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(Yahoo)   High school teacher: " I am supposed to teach you that we are not to call these people terrorists anymore, but freedom fighters." Difficulty: Texas   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 165
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2013-02-26 07:52:07 AM
The Boston Tea Party WAS terrorism.  Freedom Fighters = The guys that win.  Terrorists = The guys the freedom fighters don't want to win.
 
2013-02-26 08:25:43 AM
Gee, next thing you know, they'll be telling Canadian high school teachers not to refer to all Americans as "rednecks".

I do not necessarily agree with this...
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-26 08:27:36 AM
An unnamed student informed  WND

At first I thought this was a real story.
 
2013-02-26 08:59:36 AM
This has to be the greatest troll I've seen today. Unnamed student? Yeah, that sounds legit.

/Please let Fox News pick this up, please let Fox News pick this up, please let Fox News pick this up
 
2013-02-26 09:05:31 AM

Smokey the Bare: This has to be the greatest troll I've seen today. Unnamed student? Yeah, that sounds legit.

/Please let Fox News pick this up, please let Fox News pick this up, please let Fox News pick this up


FTA:

State Sen. Dan Patrick, chairman of the Texas state senate's education committee, Fox News that he found the photograph of the burqa-clad female students disturbing.

Patience.
 
2013-02-26 09:07:33 AM
It's amazing how I managed to learn about world history and cultures without value judgement and indoctrination.  I guess my teachers were lazy.

Thanks, inferior American school system!
 
2013-02-26 09:17:00 AM
Damn--now World Nut Daily stories are getting in as Yahoo? You fargin' iceholes.
 
2013-02-26 09:21:30 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion that all of the adults in the story (and possibly some kids too) need to be smacked around a bit just on general principle. And that includes the curriculum builders. Burqas are illegal in a good number of predominantly Muslim countries and having kids wear them is a completely idiotic idea--its not representative at all of the dominant trends in gendered clothing among more than a billion people.
 
2013-02-26 09:21:43 AM
One man's patriot
 
2013-02-26 09:24:58 AM
WND via Daliy Caller via Yahoo News. It's like news laundering.
 
2013-02-26 09:25:06 AM
Yahoo earns its name. Every Day.
- Dean Swift
 
2013-02-26 09:26:51 AM

gadian: The Boston Tea Party WAS terrorism.  Freedom Fighters = The guys that win.  Terrorists = The guys the freedom fighters don't want to win.


Came here to say this. Although, I'd change it more to "Terrorists=local people we hate. Freedom Fighters=local people we like"
 
2013-02-26 09:29:03 AM

gopher321: Gee, next thing you know, they'll be telling Canadian high school teachers not to refer to all Americans as "rednecks".


When did "arseholes" fall oot of favour?
 
2013-02-26 09:29:12 AM
Uh... pretty much every damned thing mentioned in that article as "hilariously biased" is essentially accurate.

Yet again facts have a liberal bias. F*ck I hate the willfully ignorant.
 
2013-02-26 09:30:03 AM
In that case, John Wilkes Booth was just a freedom fighter, he was fighting for the freedom to practice slavery.
 
2013-02-26 09:30:30 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

www.lsjunction.com

Texas, more than any of the rest of you, has a history that includes terrorists and freedom fighters. Freedom fighters who wanted to be able to keep slaves.
 
2013-02-26 09:30:45 AM
God forbid that Texas actually take a few steps toward educating their people to the extent that they can objectively look at beliefs close to their heart and question them.
 
2013-02-26 09:31:47 AM

gadian: The Boston Tea Party WAS terrorism.  Freedom Fighters = The guys that win.  Terrorists = The guys the freedom fighters don't want to win.


Boston tea party: Throwing tea into a harbor.
Your "Freedom fighters": Killing innocent woman and children by indiscriminately detonating explosives in high populated areas.

Yes, they are exactly the same.
 
2013-02-26 09:31:49 AM

gadian: The Boston Tea Party WAS terrorism.  Freedom Fighters = The guys that win.  Terrorists = The guys the freedom fighters don't want to win.


Aaaand we're done here.

+1
 
2013-02-26 09:32:21 AM
 
2013-02-26 09:32:44 AM

Crewmannumber6: One man's patriot


"We hang together"
 
2013-02-26 09:33:18 AM
A story about an unnamed student that informed WND. . .

