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2013-02-26 07:27:59 AM  
There is no way this game should hev even gone to OT, Khabibulin was a rock star.
 
2013-02-26 07:41:49 AM  
I wasn't able to watch last night's game until the third period, but hot damn, it was worth tuning in!

Sure, nothing lasts forever, but it's fun to see how the Hawks went from a tax writeoff under the old regime to being a contender. I know there are plenty of butthurt Wings fans who like to say "bandwagon" about the Hawks, but it's really more a case of fans who had been driven away coming back. Hockey's mindshare in Chicago just about vanished when the games disappeared from TV.

Dollar Bill had this mindset that putting the games on TV would mean lost ticket sales, but now that the games are televised we have sellout crowds every game. Imagine that.
 
2013-02-26 07:44:23 AM  
FTFA: Go ahead and give two more points to the streaking Chicago Blackhawks.

DON'T LOOK, ETHEL!

But it was too late - she'd seen their sticks.
 
2013-02-26 07:54:11 AM  
It's going to be so much fun watching them go down in flames in the first round of the playoffs.
 
2013-02-26 08:09:40 AM  

Dick Gozinya: It's going to be so much fun watching them go down in flames in the first round of the playoffs.


So much this. I was thinking about saying something like this to some "hockey-fan" friends of mine at work after I learned Chicago won again last night, but then I realized that since it has nothing to do with the Flyers, they wouldn't know anything about the Blackhawks' not-losing-in-regulation streak.
 
2013-02-26 08:13:35 AM  
They are using up all their luck now and won't have any left for the playoffs.

First, a bunch of freak injuries to marquee players. Then, an unforgiving series of bizarre games involving bad bounces will be their undoing.

Mark my words.
 
2013-02-26 08:27:15 AM  
If the Hawks get the President's Trophy, they're pretty much guaranteed to win the Cup, right?

Enjoy your first round exit, Horks.
 
2013-02-26 08:31:12 AM  
I really love all the butthurt fans predicting an early playoff exit.

If the Hawks won it all no one will remember this nitwits but of course if they do happen to have a first round exit these hacks will be sure to find their own quotes predicting such an outcome.
 
2013-02-26 08:55:52 AM  

Fubegra: I know there are plenty of butthurt Wings fans who like to say "bandwagon" about the Hawks, but it's really more a case of fans who had been driven away coming back.


But that's the exact definition of bandwagon.  Fans who stay away when things are bad (for whatever reason) and who come back when things are good again.

I wouldn't get too upset about it though.  Almost all teams in the league have a contingent of bandwagon fans.  Toronto and Montreal are probably the only two teams in the league that would always sell-out forever no matter how bad the team is on the ice.
 
2013-02-26 09:01:58 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: If the Hawks get the President's Trophy, they're pretty much guaranteed to win the Cup, right?


Historically, the President's Trophy winners have a better than average chance of winning the Cup.

16 teams make the playoffs.  If all things were equal, they would each have a 1/16 = 6.25% chance of winning the Cup.

Since the President's Trophy was first awarded in 1985-86, Trophy winners have won the Cup 7 out of 26 times.  That's 26.9% of the time, more than one out of every four.

So no, the President's Trophy doesn't guarantee you a Cup, but history suggests that teams that win it have significantly better odds.
 
2013-02-26 09:06:19 AM  

Doc Daneeka: But that's the exact definition of bandwagon. Fans who stay away when things are bad (for whatever reason) and who come back when things are good again.


To be fair, let's give the Hawks fans a pass on this one because Bill Wirtz really did nickle-and-dime the team to death. For decades.

Sometimes the only way to change things is through boycott. Hawks fans understood this. Leafs fans never will, which is why the ownership will never see an impetus to cure its ills.
 
2013-02-26 09:12:05 AM  

Dick Gozinya: It's going to be so much fun watching them go down in flames in the first round of the playoffs.


2012 Red Wings nod in approval.
 
2013-02-26 09:16:36 AM  

Ishkur: To be fair, let's give the Hawks fans a pass on this one because Bill Wirtz really did nickle-and-dime the team to death. For decades.


Meh.  This is the NHL we're talking about here.  Lots of teams have had terrible owners.  Hell, lots of teams have had criminal owners.

One of my team's former owners is currently cooling his heels in federal penitentiary for massive fraud and embezzlement which bankrupted the team and nearly caused its relocation.

So I don't have all that much sympathy for them.
 
