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2013-02-25 03:15:28 PM

MaxxLarge: And in calling the least-offensive person on the red carpet (a charming, poised, adorable, talented, and universally-praised 9-year-old) the MOST offensive word that exists,


Republican?
 
2013-02-25 03:16:12 PM

Master Passion Greed: Sheez, it may be more plain than the Onion usually is, but I read it as being similar to this, not as an actual insult.


Samantha: Babies are not my scene, and from what I've heard this one sounds like an asshole.
Carrie: You can't call a baby an asshole.
Samantha: Why not? She called it a meatloaf!
 
2013-02-25 03:16:41 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Fano:
I agree that using that on an inoffensive little girl is like killing a mockingbird.

I was to think of those nights many times. Of Seth, and Ted, and Jennifer Lawrence, and Quvenzhane Wallis, and Argo.

She would be at the Governor's Ball all night, and she would be there when Anne Hathaway waked up in the morning.


There are some websites in this world that are born to do our unpleasant jobs for us. The Onion's one of them.
 
2013-02-25 03:18:43 PM
Jim Jeffries unavailable for comment.
 
2013-02-25 03:20:42 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Pussy. Drew Barrymore was doing 8-balls at her age


Is that like 4 dudes?
 
2013-02-25 03:22:10 PM

FraggleStickCar: So the most obvious point of the Onion's joke was that the humor lay in just how horrible calling a 9 year old the c-word is, also alluding to the absurdity of a 9-year old being made publicly available for such a level of scrutiny in the first place.

I get that people are upset, but I'm only seeing a lot of "You can't call a 9 year old girl a c-word it's crossing a line"  What line, and why exactly is  that too far?

Is this just one of those times when all the people who don't know what The Onion is and have no sense of humor get incidentally alerted to its existence?


Using an overtly sexual anatomy slur in reference to a nine year old is crossing the line. Say anything about her actions, attitude, whatever but calling a child a c**t or a d**k before those body parts have matured (and become close to legal to use) is the line.
 
2013-02-25 03:26:34 PM
i simply understood it as the little girl has been pretty much universally adored and regaled, and they just kind of went 180 with it. heavenly praise responded to with a luciferian forked tongue in cheek.

maybe more about the cult of adoration than her, but i don't think you can separate the symbol from whence and whither it's made.

verdict: good on them for apologizing.
 
2013-02-25 03:27:54 PM

taxandspend: Master Passion Greed: Sheez, it may be more plain than the Onion usually is, but I read it as being similar to this, not as an actual insult.

Samantha: Babies are not my scene, and from what I've heard this one sounds like an asshole.
Carrie: You can't call a baby an asshole.
Samantha: Why not? She called it a meatloaf!


24.media.tumblr.com
In all fairness, babies can be pretty cool too.
 
2013-02-25 03:30:48 PM
Doesn't bother me, but I also understand people with below average intelligence don't understand context and you have to worry about them when you have a lot of followers. I know someone's going to counter with "But a 9 year old won't understand context" so I'll go ahead and reply, "A 9 year old would also never find this quote unless someone deliberately showed her and likely doesn't understand what that word means anyway."
 
2013-02-25 03:32:13 PM

Master Passion Greed: taxandspend: Master Passion Greed: Sheez, it may be more plain than the Onion usually is, but I read it as being similar to this, not as an actual insult.

Samantha: Babies are not my scene, and from what I've heard this one sounds like an asshole.
Carrie: You can't call a baby an asshole.
Samantha: Why not? She called it a meatloaf!

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x282]
In all fairness, babies can be pretty cool too.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
Some babies have it coming.
 
2013-02-25 03:33:41 PM

gilgigamesh: No one is insisting they were really calling her a coont.  People are insisting that it is inappropriate to publicly call her that,


...

In case it wasn't clear, I'm having a very hard time reconciling the "I know they weren't calling her a coont" thought and "They shouldn't have called her a coont" thought. I would say we're dealing with Schrodinger's Coont but I don't feel like issuing an apology right now.

The joke worked, and if people weren't simultaneously blinded by the instinct to protect children and outrage over The C Word, they could easily understand the point of the joke: that Hollywood is filled with people who, for one reason or another, us "regular" folk have no problem calling every name in the book. That tweet just took the tomato-throwing mentality to its logical conclusion, where this purely fictional charactercalls the lest deserving target possible the worst name possible.

That this has to be explained anywhere is a real shame.

