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(New York Daily News)   Bronx newborn hasn't slept through the night since she was born 18 months ago. Also meet her mom and dad, probably the world's strongest parents   (nydailynews.com) divider line 178
    More: Sappy, Weill Cornell Medical College, Bronx, Dr. Haviva Veler, sleep apnea, hyperactivity, night terrors, Haley Rivera  
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2013-02-25 09:05:32 PM

namegoeshere: Ah god I had the horrible leg cramps!  Agony, they were. I was old enough to deal with them on my own, which was good because at that time mom was not getting out of bed during the night even if there was a nuclear blast. Hot wet towels wrapped tightly around my legs, with dry ones over top, was my thing. (I did wonder why nobody asked about all the wet towels in the wash.) I didn't outgrow them until after college. My oldest seems to have missed them, but my nine year old is starting to get them. Poor baby! : (


I'll have to try the towels... So far the things that have worked for me:

Alcohol, a lot of it. I would drink myself to pass out stage and they'd be gone when I woke up.
Lortab(Normally for my back) about 4-5 of 'em
2-3 hour leg rub by my wife, not a sjort-time experience
As a kid, my adoptive mom was a total coont, so I just toughed it out. I don't think I ever mentioned them to her.

They almost always happen at the end of the day, right about time for bed...
 
2013-02-25 09:05:55 PM
My bad parenting-enabling story beats your bad parenting-enabling story.

Aka, another FARK parenting thread.
 
2013-02-25 09:17:29 PM
We couldn't get our daughter to bed before midnight until she was like 9 months old and we slowly moved her bedtime up from there. She would then only sleep eight hours at most. It was also at least three or four months after birth before she would nap more than 30 minutes or so. We did sleep training at ten or eleven months and that helped with the night wakings a lot (although she still wakes up at night sometimes) but she really took a long time to get used to sleeping. We've gotten to the point where she'll go to sleep between nine and ten at night and sleep until seven or so with occasional wakings with one decent nap and that's about good enough for us. We got looks of pity from our friends for the whole first year though.

I'm pregnant again, and we're really just hoping that this one will be a better sleeper. If that's the case, we'll survive. If that's not the case, and I become incomprehensible in my fark replies, please send me a babysitter and a gift card to a local hotel.
 
2013-02-25 09:22:42 PM
Yeah, big deal. My first one didn't sleep through the night until he was almost 4. He would occasionally bust out 3-4 hours but that was maybe once a week. He sleeps great since. My second one is normal in all respects, loves her early bedtime.

I was like this kid , as was my brother. We certainly weren't all seeing doctors about it. It's normal. I have heard of worse.
 
2013-02-25 09:27:10 PM
Big effin deal - my son didn't sleep through the night until he was 2-1/2.  And this is why:

"But she said most of the time Haley woke up for behavioral, not medical reasons. "

I guarantee those parents are rushing into the nursery every time their little darling cries in order to rock her back to sleep, thus depriving their little angel of the ability to soothe herself back to sleep and creating a vicious vicious circle.

/it was my fault I did it too
//but I was a single parent
///finally let mine cry it out when I had to go back to work and was losing my mind with no sleep
 
2013-02-25 09:29:11 PM
Maybe the kid's just afraid to fall asleep because Mom stabbed a hole through her ear and she doesn't trust that biatch.
How about waiting until the kid can actually talk and give an opinion on the subject before you pierce their ears?
 
2013-02-25 09:55:39 PM

skullkrusher: our baby sleeps 12 hours a night and has since he was about 5 weeks old. We have friends who have had the opposite experience. I don't know how the hell they do it


I've needed a minimum 12 hours a night for pretty much my whole life.  If my boss didn't know how straight and narrow I am, he would have to assume I was coming in hung over every morning, rather than sleep deprived.
 
2013-02-25 10:45:30 PM

dbirchall: Atomic Spunk: If I were offered a cute woman's nipple to suck every time I woke up crying, I'd be waking up every 3 hours too.

Our almost-14-month-old is in total agreement with this.  My wife has just recently started thinking about not letting her nap as much during the day, or keeping her up later in the evening.


We just went through this with our youngest. He is also 14 months old, and breast fed. About 2 weeks ago Mom decided that it was time for him to sleep through the night. He has always been a good eater, and was eating solids regularly, so we saw no reason to keep doing night feedings.