2013-02-26 09:26:11 AM  
In Chicago it wasn't even about the on-ice product anymore.  "Dollar" Bill Wirtz had done everything he could to try to prevent people from becoming fans, including not allowing home games to be televised locally.  Over time, people finally said "Fine, you don't want us to watch?  We'll find something else to spend our money on".  Even when they started getting outdrawn by the local minor league team he refused to budge.

Many years ago he even had a policy of not letting the radio broadcast start until the second period out of fear that people would stop going to games if they could watch or hear the whole game at home.

The day he died and his son took over, I believe the Hawks sold a couple thousand season ticket plans and there were talks about a new TV contract to include home games before the body was even cold.  Rocky Wirtz understood the problem and did everything he could to fix it and it is paying off handsomely.
 
2013-02-26 09:32:32 AM  
Yay, now this turned into a thread where not only do Chicago fans brag about their team as though they're never going to lose, but they can also bask in their sense of superiority for being bandwagon fans and how justified they were to be so.

/of course you're bandwagon fans
//you have to be a retard not to be
///"Hey let's go see the local sh*tty team every single day and tell other people how awesome they are! That sounds like fun!"
 
2013-02-26 09:35:47 AM  

Ishkur: They are using up all their luck now and won't have any left for the playoffs.

First, a bunch of freak injuries to marquee players. Then, an unforgiving series of bizarre games involving bad bounces will be their undoing.

Mark my words.


Luck? Have you watched any of their games this season?  They're solid from line 1 through 4 and the questionable goaltending has been spot on.  The young guys have been stepping up and producing numbers when the star players have not.  Give credit where credit is due.  They're punishing the West one game at a time.  Will they go undefeated?  No.  But these claims that a red hot kick-in-the-dick early start guarantees they'll be out in the first round of the playoffs reeks of butt-hurt.  Sorry your team lost a few games.  You'll get em next time, Tiger.
 
2013-02-26 09:39:04 AM  

Doc Daneeka: One of my team's former owners is currently cooling his heels in federal penitentiary for massive fraud and embezzlement which bankrupted the team and nearly caused its relocation.


Ah yes, John Rigas.

Can't sell a team to a Canadian billionaire who invented the motherfarking Blackberry, but let's give the Sabres to this guy who doesn't actually have the money but that's okay because he'll steal from his fledgling cable TV empire to pay for it all.

Gotta love the NHL's accounting ethics.
 
2013-02-26 09:45:05 AM  
Up until a few years ago, when the Red Wings in Chicago, you could go to the game and it would be around 50% Wings fans. That's dropped down to probably 25% now, but it's still hilarious that a metro area of 9 million people can't fill their stands with their own supporters.
 
2013-02-26 09:46:50 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Luck? Have you watched any of their games this season?


I have. Seven games they had to come from behind in the last five minutes.

WhiskeySticks: They're solid from line 1 through 4 and the questionable goaltending has been spot on. The young guys have been stepping up and producing numbers when the star players have not. Give credit where credit is due. They're punishing the West one game at a time. Will they go undefeated? No. But these claims that a red hot kick-in-the-dick early start guarantees they'll be out in the first round of the playoffs reeks of butt-hurt.


I hi-lighted the parts you should be nervous about. This is what I mean by luck: Things like this have a tendency to even out longterm. If a goalie is having the best year of his career or a young player is on pace for 50 goals and he's never scored 50 goals before, it's usually an aberration called a streak -- he WILL slow down, he WILL slump, he WILL end the season at the expected nominal statistical probability. He's just getting all his goals now. It happens.

WhiskeySticks: Sorry your team lost a few games


My team is the only team the Hawks couldn't beat. No sleep lost here.
 
2013-02-26 10:07:10 AM  
To be fair, a huge part of the Blackhawks bandwagon thing actually IS a part of the Bill Wirtz problem. Chicago is/was much more interested in hockey than NBA basketball. But the combination of the Jordan years (which is much more of a bandwagon) and Bill Wirtz really hid those fans.

For 30 years, Wirtz never showed home games, and typically hid the away games on somewhat obscure cable networks. And yet I still new people who were stalwart fans and insisted on going to games...but never got anyone else to go because it was impossible to understand the product without the television exposure.

Geez, "under the ownership of Wirtz, the Chicago Blackhawks were named by in 2004 as the worst franchise in sports by ESPN" How many fans do you expect to want to see that?

Fark link from when he died:
http://www.fark.com/comments/3093704/Blackhawks-owner-Dollar-Bill-Wi rt z-has-died-Memorial-services-to-be-blacked-out-Eulogist-will-be-traded -for-bag-of-pucks-$5
 
2013-02-26 10:08:36 AM  

Ishkur: My team is the only team the Hawks couldn't beat. No sleep lost here.


