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(Huffington Post)   Montana GOP county chairwoman posts picture of a cardboard box trap from a "plot to kidnap the president," with watermelon as bait. But don't you dare call them racist   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 38
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2013-02-25 01:37:56 PM
6 votes:
Oh Big Sky country. You know, racist jokes are a whole lot funnier when you live in the center of a heavily multicultural area where we deal with everyday foibles and ethnic generalities, celebrating differences and laughing at false assumptions, together, as a multicultural community.

When everyone is white, you just look racist.

And when you blame hackers, it makes you look stupid.
2013-02-25 02:02:18 PM
5 votes:
ISOLATED INCIDENT #2,354.
2013-02-25 01:52:34 PM
4 votes:
It's amazing to me how many dyed-in-the-wool racists you can have on your side while still denying that your platform is racist.
2013-02-25 05:24:41 PM
3 votes:

randomjsa: Why yes, that is racist.

Were you looking for some "proof" that there are racist Republicans? I'm sorry, did you miss the memo that told you racists exist all across the political spectrum?


Liberal farks up.  Liberal response: "Yeah, that was stupid and they shouldn't have done that."

Conservative farks up.  Conservative response:  "OMG liberals are just as bad!  You're trying to blame a whole group for one isolated incident!   You guys are the real farkups!"

You and colon_pow and your ilk could really help your cause if you'd just farking admit wrong sometime.  No one is inclined to take you seriously with the bot-like responses you post.
2013-02-25 06:22:06 PM
2 votes:

ProdigalSigh: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

I didn't know watermelon and fried chicken were a stereotype until someone mentioned it in college.  My reaction was similar, I thought watermelon and fried chicken just sounded like a great summer meal for anyone who could find a good watermelon and had a halfway decent fried chicken recipe.  I had to ask someone and this was roughly the response:

"Fried chicken and watermelon were considered cheap/throwaway foodstuffs at one point in the South, something black people reveled in when they could get it but generally disdained by the aristocratic southerners."  Frankly, I still don't get it, a good fried chicken recipe is treated around here like a good ribs recipe is in other places and the ability to pick the best watermelon is a learned skill if not an innate talent, and a respected one.  But I'm from Indiana, which has deeply racist roots, and almost no black people outside the cities so it gets weird regarding perceptions.

I had the same reaction as Forest Gump did when someone said "coon," the movie was the first time I heard the term used to refer anything other than raccoons.  Same with "Spook" in the movie Sneakers, my thought was "how did they know he was in the CIA (which the character was and I knew was a reference to CIA operatives)?  And why does that piss him off so much?"

In other words, I don't get this.  Can someone else explain it to me?  Is watermelon still so downtrodden?


http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/5-chickwate rm elon/index.html

Enjoy.
2013-02-25 04:15:35 PM
2 votes:

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


Watermelon, yes.

The flavor candy companies claim is watermelon is disgusting.
2013-02-25 04:15:29 PM
2 votes:
Extra silliness because watermelon's a southern food and the president's from Hawaii and then Illinois.

//Also, it's delicious, and you can spike it with vodka with relative ease.
2013-02-25 04:13:56 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: St_Francis_P: Rev.K: Hey Libbos,

You go looking for racism and you'll find it anywhere.

Great smear job. Again.

Ain't that the truth. That could have been a bucket of fried chicken in there, and the libs would still cry racism.

Why not both?

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I see it every day on my way to work.  It's in Central City in New Orleans.


Holy crap.  I rarely go uptown, but still, how have I missed that?

10 pc chicken for 6.95?  AND watermelon punch to wash it down?  Stereotypes shmereotypes; shut up and take my money.
2013-02-25 03:54:04 PM
2 votes:

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


I lurve me some watermelon.

One of the best parts of being a white guy is being able to enjoy fried chicken or watermelon in public without worrying about whether I'm perpetuating some sort of stereotype.
2013-02-25 03:21:49 PM
2 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: mrshowrules: Ambivalence: The cat traps are working.

That's catist.

Is that considered a feliney?


at minimum purrjury.
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2013-02-25 02:29:03 PM
2 votes:

Diogenes: Earguy: One could argue that it is a statement of how stupid the "trapper" is. Poking fun at the redneck.

That sort of humor is very had to pull off.  Double edged sword - you can't control how or why people will laugh.  For every person who laughed at Archie Bunker because he was a caricature of a racist, there was a person who laughed because they agreed with him.


Not to mention that poliicians aren't likely to be mocking their base.

And these were popular in 1972:
www.tvtoymemories.com
2013-02-25 01:50:48 PM
2 votes:
Who doesn't like watermelon?
2013-02-25 08:32:59 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: That is why I wish certain details were omitted from history classes.