This girl--who I guarantee most of the people ripping their hair out over this had never heard of before last night--wasn't singled out for it. It wasn't anything personal. She was just the perfect vessel to deliver the commentary. I suppose you could have used an adult who has a reputation for being an innocent for the joke but a: there aren't that many of them in the industry these days and  b: it wouldn't be as funny as the little girl who is already there!

I don't mean to direct any anger at you,  gilgigamesh. It got away from me. But really...it's just a joke.
 
2013-02-25 03:36:25 PM
see you next tuesday
 
2013-02-25 03:36:42 PM

Diogenes: So that little girl gets a free pass for being a c*nt just because she's young?


I love Fark so much somedays.
 
2013-02-25 03:39:14 PM
It was funny.

But it is in poor taste to tell your Aristocrats/dead baby joke within earshot of your grandparents.
 
2013-02-25 03:39:35 PM

the801: skimmed like 4 articles about this and saw nothing even hinting of an explanation as to what caused someone to think she's a coont. i have to imagine that she said or did something or was in some way coontish for anyone to have mentioned it.

/have no idea who she is; didn't pay attention to the oscars at all.


I just figured it's a riff on the way we're supposed to "hate" all successful young women. It's just taken to the extreme with the language and the very young-ness of the actress in question. This morning, I saw several things written about how hard it is to "hate" Jennifer Lawrence. I just kept thinking, "Why do you feel the need to try?"

That said, I am glad the Onion took it down and apologized because little kids don't have the ability to filter that kind of thing out.
 
2013-02-25 03:40:27 PM

Timmy the Tumor: Quvenzhané  is my neighbor (true story).  I asked her this morning what she thought about the whole Onion thing and she said "It's f*cking hilarious!  People need to lighten the f*ck up, it was a joke.  Besides, they inferred that I can act like a c*nt, they didn't talk about my c*nt."


-3/10
 
2013-02-25 03:42:26 PM
The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.
 
2013-02-25 03:44:25 PM

D135: It was funny.

But it is in poor taste to tell your Aristocrats/dead baby joke within earshot of your grandparents.


Hey, some of us have grandparents who would not only not bat an eye, but proceed to tell their own.
 
2013-02-25 03:44:27 PM
catmandu:

Using an overtly sexual anatomy slur in reference to a nine year old is crossing the line. Say anything about her actions, attitude, whatever but calling a child a c**t or a d**k before those body parts have matured (and become close to legal to use) is the line.

What the fark?
 
2013-02-25 03:47:05 PM

Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.


What if I called her a little farking brat?  Over the line?
 
2013-02-25 03:48:13 PM

FraggleStickCar: Is this just one of those times when all the people who don't know what The Onion is and have no sense of humor get incidentally alerted to its existence?


Basically. Their Facebook page is full of people who obviously just heard of The Onion and think they were serious who then bring up Dakota Fanning. It's an enormous amount of butthurt to the point that a search for Wallis's name now brings up more results of The Onion's tweet than anything involving the actual Oscars.

The Tumblr Rage Machine is well-gassed, for the next day at least.
 
2013-02-25 03:49:10 PM

catmandu: Using an overtly sexual anatomy slur in reference to a nine year old is crossing the line. Say anything about her actions, attitude, whatever but calling a child a c**t or a d**k before those body parts have matured (and become close to legal to use) is the line.


Well now you just sound creepy.
 
2013-02-25 03:49:55 PM

FishyFred: Diogenes: So that little girl gets a free pass for being a c*nt just because she's young?

Actually, if what I'm reading in my Tumblr feed is representative, it's because she's black and that The Onion would never dream of calling Dakota Fanning the C-word.

/JUST THE MESSENGER HERE


I remember Kathy Griffin taking some heat for joking about Dakota Fanning being in rehab. IIRC, this was when War of the World because I recall Spielberg releasing a statement that Kathy Griffin was being blacklisted by Dreamworks. At the time, she was younger than Drew Barrymore when she was in rehab, which is why I'm guessing Spielbergo got so pissed off about it.
 
2013-02-25 03:49:55 PM
The Onion apologized for a joke? Fark that, you never apologize for a joke. The only time you apologize for a joke is in front of a live audience who can physically hurt you.
 
2013-02-25 03:51:44 PM

MNguy: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.

