Weaver95: I cannot even begin to untangle the morass of lies, contradictions and bullshiat the right wing in this country has said they believe when it comes to the subject of rape in this country.
MrHappyRotter: You can't spell rape without pear.
born_yesterday: Intro to Physics...the first day for the class that semester. The professor...gives his spiel...asks if there are any questions. A girl a few rows ahead of me raises her hand. The professor nods, and the girl stands up. In a shaky but determined voice she says, "Sir, I don't have a question. But the person sitting there is [fake name here], and he raped me." She stood there pointing at the guy.
ciberido: After all, Superman is known for his strength, not his speed.
gilgigamesh: yeah, I figured something like this was the real "honor code violation" before I even clicked. She's being punished for making the school look bad. Keeping the epidemic of campus rape hush-hush is the only priority, and the result is: surprise! More rape.
Benjamin Orr: Jesus you guys and gals are really sexually abusing this thread
JohnnyRebel88: True Story: My good friend that has the utmost credibility to me and others, and is a pussy, was accused of rape. The police did not follow through with the charges. She had cheated on her boyfriend with my friend, whom I believed he hated. Women wanna get f*d sometimes because they are whores, drunks and liars. This woman has no reason to do this if she was leading to his name, which I am sure she was doing, also is it not considered to be defamation as to the school's credibility. Unless this is a Sandusky type case, she should shut the f up and get help elsewhere.This could of been personal, she also might of threatened the school. No info, no reason to be up in arms.
Theaetetus: IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.Hey, everyone! Sociopath Alert! Set your Farkies.IgG4:"But I'm just making a joke! Get a sense of humor!"Sure, sure, Sociopath.[i1094.photobucket.com image 300x250]We're on to your kind.What the hell are you talking about?The proper response is, "oh, shiat, I didn't mean that seriously. Gosh, I now realize that was as inappropriate as McFarlane's jokes last night. I disavow that entire post and beg forgiveness."Helpful tip: you can copy-paste the above via the edit menu.
Thunderpipes: She was probably just hammered.
Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me... Sounds like trouble to me.Who even repeats themselves this way? Someone frothing with rage.
Pharmdawg: Where the hell am I living? Did I go to sleep in the 20th century and wake up after honor and justice and decency were outlawed? Pedophile priests protected by popes, bungling bankers bankrolled by bureaucrats, and now rapists rudely razzed. WTF America?!Someone fold up the flag and eat the last piece of apple pie...we're finished.
Theaetetus: IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.Hey, everyone! Sociopath Alert! Set your Farkies.IgG4:"But I'm just making a joke! Get a sense of humor!"Sure, sure, Sociopath.[i1094.photobucket.com image 300x250]We're on to your kind.What the hell are you talking about?The proper response is, "oh, shiat, I didn't mean that seriously. Gosh, I now realize that was as inappropriate as McFarlane's jokes last night. I disavow that entire post and beg forgiveness."Helpful tip: you can copy-paste the above via the edit menu.Are you drunk? Look if you get raped you go to the cops and press charges then you let the DA take it from there. You don't file a complaint with the US Dept of Ed Office of Civil Rights. When you do that you look like an activist with an axe to grind, which in this case I think she probably is. How that makes me a psychopath I have no idea.She complained to a state authority with state police, and only went to a federal agency because of their lack of response. But that's apparently not good enough for you, because you want to call her "an activist with an axe to grind" so that people will shut her up. Boy, you sure are angry at being called out on your own words.And I stand by my original declaration of your Farky. That's incredibly sociopathic, and there's really no excuse for the rest of us to stand idly by and let your words spew out unopposed. As long as people think you have any credibility, you're harmful to society.
atomicmask: Maybe she should wait for her "alleged" rapist to be convicted so its no longer an "Alleged" case and its a convicted case, other wise its just defaming the character of someone.
FTFA: the graduate student attorney general sent a warning to Gambill that she may have violated the school's Honor Code,
IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.
SlothB77: the rapist must be on the basketball team. or football team or lax team.