So one night when he woke up, I started going in and I just comforted him some and told him "No Milk". The first night he cried for an hour. The next night he got up twice, and only cried for a half hour each time. By the third night, I could go into the nursery, and he would see me, and put his head down. He got up once that night, and has slept every night since.

I admit, we have been pretty fortunate in the sleep department. We have five kids, and they are all asleep by 8pm.
 
2013-02-25 10:52:08 PM
My oldest didnt sleep thru the night til he was 5 years old. Quitcherbiatchin.
 
2013-02-25 11:09:20 PM
""she wouldn't stop screaming - every waking moment - screaming not crying, screaming.
The list of doctors was impressive.  I would just walk in with this screaming kid and say "help me - now - please"
They did every test they could think of.
She screamed bloody murder.  Until she passed out from exhaustion from screaming.
No rashes, clean diapers, no bruises or unexplained injuries, well fed, bathed
Screaming
DCPS and the PD show up - neighbors called them - "Hi, I've been expecting you"
Screaming
"Take a walk and carry her" - I walked around the Mall parking lot all night long
Take her for a ride" - I drove from Liverpool NY to Rome NY via Oneida Lake and up to Oswego
Screaming
We gave up plans to move out of state - didn't want to leave the marginal support system we had.
We moved to a larger apartment.
We put her bassinet in the kitchen area with her in it while we were moving the furniture in
She never screamed again.

I dunno - worse, neither does anyone else.
 
2013-02-25 11:22:03 PM

Marcintosh: ""she wouldn't stop screaming - every waking moment - screaming not crying, screaming.
The list of doctors was impressive.  I would just walk in with this screaming kid and say "help me - now - please"
They did every test they could think of.
She screamed bloody murder.  Until she passed out from exhaustion from screaming.
No rashes, clean diapers, no bruises or unexplained injuries, well fed, bathed
Screaming
DCPS and the PD show up - neighbors called them - "Hi, I've been expecting you"
Screaming
"Take a walk and carry her" - I walked around the Mall parking lot all night long
Take her for a ride" - I drove from Liverpool NY to Rome NY via Oneida Lake and up to Oswego
Screaming
We gave up plans to move out of state - didn't want to leave the marginal support system we had.
We moved to a larger apartment.
We put her bassinet in the kitchen area with her in it while we were moving the furniture in
She never screamed again.

I dunno - worse, neither does anyone else.


Poltergeist that didn't follow you to the new apartment?
 
2013-02-25 11:36:00 PM
My youngest was almost four before he started sleeping through the night. Now you couldn't wake him up with dynamite before 7am.
 
2013-02-25 11:39:35 PM

LadyHawke: Marcintosh: ""she wouldn't stop screaming - every waking moment - screaming not crying, screaming.
The list of doctors was impressive.  I would just walk in with this screaming kid and say "help me - now - please"
They did every test they could think of.
She screamed bloody murder.  Until she passed out from exhaustion from screaming.
No rashes, clean diapers, no bruises or unexplained injuries, well fed, bathed
Screaming
DCPS and the PD show up - neighbors called them - "Hi, I've been expecting you"
Screaming
"Take a walk and carry her" - I walked around the Mall parking lot all night long
Take her for a ride" - I drove from Liverpool NY to Rome NY via Oneida Lake and up to Oswego
Screaming
We gave up plans to move out of state - didn't want to leave the marginal support system we had.
We moved to a larger apartment.
We put her bassinet in the kitchen area with her in it while we were moving the furniture in
She never screamed again.

I dunno - worse, neither does anyone else.


Poltergeist that didn't follow you to the new apartment?

I wouldn't rule it out - that's just how creepy it was.
 
2013-02-26 01:04:56 AM
What they should do is lock her in her room. Then sleep. They aren't animals, so of course they should make sure there aren't any Darwinism objects in the room. Turn on a television as well. If the nyquil, benadril, whiskey, and rapidly rocking back and forth to mimic MIMIC shaking doesn't work it's really the only choice they have. The kid shouldn't be an asshole and keep everyone else up. What type of message does that send? "Oh, I'm a baby, the world revolves around meeee. Everything is about me and my well-being." Psh. BS to that. B to the S with a dash of ery. BSery.
 
2013-02-26 03:55:49 AM
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/Thank you vasectomy!
 
