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2013-02-25 04:55:33 PM
images.thetruthaboutcars.com
 
2013-02-25 05:08:41 PM
Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.
 
2013-02-25 05:10:52 PM
How about they reintroduce home ec and stop feeding the kids crap in the cafeteria?
 
2013-02-25 05:15:47 PM

codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.


I don't see how this is any different from school nurses checking for head lice or scoliosis.
 
2013-02-25 05:18:00 PM
Dear Parents,

It's come to our attention that your kid is fat. And black. We can only have one or the other.

Love,
The school
 
2013-02-25 05:18:37 PM
They should take each letter, and put it in a massive box full of packing popcorn. When it arrives at the parent's house, they have to dig and dig just to find the letter. When they open it, it'll say "Did you see how fat and useless this package was? Your child is even worse."
 
2013-02-25 05:21:45 PM

codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.


Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?
 
2013-02-25 05:23:15 PM
Wow, people are still using BMI to evaluate an individual's health? What's next? Phrenology?
 
2013-02-25 05:32:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?


If I wanted to know if my kid is fat and whether or not it's causing health problems for them I'll ask the pediatrician who has my kids complete medical history. I don't need some busy body school nurse writing me a strongly worded letter becuase she thinks my kid is unhealthy based on what the scale says.

//Doesn't have a kid.
 
2013-02-25 05:36:10 PM

cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?


Also, nurses aren't supposed to be making a diagnosis that's for a doctor to determine.

//Husband is an RN.
 
2013-02-25 05:39:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?


Ours was a nurse practitioner. She was overqualified and underpaid, but she loved the job.
 
2013-02-25 05:41:04 PM

codergirl42: cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?

If I wanted to know if my kid is fat and whether or not it's causing health problems for them I'll ask the pediatrician who has my kids complete medical history. I don't need some busy body school nurse writing me a strongly worded letter becuase she thinks my kid is unhealthy based on what the scale says.

//Doesn't have a kid.


What do you think these letters are for? The school nurses that check BMI are not taking a full medical history and making a diagnosis. They are simply telling you that your kid is a fat tub of goo. You can do what you want with that information. Good parents will talk to their pediatrician about it and determine what if anything needs to be done about it. Stupid parents will just biatch and moan and then order pizza for dinner for the third night in a row.
 
2013-02-25 05:52:49 PM
Last I checked being a fatty-fat-fatty was pretty noticible. If the parents cared they'd already have seen a pediatrician instead of waiting for the school nurse to send a letter notifying them of thier fatty-fat-fatness.
 
2013-02-25 05:59:58 PM

max_pooper: codergirl42: cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?

If I wanted to know if my kid is fat and whether or not it's causing health problems for them I'll ask the pediatrician who has my kids complete medical history. I don't need some busy body school nurse writing me a strongly worded letter becuase she thinks my kid is unhealthy based on what the scale says.

//Doesn't have a kid.

What do you think these letters are for? The school nurses that check BMI are not taking a full medical history and making a diagnosis. They are simply telling you that your kid is a fat tub of goo. You can do what you want with that information. Good parents will talk to their pediatrician about it and determine what if anything needs to be done about it. Stupid parents will just biatch and moan and then order pizza for dinner for the third night in a row.


Dear, Mr. & Mrs. Fats we regret to inform you that you have failed as a parent.  Based on the flawed BMI scale we have determined your kid is fat. PLEASE SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION IMMEDIATLY.
 
2013-02-25 06:02:41 PM

max_pooper: codergirl42: cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?

If I wanted to know if my kid is fat and whether or not it's causing health problems for them I'll ask the pediatrician who has my kids complete medical history. I don't need some busy body school nurse writing me a strongly worded letter becuase she thinks my kid is unhealthy based on what the scale says.

//Doesn't have a kid.

What do you think these letters are for? The school nurses that check BMI are not taking a full medical history and making a diagnosis. They are simply telling you that your kid is a fat tub of goo. You can do what you want with that information. Good parents will talk to their pediatrician about it and determine what if anything needs to be done about it. Stupid parents will just biatch and moan and then order pizza for dinner for the third night in a row.


