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2013-02-26 02:38:02 PM

MrEricSir: Good! My plan to create the first Amish online dating site is one step closer to fruition.


I few years ago I heard a story about how Amish communities were looking for "fresh genetic material" from outsiders due to the issues they were having with communities being so...close.
 
2013-02-26 02:38:41 PM

Burr: Mikey1969: That actually makes sense. It might also explain how you can buy that "hand-crafted Amish fireplace" which is really just an electric fireplace with a nice wooden frame. :-)

Lehmans Non-Electric Amish Goods

If, for some odd reason, you are ever around north central-ish Ohio (a little to the east actually) this is a pretty neat place to stop.

Also recommended is Heines Cheese Chalet... its basically like when you go to the supermarket and they have a free sample of cheese.... X 100.

Resist the urge to sample all the cheese, your colon will thank you by not bricking up.

/Also, a bakery is across the road and a winery (Breitenbachs) is not too far away.  So, you can have a cheese, bread, and wine day courtesy of the Amish.


We have to live fairly close to each other. I've been to all of those places several times. Breitenbach wine is pretty tasty.

/Canton
 
2013-02-26 02:51:19 PM

jim-jim: Burr: Mikey1969: That actually makes sense. It might also explain how you can buy that "hand-crafted Amish fireplace" which is really just an electric fireplace with a nice wooden frame. :-)

Lehmans Non-Electric Amish Goods

If, for some odd reason, you are ever around north central-ish Ohio (a little to the east actually) this is a pretty neat place to stop.

Also recommended is Heines Cheese Chalet... its basically like when you go to the supermarket and they have a free sample of cheese.... X 100.

Resist the urge to sample all the cheese, your colon will thank you by not bricking up.

/Also, a bakery is across the road and a winery (Breitenbachs) is not too far away.  So, you can have a cheese, bread, and wine day courtesy of the Amish.

We have to live fairly close to each other. I've been to all of those places several times. Breitenbach wine is pretty tasty.

/Canton


I live in southeast Ohio (Cambridge), but yeah I get up that way sometimes.  I might get to those places once a year, but thankfully Breitenbach is sold around here.  Of course, Dutch Valley Breakfast Buffet is a must whenever I am out that way.
 
2013-02-26 02:55:39 PM

Mikey1969: That would be cool if I ever made it up that way. Love the cheese shop thing, we have a local grocery store that actually has a cheesemonger, yum!!


They also have an area where you can see them making the cheese.  Word of advice, if you go expecting to sample all the cheese you are setting yourself up for failure (trust me, you don't want to, unless you take some laxative or something) .
 
2013-02-26 03:14:52 PM
Is it something like this?
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-02-26 03:16:51 PM
I approve of this headline.
 
2013-02-26 03:29:07 PM
static1.businessinsider.com

If you come to visit, you'll be bored to tears.
We haven't even paid the phone bill in 300 years.
But we ain't really quaint, so please, don't point and stare.
We're just technologically impaired.
 
2013-02-26 03:31:39 PM

Latinwolf: Is it something like this?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]


No, that's way too colorful. It's more like this:

images.chinahighlights.com
 
2013-02-26 03:33:47 PM
I love the advertisement bullet points.

No Music!
No Internet!
No Video!
No Games!

/...and now I know where my boss finds our workstations.
 
2013-02-26 03:59:42 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]


Came here for Babbage.  Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-26 04:35:11 PM

CheatCommando: Mad_Radhu: Mikey1969: Hey dipshiats, how do you compress the air? Happy thoughts? Yes there are manual air compressors, but I'd bet they aren't enough to power a shop full of tools all day.

They buy compressed air cylinders?

To be honest, I think they use windmills and watermills to drive the compressors. Some use diesel or even steam engines, as they had adopted belt driven tools years ago and it is fairly easy to belt drive a compressor and then feed the air to the tools.


This.  Even a small stream is more than capable of charging up a moderately sized compressed air tank with a good water wheel attached to it.  Larger water wheels, windmills, small engines, even hooking the horse to a wheel.  Lots of ways that are perfectly viable.

