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(Some Guy)   FDA: "Your products are drugs and therefore they may not legally be marketed without an approved new drug application." Are they talking about: A: Hemp? B: Untested medicine? or C: Walnuts?   (worldtruth.tv) divider line 191
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2013-02-25 11:36:40 AM
fark you, marketers. There's nothing stupid about this particular law. Go think of some other way to sell your walnuts.
 
2013-02-25 12:07:45 PM
The law says that if you make any medicinal claims about a substance, that substsance has to be approved by the FDA for that purpose.

For example, I used to make soap (as a hobby) and the law states that you cannot ascribe any property to a soap/lotion/etc beyond "moisturizing".  Even if a particular essential oil is known to be good for acne, if it's not FDA approved to treat acne, you cannot claim that a soap that contains that essential oil "treats acne" or is "anti-acne".

Walnuts may be healthy and good for you, but implying or claiming it will cure disease or make you healthier by eating them greatly exaggerates what benefits someone can expect to have from them (to the point of fraud).
 
2013-02-25 12:13:44 PM
The first two posts seem to have covered the subject nicely. Subby must work for Big Walnut.
 
2013-02-25 12:24:12 PM
The agency even threatened Diamond with "seizure" if it failed to comply.

Don't take my nuts, man!
 
2013-02-25 01:14:48 PM
If you start saying your product works like a medication, that's how the FDA will treat it.

If you take motor oil and slap a sticker on it saying "Cures Cancer!", you can expect to have it pulled from shelves unless you also slap on a sticker saying:

"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.
This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
 
2013-02-25 01:51:56 PM
I have major stock holdings in junk food/beverage companies, fast food chains, pharmaceutical companies, healthcare corporations, and funeral homes, and I just want to say...

THANKS FDA!
 
2013-02-25 02:33:48 PM
You gotta problem with Walnuts...?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-25 02:34:35 PM
Hmm.  Worldtruth.tv.  So what other major bombshells has this website exposed?


"Ten facts that prove Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax".
"Chemtrail flu: Have you got it yet?"
"The vaccine hoax is over"

Yeah, I'm gonna go with "Your Blog Sucks" for $500, Alex.
 
2013-02-25 02:42:49 PM
Back in the 70s my parents always kept flat Coca-Cola in the medicine cabinet for upset stomachs based on our pediatrician's advice [wink wink]. If Coca-Cola dared market this medical benefit of their product they would have the FDA up their butt in no time flat.
 
2013-02-25 02:44:42 PM
It's about time someone stood up to the overarching walnut lobby!
 
2013-02-25 02:45:06 PM
 
2013-02-25 02:45:32 PM
This is a perfectly legitimate application of the FDA's regulatory authority. If you want to make health claims about a product, you run it by them first.
 
2013-02-25 02:47:36 PM

timujin: Welcome to 2010...

http://www.fda.gov/iceci/enforcementactions/warningletters/ucm202825 .h tm


And a repeat: http://www.fark.com/comments/6417731/
 
2013-02-25 03:02:06 PM

timujin: timujin: Welcome to 2010...

http://www.fda.gov/iceci/enforcementactions/warningletters/ucm202825 .h tm

And a repeat: http://www.fark.com/comments/6417731/


Beat me to it.

Thought that sounded familiar.
 
2013-02-25 03:16:35 PM
The new contraband...
wwwdelivery.superstock.com
 
2013-02-25 03:16:37 PM
Walnuts give me the runs.
 
2013-02-25 03:17:46 PM
This kind of bureaucratic tyranny sends a strong signal to the food industry not to innovate in a way that informs the public about foods that protect against disease

If by "innovating" you mean "coming up with new marketing BS", then yeah, maybe.
 
2013-02-25 03:18:57 PM
Damn, isn't it tough enough being a walnut farmer?
 outside-satan.trailertheater.com
/you smell like canned tamales
 
2013-02-25 03:19:47 PM
Feh, I agree with the FDA.  Same as when they cracked down on all those cereals with all their health claims.

Best part of this is the link from subby looks like some dang conspiracy website, or at best, a rag newspaper.
 