What a fatty based on the BMI scale might look like.

shechive.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-25 06:03:17 PM
codergirl42: max_pooper: codergirl42: cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?

If I wanted to know if my kid is fat and whether or not it's causing health problems for them I'll ask the pediatrician who has my kids complete medical history. I don't need some busy body school nurse writing me a strongly worded letter becuase she thinks my kid is unhealthy based on what the scale says.

//Doesn't have a kid.

What do you think these letters are for? The school nurses that check BMI are not taking a full medical history and making a diagnosis. They are simply telling you that your kid is a fat tub of goo. You can do what you want with that information. Good parents will talk to their pediatrician about it and determine what if anything needs to be done about it. Stupid parents will just biatch and moan and then order pizza for dinner for the third night in a row.

Dear, Mr. & Mrs. Fats we regret to inform you that you have failed as a parent.  Based on the flawed BMI scale we have determined your kid is fat. PLEASE SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION IMMEDIATLY.


Sounds good. I would include more snark though, but then again I'm not an school nurse.
 
2013-02-25 06:16:20 PM

codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.


If your little slugger has tits in 6th grade I don't think a medical degree is necessary. Plus they've been measuring fitness and BMI crap since I was in grade school decades not too long ago.
 
2013-02-25 06:47:05 PM

max_pooper: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

I don't see how this is any different from school nurses checking for head lice or scoliosis.


Your examples involve judgment.  "Is that a louse or just a gnat?"  These letters go out based on calculations that neglect relevant data. "Is that fat or muscle?"
 
2013-02-25 07:07:35 PM

BarkingUnicorn: max_pooper: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

I don't see how this is any different from school nurses checking for head lice or scoliosis.

Your examples involve judgment.  "Is that a louse or just a gnat?"  These letters go out based on calculations that neglect relevant data. "Is that fat or muscle?"


Doesn't matter. That's why it's a letter and not a diagnosis. If a kid is too heavy for his height he gets a letter sent home. It's the parents job to determine what to do about it. Responsible parents will do the responsible thing. Stupid parents will whine about it.
 
2013-02-25 07:08:54 PM
Punch the numbers (sex, height, weight, age) of my grandsons (both of them) into the online BMI calculator, and they both come back as OBESE.

Leave the other figures as is, and bump the AGE up by 2 years, the older one comes back as mid-range normal, while the younger one is borderline UNDERWEIGHT.

/Your calculator sucks
 
2013-02-25 08:00:19 PM
I was always told that I was too skinny by everyone when I was a kid, why is it unacceptable to  call someone out as being a fat fark? Especially when being fat is more unhealthy than being skinny?
 
2013-02-25 08:06:28 PM
Really? Do they think parents don't know? It's not like a developmental condition whose signs can be hard to spot.

How does the letter read?

"Dear Parent:

Here is the most recent class photograph of your child.

Need we say more?

Sincerely,
School"
 
2013-02-25 08:10:27 PM
Wouldn't a postcard do?
 
2013-02-25 08:16:54 PM
Cameron, a member of the North Andover Booster Club wrestling team and the Doughboy Wrestling Club, and he's also a football player. How could he be "obese,"

Right, because you never see obese wrestlers or football players.
 
2013-02-25 08:39:01 PM

codergirl42: Based on the flawed BMI scale


i'm a huge critic of the BMI scale, but it isn't outright wrong. Get off your farking soap box. Bad parents making for fat children need a smack upside the head. MGood parents making fat children need a reminder that they can raise healthy children.

/former fat child
//Currently healthy active outdoorsman.
 
2013-02-25 09:00:08 PM
Good.
Now teach them how to pronounce the letter "R" correctly.

Massholes.
 
2013-02-25 09:00:16 PM
it's BS man.  MY BMI IS 30.5 and my Body Fat is average
 
2013-02-25 09:01:30 PM
Massivechusetts
 
2013-02-25 09:01:58 PM
Good.