What if I called her a little farking brat?  Over the line?


static.ellahoy.es

"Did I call her a farking little brat? I'm sorry you felt you were offended. Watch my shows. Lorne Michaels is my biggest fan. The executives at NBCUniversal are in their bunk."
 
2013-02-25 03:52:04 PM

Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nmine.


ftfy, you perv
 
2013-02-25 03:52:47 PM

Disposable Rob: FraggleStickCar: Is this just one of those times when all the people who don't know what The Onion is and have no sense of humor get incidentally alerted to its existence?

Basically. Their Facebook page is full of people who obviously just heard of The Onion and think they were serious who then bring up Dakota Fanning. It's an enormous amount of butthurt to the point that a search for Wallis's name now brings up more results of The Onion's tweet than anything involving the actual Oscars.

The Tumblr Rage Machine is well-gassed, for the next day at least.


I feel it's mandatory to post this, even though it's likely old news to most in this thread: Literally Unbelievable
/apologies if it's already been posted
 
2013-02-25 03:53:34 PM

zarberg: FarkedOver: What if she really is a c*nt?

C*nts generally have warmth and depth, being from Hollywood, she probably has neither.


She's from Louisiana. And I really can't figure out what joke The Onion was trying to make. The kid isn't *anything* enough yet to be made fun of. It's not like calling Anne Hathaway a fat cow or something equally obviously sarcastic. It's baffling.
 
2013-02-25 03:54:42 PM

MNguy: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.

What if I called her a little farking brat?  Over the line?


It probably wouldn't be *nice*, but it wouldn't be upsetting either. Different insults have different meanings and different contexts. Depending on her actions, it could be an accurate description.

I wouldn't like someone calling Taylor Swift a coont. I don't like the word, and its only purpose seems too be for degrading women despite being a much-enjoyed body part. But she's kind of an asshole, and old enough to understand, so I wouldn't exactly care that much either.

Fair enough?
 
2013-02-25 03:56:06 PM

EyeballKid: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nmine.

ftfy, you perv


;) I was in a very lesbo girl scout troop. We'll be in our bunk.
 
2013-02-25 03:57:18 PM

catmandu: Using an overtly sexual anatomy slur in reference to a nine year old is crossing the line. Say anything about her actions, attitude, whatever but calling a child a c**t or a d**k before those body parts have matured (and become close to legal to use) is the line


When I am on playing games online and some per-pubescent child insists that I am fond of sexual relations with the members of my same gender, I do not hesitate in return to refer to them as one might a female dog, a fatherless son of low birth, or to suggest that they might desire sexual intercourse with their mother or mothers in general.  At no point do I ask how well their bodies are developed in order to alter or adjust my verbal retaliations.  I'm afraid if that is the line, then I too have crossed it many times in the past.
 
2013-02-25 03:57:32 PM
I must hang out with too many Brits.  I thought it was hilarious.

Maybe because every time i hear see you next tuesday I'm reminded of the first time I heard a brit account the story of him visiting the states for the first time in the late 80s and having a big dinner at one of those animatronic animal places.

When he uttered the word saying someone was being a right coont about it, he said the entire place became silent and all the animatronic animals looked at him.

Since hearing that story, That's the first thought that comes to mind.  Rainforest Cafee animals looking at you in shock....so I find the damn thing funny as hell.

/csb
 
2013-02-25 03:59:11 PM

browntimmy: Doesn't bother me, but I also understand people with below average intelligence don't understand context and you have to worry about them when you have a lot of followers. I know someone's going to counter with "But a 9 year old won't understand context" so I'll go ahead and reply, "A 9 year old would also never find this quote unless someone deliberately showed her and likely doesn't understand what that word means anyway."


What is the context that makes it funny?
 
2013-02-25 04:01:58 PM

yanceylebeef: I thought it was funny.


So did I.
 
2013-02-25 04:02:06 PM

someonelse: browntimmy: Doesn't bother me, but I also understand people with below average intelligence don't understand context and you have to worry about them when you have a lot of followers. I know someone's going to counter with "But a 9 year old won't understand context" so I'll go ahead and reply, "A 9 year old would also never find this quote unless someone deliberately showed her and likely doesn't understand what that word means anyway."

What is the context that makes it funny?


A nine year old kid who's been in one movie acting like a total, ultra diva, who gets on everyone's nerves. I thought it was mildly funny. Saying "she's kind of a diva" is plausible enough to be true, but calling her a c--t lets everyone know that it's a joke.
 
