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2013-02-25 05:33:39 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.


I like the crunch of a ripe watermelon. While it doesn't have much of a flavor, it is sweet, and that's good enough for me.
 
2013-02-25 05:34:57 PM  

gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Fark out of here. There are three of us??

Huh.  With that many of us here I'm surprised the white flight hasn't kicked in.



Don't make any sudden moves.  We might scare 'em.
 
2013-02-25 05:35:45 PM  

HeartBurnKid: mjjt: If you think that's politically incorrect, Gary Larsen might like a word ...

[i47.tinypic.com image 691x900]

I see we've reached the point in the thread where we pretend we don't know about common stereotypes.


Oh,  everyone knows the stereotypes about racist Republicans, hypocritical Christians, macho latent homosexuals, and sociopathic rich people.
 
2013-02-25 05:37:53 PM  
Once again.  All racists are republicans but not all republicans are racists.
 
2013-02-25 05:38:28 PM  
I love when Republicans get all high and mighty when Democrats call foul ... "Who, me?! Never!"

I'm a white man living in the Midwest.The amount of sexism and racism I hear on a daily basis would blow most minorities and women's minds.
 
2013-02-25 05:39:03 PM  

Diogenes: randomjsa: Why yes, that is racist.

Were you looking for some "proof" that there are racist Republicans? I'm sorry, did you miss the memo that told you racists exist all across the political spectrum?

Liberal farks up.  Liberal response: "Yeah, that was stupid and they shouldn't have done that."

Conservative farks up.  Conservative response:  "OMG liberals are just as bad!  You're trying to blame a whole group for one isolated incident!   You guys are the real farkups!"

You and colon_pow and your ilk could really help your cause if you'd just farking admit wrong sometime.  No one is inclined to take you seriously with the bot-like responses you post.


ok.  it was a dumb farking thing for that person to do.  not even funny.
 
2013-02-25 05:40:04 PM  

gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Fark out of here. There are three of us??

Huh.  With that many of us here I'm surprised the white flight hasn't kicked in.


Screw this! I'm moving to Redit!
 
2013-02-25 05:40:33 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I've always been unclear on how an honest to god seedless watermelon would propogate.


They recruit normal watermelons into their sinful lifestyle.
 
2013-02-25 05:42:19 PM  

Diogenes: Earguy: One could argue that it is a statement of how stupid the "trapper" is. Poking fun at the redneck.

Naw, that's racist.

That sort of humor is very had to pull off.  Double edged sword - you can't control how or why people will laugh.  For every person who laughed at Archie Bunker because he was a caricature of a racist, there was a person who laughed because they agreed with him.


Yeah, Warren Mitchell (who played Alf Garnet, the UK version of Archie Bunker) used to regularly get people coming up to him in the street congratulating him on still being the one person on TV to "tell it like it is".
 
2013-02-25 05:43:31 PM  

Lane83: Uchiha_Cycliste: I've always been unclear on how an honest to god seedless watermelon would propogate.

They recruit normal watermelons into their sinful lifestyle.



Seceedsexuals?

/Got nuthin'
 
2013-02-25 05:45:20 PM  

MyEnamine: what_now: Fun fact: When you spike watermelon with gin, you make decisions that land you in a walking cast for three months.

Spiking watermelon is fine and all, but please don't use gin. When prohibition ended they erred in not keeping that vile shiat illegal.


It's like drinking a freaking Christmas Tree. My whole family would have to die in a fiery wreck before I'd be depressed enough to drink that shiat.
 
2013-02-25 05:46:24 PM  
I've seen some pretty crazy shiat on Fark... but people who hate watermelon!?

Damn, that's farked up.
 
2013-02-25 05:47:32 PM  

Mikey1969: MyEnamine: what_now: Fun fact: When you spike watermelon with gin, you make decisions that land you in a walking cast for three months.

Spiking watermelon is fine and all, but please don't use gin. When prohibition ended they erred in not keeping that vile shiat illegal.

It's like drinking a freaking Christmas Tree. My whole family would have to die in a fiery wreck before I'd be depressed enough to drink that shiat.


It's true then: Not every farker will get Tanq-ed.
 
2013-02-25 05:49:20 PM  

RedTank: Once again.  All racists are republicans but not all republicans are racists.


Sadly, this isn't true. One of the reasons why Hillary Clinton did better than Obama in places like West Virginia is that there were a significant number of racist Democrats who were unwilling to vote for a black candidate. Chuck Todd, I think, had some horrifying footage of some of these folks that I saw at the time. Watching it made me embarrassed to be human.
 
2013-02-25 05:53:32 PM  

Rev.K: timujin: Are you stupid or just trolling? It's not racist? Then perhaps the Republican Party folks would have said something to that effect, "Nothing to see here, move along" instead of "hey, that's racist and we don't condone it".