2013-02-25 03:20:05 PM
gossipsucker.com
 
2013-02-25 03:20:08 PM
Oh nuts.
 
2013-02-25 03:20:40 PM

kingoomieiii: If you start saying your product works like a medication, that's how the FDA will treat it.

If you take motor oil and slap a sticker on it saying "Cures Cancer!", you can expect to have it pulled from shelves unless you also slap on a sticker saying:

"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.
This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."


Buy my CancerCure<sup>TM</sup> brand motor oil today!
 
2013-02-25 03:20:50 PM
i.imgur.com

Walnut farming, eh? This guy just opened up his first pecan farm. Cleared a cool million without planting a single pecan.
 
2013-02-25 03:21:19 PM
As the squirrel says...
 
2013-02-25 03:21:21 PM
I don't know about walnuts, but pistachios are horribly addictive and should be controlled. Or maybe it's just the salt.

Anyways, back on topic:

images.wikia.com
 
2013-02-25 03:21:33 PM

Ambivalence: I used to make soap


Is that you, Tyler?
 
2013-02-25 03:22:42 PM
This is bogus.  Everyone knows that the FDA will readily approve any kind of nuts sent to them for testing individually wrapped in thousand dollar bills.
 
2013-02-25 03:22:44 PM

MBooda: Damn, isn't it tough enough being a walnut farmer?
 [outside-satan.trailertheater.com image 480x360]
/you smell like canned tamales


There's been a walnut uprising.
 
2013-02-25 03:23:44 PM
Well, they sure taste bad enough to be medicinal. Bitter shaite.
 
2013-02-25 03:23:47 PM
www.reednutcracker.com
In other nut news, my coworker came in with oneof these babies today.
Farker will bust a farking nut, i'm telling you.
Model 8 motherfarking sixteen, yo.
 
2013-02-25 03:24:09 PM

Ambivalence: The law says that if you make any medicinal claims about a substance, that substsance has to be approved by the FDA for that purpose.

For example, I used to make soap (as a hobby) and the law states that you cannot ascribe any property to a soap/lotion/etc beyond "moisturizing".  Even if a particular essential oil is known to be good for acne, if it's not FDA approved to treat acne, you cannot claim that a soap that contains that essential oil "treats acne" or is "anti-acne".

Walnuts may be healthy and good for you, but implying or claiming it will cure disease or make you healthier by eating them greatly exaggerates what benefits someone can expect to have from them (to the point of fraud).


Right then. So who wants to sue the shiat out of PepsiCo for the blantantly fraudulent implications and claims it makes saying it'll lower your cholesterol and prevent heart disease to eats bags and bags of their heart-healthy chips? Surely that's fraud?

Oh wait..there are studies that indicate it may help if you don't eat a family sized bag a day. But PepsiCo has massive lobbyists pouring money into capitol hill. So do the drug manufacturers that treat all that heart disease.

But walnuts... 50-some papers backing up the claims and no lobbyists. So sorry, walnuts.

Follow the money, honey.
 
2013-02-25 03:24:16 PM
af11.files.wordpress.com
Illegal? Get the fark outta here.
 
2013-02-25 03:25:32 PM
"Your products are drugs and therefore they may not legally be marketed without an approved new drug application."

More like "If you make medical claims about your product YOU are calling your product a drug, and thus need to prove your claims via clinical testing."

The solution's simple.  Stop making medical claims about your non-medical product.
 
2013-02-25 03:25:35 PM
I've been thinking of combining my origami skills with my stash of discount aluminum foil and marketing very fashionable mind control deflector headgear. I don't have to run that by the FDA first, do I?

/mine looks like a Samurai hat!
 
2013-02-25 03:25:52 PM

Capt.Plywood: Well, they sure taste bad enough to be medicinal. Bitter shaite.


Black Walnuts are the shiznit, and way more bitter than English. And that is one tough nut to crack. Not even sure if the Rocket 816 is up for a black walnut.
 
2013-02-25 03:26:09 PM

St_Francis_P: The first two posts seem to have covered the subject nicely. Subby must work for Big Walnut.