And don't kid yourself: compressed air tech has been around for more than 100 years, ever since people saw the power of steam and thought "you know what would be great? If having a burst pipe DIDN'T boil me alive and cut through my flesh like the sharpest blade ever."
 
2013-02-26 04:44:06 PM

yukichigai: CheatCommando: Mad_Radhu: Mikey1969: Hey dipshiats, how do you compress the air? Happy thoughts? Yes there are manual air compressors, but I'd bet they aren't enough to power a shop full of tools all day.

They buy compressed air cylinders?

To be honest, I think they use windmills and watermills to drive the compressors. Some use diesel or even steam engines, as they had adopted belt driven tools years ago and it is fairly easy to belt drive a compressor and then feed the air to the tools.

This.  Even a small stream is more than capable of charging up a moderately sized compressed air tank with a good water wheel attached to it.  Larger water wheels, windmills, small engines, even hooking the horse to a wheel.  Lots of ways that are perfectly viable.

And don't kid yourself: compressed air tech has been around for more than 100 years, ever since people saw the power of steam and thought "you know what would be great? If having a burst pipe DIDN'T boil me alive and cut through my flesh like the sharpest blade ever."


Ya. Old school tech was all belt driven via a single source. It works, though you lose some in the belts and transmissions and so on, and it's less efficient than pure electric, but it's simple nearly bullet proof tech, can be powered by almost anything and hooked to a shockingly wide variety of devices, etc.
 
2013-02-26 04:49:40 PM

discordium: Burr: Burr: Mikey1969: Hey dipshiats, how do you compress the air? Happy thoughts? Yes there are manual air compressors, but I'd bet they aren't enough to power a shop full of tools all day.

They are allowed to use hydraulics...

And, under certain circumstances, they are allowed to use gas generators as well.

I am really curious, too.  How is it OK to power an air compressor or hydraulics, but not power the saw?  Are there Amish rules on direct use of power?  Anyone help?




Always a loophole.


God isn't very clever.
 
2013-02-26 04:52:02 PM

Harridan: Sometimes there's just generator because being connected to the grid is forcing you to be a part of the outside world. Not that have to buy diesel for your generator doesn't connect you to the world either, but some see it as a lesser evil.


I have seen a couple of Amish Farms in Indiana with wind turbines for power, as you mentioned it is feeding the barn not the house, but that seems to be allowed since nature is the power source, just like the electric lights on their buggies powered by batteries recharged by solar cells.
 
2013-02-26 04:57:43 PM
It makes me sad that "No Music!" is a selling feature.
 
2013-02-26 05:14:34 PM
The Amish are pretty good bowlers also.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-26 05:18:21 PM

Mikey1969: Mad_Radhu: Mikey1969: Hey dipshiats, how do you compress the air? Happy thoughts? Yes there are manual air compressors, but I'd bet they aren't enough to power a shop full of tools all day.

They buy compressed air cylinders?

Which are filled by electricity, and don't store THAT much air. That would be a horribly inefficient way of doing things financially.

CheatCommando: To be honest, I think they use windmills and watermills to drive the compressors. Some use diesel or even steam engines, as they had adopted belt driven tools years ago and it is fairly easy to belt drive a compressor and then feed the air to the tools.

That's more plausible, but those engines need electricity in some form to run, unles they crank start them. As for the windmills and water wheels, I don't see those building up enough compression to run the tools for very long, but it's possible.

Burr: And, under certain circumstances, they are allowed to use gas generators as well.

Which produce electricity, and would just cut out the middle man and remove the need for the air powered tools anyway. This is what will keep me up at nights now, everything leads to a new paradox, IMHO.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_mill

I know some of the Mennonites living near Hestand, KY who have a "Horse Mill" used to drive several machines such as band saws, air compressors, Feed grinders, Flour mills, and grinding wheels. The big draft horses are not always able to get regular exercise on some of the farms, so they hitch them to the "Horse Mill" where they walk for an hour powering the different machines that the guys there use. Using this they can run anything requiring a PTO drive. So no, electricity is not required for this process. They also use a similar technology to process Sorghum Cane into a syrup which gets boiled down into molasses.
 