[i.adultswim.com image 280x210]

"I'm just messin' with ya' man".


Ah, good.  Poe's Law, man, it's getting harder and harder to tell.
 
2013-02-25 05:55:42 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Jackson Herring: so what you are saying is they f*ck

Only because their parents have forbidden them to marry and they can't elope.


That pun's a honey. Do you have any more?
 
2013-02-25 05:56:36 PM  

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


Seriously!

And some of my BEST FRIENDS like fried chicken!
 
2013-02-25 05:57:30 PM  

Mikey1969: MyEnamine: what_now: Fun fact: When you spike watermelon with gin, you make decisions that land you in a walking cast for three months.

Spiking watermelon is fine and all, but please don't use gin. When prohibition ended they erred in not keeping that vile shiat illegal.

It's like drinking a freaking Christmas Tree. My whole family would have to die in a fiery wreck before I'd be depressed enough to drink that shiat.


I keep a bottle around in case I spill some paint but yeah, shiats undrinkable.

/Beer guy.
//Well, vodak too I suppose.
///Whiskey is good sometimes too.
////Can't forget about rum either.
//I'll stop now.
 
2013-02-25 05:58:03 PM  
Come on, GOP.
You don't even know if Kenyans like watermelon like southern Blacks do. You already know what will catch Obama.

img707.imageshack.us
 
2013-02-25 06:00:59 PM  
img707.imageshack.us

/back at ya
 
2013-02-25 06:01:34 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: Come on, GOP.
You don't even know if Kenyans like watermelon like southern Blacks do. You already know what will catch Obama.

[img707.imageshack.us image 491x521]


oh snap!
 
2013-02-25 06:04:26 PM  
HURR most people are critical of Obama's policies don't like him because he's steering this country in the wrong direction just to raise yer taxes not because he's black hurrr we should have voter ID laws.
 
2013-02-25 06:09:01 PM  

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


I'm allergic to it.
 
2013-02-25 06:14:10 PM  

whidbey: HURR most people are critical of Obama's policies don't like him because he's steering this country in the wrong direction just to raise yer taxes not because he's black hurrr we should have voter ID laws.


But what about the FEMA camps? ;)
 
2013-02-25 06:14:53 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Rann Xerox: gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy

It's basically 99% water, so it is pretty refreshing on a hot day.  But yeah, I am pretty meh about it compared to other fruit choices.

Now, fried chicken on the other hand....

/The other black guy on Fark


Chicken?  Now you're getting me hungry, and I just ate.

/Another black guy on Fark

Fark out of here. There are three of us??


I'm gonna need yoiu fellas to put your hands on the wall. Can you tell me what you're doing in this neighborhood? You fellas match the description from an earlier complaint. Got any warrants?
 
2013-02-25 06:15:46 PM  

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


I didn't know watermelon and fried chicken were a stereotype until someone mentioned it in college.  My reaction was similar, I thought watermelon and fried chicken just sounded like a great summer meal for anyone who could find a good watermelon and had a halfway decent fried chicken recipe.  I had to ask someone and this was roughly the response:

"Fried chicken and watermelon were considered cheap/throwaway foodstuffs at one point in the South, something black people reveled in when they could get it but generally disdained by the aristocratic southerners."  Frankly, I still don't get it, a good fried chicken recipe is treated around here like a good ribs recipe is in other places and the ability to pick the best watermelon is a learned skill if not an innate talent, and a respected one.  But I'm from Indiana, which has deeply racist roots, and almost no black people outside the cities so it gets weird regarding perceptions.

I had the same reaction as Forest Gump did when someone said "coon," the movie was the first time I heard the term used to refer anything other than raccoons.  Same with "Spook" in the movie Sneakers, my thought was "how did they know he was in the CIA (which the character was and I knew was a reference to CIA operatives)?  And why does that piss him off so much?"

In other words, I don't get this.  Can someone else explain it to me?  Is watermelon still so downtrodden?
 
2013-02-25 06:17:23 PM  
Get over yourselves. This has absolutely nothing to do with the President. This trap could snare anyone; any and all, blah, people.
 
2013-02-25 06:18:13 PM  
I live in a Black neighborhood in Memphis, and the supermarket up the street sells a ton of watermelons and chicken and collard greens and hog jowls. Also Miracle Whip.

Explain that, stereotype!
 
2013-02-25 06:21:52 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I've always been unclear on how an honest to god seedless watermelon would propogate.


So when you smoke homegrown, it isn't really HOMEgrown?
 