Why should 0bummer's jackbooted FDA have the authority to decide what is a valid claim of medical benefit?

I was once a doubter too, until I heard an ad for IncomeAtHome.com on the Sean Hannity radio show.  I signed up for some extra pocket money, but now I make so much from selling healthy, all-natural, organic foods and supplements that I was able to quit my dead-end, boring job.

Can 0bongo claim that he's made a small business that has helped people cure their diabetes, asthma, irritable bowl syndrome, and even cancer?  NO!!!  So instead he tries to stop me from trying to tell people about the many wonderful products made by Herbal-  um....

If you would like to know more, send me an email at jus­tanordin­ar­y­mo­mw­orkingfromh­om­e19­6­9[nospam-﹫-backwards]LOA­*com and I'll tell you how you can potentially earn significant income, right from home.  Mention "Sean Hannity" and I'll even give you a 10% discount on your registration fee.
 
2013-02-25 03:26:14 PM

Aigoo: Right then. So who wants to sue the shiat out of PepsiCo for the blantantly fraudulent implications and claims it makes saying it'll lower your cholesterol and prevent heart disease to eats bags and bags of their heart-healthy chips? Surely that's fraud?


I'm curious, what products are you talking about?
Personally I am fine with the FDA cracking down on advertising and packaging that suggests health benefits based on nothing.
 
2013-02-25 03:27:04 PM

loki see loki do: Model 8 motherfarking sixteen, yo.


Is that the one with the attractive wooden base?
 
2013-02-25 03:27:55 PM
But if you want to rush a drug to market for something like 'restless leg syndrome' with hardly any testing the FDA has your back.

/If it's found to be fatal later, that's just the price you pay for progress.
 
2013-02-25 03:28:13 PM
Has no one ever submitted a walnut to the FDA?
I mean, they should be aware of this stuff.
 
2013-02-25 03:29:19 PM

WinoRhino: loki see loki do: Model 8 motherfarking sixteen, yo.

Is that the one with the attractive wooden base?


Damn straight.
 
2013-02-25 03:29:43 PM
"Worldtruth.tv", eh?

I can imagine what I'd find in your archives if your crappy blog weren't Farked after 700 clicks.
 
2013-02-25 03:29:58 PM
Not sure if they are drugs, but I am sure walnuts are alien...

www.freepresshouston.com
 
2013-02-25 03:30:08 PM
and yall keep voting Democrat....

media.npr.org
 
2013-02-25 03:31:20 PM

Ambivalence: Walnuts may be healthy and good for you, but implying or claiming it will cure disease or make you healthier by eating them greatly exaggerates what benefits someone can expect to have from them (to the point of fraud).


This.

 I was all ready to support the company, thinking that the FDA just came out of nowhere and tried to pull some BS, but trying to use medical benefits to sell a product? I'm glad Diamond got slapped.
 
2013-02-25 03:31:41 PM

damageddude: Back in the 70s my parents always kept flat Coca-Cola in the medicine cabinet for upset stomachs based on our pediatrician's advice [wink wink]. If Coca-Cola dared market this medical benefit of their product they would have the FDA up their butt in no time flat.



It's already an FDA approved medicine. Just go to your pharmacy and ask for Coke Syrup.
 
2013-02-25 03:32:08 PM
Agrees.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-25 03:33:07 PM

MBooda: Damn, isn't it tough enough being a walnut farmer?
 [outside-satan.trailertheater.com image 480x360]
/you smell like canned tamales


I farm pecans, myself.
 
2013-02-25 03:33:52 PM
Wow, a massive page full of mysql warnings.
 
2013-02-25 03:34:02 PM

Aigoo: But walnuts... 50-some papers backing up the claims and no lobbyists. So sorry, walnuts.

Follow the money, honey.


Yes, follow the money. Big Walnut puts lots of cash into 50 studies that purport their super incredible awesome health benefits. That doesn't mean they're good studies, but at least they can claim persecution when FDA finds they're being incredibly dishonest by paying scientists to conduct studies that make their products look healthier than they actually are.

/Love walnuts. super tasty snack.
 
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