2013-02-26 05:34:19 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]


Came for this, see it was  covered. Carry on.
 
2013-02-26 09:22:05 PM

Happy Hours: The Amish people really impress me.

Remember a few years ago when that psycho attacked and killed some kids in one of their schools? IIRC the cops killed him, but the Amish weren't screaming for vengeance. They were sad, but very calm and even forgiving. That may sound a bit crazy but it's actually very sane.

If I'm ever really down on my luck and become homeless I'm going to find an Amish community. I have no doubt that they'd offer me a place to sleep and some food to eat. It might not be luxurious, but it would be better than sleeping on the street. They'd probably expect me to do some chores, but that's totally fair.

Maybe I'm wrong. I know they don't really like outsiders, but if I were willing to make an effort, I think they'd help.

I already got a good beard going. My Braun razor just died.

They'd probably expect me to give up Fark though.

I think I'd survive without Fark.


IIRC, some of the Amish actually went with the widow of the killer to his funeral and donated money to his family.  I know I couldnt do that.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14900930
 
2013-02-26 09:37:51 PM

Happy Hours: They'd probably expect me to give up Fark though.

I think I'd survive without Fark.


Sure, if you call THAT surviving...
 
2013-02-26 09:53:27 PM
I've been watching the show Banshee on Cinemax, so I'm something of an expert on the Amish.  One thing I've noticed, there are a lot of murderers and whores among them.
 
2013-02-27 01:24:41 AM
That said, however, the description looks like a great way to off-load outdated technology. No Internet? No sound? Tiny amounts of memory/storage space? No problem!
 
2013-02-27 03:19:30 AM
Hey, fark you Amish people!

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-27 07:17:06 AM

Happy Hours: Burr: Happy Hours: I already got a good beard going. My Braun razor just died.

Are you married?  Marriage is when the men start growing the beard.

I'm not...I'm a widower. Yeah that's the ticket. Should probably get me some sympathy too.

I had 5 kids, but they were all killed in a horrible accident.

That should even get me more sympathy

/actually single with no kids

because they are dead and so is the wife

dat right?
 
2013-02-27 07:25:06 AM
a buddy of mine owns a business driving the amish around as a taxi service... Apparently some decent money, but he never gets more than a couple hours of sleep because there is such a high demand for the service
 
2013-03-01 11:48:22 PM

kroonermanblack: yukichigai: CheatCommando: Mad_Radhu: Mikey1969: Hey dipshiats, how do you compress the air? Happy thoughts? Yes there are manual air compressors, but I'd bet they aren't enough to power a shop full of tools all day.

They buy compressed air cylinders?

To be honest, I think they use windmills and watermills to drive the compressors. Some use diesel or even steam engines, as they had adopted belt driven tools years ago and it is fairly easy to belt drive a compressor and then feed the air to the tools.

This.  Even a small stream is more than capable of charging up a moderately sized compressed air tank with a good water wheel attached to it.  Larger water wheels, windmills, small engines, even hooking the horse to a wheel.  Lots of ways that are perfectly viable.

And don't kid yourself: compressed air tech has been around for more than 100 years, ever since people saw the power of steam and thought "you know what would be great? If having a burst pipe DIDN'T boil me alive and cut through my flesh like the sharpest blade ever."

Ya. Old school tech was all belt driven via a single source. It works, though you lose some in the belts and transmissions and so on, and it's less efficient than pure electric, but it's simple nearly bullet proof tech, can be powered by almost anything and hooked to a shockingly wide variety of devices, etc.


Best place to see some old Belt-drive tech would be the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn.  They have a flywheel that has to be thirty feet in diameter, and I dont want to imagine how many tons.
 
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