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(National Journal)   It's the darndest thing, but somehow, after a decade of treating the most innocent hackers as dangerous felons, the US finds itself with a terrible shortage of cybersecurity experts to help it fight off new IT attacks by foreign cyber-criminals   ( nationaljournal.com) divider line
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2013-02-25 03:10:03 PM  
4 votes:

EvilEgg: There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.


I have hacked many many devices.  And they were all mine.  But you are correct, I am hardly "innocent", especially considering what I did to Becky Turner back in high school.
2013-02-25 04:51:20 PM  
3 votes:
anfrind:


CSB: when I was in high school (class of 2002), my school purchased a bunch of new computers running Windows 98 and a third-party security program called Fortres, to keep students from doing anything they shouldn't do. It was a terrible security program, not so much because it was easy to disable, but because it made a lot of basic tasks (like accessing a floppy disk or a CD-ROM) nearly impossible.

As a result, when I made a boot floppy that could automatically "patch" any of those computers so that Fortres couldn't run (and thus the computer would work like a standard Windows 98 PC), a lot of teachers were actually quite happy to have it. The school's IT guy wasn't so happy, but he didn't freak out over it.


Also a CSB:

In the late 80's I ran the computer labs at a small college, and shared an office with two hardware techies. During the summer we tended to have a lot of time on our hands, so of course we used it to mess with each other... Stupid stuff like changing one's desktop to a photoshopped picture of the victim having sex with a horse, or writing a program that randomized all the colors on their desktop.

One of the techies decided to install a "fortress" type program to lock us out of his machine, which would have been fine except he still kept messing with ours. That would not stand.

We (quite justifiably) argued that he had to give us access to the terminal software on his machine, since he was the only one with a modem. And then I wrote a little TSR keylogger program, uploaded it to the other tech's BBS, where he renamed it ZMODEM.EXE and we re-downloaded it on to our victim's machine and executed it.

When he came back from a service call and typed in the master password, it was copied to the laser printer by my desk. When he went to lunch we changed his master password to "knobhead" (nod to the BOfH)

We figured we'd let him stew overnight. He genuinely believed that he had forgotten the password, evidently he was changing it daily because he was so paranoid.

The next morning we found out that he had spent all night wiping and rebuilding the machine. Ooops. We never did tell him what happened, but he never did re-install that fortress program.

/ Old CS,B.
2013-02-25 02:46:37 PM  
3 votes:
There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.
2013-02-25 03:10:53 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: EvilEgg: There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.

I have hacked many many devices.  And they were all mine.  But you are correct, I am hardly "innocent", especially considering what I did to Becky Turner back in high school.


go on...
2013-02-25 03:09:37 PM  
2 votes:
Once again the security state screws itself, don't you feel safer?
2013-02-25 08:10:43 PM  
1 vote:

asdfbeau: we appreciate that you've spent the better part of your life working to understand every new system possible, and unlock capabilities that were either overlooked, or intentionally hidden...want to move to VA, DC or MD and spend the rest of your life monitoring 1 system and sending emails to some geriatric type-d when something turns the color red?

all you have to do is pass a polygraph and let us contact anyone who's ever known you



NO! It is sexier than that....black ice and energies of the sixth world and dragons.....
2013-02-25 07:43:06 PM  
1 vote:

KawaiiNot: Whoa. Fark hates binary I guess?


There are 10 kinds of websites in the world...
2013-02-25 06:31:27 PM  
1 vote:

stonicus: I got busted breaking into a local university system back in 1992.  They thought I was changing grades.  I was just playing games and getting on chat rooms.  Wasn't allowed to even own a computer for 3 years.


Hah. That's funny. I walked into one big school's computer lab just to play MUDS, and finally, a monitor came up to me and asked me what school I was in

Without a blink, I said "Divinity"
2013-02-25 04:34:35 PM  
1 vote:
anotherplotdevice.files.wordpress.com
Movies are ruining our kids.
2013-02-25 04:22:01 PM  
1 vote:
This is because most intelligent creative people don't want to work in the imperial security apparatus and those who do can't pass a security clearance investigation and the rest are just half smart authoritarian followers.
2013-02-25 04:18:38 PM  
1 vote:
My GIS foo is weak today, I can't conjure up pic of Steve Dallas in the holding cell with the little twerps.

(Oliver Wendell Jones.jpg)
2013-02-25 03:55:48 PM  
1 vote:

ProfessorOhki: itstehpope: torusXL: EvilEgg: There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.

Can't tell if trolling or pathetic dolt.

I'd go with dolt myself.  Too many people claim to know all about hackers and whatnot but have no idea why I giggle when someone has a voice vlan of 2600...

I know a ton about hackers, man; I even watched that one documentary that had a young Angelina Jolie.


Pfft, go back to defacing your desktop wallpaper, n00b.  Everyone knows that the only true hacker movie is Swordfish.

/Now run home to mommy before I go in over the phone lines, pop the firewall, drop in the hydra and wait for your money to start rolling in.
2013-02-25 03:32:33 PM  
1 vote:

itstehpope: torusXL: EvilEgg: There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.

Can't tell if trolling or pathetic dolt.

I'd go with dolt myself.  Too many people claim to know all about hackers and whatnot but have no idea why I giggle when someone has a voice vlan of 2600...


It's time to come to terms with the fact that you're just a phreak
2013-02-25 03:09:15 PM  
1 vote:

torusXL: EvilEgg: There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.

Can't tell if trolling or pathetic dolt.


"There is no such thing as an "innocent" shooter. Shooting is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government. This is true about many aspects of warfare.
2013-02-25 03:04:16 PM  
1 vote:

EvilEgg: There is no such thing as an "innocent" hacker.  Hacking is illegal, unless you are doing it for the government.  This is true about many aspects of warfare.


Can't tell if trolling or pathetic dolt.
 
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