Trolling achieved.

One thing interesting FTA:

CSCOPE labels fascism and Nazism as "conservative," despite the fact that both ideologies prescribe that the state should control everything and own all resources.

Uh, fascism/Nazism is conservative, extremely so, that's the whole point.  Nowhere in Fascism is the idea that the state should own all resources.  Last I checked, Nazi Germany had LOTS of private companies getting very rich off of the 3rd Reich.  Private ownership of resources is communism, and violent anti-communism is part of the whole point of Fascism.

Volkswagen started there, the VW Beetle was created originally to be sold there.  Bayer?  The Asprin people?  Yeah, they used concentration camp slave labor. . .and produced the Zyklon B poison gas for the gas chambers through subsidiaries.  Messerschmit?  Focke-Wulf?  Those names that got associated with the Luftwaffe?  Private for-profit companies (in both cases, these two lasted into the 1960's)  That was kind of the whole point of Schindler's List, wasn't it?  A Nazi war profiteer who owned and ran an ammo factory having a change of heart?

Total ignorance of history and political ideologies and creating strawmen versions of them to attack?

Just hammers in the political hit-piece nature of this right-wing anti-leftist "the liberals are trying to brainwash your kids" propaganda.
 
2013-02-26 09:33:40 AM

Big Man On Campus: In that case, John Wilkes Booth was just a freedom fighter, he was fighting for the freedom to practice slavery.


You are correct, except his side lost, thus he was a terrorist.
 
2013-02-26 09:34:09 AM

Big Man On Campus: In that case, John Wilkes Booth was just a freedom fighter, he was fighting for the freedom to practice slavery.


Wasn't he the first actor to really get inside Lincoln's head?
 
2013-02-26 09:34:51 AM
the small town of Lumberton
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-26 09:35:09 AM
Hmm- the Reagan Doctrine revolved around supporting the Mujuhideen freedom fighters in Afganistan.

 sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

How dare they dispute the great Reagan!
 
2013-02-26 09:35:29 AM
You don't have to like or approve of it, but it never hurts to learn things.
 
2013-02-26 09:35:40 AM

gadian: The Boston Tea Party WAS terrorism.  Freedom Fighters = The guys that win.  Terrorists = The guys the freedom fighters don't want to win.


The truth of the thing, as usual, is complicated.
 
2013-02-26 09:36:09 AM

Point02GPA: Big Man On Campus: In that case, John Wilkes Booth was just a freedom fighter, he was fighting for the freedom to practice slavery.

Wasn't he the first actor to really get inside Lincoln's head?


i.qkme.me
 
2013-02-26 09:37:49 AM
Photos are now surfacing of the incident:

i758.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-26 09:39:23 AM
I always thought history and social studies classes were biased anyway.  They have for the longest time had a pro-white people of European decent slant to them.  Columbus discovered America, manifest destiny in a positive light, indigineous cultures portrayed as savages on every inhabited continent, and on and on and on.  Maybe it's about time the curriculum makers switched it up.
 
2013-02-26 09:40:35 AM

wildcardjack: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x310]

[www.lsjunction.com image 500x340]

Texas, more than any of the rest of you, has a history that includes terrorists and freedom fighters. Freedom fighters who wanted to be able to keep slaves.


Texas really wasn't that much of a slave state and how in the hell does the Alamo or San Jacinto even remotely resemble terrorism. It was farking war.

That said, when I see someone in a burqa I think WTF!?!?!!?!

I saw one recently, but last July saw someone walking across a parking lot i a full burqa and my first thought was WTF? It's not Halloween. Yep, for a split second I thought that. Then I thought, how masochistic do you have to be to dress in black from head to toe and walk across a black asphalt parking lot in the summer when it's 100 degrees outside?

Oh, they're just Muslim - and not a normal Muslim either. The people who wear burqas (or expect their wives to wear them) are a special kind of Muslim. They are the crazy ones. They are the ones who breed terrorists. They are the ones we should not allow into our country.

I don't hate all Muslims, but the burqa wearing kind? Fark them.

I hate the Pope too, so fark off. I'm an equal opportunity hater.
 
2013-02-26 09:40:36 AM
While the Boston Tea Party  was soundly criticized for its anarchistic means (and  Ben Franklin et al pooled money to repay the East India Company and apologize), the moral equivalency to suicide bombers is a bit crass.
 