As long as you get to decide what to omit, right?
2013-02-25 08:24:00 PM
1 votes:

ProdigalSigh: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

I didn't know watermelon and fried chicken were a stereotype until someone mentioned it in college.  My reaction was similar, I thought watermelon and fried chicken just sounded like a great summer meal for anyone who could find a good watermelon and had a halfway decent fried chicken recipe.  I had to ask someone and this was roughly the response:

"Fried chicken and watermelon were considered cheap/throwaway foodstuffs at one point in the South, something black people reveled in when they could get it but generally disdained by the aristocratic southerners."  Frankly, I still don't get it, a good fried chicken recipe is treated around here like a good ribs recipe is in other places and the ability to pick the best watermelon is a learned skill if not an innate talent, and a respected one.  But I'm from Indiana, which has deeply racist roots, and almost no black people outside the cities so it gets weird regarding perceptions.

I had the same reaction as Forest Gump did when someone said "coon," the movie was the first time I heard the term used to refer anything other than raccoons.  Same with "Spook" in the movie Sneakers, my thought was "how did they know he was in the CIA (which the character was and I knew was a reference to CIA operatives)?  And why does that piss him off so much?"

In other words, I don't get this.  Can someone else explain it to me?  Is watermelon still so downtrodden?


Any word, when frequently used with intent to insult, becomes an insult.  Boy, coon, spook, gay, retard...  Any thing regularly used to insult or inspire fear becomes an object of fear and a source of insult.  White hoods, crosses, hangman's nooses, watermelons, fried chicken...

It is the memory of insult and terror, handed down through generations, that makes words and things taboo long after they are not used to insult or terrorize.

A dog regularly beaten with a tennis racket will always cringe around tennis rackets.  Puppies will learn their dam's fear of tennis rackets. When such a puppy grows up, it will bite tennis players who mean it no harm.  Then the dog will be killed.

That is why I wish certain details were omitted from history classes.
2013-02-25 05:58:03 PM
1 votes:
Come on, GOP.
You don't even know if Kenyans like watermelon like southern Blacks do. You already know what will catch Obama.

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2013-02-25 05:45:20 PM
1 votes:

MyEnamine: what_now: Fun fact: When you spike watermelon with gin, you make decisions that land you in a walking cast for three months.

Spiking watermelon is fine and all, but please don't use gin. When prohibition ended they erred in not keeping that vile shiat illegal.


It's like drinking a freaking Christmas Tree. My whole family would have to die in a fiery wreck before I'd be depressed enough to drink that shiat.
2013-02-25 05:39:03 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: randomjsa: Why yes, that is racist.

Were you looking for some "proof" that there are racist Republicans? I'm sorry, did you miss the memo that told you racists exist all across the political spectrum?

Liberal farks up.  Liberal response: "Yeah, that was stupid and they shouldn't have done that."

Conservative farks up.  Conservative response:  "OMG liberals are just as bad!  You're trying to blame a whole group for one isolated incident!   You guys are the real farkups!"

You and colon_pow and your ilk could really help your cause if you'd just farking admit wrong sometime.  No one is inclined to take you seriously with the bot-like responses you post.


ok.  it was a dumb farking thing for that person to do.  not even funny.
2013-02-25 05:38:28 PM
1 votes:
I love when Republicans get all high and mighty when Democrats call foul ... "Who, me?! Never!"

I'm a white man living in the Midwest.The amount of sexism and racism I hear on a daily basis would blow most minorities and women's minds.
2013-02-25 05:33:37 PM
1 votes:
How offensive of us to point out your naked racism, Republicans.  Shame on us.  Shame on us.
2013-02-25 05:19:20 PM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy

It's basically 99% water, so it is pretty refreshing on a hot day.  But yeah, I am pretty meh about it compared to other fruit choices.

Now, fried chicken on the other hand....

/The other black guy on Fark



Chicken?  Now you're getting me hungry, and I just ate.

/Another black guy on Fark
2013-02-25 05:15:38 PM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy


It's basically 99% water, so it is pretty refreshing on a hot day.  But yeah, I am pretty meh about it compared to other fruit choices.

Now, fried chicken on the other hand....

/The other black guy on Fark
2013-02-25 05:14:54 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Why yes, that is racist.

Were you looking for some "proof" that there are racist Republicans? I'm sorry, did you miss the memo that told you racists exist all across the political spectrum?


I don't recall anyone asking if it was racist or asking about proof of racist. Intelligent people saw something that was wrong and commented on it. Others, such as yourself, immediately went in to defend it. Congrats.
2013-02-25 05:12:44 PM
1 votes:

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy
2013-02-25 05:10:10 PM
1 votes:

mjjt: If you think that's politically incorrect, Gary Larsen might like a word ...

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I see we've reached the point in the thread where we pretend we don't know about common stereotypes.
2013-02-25 04:54:31 PM
1 votes:
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2013-02-25 04:39:14 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: ISOLATED INCIDENT #2,354,655,438.


You're missing a few digits there, buddy.  Let me fix that for you.
2013-02-25 04:36:59 PM
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: I've always been unclear on how an honest to god seedless watermelon would propogate.