2013-02-25 06:22:06 PM  

ProdigalSigh: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

I didn't know watermelon and fried chicken were a stereotype until someone mentioned it in college.  My reaction was similar, I thought watermelon and fried chicken just sounded like a great summer meal for anyone who could find a good watermelon and had a halfway decent fried chicken recipe.  I had to ask someone and this was roughly the response:

"Fried chicken and watermelon were considered cheap/throwaway foodstuffs at one point in the South, something black people reveled in when they could get it but generally disdained by the aristocratic southerners."  Frankly, I still don't get it, a good fried chicken recipe is treated around here like a good ribs recipe is in other places and the ability to pick the best watermelon is a learned skill if not an innate talent, and a respected one.  But I'm from Indiana, which has deeply racist roots, and almost no black people outside the cities so it gets weird regarding perceptions.

I had the same reaction as Forest Gump did when someone said "coon," the movie was the first time I heard the term used to refer anything other than raccoons.  Same with "Spook" in the movie Sneakers, my thought was "how did they know he was in the CIA (which the character was and I knew was a reference to CIA operatives)?  And why does that piss him off so much?"

In other words, I don't get this.  Can someone else explain it to me?  Is watermelon still so downtrodden?


http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/5-chickwate rm elon/index.html

Enjoy.
 
2013-02-25 06:25:14 PM  

MyEnamine: what_now: Fun fact: When you spike watermelon with gin, you make decisions that land you in a walking cast for three months.

Spiking watermelon is fine and all, but please don't use gin. When prohibition ended they erred in not keeping that vile shiat illegal.


Yeah, I use vodka in watermelons. I once took one to a party and we didn't get around to it, but the host said the next morning her yard was filled with drunken birds.
 
2013-02-25 06:32:40 PM  
Oh. We are back to one example proves the party thing.

Jesse Jackson Jr.

Thanks.
 
2013-02-25 06:35:54 PM  
MyRandomName: Oh. We are back to one example proves the party thing.

Jesse Jackson Jr

.Thanks.


Oh no, this is one data point among many that proves the party thing.
 
2013-02-25 06:36:06 PM  

Ed Grubermann: AeAe: News Flash:  some Republicans are racist.

/FTFY
//If the behavior of modern Republicans is anything to go by.


I don't think so, man.. That's too broad a brush and if true, then the country is farked.
 
2013-02-25 06:39:05 PM  
Why wouldn't we call Republicans racist? The vast majority of them  are racist. At this point the words Republican and racist are synonymous.

All you have to do is talk to one... they'll 'test the waters' soon enough to see if it's "safe" to say racist crap to you.
 
2013-02-25 06:48:06 PM  

Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?


Me. I'm not fond of melons in general, plus I'm a bit allergic to them.
 
2013-02-25 06:51:56 PM  

AeAe: Ed Grubermann: AeAe: News Flash:  some Republicans are racist.

/FTFY
//If the behavior of modern Republicans is anything to go by.

I don't think so, man.. That's too broad a brush and if true, then the country is farked.


Haven't
you
been
paying
any
attention?

At all?
 
2013-02-25 06:52:01 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy


Holy crap, you need to find someone who's growing a decent variety.

I kinda felt the same about melon (although I liked watermelon, but wasn't crazy about it), then we grew both.  Holy.  Crap.  And ours didn't even get terribly large  Heavenly.

www.bonappetit.com
 
2013-02-25 06:54:38 PM  

Lsherm: St_Francis_P: Somacandra: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

In all honesty, I farking HATE watermelon. The flavor, the smell, everything.

Yeah, me too. I thought I was the only one.

Thirded.  I've been on a pineapple kick lately.  I forgot how much I like it, especially the center part.  It's like eating sugared wood.


...I hate you.

/Fresh pineapple is amazing
//And too farking expensive
///And now I want pineapple
 
2013-02-25 06:54:43 PM  
So has anyone been able to further determine if this is legit?  Has she fessed up? Has anyone else corroborated this?

Not that I would be surprised in the least, but if she's denying this, I like to make sure all my ducks are in a row before I spread the info.
 
2013-02-25 06:55:45 PM  

ultraholland: MyRandomName: Oh. We are back to one example proves the party thing.

Jesse Jackson Jr

.Thanks.

Oh no, this is one data point among many that proves the party thing.


Yep.  This is not an exception-proves-the-rule, I think.

Although I know there are some folks fighting the good fight to bring the party to some sort of sanity (see thread above).  But the zealots in the party?  Yeah.
 
2013-02-25 07:01:03 PM  

PsiChick: Lsherm: St_Francis_P: Somacandra: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

In all honesty, I farking HATE watermelon. The flavor, the smell, everything.

Yeah, me too. I thought I was the only one.

Thirded.  I've been on a pineapple kick lately.  I forgot how much I like it, especially the center part.  It's like eating sugared wood.

...I hate you.