Well, it can't be Vancouver, Hawks lost one and won one in a shoot out against them.

So that narrows it down to Minnesota or Anaheim.

If your team is the Wild, I'm be a bit concerned yet keeping with being "Minnesota Nice".
If your team in the Ducks, there's two more meetings between the teams.  You have a valid point and I'm looking forward to these games.

With that being said, I'm just going to say I wish the shootout didn't exist and I hate bandwagon fans.

I'm not looking at these young guys for just the number of goals they put up.  It's everything from blocking shots, hitting, killing penalties, clearing the zone.  When your D and forecheck run a tight ship, it makes a goaltenders job that much easier.

Sleep tight, my friend.
 
2013-02-26 10:11:16 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Up until a few years ago, when the Red Wings in Chicago, you could go to the game and it would be around 50% Wings fans. That's dropped down to probably 25% now, but it's still hilarious that a metro area of 9 million people can't fill their stands with their own supporters.


I know right, those BANDWAGON fans!?!  The arena was exactly 25% empty last night again because fans from Edmonton did not travel in to fill the league's largest stadium.  If only the mighty Red Wings could come to town, maybe the Blackhawks could finally sellout a home game.

Oh wait, Chicago has led league attendance at capacity for the last 5 years.  but but but BANDWAGON FANS!
 
2013-02-26 10:11:43 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Up until a few years ago, when the Red Wings in Chicago, you could go to the game and it would be around 50% Wings fans. That's dropped down to probably 25% now, but it's still hilarious that a metro area of 9 million people can't fill their stands with their own supporters.


Oh please. You know it wasn't that long ago that Detroiters couldn't fill up their own stadium even with a competitive team. Hawks attendance woes had nothing to do with "bandwagon" fans and everything to do with Bill Wirtz being a terrible owner and Hawks fans knowing it.

Of course Detroit fans move to Chicago because they can't stand their own miserable, dying, shiathole, scum-infested city and then go on to brag about how awesome Detroit is and develop a severely deluded superiority complex. I have to say it is refreshing to see them dying of jealousy and arguing unsubstantiated points during this current streak.
 
2013-02-26 10:14:45 AM  
If you guys wanna gripe about Chicago bandwagons, just wait until Rose is healthy. The attention I've seen paid to the Bulls after he went down vs. before is crazy, it isn't like they plummeted to last place in the league. The people who will suddenly be trumpeting about every Bulls victory once Rose is playing who can't be bothered to watch now is ridiculous. Probably same people who hadn't seen a Bulls game post-Jordan until Rose signed.
 
2013-02-26 10:16:45 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Well, it can't be Vancouver, Hawks lost one and won one in a shoot out against them.


Since when does the shootout in any way, shape or form at any time in history by official decree as handed down on stone tablets by the mighty Hockey Gods of Mount Zambolympus, ever constituted real hockey?

Shootouts are neither wins nor losses. They're just bullshiat spectacles for moronic simpletons who can't tolerate ties.
 
2013-02-26 10:22:11 AM  

Ishkur: Since when does the shootout in any way, shape or form at any time in history by official decree as handed down on stone tablets by the mighty Hockey Gods of Mount Zambolympus, ever constituted real hockey?


Well, since the 05-06 season.  I wish they would go away.
 
2013-02-26 10:24:59 AM  
A FARK THREAD ABOUT THE HAWKS?!?!?!

*clicks*

Oh... different Hawks....

(._.,)
 
2013-02-26 10:25:07 AM  
Im beginning to suspect that this is not a fluke and they are really pretty good
 
2013-02-26 10:27:55 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Well, since the 05-06 season.


Says Buttman. He ain't hockey.

I will give credit that the Hawks are good. They've been a top5 team for years. But their standing betrays their worth. They are overachieving. I'm not alarmed.

These things have a way of evening out eventually. They always do.
 
2013-02-26 10:37:21 AM  

Ishkur: WhiskeySticks: Well, since the 05-06 season.

Says Buttman. He ain't hockey.

I will give credit that the Hawks are good. They've been a top5 team for years. But their standing betrays their worth. They are overachieving. I'm not alarmed.

These things have a way of evening out eventually. They always do.


Usually ends up with the Canucks being a top team in the league and never winning the cup, right?
 
2013-02-26 10:41:47 AM  

Ishkur: WhiskeySticks: Well, since the 05-06 season.

Says Buttman. He ain't hockey.

