didn't want to exploit?
 
2013-02-26 02:11:39 PM

downtownkid: make me some tea: Tyrone Slothrop: Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.

I thought the same thing when I was watching it. A good director would've been able to make the airport scene tense without ginning up the story to make it into something it wasn't.

Let's see,on one hand we have some schmuck on Fark calling him a bad director. On the other we have a film that won the Oscar for best picture, DGA award for Best Director, BAFTA for best picture and direction, Golden Globe for Best picture and director, Cesar for best foreign film and Producers Guild for best Picture.


Everyone's a critic!

/I did think it was a good movie overall, but during that part I was rolling my eyes
 
2013-02-26 02:17:08 PM

rka: Sinister 161: /probably against The British considering how much you've lied about us.
//and made us your bad guys.

The poor, poor British. Won't someone think of the former imperial power that didn't meet a country they didn't want to exploit?


At least we didn't lie about it.
 
2013-02-26 02:35:53 PM

downtownkid: make me some tea: Tyrone Slothrop: Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.

I thought the same thing when I was watching it. A good director would've been able to make the airport scene tense without ginning up the story to make it into something it wasn't.

Let's see,on one hand we have some schmuck on Fark calling him a bad director. On the other we have a film that won the Oscar for best picture, DGA award for Best Director, BAFTA for best picture and direction, Golden Globe for Best picture and director, Cesar for best foreign film and Producers Guild for best Picture.


As a Canadian, I don't care if it's accurate or not - we had our version of events played on TV in 1981 (see the link in my previous response - I remember watching that movie!).

The question is: Is it a good movie? Seems like many in the industry think it is.
 
2013-02-26 02:40:20 PM

ryarger: Dude, if there was anyone who didn't get that they need to hand in their "movie-going public" membership card immediately and retreat back to their cave for another thousand years.


I bet you fully a third to one half of farkers haven't seen that movie.
 
2013-02-26 02:55:58 PM
Not every movie based on or inspired by true people and events is a documentary. Jesus. They weren't "errors." They were fictional elements.
 
2013-02-26 03:00:00 PM
What I wonder is if any rogue nation would ever trust Canadians if they DIDN'T fudge on the facts with this movie.

/Does that make sense?
 
2013-02-26 03:09:59 PM

make me some tea: downtownkid: make me some tea: Tyrone Slothrop: Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.

I thought the same thing when I was watching it. A good director would've been able to make the airport scene tense without ginning up the story to make it into something it wasn't.

Let's see,on one hand we have some schmuck on Fark calling him a bad director. On the other we have a film that won the Oscar for best picture, DGA award for Best Director, BAFTA for best picture and direction, Golden Globe for Best picture and director, Cesar for best foreign film and Producers Guild for best Picture.

Everyone's a critic!

/I did think it was a good movie overall, but during that part I was rolling my eyes


...and I'll grant that he pushed it pretty far.  I think that after "The Town" and "Argo" it looks like Affleck is growing into a pretty talented director, though.
 
2013-02-26 04:11:21 PM
Wait. Didn't the movie include the Americans getting passports from the Canadian ambassador?
 
2013-02-26 04:48:12 PM
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2013-02-26 04:50:54 PM
Argo was a bore ergo i fell asleep.


/seriously put me to sleep like a lullaby.
 
2013-02-26 05:07:41 PM
Hey, no spoiler alerts?  Jeez, Farkers.  Please - just please, don't reveal the outcome of "Lincoln" until the rest of us have seen it.  Ok?

/Argo was farkin' awesome
 
2013-02-26 06:06:07 PM

mysticcat: Oh Canada!
Ben Affleck made you mad
True patriots say, "That Argo movie's bad!"
With angry hearts your bile does rise
The True North is grumpy
The rest of us
Say, "Canada, It's just a dang movie."
We're thankful for your help in '80
But Canada, it's just a dang movie
But Canada, it's just a dang movie


Next Canadian comedy: George Washington, Gay Retard.
Watch George pull out his wooden teeth for hot, count to potato action!

It's just a movie!
 
2013-02-26 08:18:14 PM
Marshmallow Jones:

You guys need to seriously work on your inferiroity complex.  It's bad.

Inferiority complex? We aren't the ones who need our entertainment industry to lie to us in order to feel good about ourselves.

I mean, we smuggled in our last sixteen Yeti to carry the plane to Europe in case of engine failure. Those poor Yeti. Never did hear from them again.
 
2013-02-26 09:33:22 PM
Shut up Canada, we get it, you want the one time you helped the US to be all yours when in reality it was a joint venture, a lot was fabricated as in any hollywood recreation.......Psssst....Did you guys know a giant marshmallow man didnt attack NYC? farking lying ghostbusters.........
 
2013-02-26 09:38:39 PM

texdent: The ruined Hollywood sign?


Yes, the sign had been refurbished at that point, but I really felt it set the scene as late 70s Hollywood quite effectively.
 
2013-02-26 09:48:10 PM

DrZiffle: Wait. Didn't the movie include the Americans getting passports from the Canadian ambassador?


Sure, but they were blank in the film with the CIA guy doing all the visa forging in his hotel room. In reality the passports were shipped from Ottawa to Iran in the diplomatic pouch full of all the visa required for everybody's backstories to work out.
 
2013-02-27 12:04:22 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Argo was mostly good, but the last 10-15 minutes (everything at the airport) turned into a coincidence crap-fest.


The narrowly avoided last minute dangers at the last moment were predictable enough, but the storytelling cliches started a couple scenes before. The plan suddenly gets canceled, the main character gets drunk alone in a hotel room, then decides to defy his orders and become a hero by acting impulsive. It's entertaining, but not all that realistic.
 
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