/Fresh pineapple is amazing
//And too farking expensive
///And now I want pineapple


what?  It's like $2.99 at the Costco.
 
2013-02-25 07:01:34 PM  

KhamanV: what_now: I understand that this is racist, but I don't know the etymology of the slur? I personally love watermelon, and I'm whiter than Colombian bam bam.

And oh yeah- this is why people hate you, GOP.

I went into this on reddit earlier, so I'll repeat myself now.

It comes from a deliberate effort to portray black people as simple and easy to please; a low-maintenance sort of housepet. It was used to justify slavery - give them a watermelon and look how happy they are!
It's actually very insidious imagery.

This article covers the themes in the imagery in a visual manner.  This linked articlegoes further in depth into the stereotype.


This was informative.  Thanks.

/white person who had an *idea* why it was offensive, but who was never really quite clear on it
//also making a mental note to include a variety of garden fruits and veggies to offer the African-American neighbors from the garden *with* the watermelon we're gonna grow to minimize possible awkwardness
///the watermelon was fan-f--king-tastic the last two years, gotta share the awesome
 
2013-02-25 07:06:13 PM  

AeAe: PsiChick: Lsherm: St_Francis_P: Somacandra: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

In all honesty, I farking HATE watermelon. The flavor, the smell, everything.

Yeah, me too. I thought I was the only one.

Thirded.  I've been on a pineapple kick lately.  I forgot how much I like it, especially the center part.  It's like eating sugared wood.

...I hate you.

/Fresh pineapple is amazing
//And too farking expensive
///And now I want pineapple

what?  It's like $2.99 at the Costco.


I have no idea what it is here, but I'd figure California would have the cheaper pineapple prices in the contiguous 48.  Location and all.  (Shrug).

/my Mom burned her mouth from eating too much pineapple on their honeymoon trip to Hawaii
//I think she just told that story every damn time she bought us pineapple so my brother and I wouldn't destroy it on our own, but come on, Mom
///pointless post is pointless
 
2013-02-25 07:08:00 PM  

AeAe: PsiChick: Lsherm: St_Francis_P: Somacandra: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

In all honesty, I farking HATE watermelon. The flavor, the smell, everything.

Yeah, me too. I thought I was the only one.

Thirded.  I've been on a pineapple kick lately.  I forgot how much I like it, especially the center part.  It's like eating sugared wood.

...I hate you.

/Fresh pineapple is amazing
//And too farking expensive
///And now I want pineapple

what?  It's like $2.99 at the Costco.


NV. Our prices go higher since we have to ship everything from CA.

/I am going to check that, though...
 
2013-02-25 07:10:04 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I kinda felt the same about melon (although I liked watermelon, but wasn't crazy about it), then we grew both.  Holy.  Crap.  And ours didn't even get terribly large  Heavenly.


I find that all the fruits and vegetables we grow taste a LOT better than commercially grown produce. Homegrown watermelon is so delicious. :)
 
2013-02-25 07:10:28 PM  

gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Fark out of here. There are three of us??

Huh.  With that many of us here I'm surprised the white flight hasn't kicked in.


I can feel the property values of my pixels lowering already.
 
2013-02-25 07:12:30 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Rann Xerox: gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy

It's basically 99% water, so it is pretty refreshing on a hot day.  But yeah, I am pretty meh about it compared to other fruit choices.

Now, fried chicken on the other hand....

/The other black guy on Fark


Chicken?  Now you're getting me hungry, and I just ate.

/Another black guy on Fark

Fark out of here. There are three of us??


There goes the neighborhood

/i keed (don't shoot me)
 
2013-02-25 07:23:19 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: DROxINxTHExWIND: Rann Xerox: gilgigamesh: DROxINxTHExWIND: Honest Bender: Who doesn't like watermelon?

Me. It doesn't have a taste.

/black guy

It's basically 99% water, so it is pretty refreshing on a hot day.  But yeah, I am pretty meh about it compared to other fruit choices.

Now, fried chicken on the other hand....

/The other black guy on Fark


Chicken?  Now you're getting me hungry, and I just ate.

/Another black guy on Fark

Fark out of here. There are three of us??

There goes the neighborhood

/i keed (don't shoot me)


It's okay!  My boyfriend and I have *lots* of black friends!

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/testimonials.html

So I ended up seeing this video from the watermelon explaination site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ylPUzxpIBe0# !

And it's kind of depressing.  The first site is old as hell as far as the internet goes, at this point, but everything changes and everything remains the same.

From the site:
Johnny isn't afraid to show he has a black friend because whenever he sees me in the hall he asks me Waaaazzzuup.

 Change Waazzzzup to Hollllleeerr! and there it is.


Sigh.
 
2013-02-25 07:24:37 PM  
"Ninjas Racists have kidnapped the President! Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the President?"
 
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