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2013-02-26 10:03:32 AM  
Where are all the pads and helmets? Where's the dreamy quarterback? This is wrong, all wrong!
 
2013-02-26 10:09:06 AM  
Fantastic.
 
2013-02-26 10:17:09 AM  
NFL shakes head in disbelief: "Hey, that guy was so down..."
 
2013-02-26 10:43:35 AM  
I watched Rugby 7's this weekend, so much better to watch than football, baseball or basketball.
 
2013-02-26 10:44:38 AM  
 
2013-02-26 10:49:07 AM  
The car rugby on Top Gear was more my style but that was pretty entertaining....
 
2013-02-26 10:49:19 AM  
my boys have been playing for the last 5 years and I still don't understand all the rules.

One thing I do understand, though, is the pints of Guiness and the Irish breakfast routine while watching the 6 Nations at a local Irish pub. The owner mutes "God Save The Queen" during the anthems.
 
2013-02-26 10:56:18 AM  
Just because it's non-stop, doesn't mean it's interesting.

I just don't get it, just seems too random.

The NFL could use a lot of help speeding things along, however.
 
2013-02-26 10:58:16 AM  
Rugby and Australian Rules Football are both better than the NFL to me.  I really wish there was more coverage here in the states.

CSB that has nothing to do with this, but is still the best description of rugby I ever heard:

I first played rugby in a pick up game in Ireland, while on a trip in college.  I was out jogging one morning around Trinity College, when I saw a group of guys playing and stopped to watch.  One of the players saw me and asked me if I wanted to play.  To the best of my recollection, this is how the conversation went.

Guy with thick Irish accent: Hey you!  We're short one, want to play?
Me:  I've never played rugby in my life, I don't know the rules.
Guy: Oh, Rugby is the easiest farking game in the world.  If the bastard with the ball isn't on your team, you farking hit him.
Me: Ok

An hour and a half later, I barely made it to my group, with a black eye and a 30 second shower.  Had my prof pissed as all hell, since we nearly missed the bus to our tour.  Best day of the trip.
 
2013-02-26 11:12:13 AM  
I love sport, and those are some big fast dudes, but I just can't get excited watching it. However I don't like watching any other sport either.

So there's that.
 
2013-02-26 12:35:31 PM  

ColTomParker: my boys have been playing for the last 5 years and I still don't understand all the rules.


All the stuff about which side gets possession after a kick to touch and whatnot is pretty complicated, but explaining it to Americans is relatively simple:

Take (American) football.
Remove the whole idea of downs
Remove the idea that play stops when the ball carrier is tackled / add the idea that the ball is always live
Remove the forward pass
Remove downfield blocking
Add a wacky throw-in thing when the ball goes out of bounds.

Voila: rubgy (more or less)
 
2013-02-26 12:42:40 PM  

Uzzah: Add a wacky throw-in thing when the ball goes out of bounds.


One of the stupidest looking ways to restart a sport in the world.
 
2013-02-26 12:47:06 PM  

Uzzah: ColTomParker: my boys have been playing for the last 5 years and I still don't understand all the rules.

All the stuff about which side gets possession after a kick to touch and whatnot is pretty complicated, but explaining it to Americans is relatively simple:

Take (American) football.
Remove the whole idea of downs
Remove the idea that play stops when the ball carrier is tackled / add the idea that the ball is always live
Remove the forward pass
Remove downfield blocking
Add a wacky throw-in thing when the ball goes out of bounds.

Voila: rubgy (more or less)


You also forgot:

Remove all athletic black players and replace them with a team of full backs and tight ends.
 
2013-02-26 01:45:10 PM  
now woodcock!

/it just seems like rugby.  are the mods just greenlighting everything?
 
2013-02-26 01:52:10 PM  

unitednihilists: I love sport


Are you good at maths?
 
2013-02-26 04:25:35 PM  

Uzzah: ColTomParker: my boys have been playing for the last 5 years and I still don't understand all the rules.

All the stuff about which side gets possession after a kick to touch and whatnot is pretty complicated, but explaining it to Americans is relatively simple:

Take (American) football.
Remove the whole idea of downs
Remove the idea that play stops when the ball carrier is tackled / add the idea that the ball is always live
Remove the forward pass
Remove downfield blocking
Add a wacky throw-in thing when the ball goes out of bounds.

Voila: rubgy (more or less)


While I dislike the idea of getting rid of the forward pass this:

MugzyBrown:

replace them with a team of full backs and tight ends.

Sounds awesome
 
2013-02-26 09:24:25 PM  
I just noticed that one of the teams is sponsored by Gallagher.  Not the watermelon smashing comedian, but the company that makes electric fence.  Never thought I'd see that.
 
2013-02-26 10:30:20 PM  

MugzyBrown: Just because it's non-stop, doesn't mean it's interesting.

I just don't get it, just seems too random.

The NFL could use a lot of help speeding things along, however.


If you understand the concept of football it makes perfect sense.

Its like soccer, except entertaining and non-pansy.

MugzyBrown: Remove all athletic black players and replace them with a team of full backs and tight ends.


I saw some guys who were Georgia Southern players compete against one of the top rugby teams in the US(not a big deal I know) but after a little tutorial on the game they dominated the rugby team, I fully believe some of these guys who are fast but dont make it in the NFL could be huge rugby stars.
 
2013-02-27 04:07:23 AM  

MugzyBrown: You also forgot:

Remove all athletic black players and replace them with a team of full backs and tight ends.