2013-02-25 04:03:14 PM

someonelse: And I really can't figure out what joke The Onion was trying to make. The kid isn't *anything* enough yet to be made fun of.


They weren't making fun of her, they were mocking the general treatment of celebrities but strangers by calling the most innocent one the worst name they could think of.
 
2013-02-25 04:03:45 PM

tboucher: I must hang out with too many Brits.  I thought it was hilarious.

Maybe because every time i hear see you next tuesday I'm reminded of the first time I heard a brit account the story of him visiting the states for the first time in the late 80s and having a big dinner at one of those animatronic animal places.

When he uttered the word saying someone was being a right coont about it, he said the entire place became silent and all the animatronic animals looked at him.

Since hearing that story, That's the first thought that comes to mind.  Rainforest Cafee animals looking at you in shock....so I find the damn thing funny as hell.

/csb


www.one-quest.com
We're whaler's on the moon / We carry a ha- WHAT DID THAT GUY JUST SAY?
 
2013-02-25 04:06:16 PM

Qellaqan: MNguy: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.

What if I called her a little farking brat?  Over the line?

It probably wouldn't be *nice*, but it wouldn't be upsetting either. Different insults have different meanings and different contexts. Depending on her actions, it could be an accurate description.

I wouldn't like someone calling Taylor Swift a coont. I don't like the word, and its only purpose seems too be for degrading women despite being a much-enjoyed body part. But she's kind of an asshole, and old enough to understand, so I wouldn't exactly care that much either.

Fair enough?


See, I thought is was some sort of a satirical meta-statement about the way we bad-mouth and denigrate young woman. Of course, no one but another 9-year-old would refer to a 9-year-old as the c-word.  It's a play on the way we're supposed to "hate" all successful young women. Now, take that to the extreme with the c-word instead of the b-word, which is perfectly [italic added to denote irony] okay when applied to anyone over 17, and apply it to a child instead of a young woman. Suddenly, it's very clear how twisted this is.

As I noted up-thread, this morning, there several things written about how hard it is to "hate" Jennifer Lawrence. I just kept thinking, "Why do you feel the need to try?" This Onion joke (which did fail...because if you have to explain the joke it failed) is the extreme version of this.
 
2013-02-25 04:24:21 PM

yeegrek: I get what they were going for:  "It's funny because it's not true", with a generous dose of "Shocking!" for flavour.  But you can't hit a kid with that.  Glad they apologized.


Exactly. But you *can* hit a kid with a bag of sweet valencia oranges, right Bing?
 
2013-02-25 04:24:46 PM

DeaH: Qellaqan: MNguy: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.

What if I called her a little farking brat?  Over the line?

It probably wouldn't be *nice*, but it wouldn't be upsetting either. Different insults have different meanings and different contexts. Depending on her actions, it could be an accurate description.

I wouldn't like someone calling Taylor Swift a coont. I don't like the word, and its only purpose seems too be for degrading women despite being a much-enjoyed body part. But she's kind of an asshole, and old enough to understand, so I wouldn't exactly care that much either.

Fair enough?

See, I thought is was some sort of a satirical meta-statement about the way we bad-mouth and denigrate young woman. Of course, no one but another 9-year-old would refer to a 9-year-old as the c-word.  It's a play on the way we're supposed to "hate" all successful young women. Now, take that to the extreme with the c-word instead of the b-word, which is perfectly [italic added to denote irony] okay when applied to anyone over 17, and apply it to a child instead of a young woman. Suddenly, it's very clear how twisted this is.

As I noted up-thread, this morning, there several things written about how hard it is to "hate" Jennifer Lawrence. I just kept thinking, "Why do you feel the need to try?" This Onion joke (which did fail...because if you have to explain the joke it failed) is the extreme version of this.


I understand your viewpoint. I agree that it's farked up that women are told to hate all other women. As a female, I have dealt with the consequences of this plenty. Buuuuut I don't see that calling some random famous 9 year old a coont is the solution. The onion makes up articles about made up people all the time. I guess I can't see using a real little girl to make this kind of a point with that kind of language. Maybe something along the lines of all the actresses hating the little girl for her youth (which I have seen "serious" articles about), but not this way. I wouldn't want people talking about the 9 year old girls (and boys) that I know with such language. However, and very unfortunately, this probably pales in comparison to things written about her on the internetz.
 