I will give credit that the Hawks are good. They've been a top5 team for years. But their standing betrays their worth. They are overachieving. I'm not alarmed.

These things have a way of evening out eventually. They always do.


Wait, I thought it was because the 'hawks were the only team in hockey shape because Kane played in Switzerland?

We're on to "they're statistically lucky right now and the bounces will revert to the mean?"  Sweet, let me update my thinking.  

I should also get ready for the "they've played a weak schedule - all the teams they've played have a couple more losses on average than teams from the east.  So it's just a reflection of sub-par competition."  That's what I'm going to start pushing next week or the week after.

/hardly suggesting they'll go undefeated
//blues will probably end it
 
2013-02-26 10:42:34 AM  
WOW...

30 people care about hockey. Impressive!
 
2013-02-26 10:44:44 AM  

SlagginOff: Usually ends up with the Canucks being a top team in the league and never winning the cup, right?


No, more like how Luongo can get a shutout in one game and then shiat the bed the very next game.
 
2013-02-26 10:48:28 AM  

Tiberius Gracchus: That's what I'm going to start pushing next week or the week after.


I'm going to start pushing for a gaggle of Optimates to club you and your brother to death in the forum if you don't smarten up.
 
2013-02-26 10:56:14 AM  

justtray: WOW...

30 people care about hockey. Impressive!


Dude, learn to count.  People have posted multiple times so the number of people who care about hockey is way less than thirty.  I won't hold it against you, you knucklehead.  I encourage you to enroll in your local community college.
 
2013-02-26 11:04:13 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Up until a few years ago, when the Red Wings in Chicago, you could go to the game and it would be around 50% Wings fans. That's dropped down to probably 25% now, but it's still hilarious that a metro area of 9 million people can't fill their stands with their own supporters.


Ahh, thebutthurtWalmart Wolverine from yesterday.  I was wondering if you would show your face in here.  It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast.  Really gets under the skin of petty littledoochebags like you.
 
2013-02-26 11:19:56 AM  

Guelph35: In Chicago it wasn't even about the on-ice product anymore.  "Dollar" Bill Wirtz had done everything he could to try to prevent people from becoming fans, including not allowing home games to be televised locally.  Over time, people finally said "Fine, you don't want us to watch?  We'll find something else to spend our money on".  Even when they started getting outdrawn by the local minor league team he refused to budge.

Many years ago he even had a policy of not letting the radio broadcast start until the second period out of fear that people would stop going to games if they could watch or hear the whole game at home.

The day he died and his son took over, I believe the Hawks sold a couple thousand season ticket plans and there were talks about a new TV contract to include home games before the body was even cold.  Rocky Wirtz understood the problem and did everything he could to fix it and it is paying off handsomely.


I've told this CSB story but I'll tell it again.  In the early 90's at the old Chicago Stadium, I was at a Hawks game and had to use the restroom.  There was a kid in there, about 9 or 10, who was furiously ripping out paper towels from the dispensers and throwing them on the floor.  His dad circled back in the restroom and asked him what he was doing.  "I'm bankrupting Dollar Bill, dad, I'm bankrupting Dollar Bill."

/That's how hated that clown was
//Nothing like being booed at your own memorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEHxmxXDhhM#t=0m12s
///Go Hawks
 
2013-02-26 11:25:20 AM  

Cucumber_Breath: Ahh, thebutthurtWalmart Wolverine from yesterday. I was wondering if you would show your face in here. It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast. Really gets under the skin of petty littledoochebags like you.


The Red Wangs can still put up numbers.  They just racked 8 against Vancouver.  Don't count them out, this coming from a Hawks fan.
 
2013-02-26 11:30:21 AM  

Cucumber_Breath: It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast.


Yes, 19 games of the regular season mean everything. Wake me up when the playoffs start.
 
2013-02-26 11:31:06 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Cucumber_Breath: Ahh, thebutthurtWalmart Wolverine from yesterday. I was wondering if you would show your face in here. It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast. Really gets under the skin of petty littledoochebags like you.

The Red Wangs can still put up numbers.  They just racked 8 against Vancouver.  Don't count them out, this coming from a Hawks fan.


I am fully aware of that.  Z and Dats are still two of the best players in the league, so they will be in it.  I was just trolling a troll.
 