I know that this is FARK and I should go full throttle on any assumption. But, instead of arguing with what I imagine you are saying, I'm going to ask...
What the smeg does that mean?
Is 'athletic black players' a euphemism with which I am unfamiliar, or do you actually believe that black people can't &/or don't play rugby? Or do you believe that rugby is not for the athletic? Or....
 
2013-02-27 06:54:59 AM  

steamingpile:  I fully believe some of these guys who are fast but dont make it in the NFL could be huge rugby stars.


You don't think that they try? There's some pretty decent money on offer, after all. Much better money than they could earn by going back home to Savannah or Little Rock to flip burgers.

The Daily Telegraph (Rupert Murdoch's Sydney mouthpiece) loves writing about how some former star of American college football is trying to forge a career in Rugby League. It's the easy go-to for lazy sports journalists during the off-season.

Every other year some NRL club signs some wannabe WR, CB or RB from the US. There's the inevitable article in the Telegraph about how they're sending him to some tiny feeder club in Lismore/Gosford/Other-Small-Town to learn the basics of the sport. "He's huge and fast and we have high hopes for him once he has learned the ropes."

And without exception they're never heard from again.

They simply don't have the stamina to play 80 minutes, let alone anything resembling passing ability. If they train to get the necessary stamina they lose the size and speed that made them a success in American football.

It's like asking a 100m sprinter to make it as a steeplechaser or pentathlete. It's a losing proposition from the word go. I actually feel a bit sorry for them.
 
2013-02-27 09:39:03 AM  

Trapper439: steamingpile:  I fully believe some of these guys who are fast but dont make it in the NFL could be huge rugby stars.

You don't think that they try? There's some pretty decent money on offer, after all. Much better money than they could earn by going back home to Savannah or Little Rock to flip burgers.

The Daily Telegraph (Rupert Murdoch's Sydney mouthpiece) loves writing about how some former star of American college football is trying to forge a career in Rugby League. It's the easy go-to for lazy sports journalists during the off-season.

Every other year some NRL club signs some wannabe WR, CB or RB from the US. There's the inevitable article in the Telegraph about how they're sending him to some tiny feeder club in Lismore/Gosford/Other-Small-Town to learn the basics of the sport. "He's huge and fast and we have high hopes for him once he has learned the ropes."

And without exception they're never heard from again.

They simply don't have the stamina to play 80 minutes, let alone anything resembling passing ability. If they train to get the necessary stamina they lose the size and speed that made them a success in American football.

It's like asking a 100m sprinter to make it as a steeplechaser or pentathlete. It's a losing proposition from the word go. I actually feel a bit sorry for them.


except in sevens...where that former 100m sprinter is taking the world by storm: carlin isles. that dude is a burner.
 
2013-02-27 07:45:56 PM  

A Fark Handle: Trapper439: steamingpile:  I fully believe some of these guys who are fast but dont make it in the NFL could be huge rugby stars.

You don't think that they try? There's some pretty decent money on offer, after all. Much better money than they could earn by going back home to Savannah or Little Rock to flip burgers.

The Daily Telegraph (Rupert Murdoch's Sydney mouthpiece) loves writing about how some former star of American college football is trying to forge a career in Rugby League. It's the easy go-to for lazy sports journalists during the off-season.

Every other year some NRL club signs some wannabe WR, CB or RB from the US. There's the inevitable article in the Telegraph about how they're sending him to some tiny feeder club in Lismore/Gosford/Other-Small-Town to learn the basics of the sport. "He's huge and fast and we have high hopes for him once he has learned the ropes."

And without exception they're never heard from again.

They simply don't have the stamina to play 80 minutes, let alone anything resembling passing ability. If they train to get the necessary stamina they lose the size and speed that made them a success in American football.

It's like asking a 100m sprinter to make it as a steeplechaser or pentathlete. It's a losing proposition from the word go. I actually feel a bit sorry for them.

except in sevens...where that former 100m sprinter is taking the world by storm: carlin isles. that dude is a burner.


And with luck will do bloody well. But he wasn't a huge slab of a man to begin with and 7s is a different game. With 7 minute halves, rather than 40 minute halves there is room for a sprinter to do a lot of damage on the scoreboard. There is still a need for endurance, a a 7s tournament will have players playing 3 or 4 games a day for 2 or 3 days.
Plus, with only 7 players on the pitch (which is a regulation rugby pitch) there is room for a sprinter to hit a gap and be gone. Try puting an NFL player out there and you are unlikely to see much success without (as
 
2013-02-27 07:48:13 PM  
where did the rest of my words go?

My post should have finished...


(As Trapper439 said) fundamental changes to the player's size, speed, stamina. Plus there is the whole learning to catch and pass thing./there was more than that, but I couldn't be arsed typing it out again
 
2013-02-27 10:20:36 PM  
It is interesting in top level rugby guys have huge issues holding size. However the average size of forward is around 260lbs. Guys in the front row will be closer 280lbs. However anymore weight than that makes the running very hard. Basically if you have a tall line backer build you are suited to most rugby positions.
 
2013-02-28 10:47:05 AM  
the only issue I see with Carlin Isles is that he hasn't really developed anything but outrunning the opposition. He seldom passes, mainly because nobody can keep up with him in support. We don't know if he can take a hit or tackle (I haven't really seen much of him other than his sprinting highlights). If he can do all those things, great, he's got a future. If not, he's Renaldo Nehemiah in rugby boots.
 
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