Seedless watermelons can't be propagated.  They are a hybrid of normal diploid (2n) and Colchicine treated polyploid (4n) parents.  The triploid (3n) seedless plant can be pollinated by a (2n) plant to produce fruit, but ova don't develop inside the translucent seed hulls.

In order to get seedless watermelons, we have to continue growing the seeded kind and cross pollinating (and forced mutating) them each generation.  There isn't an independent strain of seedless watermelons.

HTH
2013-02-25 04:33:27 PM
1 votes:

what_now: I understand that this is racist, but I don't know the etymology of the slur? I personally love watermelon, and I'm whiter than Colombian bam bam.

And oh yeah- this is why people hate you, GOP.


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071214150315AAZuaRV

Poor blacks in the south had to eat whatever was convenient & less expensive-watermelon bc its easy to grow & chicken is a lot cheaper than beef or pork. Its also a little easier to raise chickens. The habit of eating chitlins (pig intestines) came out of these conditions too & eating fried foods overall. You don't need an oven to bake just a stove top is used for frying. Funny thing is, poor white southerners ate/eat the same way-who do they think we got our eating habits from? Butppl just loovvvve stereotypes so there you go. I'm surprised you haven't heard about it. I had a tutor who's Indonesian who asked me why black ppl love watermelon so much. Seriously.
2013-02-25 04:28:22 PM
1 votes:
Replace that watermelon with a naked young boy and you've got a trap to catch GOP fundies.
2013-02-25 04:26:38 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: what_now: Fun fact: When you spike watermelon with gin, you make decisions that land you in a walking cast for three months.

did you actually like pour a bottle of gin into a watermelon?

we did that at a house party once, and my sister's dog ended up eating most of it


Every year, I go camping with my friend Sara, a sh*t ton of beer, and a watermelon named Nancy (see profile photo). A few years ago, instead of eating or hatcheting Nancy, we decided to soak Nancy in some off brand Cape cod gin.

Then we decided to play on a rope swing, and the rest is torn ligament.
2013-02-25 04:21:46 PM
1 votes:

what_now: I understand that this is racist, but I don't know the etymology of the slur? I personally love watermelon, and I'm whiter than Colombian bam bam.

And oh yeah- this is why people hate you, GOP.


I went into this on reddit earlier, so I'll repeat myself now.

It comes from a deliberate effort to portray black people as simple and easy to please; a low-maintenance sort of housepet. It was used to justify slavery - give them a watermelon and look how happy they are!
It's actually very insidious imagery.

This article covers the themes in the imagery in a visual manner.  This linked articlegoes further in depth into the stereotype.
2013-02-25 04:20:36 PM
1 votes:
The racism, at this point, isn't the real story.  The pants-on-head stupidity is the story.
2013-02-25 04:15:53 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: Earguy: One could argue that it is a statement of how stupid the "trapper" is. Poking fun at the redneck.

Naw, that's racist.

That sort of humor is very had to pull off.  Double edged sword - you can't control how or why people will laugh.  For every person who laughed at Archie Bunker because he was a caricature of a racist, there was a person who laughed because they agreed with him.


Dave Chapelle implied that this is the reason he ended Chapelle's Show
2013-02-25 04:14:08 PM
1 votes:
I understand that this is racist, but I don't know the etymology of the slur? I personally love watermelon, and I'm whiter than Colombian bam bam.

And oh yeah- this is why people hate you, GOP.
2013-02-25 03:20:51 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes: Earguy: One could argue that it is a statement of how stupid the "trapper" is. Poking fun at the redneck.

Naw, that's racist.

That sort of humor is very had to pull off.  Double edged sword - you can't control how or why people will laugh.  For every person who laughed at Archie Bunker because he was a caricature of a racist, there was a person who laughed because they agreed with him.


Bill Cosby said the same thing.  He didn't like it because the character was still likable.  I'm not sure.  In the end the character was a joke, and he was archetype that was useful in identifying people that were ignorant/bigoted.  I had a racist Uncle that we would call Archie (he even looked like him).  He was very insulted.

If you shine a light on something even if it is with humour, it reveals a truth.  We must always see the hate and evil of bigotry but we must also see them as pathetic as the racist Uncle we have.  To pretend likable people and people we know can't be bigots, is not useful.
2013-02-25 03:19:01 PM
1 votes:

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


In all honesty, I farking HATE watermelon. The flavor, the smell, everything.
2013-02-25 02:35:58 PM
1 votes:

Rev.K: Hey Libbos,

You go looking for racism and you'll find it anywhere.

Great smear job. Again.


Ain't that the truth. That could have been a bucket of fried chicken in there, and the libs would still cry racism.
2013-02-25 02:11:41 PM
1 votes:

Earguy: One could argue that it is a statement of how stupid the "trapper" is. Poking fun at the redneck.

Naw, that's racist.


That sort of humor is very had to pull off.  Double edged sword - you can't control how or why people will laugh.  For every person who laughed at Archie Bunker because he was a caricature of a racist, there was a person who laughed because they agreed with him.
 
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