DeaH: As I noted up-thread, this morning, there several things written about how hard it is to "hate" Jennifer Lawrence. I just kept thinking, "Why do you feel the need to try?"
shut_it_down: YoungLochinvar: Well, I thought it was so obviously a satirical rip on the rampant (and basically socially acceptable) media misogyny that the intent couldn't possibly be missed... but then I read this thread...Yeah, I second that. I thought the outrage was that the use of the c-word was too far when "biatch" may have sufficed. But it appears that most people think the Onion was actually just insulting her for shock value, which is just not what the Onion does.
quickdraw: If the writer had used the N word instead would you still think it was funny? Women don't like the word c*nt for the same reason black people don't the N word, and why Jews don't like anti-Semitic slurs, and why gay people don't like homosexual slurs.Why is this so hard to understand?
quickdraw: shut_it_down: YoungLochinvar: Well, I thought it was so obviously a satirical rip on the rampant (and basically socially acceptable) media misogyny that the intent couldn't possibly be missed... but then I read this thread...Yeah, I second that. I thought the outrage was that the use of the c-word was too far when "biatch" may have sufficed. But it appears that most people think the Onion was actually just insulting her for shock value, which is just not what the Onion does.No, that's not it at all. It doesn't matter why one writer at The Onion thought it was funny. It was an inappropriate joke using an inappropriate word. And yes some words are more offensive than others.If the writer had used the N word instead would you still think it was funny? Women don't like the word c*nt for the same reason black people don't the N word, and why Jews don't like anti-Semitic slurs, and why gay people don't like homosexual slurs.Why is this so hard to understand?
The Great EZE: Question for you and others who are still offended: do you get outraged at TV shows and movies that have characters who say or do awful things to children? Do you demand all your fictional characters be respectful with never a cross word to say to anyone? Because that's all the writer did with that tweet: create a satire character (because it's a satire website, you see) who goes too far with their rage tweeting. It clearly worked. Too bad it somehow caused people to forget the meaning of fiction at the same time.
YoungLochinvar: Qellaqan: DeaH: Qellaqan: MNguy: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.
MaxxLarge: To all the people who are all butthurt over The Onion calling Quvenzhané Wallis a horrible name: You embody The Onion's slogan, "Tu Stultus Es." Or, in English, "You Are Dumb."Please don't misunderstand...I'm not defending them. What they did was in poor taste, no doubt about it. It crossed the line, for sure. But lest we forget - at its best, satire is supposed to do one thing. And that is: hold a mirror up to society, and show it where its warts are. And in calling the least-offensive person on the red carpet (a charming, poised, adorable, talented, and universally-praised 9-year-old) the MOST offensive word that exists, what The Onion was TRYING to do was to make us think.How often do we dismiss some celebrities as being "bad people" without even knowing them? I know some people who claim to not be able to stand Anne Hathaway, or Taylor Swift, or who will not see anything Gwyneth Paltrow does, because they say they "hate" them. Many actresses in particular seem to suffer this kind of stigma. We just judge them so easily. Certain public figures just rub us the wrong way, and that's fine...If irrational, and often misguided.Pointing that out was all The Onion was trying to do. To ask us to consider why we harbor weird prejudices against certain people we don't even know. By calling a beloved young talent by a nasty slur, the goal was the same as if they'd said, "Is it just us, or is Tom Hanks a piece of shiat?"So, yes...What they did was ill-advised, and designed for maximum shock value. As such, feel free to lambaste them if you must. But for fark's sake...At least do it for the right reasons. Not because you were too thick to comprehend the impetus of their intent.
Wyalt Derp: They were only saying what John McCain was thinking.
vernonFL: I thought it was funny. Its satire, and it was making fun of Hollywood and the entertainment industry, not the girl.
Some 'Splainin' To Do: This kind of humor is tricky.When it works, it's because what was being said was so outrageous that the audience is in on the joke. The humor is that both parties realize that what was said was ridiculous.Unfortunately, at 140 characters of text, and given the usual expectations for Twitter, the joke doesn't come across as anything more than a mean insult. Which means that it fell flat and instead of having a nice little meta-joke about offensive jokes, we just have something that looks like an offensive joke.Ultimately, I think that it's a case of no real harm done. The Onion took a swing, recognized they had a miss, scrubbed the joke and issued and actually contrite apology.At this point, the only people who are shouting are a) people who go out of their way to be offended and b) people who think that self-censorship is a traitorous violation of the 1st Amendment. Which is to say, in both cases, a whole bunch of stupid c%nts.
Tyrone Slothrop: MNguy: quatchi:Seth said... "To give you an idea how young she is it'll be 16 years before she's too old for Clooney."That's a joke.You're drawing a pretty fine line there. What some people find funny, others may not.One is making fun of a grown man, the other is making fun of a 9-year old.
milsorgen: Who cares, words are just words.
pd2001: Peel back another layer and this whole episode is an indictment of the paradox of American prudishness: We can take strong language, violence, and sex on network television, but ZOMG! GET THE PITCHFORKS!! WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN FROM NAMECALLING AND BULLIES!!
Ambivalence: Well it's good to have standards.
thefatbasturd: Yeah no. You are giving them WAY too much credit this time. Somebody there thought it would be shocking and fbackfired and it backfired. You clearly put WAY more thought into it than anyone there did.
mhd: 3rdtimearound: obscureObscure, on Fark? We know all the references, even the one about the farking space hairdresser and the cowboy./He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin.
B.L.Z. Bub: milsorgen: Who cares, words are just words.Assuming you aren't black, I'd like to see you stroll down Compton or Harlem screaming the N-word and see how well that defense goes over.
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