2013-02-26 09:41:24 AM

gadian: The Boston Tea Party WAS terrorism.  Freedom Fighters = The guys that win.  Terrorists = The guys the freedom fighters don't want to win.


Freedom Fighters= Guts who are fighting for a cause you believe in. Terrorists= Guys fighting for a cause you oppose.

Why this guy thinks Texas was a good place to call Muslims Freedom Fighters= Total mystery
 
2013-02-26 09:41:45 AM

Smokey the Bare: This has to be the greatest troll I've seen today. Unnamed student? Yeah, that sounds legit.


Not a troll. CIA is just up to its old tricks.
 
2013-02-26 09:43:46 AM
Here's the list of people to complain to, should you feel the need to do so.
 
2013-02-26 09:44:16 AM

vpb: An unnamed student informed  WND

At first I thought this was a real story.


Ha, yeah.  I liked this:

A student in the class told WND that the burqa-related lesson focused mainly on the lives of women in Muslim countries. The enveloping outer face and body covering was treated more or less as a fashion accessory.
Apparently, no mention was made of the fact that women in Saudi Arabia and Iran must wear the garment under threat of arrest and criminal punishment.

Let's Google "Women In Iran"\

www.irantravelingcenter.com
 Looks like a burqa to me.


/they have to wear the headscarf and loose fitting tops, yeah
//yes, *this* is what I'm gonna nitpick about the stupid link I actually clicked on
 
2013-02-26 09:44:44 AM
Just to pour some fuel on the flame war that is probably not too far away: just look at what democracy has done for women. Just about all countries where people have been "liberated" from their local dictator in the past decade have seen a huge decrease in women's rights. Democracy, sometimes it really is the problem.
 
2013-02-26 09:44:47 AM
Texas sucks, and you should never come here it's so bad.
 
2013-02-26 09:45:51 AM
You have to admire the boldness of WND in really going for it with this one.  It's almost like a test to see if they can just print up anything with a "source" and see how much it's believed.

This falls into the genre of the conservative outrage story.  These can be seen in an exaggerated manner with the Daily Mail's recurring welfare queen stories, but usually in the illegitimate sense with chain emails about Marines being refused service or an incident where Michelle Obama did something uppity.

You're supposed to read the story, be outraged about how bad things are today, and yearn for a yesteryear when such outrages did not occur.  The older people get the more this type of story appeals to them.  Talk radio is just a stream of these.  There's a huge market for outrage.
 
2013-02-26 09:46:48 AM

Silverstaff: A story about an unnamed student that informed WND. . .

Trolling achieved.

One thing interesting FTA:

CSCOPE labels fascism and Nazism as "conservative," despite the fact that both ideologies prescribe that the state should control everything and own all resources.

Uh, fascism/Nazism is conservative, extremely so, that's the whole point.  Nowhere in Fascism is the idea that the state should own all resources.  Last I checked, Nazi Germany had LOTS of private companies getting very rich off of the 3rd Reich.  Private ownership of resources is communism, and violent anti-communism is part of the whole point of Fascism.

Volkswagen started there, the VW Beetle was created originally to be sold there.  Bayer?  The Asprin people?  Yeah, they used concentration camp slave labor. . .and produced the Zyklon B poison gas for the gas chambers through subsidiaries.  Messerschmit?  Focke-Wulf?  Those names that got associated with the Luftwaffe?  Private for-profit companies (in both cases, these two lasted into the 1960's)  That was kind of the whole point of Schindler's List, wasn't it?  A Nazi war profiteer who owned and ran an ammo factory having a change of heart?

Total ignorance of history and political ideologies and creating strawmen versions of them to attack?

Just hammers in the political hit-piece nature of this right-wing anti-leftist "the liberals are trying to brainwash your kids" propaganda.


Shiat, I went through the public school system in Texas and they made it pretty clear the differences between Fascism and Communism. I think I had one American History Teacher who was a die-hard conservative that purposely fudged the line between the two to fit her world view (Along with many, many other things) but I called her out on it and she pretty much dropped it.

CSB: I would get into arguments with her daily, and she was always shocked that a student would even think to argue with her "truth". Constantly called her out on shiat about the reasons for going to war in Iraq, 9/11, the fact that Clinton tried going after Osama but the Republicans laughed at him and pulled the plug on it, welfare, you name it. I swear she got her info from FWD:FWD:FWD: and she had no problem trying to shove it down her students throats. One day she called me un-American. So I brought a copy of my enlistment papers to her class. Not a peep out of her after that.