2013-02-26 09:24:58 AM
spectrumculture.com
 
2013-02-26 10:04:41 AM

lennavan: So the bolded part only works if the underlined part is true.  Not everyone mixes it up.  I have friends who picked their method - they don't want to let their baby cry himself to sleep.  So now at 16 months, the kid requires 45 minutes of rocking before he sleeps and he doesn't sleep through the night.
 So I get it, I have a lot of sympathy.  But only for the parents who legitimately gave a lot of different things a shot.


Counterpoint
 
2013-02-26 12:25:21 PM
How come nobody's posted that girl from "The Ring" yet?

She never sleeps.
 
2013-02-26 01:56:22 PM

Arthur Jumbles: Instead of having the kid sleep away from the parents in a crib have them sleep in the parent's bed.


That might work, if it weren't FARKING STUPID.  The parents actually want to sleep, not fark with the kid even more than they do now.  Kids need to learn how to sleep.  They should know that you are there, sure, but they need to be able to sleep without you.  Why?  Because healthy children can attend sleepovers, camp, nap time at preschool, and the entire span of their lives after you have died and still get to sleep eventually.
 
2013-02-26 02:02:56 PM

plewis: Arthur Jumbles: Instead of having the kid sleep away from the parents in a crib have them sleep in the parent's bed.

That might work, if it weren't FARKING STUPID.  The parents actually want to sleep, not fark with the kid even more than they do now.  Kids need to learn how to sleep.  They should know that you are there, sure, but they need to be able to sleep without you.  Why?  Because healthy children can attend sleepovers, camp, nap time at preschool, and the entire span of their lives after you have died and still get to sleep eventually.


Co-sleeping is a pretty natural cultural occurrence, and many families around the world and throughout history co-sleep for at least the first year or so of the kid's life.  I really don't think they've all grown up to be insomniacs.
 
2013-02-26 03:48:38 PM

MrPleasant: Huh....first kid would always wake up at least once during the night until he was about 2 years....maybe slept through the night once or twice. Our 8 month old has maybe slept through twice so far. Didn't know this was unusual...



I didn't know until I was probably 18 years old or so that most people don't wake up 100 times a night.  I always have and probably always will.

A year or so ago I slept the whole night through (at least pretty sure I did)...and I knew when I woke that this was the first time in my life.  It was weird, felt good.

When I was young they said I had slow sleep insomnia, it would take me hours to get to sleep at night, then I would wake often.  Once I started drinking (heavily) it pretty much got rid of that, but I awoke once the buzz started wearing off.  But I still had bouts of insomnia that would last 4-5 days with no sleep.  I don't drink nearly as much anymore and I can get to sleep much easier now, but I still wake probably 30 times a night and occaissionally go 2-3 days w/o sleep...it doesn't really bother me.

/csb
 
2013-02-26 04:05:01 PM

2KanZam: MrPleasant: Huh....first kid would always wake up at least once during the night until he was about 2 years....maybe slept through the night once or twice. Our 8 month old has maybe slept through twice so far. Didn't know this was unusual...


I didn't know until I was probably 18 years old or so that most people don't wake up 100 times a night.  I always have and probably always will.

A year or so ago I slept the whole night through (at least pretty sure I did)...and I knew when I woke that this was the first time in my life.  It was weird, felt good.

When I was young they said I had slow sleep insomnia, it would take me hours to get to sleep at night, then I would wake often.  Once I started drinking (heavily) it pretty much got rid of that, but I awoke once the buzz started wearing off.  But I still had bouts of insomnia that would last 4-5 days with no sleep.  I don't drink nearly as much anymore and I can get to sleep much easier now, but I still wake probably 30 times a night and occaissionally go 2-3 days w/o sleep...it doesn't really bother me.

/csb


Please go get a sleep study done. Sleep apnea and other sleep disorders can kill.
 
2013-02-26 04:32:57 PM

roc6783: Petey4335: Haley Rivera hasn't slept through the night since she was born 18 months ago.
Neither has her mom or dad.

Well that is bad parenting.  Coffee for one; tiny ear plugs for the other and switch every couple nights.

My daughter is almost 10 months, has only once slept through the night*, and is usually up 4+ times between 8 pm and 8 am.  She usually naps for 90 minutes in the morning (around 10 am), then about 30-60 (around 3 pm).  We have tried every suggestion short of providing her alcohol and letting her just cry until she passes out (she stands in her crib and cries longer than the 20 minutes our pediatrician recommended letting her go for).