But I bet they already know it, since they themselves statistically are also obese.
 
2013-02-25 09:03:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: They should take each letter, and put it in a massive box full of packing popcorn. When it arrives at the parent's house, they have to dig and dig just to find the letter. When they open it, it'll say "Did you see how fat and useless this package was? Your child is even worse."


I say we vote on this right away.  Put me down for YES.
 
2013-02-25 09:04:28 PM
I recall having my sight and hearing checked a few times at school by outside personnel, so the article didn't say who actually determined the BMI of the students.  If they are going to check the kids' health out, nothing new in public schools, atleast they only sent letters to the house.  Imagine if they announced the 'fat letters' in front of the whole school, not that kids need to be told who's fat.

Public schools will always stick their noses into the health and well-being of the kids, because there are a lot of families that barely know how to raise them.  Intrusive, sure, necessary, in some cases it is.  I recall having classmates that weren't the healthiest or hygienic.  Usually, schools keep things like that hushed and only in between them and the parents.  Here is a thought, don't make it public knowledge and no one would know about the letter.
 
2013-02-25 09:04:38 PM

Mugato: I was always told that I was too skinny by everyone when I was a kid, why is it unacceptable to  call someone out as being a fat fark? Especially when being fat is more unhealthy than being skinny?


Because fat is the new normal.

It is now abnormal to be of a healthy weight.  Skinny is the out group, fat is the in group, and you're going to get ganged up on if you dare tell someone they might be leading an unhealthy lifestyle.
 
2013-02-25 09:05:28 PM

codergirl42: Last I checked being a fatty-fat-fatty was pretty noticible. If the parents cared they'd already have seen a pediatrician instead of waiting for the school nurse to send a letter notifying them of thier fatty-fat-fatness.


*checks profile*

o_0

*backs away slowly*
 
2013-02-25 09:07:42 PM

dj_bigbird: Wow, people are still using BMI to evaluate an individual's health? What's next? Phrenology?


The vast majority of adults, and moreso children, lack the muscle mass to throw off the charts. Even more rarely would it push someone from healthy to obese.

You sound big boned.
 
2013-02-25 09:07:52 PM
The parents should reciprocate by sending a letter to the school staff informing certain people that they are ugly and should seek plastic surgery.
 
2013-02-25 09:08:30 PM
But all the kids still get trophies right? We dont want to damage their self esteem.

/I was classified as husky.
//Growth spurt in high school and thinned out.
///Still husky because that was my high school mascot.
 
2013-02-25 09:09:09 PM

codergirl42: cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?

Also, nurses aren't supposed to be making a diagnosis that's for a doctor to determine.

//Husband is an RN.


Haha. Mrs. Murse.

/lonely and quietly sips beer
//lulz. Murse.
///sip
 
2013-02-25 09:09:56 PM
I thought "raising awareness" was a good thing.  Don't people want their awareness raised?
www.lupus.org
 
2013-02-25 09:12:41 PM
Meh, just lower the standards for the BMI, they have lowered the standards on everything else in schools.
 
2013-02-25 09:13:11 PM
BMI is only tangentially related to body fat percentage, and has lots of outliers where athletic people are mislabeled as obese.  Surely the medical community could come up with a better system?
 
2013-02-25 09:14:27 PM
How dare this school system tell me how to raise my precious snowflakes!

Don't they know that if my precious triplets, Jayden, Mayden and Fayden don't get their nightly box of ice cream sandwiches, they get all crabby when they play xBox for 6 hours a day?
 
2013-02-25 09:15:01 PM
I just hope the school is feeding the children a steady diet of milk, ketchup, bread, potatoes, and sugar each and every day.

codergirl42:

What a fatty based on the BMI scale might look like.

[shechive.files.wordpress.com image 500x689]


You sound fat.
 