/I hate people like her.
//Rest of my teachers were fine, she was the only special one.
 
2013-02-26 09:46:56 AM

Farce-Side: I always thought history and social studies classes were biased anyway.  They have for the longest time had a pro-white people of European decent slant to them.  Columbus discovered America, manifest destiny in a positive light, indigineous cultures portrayed as savages on every inhabited continent, and on and on and on.  Maybe it's about time the curriculum makers switched it up.


upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-26 09:47:33 AM
An unnamed student informed WND

i737.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-26 09:48:47 AM

nubzers: One day she called me un-American. So I brought a copy of my enlistment papers to her class. Not a peep out of her after that.


Not saying enlisting makes you more American than anyone else, however, in this particular case toward that particular type of person...

www.muzakblog.com
 
2013-02-26 09:48:54 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Texas sucks, and you should never come here it's so bad.


That's not really true.  It's only East Texas that sucks.  The source of the sucking is Beaumont.
 
2013-02-26 09:48:56 AM

Diogenes: It's amazing how I managed to learn about world history and cultures without value judgement and indoctrination.  I guess my teachers were lazy.

Thanks, inferior American school system!


Lucky you.  I took a 'world religion' class senior year in high school taught by a fundamentalist, in public school even.  His attempt to indoctrinate us backfired.  His failure to hide his disdain for other religions turned me on to actually investigate, do research and try to understand other peoples' point of view.

csb
Started to rewatch B5 since I haven't seen it since its original run and between season reruns.  I completely forgot about 'Parliament of Dreams' where each race was to show their dominate religion.  The kicker at the end trying to show Earth's strength with many belief systems and how we seem to somewhat be tolerant to one another about it made me smile.
/csb

/yeah, yeah, indoctrinated into Catholicism since birth, still have some beliefs, turned 'non-denominational' and cares less what someone else believes.
//pain in the arse to the hard core believers/fundamentalists/homophobes in our men's group every week.  It is nice [smug] to be a light in their little echo chamber
 
2013-02-26 09:50:51 AM

Silverstaff: A story about an unnamed student that informed WND. . .

Trolling achieved.

One thing interesting FTA:

CSCOPE labels fascism and Nazism as "conservative," despite the fact that both ideologies prescribe that the state should control everything and own all resources.

Uh, fascism/Nazism is conservative, extremely so, that's the whole point.  Nowhere in Fascism is the idea that the state should own all resources.  Last I checked, Nazi Germany had LOTS of private companies getting very rich off of the 3rd Reich.  Private ownership of resources is communism, and violent anti-communism is part of the whole point of Fascism.

Volkswagen started there, the VW Beetle was created originally to be sold there.  Bayer?  The Asprin people?  Yeah, they used concentration camp slave labor. . .and produced the Zyklon B poison gas for the gas chambers through subsidiaries.  Messerschmit?  Focke-Wulf?  Those names that got associated with the Luftwaffe?  Private for-profit companies (in both cases, these two lasted into the 1960's)  That was kind of the whole point of Schindler's List, wasn't it?  A Nazi war profiteer who owned and ran an ammo factory having a change of heart?

Total ignorance of history and political ideologies and creating strawmen versions of them to attack?

Just hammers in the political hit-piece nature of this right-wing anti-leftist "the liberals are trying to brainwash your kids" propaganda.


The historical revision casting fascism and Nazis as leftists is one of the more disturbing facets of modern day American conservatives.
 
2013-02-26 09:51:05 AM
userserve-ak.last.fm
Whose truth is your truth?
 
2013-02-26 09:51:17 AM
www.robeson.k12.nc.us
 
2013-02-26 09:51:59 AM

SomeoneDumb: You don't have to like or approve of it, but it never hurts to learn things.


Sure, but if the article is to be believed the lesson was rather slanted and agenda driven. The example given is that they were teaching that the burqa was a fashion choice and omitting that women in many of the countries they are discussing are required to wear them by law under threat of a stoning death.

Its the modern equivalent of when whitewashed history lessons used to teach that Chris Columbus landed on Plymouth Rock and offered turkey and all the fixings to make peace with the savages and called it Thanksgiving.
 
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