2013-02-25 04:40:48 PM
People taking the Onion seriously?
More-ons
 
2013-02-25 04:47:08 PM
On one hand, The Onion is know for biting and sometimes offensive satire.

On the other hand, they called a 9 year old girl a c**t.

I feel that this is one of those times when The Onion went just a bit too far. At least they were willing to admit that they did, yanked the tweet, and apologized to the girl.

It might have been funny if Quvenzhane was in on the joke or was old enough to understand that it was satire, but this was not the case.
 
2013-02-25 04:54:07 PM

Trocadero: someonelse: browntimmy: Doesn't bother me, but I also understand people with below average intelligence don't understand context and you have to worry about them when you have a lot of followers. I know someone's going to counter with "But a 9 year old won't understand context" so I'll go ahead and reply, "A 9 year old would also never find this quote unless someone deliberately showed her and likely doesn't understand what that word means anyway."

What is the context that makes it funny?

A nine year old kid who's been in one movie acting like a total, ultra diva, who gets on everyone's nerves. I thought it was mildly funny. Saying "she's kind of a diva" is plausible enough to be true, but calling her a c--t lets everyone know that it's a joke.


Nobody is saying she's acting like an ultra diva though. Just being from the Onion let's everyone know it's a joke. Everyone gets that it's a joke. The only question here are "was the joke funny?" The answer being "not to most people". A lot people are offering competing theories about what the supposed context was that allegedly made this joke funny from the juxtaposition thing (adorable child v. rudest name possible) to  "hyperbolic extension of already rampant media misogyny" making it quite clear that there was no clear context here.

Admit it, it was lame over-the-top joke that fell flat.

They can't all be A material.
 
2013-02-25 05:03:26 PM
wait til she gets pregnant at 14 and shes called a whore.....
 
2013-02-25 05:05:39 PM

catmandu: Using an overtly sexual anatomy slur in reference to a nine year old is crossing the line. Say anything about her actions, attitude, whatever but calling a child a c**t or a d**k before those body parts have matured (and become close to legal to use) is the line.


Have you never been woken up at 3AM by a screaming kid? My sons are dicks of the highest order.
 
2013-02-25 05:06:29 PM

quatchi: Trocadero: someonelse: browntimmy: Doesn't bother me, but I also understand people with below average intelligence don't understand context and you have to worry about them when you have a lot of followers. I know someone's going to counter with "But a 9 year old won't understand context" so I'll go ahead and reply, "A 9 year old would also never find this quote unless someone deliberately showed her and likely doesn't understand what that word means anyway."

What is the context that makes it funny?

A nine year old kid who's been in one movie acting like a total, ultra diva, who gets on everyone's nerves. I thought it was mildly funny. Saying "she's kind of a diva" is plausible enough to be true, but calling her a c--t lets everyone know that it's a joke.

Nobody is saying she's acting like an ultra diva though. Just being from the Onion let's everyone know it's a joke. Everyone gets that it's a joke. The only question here are "was the joke funny?" The answer being "not to most people". A lot people are offering competing theories about what the supposed context was that allegedly made this joke funny from the juxtaposition thing (adorable child v. rudest name possible) to  "hyperbolic extension of already rampant media misogyny" making it quite clear that there was no clear context here.

Admit it, it was lame over-the-top joke that fell flat.

They can't all be A material.


Well, I thought it was so obviously a satirical rip on the rampant (and basically socially acceptable) media misogyny that the intent couldn't possibly be missed...      but then I read this thread...
 
2013-02-25 05:06:36 PM

quatchi: Trocadero: someonelse: browntimmy: Doesn't bother me, but I also understand people with below average intelligence don't understand context and you have to worry about them when you have a lot of followers. I know someone's going to counter with "But a 9 year old won't understand context" so I'll go ahead and reply, "A 9 year old would also never find this quote unless someone deliberately showed her and likely doesn't understand what that word means anyway."

What is the context that makes it funny?

A nine year old kid who's been in one movie acting like a total, ultra diva, who gets on everyone's nerves. I thought it was mildly funny. Saying "she's kind of a diva" is plausible enough to be true, but calling her a c--t lets everyone know that it's a joke.

Nobody is saying she's acting like an ultra diva though. Just being from the Onion let's everyone know it's a joke. Everyone gets that it's a joke. The only question here are "was the joke funny?" The answer being "not to most people". A lot people are offering competing theories about what the supposed context was that allegedly made this joke funny from the juxtaposition thing (adorable child v. rudest name possible) to  "hyperbolic extension of already rampant media misogyny" making it quite clear that there was no clear context here.