2013-02-26 12:34:16 PM  
I miss the days me and my dad could get seats a few rows behind the ice for really cheap. Now I'm lucky if I can find nose bleeds for that price. Filled with corporate douches and ditzes who have no clue what's going on except that it's trendy to be there
 
2013-02-26 12:49:36 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Cucumber_Breath: Ahh, thebutthurtWalmart Wolverine from yesterday. I was wondering if you would show your face in here. It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast. Really gets under the skin of petty littledoochebags like you.

The Red Wangs can still put up numbers.  They just racked 8 against Vancouver.  Don't count them out, this coming from a Hawks fan.


The wings are still a good team, it's just that their fans are insufferable cockwarts.
 
2013-02-26 01:20:35 PM  

Ishkur: Tiberius Gracchus: That's what I'm going to start pushing next week or the week after.

I'm going to start pushing for a gaggle of Optimates to club you and your brother to death in the forum if you don't smarten up.


My brother had his slave stab him in the chest 10 years after my run in with the party of opposition thank you very much!
 
2013-02-26 03:22:35 PM  

Fubegra: Dollar Bill had this mindset that putting the games on TV would mean lost ticket sales, but now that the games are televised we have sellout crowds every game.


I'm surprised no one ever told Dollar Bill that he could charge 4x for board ads if they televised home games.

/because that thought never would have crossed his dinosaur pea brain
 
2013-02-26 03:38:49 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Fubegra: I know there are plenty of butthurt Wings fans who like to say "bandwagon" about the Hawks, but it's really more a case of fans who had been driven away coming back.

But that's the exact definition of bandwagon.  Fans who stay away when things are bad (for whatever reason) and who come back when things are good again.

I wouldn't get too upset about it though.  Almost all teams in the league have a contingent of bandwagon fans.  Toronto and Montreal are probably the only two teams in the league that would always sell-out forever no matter how bad the team is on the ice.


The problem with Bill Wirtz is that he was actively antagonistic towards the fanbase. He would not allow all home games to be televised up until he died, and he only relented and allowed select games (Detroit, St. Louis) to be televised only about 10 years ago. He would never pay to keep talent around (Ed Belfour, Jeremy Roenick), and his GM Bob Pulford would make some of the most mind-bogglingly stupid trades in the history of hockey. I'm sure you remember Stephane Beauregard for Dominik Hasek. Finally, when they drafted Toews, I worried that he would just get buried in the minors, play a season for the Hawks while showing what he was capable of, then go play somewhere else - because that's what happened to prospects on the Hawks in the dark days of the regime.

/glad Bill died when he did
//and his son had a plan from the start
 
2013-02-26 03:51:59 PM  

SlagginOff: WhiskeySticks: Cucumber_Breath: Ahh, thebutthurtWalmart Wolverine from yesterday. I was wondering if you would show your face in here. It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast. Really gets under the skin of petty littledoochebags like you.

The Red Wangs can still put up numbers.  They just racked 8 against Vancouver.  Don't count them out, this coming from a Hawks fan.

The wings are still a good team, it's just that their fans are insufferable cockwarts.


There is no douchebag quite like abutthurt insufferable Red Wingsdouchebag.
 
2013-02-26 03:59:49 PM  

Cucumber_Breath: SlagginOff: WhiskeySticks: Cucumber_Breath: Ahh, thebutthurtWalmart Wolverine from yesterday. I was wondering if you would show your face in here. It must really sting to see the Red Wings fade so hard, and theBlackhaws rise so fast. Really gets under the skin of petty littledoochebags like you.

The Red Wangs can still put up numbers.  They just racked 8 against Vancouver.  Don't count them out, this coming from a Hawks fan.

The wings are still a good team, it's just that their fans are insufferable cockwarts.

There is no douchebag quite like abutthurt insufferable Red Wingsdouchebag.


I actually tend to expand that statement fans of any Detroit team.
 
2013-02-26 04:36:58 PM  
That should say TO fans of any Detroit teams. Office drinking is tough...
 
2013-02-26 05:28:25 PM  
All I hope is that they manage to beat the Blues Thursday or I will never have a moment's peace in my household again.

We were in the Dollar Bill boycott/support the Wolves club too. Between the changes Rocky made and that now the Wolves are a Vancouver affiliate, we haven't been to a Wolves game in over two years.

Guilty admission: we did go to a Griffins game last month, had a great time. I sort of want the Red Wings to go east so I don't have to hate them so much.
 
2013-02-26 06:11:31 PM  
Now that they don't have Bynum, I only hate them half as much as I did previously. Nevertheless, as long as they have Metta World's Biggest Douche, I will cheer for them all, and all of their fans, to die of dysentery. Just to be clear, all FARKing Lakers must FARKing hang.
 
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