2013-02-25 09:15:59 PM
Yes there are ways to throw BMI off. Yes, a lot of muscle or being on the short side with slightly above average fat and or/muscle can throw it off.

But those cases are few and far between. Just like "a glandular problem" can absolutely cause weight gain that is largely out of the person's control. But for every 1 person with a real glandular problem, there are 10 who claim it when they're really just lazy and unhealthy. Same goes for the BMI scale. Sure there are some people who really are healthy but have bad BMI ratings because of their body type. I know a guy in my Army unit who fails the weight test every time he takes it but still scores a 300+ on his PT test. He's short, stocky, and works out like 2 hours a day. But because of his body type, the BMI scale calls him fat. But that's not the norm. It's not even common. Chances are if you fail the BMI test, you're just fat.

Don't use it as the end-all be--all of health. Use it as a stepping stone. If you're really healthy and the test was wrong, shrug it off. But chances are it's just fat.
 
2013-02-25 09:16:48 PM
25.media.tumblr.com

First thing I thought of.
 
2013-02-25 09:16:49 PM
Dear school,

You're ugly and you smell like week old chowder with a dash of ball sweat.

Thought would like to know,
Parents.
 
2013-02-25 09:17:00 PM
Poor little snowflakes balls. Next thing you know, they'll be testing things like math and science and shaming the kids who don't study by giving them bad grades! The horror!
 
2013-02-25 09:19:06 PM

taurusowner: Yes there are ways to throw BMI off. Yes, a lot of muscle or being on the short side with slightly above average fat and or/muscle can throw it off.

But those cases are few and far between. Just like "a glandular problem" can absolutely cause weight gain that is largely out of the person's control. But for every 1 person with a real glandular problem, there are 10 who claim it when they're really just lazy and unhealthy. Same goes for the BMI scale. Sure there are some people who really are healthy but have bad BMI ratings because of their body type. I know a guy in my Army unit who fails the weight test every time he takes it but still scores a 300+ on his PT test. He's short, stocky, and works out like 2 hours a day. But because of his body type, the BMI scale calls him fat. But that's not the norm. It's not even common. Chances are if you fail the BMI test, you're just fat.

Don't use it as the end-all be--all of health. Use it as a stepping stone. If you're really healthy and the test was wrong, shrug it off. But chances are it's just fat.


or assume everyone is fat, and use it tongue and cheek as an accurate measurement so people give up dieting
 
2013-02-25 09:20:02 PM

meat0918: Mugato: I was always told that I was too skinny by everyone when I was a kid, why is it unacceptable to  call someone out as being a fat fark? Especially when being fat is more unhealthy than being skinny?

Because fat is the new normal.

It is now abnormal to be of a healthy weight.  Skinny is the out group, fat is the in group, and you're going to get ganged up on if you dare tell someone they might be leading an unhealthy lifestyle.


You mean like saying, "You're gonna go to Hell if you don't accept my God?"
 
2013-02-25 09:20:38 PM

codergirl42: max_pooper: codergirl42: cameroncrazy1984: codergirl42: Hrmmm unqualified school officials giving unsolicited medical advice, sounds like a great plan.

Aren't school nurses supposed to be licensed or registered?

If I wanted to know if my kid is fat and whether or not it's causing health problems for them I'll ask the pediatrician who has my kids complete medical history. I don't need some busy body school nurse writing me a strongly worded letter becuase she thinks my kid is unhealthy based on what the scale says.

//Doesn't have a kid.

What do you think these letters are for? The school nurses that check BMI are not taking a full medical history and making a diagnosis. They are simply telling you that your kid is a fat tub of goo. You can do what you want with that information. Good parents will talk to their pediatrician about it and determine what if anything needs to be done about it. Stupid parents will just biatch and moan and then order pizza for dinner for the third night in a row.

What a fatty based on the BMI scale might look like.


24.media.tumblr.com

How you dooin' ?
 
2013-02-25 09:21:24 PM
Maybe they could turn it into a positive?
Like, "Johnny scored an A+ in Fat fark!"
 
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