The worst part is that, 9 of 10 times, when I go in to get her (and I have been since she was born) she just continues scream and cry until my wife comes and gets her.  She used to wake up, then could be put back down in a few minutes.  Her newest trick is to fall asleep while being held, then waking up as we are putting her into the crib, taking another 15 minutes to fall asleep, then repeating the process.  At this point we are completely out of options, and our doctor's response has been, "Yup, sometimes kids just don't sleep, sucks to be you and hopefully she grows out of it."

I would be grateful to be able to wake up and trade nights with my wife, but unfortunately, our daughter does not agree.  Also, drinking more than one cup of coffee a day is a no go for her as she is breastfeeding, not that she drinks coffee, but she will drink an occasional soda.

Last time there was a thread on baby sleep, I got several helpful suggestions from other Farkers, but not one worked.  At this point, TFA makes me wonder if I should demand a referral to get her sleep tested as her pediatrician has nothing helpful to offer.

*The day she was born, she slept for 23 out of her first 24 hours, even eating while asleep.


I would get the sleep study done (I didn't realize they could do it on such young kids) and get a complete allergy workup done (food, environment, etc). That milk allergy and acid reflux might be something to look into.

Since your wife is breastfeeding and I'm not sure if she's on solid food you could start taking probiotics to help with a colic or GI issue.

What you have to do now really is just keep a detailed diary of kiddo's day "Fed at 11am, Slept at 12, Cried at 1 in living room" and hope some pattern emerges.

If her sleep cycle is 2 hour intervals all day, you'll have to change her sleep cycle by keeping her awake so she syncs up with a much more normal sleep cycle. As a baby I would sleep all day and stay up all night, my parents had to switch me. My Dad even would pinch me to make sure I stayed awake.
 
2013-02-26 07:16:57 PM

busy chillin': skullkrusher: our baby sleeps 12 hours a night and has since he was about 5 weeks old. We have friends who have had the opposite experience. I don't know how the hell they do it

Lucky.

I have an 8 month that has only slept through the night about 3 times. He was getting better last week than got another tooth. And runny nose. Oh well...I always remind myself it could be much much worse. But yeah, I am ready for him to sleep through the night.


Our daughter is 14 months, still wakes (us) up every 2 hours or so.  I'm very thankful that I'm self-employed ;)
 
2013-02-26 07:29:44 PM

StaleCoffee: Our first son did that. For the first year of his life he didn't sleep more than 45 minutes at a time. The sleep deprivation was incredibly debilitating and painful. He didn't sleep through the night for the first time until he was 6 and we were dosing him with 9mg of melatonin per a neurologist. He still has sleep issues at age 10. He would stay up until 3 am reading if we let him, and sometimes we do just because we need to go to sleep without the argument, but he *needs* to sleep sometimes so just about every night is a battle.

Our younger son, age 6, will generally just drop off like a stone then roll out of bed in the morning without an issue.

It's hard not to sneer at parents who think their kids sleep great because they did something magical and amazing in the discipline department.  Sometimes this shiat is just something that people have to suffer through for years in order to get their kids safely to adulthood as capable, self sufficient human beings.


FWIW, when I was going through hell when my son refused to sleep through the night, I read that the lack of a need for sleep in kids was a sign of high intelligence.  Since mine has consistently tested in the 99th percentile and is currently in the top 1% of his high school class, without even trying, I'm going to go with "wow that must be true!".
 
2013-02-26 08:36:16 PM
Oy, I can't read all these, but I wonder why allergies were not considered? My niece did not sleep more than a couple hours at a time her first year or so, and it turned out she was allergic to cow's milk. Her mother did not give her any; she was a breast fed baby. It turned out that some enzyme in the milk her MOTHER drank was getting through in the breast milk. Bizarre. Once they figured that out, no more problems. As an adult, my niece has no allergy whatsoever to milk, either. Weird.
 
2013-02-27 03:15:50 PM

shortymac: Please go get a sleep study done. Sleep apnea and other sleep disorders can kill.



I do not have sleep apnea...

...it's more like I can't turn my brain off....and I sleep so lightly that I wake to a mouse fart in the next county.
 
2013-02-27 09:08:52 PM

2KanZam: shortymac: Please go get a sleep study done. Sleep apnea and other sleep disorders can kill.


I do not have sleep apnea...

...it's more like I can't turn my brain off....and I sleep so lightly that I wake to a mouse fart in the next county.


than I'm guessing ADD then. This thread solidified my theory that ADD people have sleep issues.
 
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