Cataholic: If I've learned anything from this thread, it's that all men either have raped someone or wish to rape someone or would rape someone given the chance, and that anyone who defends someone who probably did not rape someone is still a misogynist asshole because they are white-knighting someone who likely will rape or at the very least wants to rape someone.
WhippingBoy: spiderpaz: WhippingBoy: MagSeven: And yes, IANAL but I believe that the victim's physical arousal has been used by the defense in more than one rape case.What does that stand for? I'm assuming it's like AFAIK (as far as I know) I can't really Google it at work...I. LOVE. ANAL. (you can't type a "heart" symbol)I♥ ANALWell there ya go...
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FatherChaos: Wow, it took this long for this?
Thunderpipes: Not one single person I have ever heard of doesn't think rape is a big deal.
Thunderpipes: Fluorescent Testicle: Fun fact: Thunderpipes (well, the character he plays, anyway) is a birther.That is just being plain stupid. I get it, I am a conservative and hated here.But just once, I would love an actual logical argument from you guys. You are the real trolls, not I.
BarkingUnicorn: doglover: mesmer242: From what I can tell from the description of the "honor court", they got rid of the idea of lawyers and police officers, and made a bunch of college students both the judge and jury.[i2.kym-cdn.com image 146x227]Seriously!?It started out innocently enough. At first student courts handled only real "honor code" matters: cheating on tests, streaking, puking in the communal showers, noise violations, and other college idiocies that real courts shouldn't be bothered with. Then they became tools of the schools for covering up real crimes."You student justices have done so well! We think you're ready for more responsibilities."The students ate it up, of course.
Weaver95: ok this has been fun but I gotta get up early in the morning. i'll check back tomorrow to see how deep the rabbit hole went and who I need to add to my 'women hating/pro-rape' list of GOP shills on fark.
Weaver95: skullkrusher:She availed herself of the "honor court" option...because she had no choice...she didn't like that and wanted another option. she was told 'honor court or nothing' and to STFU about it, not to mention it to the press and get over it.not to mention that the 'court' was run by ill trained fellow students who did a sloppy job and might very well have let their own bias decide the 'case'. no appeals either, and don't talk about it to the press or you can kiss your degree goodbye.
Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me... Sounds like trouble to me.Who even repeats themselves this way? Someone frothing with ragpe.
China White Tea: And really, I have to know: Who thought it would be a good idea to let some idiot children without with no significant legal education or bar licensing act as judges, juries, and legal counsel for sexual assault cases?
Dokushin: You know, no one had to tell me "not to rape." Just like no one had to tell me not to murder. Frankly, I find it pretty farking offensive when people say this -- that they think men have to be "trained" not to rape. There are criminals among us. We need to do more to look after their mental health and to perhaps cure them of the diseases that destroy their ability to reason. But men are not criminals, and they do not need to be taught how to have respect for others.
Kazan: White Southern Men like Rape. More at 11
Thunderpipes: Genevieve Marie: Thunderpipes: When the Duke Lacrosse team is let out of prison?The Duke Lacrosse team was exonerated, very publicly, and was not sent to prison.It was also one case. Does it not strike you as odd that it's the only false accuser story people ever bring up?It was a joke......I do find it odd all these magical rapists are running around, not even getting kicked out of college, let alone charged with a crime, and they are all guilty. Sounds like a bunch of malarkey. Now, given how extremely liberal all colleges are as well, and a woman on the board no less telling the chick she is a douche, I side with the college. Months of this evil abusive boyfriend, and then she goes to the college to get the guy in trouble? She was right. First time a guy abuses you, leave. Christ, not like she was married with kids and dependent either. And she was depressed and had suicide attempts? Crazy chick.The other girl with head wound, go to the police, let them handle it.
Thunderpipes: Funny how society doesn't attack chicks that whip their husbands, huh?
Thunderpipes: Now, given how extremely liberal all colleges are as well
ModernLuddite: Goofus goes public with accusations of a crime.Gallant calls the police and provides evidentiary support.
Voiceofreason01: Theaetetus:Glad to know you guys have your talking points straight. It makes it easier to identify you.Nowhere in the article or the articles posted in the comments does it say she went to the police and nobody has been charged with a crime. I'm not going to come and white knight a rapist but there's also no real evidence that the boyfriend raped anybody. I might believe that University is covering things up but are you asserting that the local and State police are just ignoring accusations of rape?/Interestingly I have you farkied as a troll.