Admit it, it was lame over-the-top joke that fell flat.

They can't all be A material.


Did the spends ever make them apologize for accurately reporting that a t-ball stand pitched a perfect game at last year's Special Olympics?
 
2013-02-25 05:09:31 PM

Lumbar Puncture: catmandu: Using an overtly sexual anatomy slur in reference to a nine year old is crossing the line. Say anything about her actions, attitude, whatever but calling a child a c**t or a d**k before those body parts have matured (and become close to legal to use) is the line

When I am on playing games online and some per-pubescent child insists that I am fond of sexual relations with the members of my same gender, I do not hesitate in return to refer to them as one might a female dog, a fatherless son of low birth, or to suggest that they might desire sexual intercourse with their mother or mothers in general.  At no point do I ask how well their bodies are developed in order to alter or adjust my verbal retaliations.  I'm afraid if that is the line, then I too have crossed it many times in the past.


That isn't really saying anything, though. If you were doing it on a major Twitter account with jillions of followers instead of alone in an MMO arguing with a dark dwarf or whatever, there would be people getting pissed off at you. The same people who got upset over this would get upset if a) you knew the other player was a 9 year old girl and b) you said as much to millions of people. So yeah, by their consideration you HAVE crossed it "many times in the past" but since MMOs are cesspools anyway no one noticed.

I can't help but shake my head at all this. The joke wasn't funny but if no one had gotten OUTRAGED the tweet would've been drowned by other onion tweets in 20 minutes. Now it's a headline and probably the first 5 pages of Google results on the kid's name. And in a way, it's all these peoples' fault. They should learn what Streisand effect is if they're actually concerned with minimizing this behavior, rather than getting holier-than-thou at some satire newspaper intern.

There is no limit to things that would piss any reasonable person off every day across the world. Learn to let it roll off, man. All you've done is make a huge controversy out of a tasteless joke that would've dwindled into obscurity without all your trumpeting.
 
2013-02-25 05:16:10 PM

Qellaqan: DeaH: Qellaqan: MNguy: Qellaqan: The seth macfarlane joke and the onion joke seem in poor humor to me for the same reason-- they sexualize a nine year old. I don't care if they're trying to make fun of Clooney... she's nine.

What if I called her a little farking brat?  Over the line?

It probably wouldn't be *nice*, but it wouldn't be upsetting either. Different insults have different meanings and different contexts. Depending on her actions, it could be an accurate description.

I wouldn't like someone calling Taylor Swift a coont. I don't like the word, and its only purpose seems too be for degrading women despite being a much-enjoyed body part. But she's kind of an asshole, and old enough to understand, so I wouldn't exactly care that much either.

Fair enough?

See, I thought is was some sort of a satirical meta-statement about the way we bad-mouth and denigrate young woman. Of course, no one but another 9-year-old would refer to a 9-year-old as the c-word.  It's a play on the way we're supposed to "hate" all successful young women. Now, take that to the extreme with the c-word instead of the b-word, which is perfectly [italic added to denote irony] okay when applied to anyone over 17, and apply it to a child instead of a young woman. Suddenly, it's very clear how twisted this is.

As I noted up-thread, this morning, there several things written about how hard it is to "hate" Jennifer Lawrence. I just kept thinking, "Why do you feel the need to try?" This Onion joke (which did fail...because if you have to explain the joke it failed) is the extreme version of this.

I understand your viewpoint. I agree that it's farked up that women are told to hate all other women. As a female, I have dealt with the consequences of this plenty. Buuuuut I don't see that calling some random famous 9 year old a coont is the solution. The onion makes up articles about made up people all the time. I guess I can't see using a real little girl to make this kind of a point with that k ...


Except your hypothetical satirical take wouldn't even work because people are apparently *seriously* discussing that (and as an aside, how farked up is that)? What's sad is that somebody could've said the exact same thing, in seriousness, about Anne Hathaway or Jennifer Lawrence and the outrage would've been minimal-to-nonexistent. The Onion probably went too far, but look at the lack of self-examination in this thread. The fact that we, the public, were the butt of the joke went over so many heads it's sad...
 
2013-02-25 05:28:51 PM

quatchi: What the Onion said was not a joke


No, it was. Just because you didn't think it was funny does not mean that it was not a joke.
 
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