Theaetetus: I'm not a litigator. They're all a bunch of ulcer-ridden coke heads.
Genevieve Marie: Thunderpipes: When the Duke Lacrosse team is let out of prison?The Duke Lacrosse team was exonerated, very publicly, and was not sent to prison.It was also one case. Does it not strike you as odd that it's the only false accuser story people ever bring up?
BSABSVR: Have you never seen a rape thread before? Or one of the endless "Autobiography of Doglover X" threads? Cause you clearly are not new here.
BarkingUnicorn: The Daily Tarheel has some good journalism on this case.
Kaenneth: I know that women lie. Had a girl accuse me of 'undressing her with my eyes' in high school. No clue who she was, and I wasn't, because I'm gay.
cowgirl toffee: Can we also say "potential rape-ie" when we refer to her?
kendelrio: Having had a sister raped, several friends raped, yes, I know the trauma.
doglover: Meanwhile, a man gets accused of rape, but proven innocent later, people still get all bent outta shape and want to lynch him years after because accusations make headlines but retractions get printed on the back page.
kendelrio: Having had a sister raped, several friends raped, yes,
Genevieve Marie: kendelrio: But going to an "Honor Court", in which, if the rapist is found guilty, the maximum penalty is **gasp** expulsion, is "easier"?fark that. If he's a rapist, contact the police.Do you have any idea what that process is like for a rape victim?
Ryan2065: But Judicial Programs Officer Erik Hunter said the Honor Court members and the student attorney general's staff received a full day of training after the interim procedures were implemented.
Weaver95: Genevieve Marie:Yup. But isn't it fascinating how rape threads always reveal ingrained misogyny? People IMMEDIATELY question the victim, her story, how she handled it and the way she's speaking without bothering to find the facts. The first instinct for some is always to white night an accused rapist.I don't think I will ever get to a place where I'm desensitized enough to not be creeped the hell out by that.yeah, but with Limbaugh and Fox News and the religious right out there constantly training their followers to believe that women who claim rape are all lying whores...can you really be surprised when you see someone blame the rape victim instead of asking questions about what actually happened...?
Genevieve Marie: She has not named her rapist publicly. She is not harassing him personally.
Theaetetus: Whup, got another sociopath! "If the rapist isn't convicted beyond a reasonable doubt, then the accuser is guilty of lying and we don't need trials or anything."Tag him and bag him.
Weaver95: Somacandra: Thunderpipes: So, the guy was charged with a crime?Read the actual account linked to in the piece. She suffered a concussion and woke up covered in blood. She doesn't know who the rapist was. The point is when she tried to deal with how it affected her coursework, the university refused to cooperate and she found out that others had been treated similarly--thus leading a reasonable observer to conclude a systemic problem. I hate to say this, but as a faculty member I've had to deal with student victims (taking my classes) coming to me for help. Its incredibly sad and painful. And I'm not even the victim.just skimmed that article. YIKES! if the school looked the other way after something that bad...what ELSE are they covering up!?
gadian: Has he been convicted? I'm not a GED holding law type, but I imagine that plays into the harassment angle just a little bit.
Hagenhatesyouall: Was the dude convicted of raping her?If so, the school is farked.If not, then that biatch needs to shut the fark up and suck up some slander charges.
IgG4: Theaetetus: IgG4: She sounds like a trouble maker to me. Multiple accusations against various men, exploiting what ever means she has at her disposal to make her political position heard? Sounds like trouble to me.Hey, everyone! Sociopath Alert! Set your Farkies.IgG4:"But I'm just making a joke! Get a sense of humor!"Sure, sure, Sociopath.[i1094.photobucket.com image 300x250]We're on to your kind.What the hell are you talking about?
BarkingUnicorn: I would sue that "Honor Court" for its next generation's worth of budgets.Going to student court for rape justice is like going to an HOA with a housing discrimination complaint. Call real cops. Get a real lawyer.
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