xria: Yeah, install Shell Classic or whatever, and applications to take over the various inbuilt Modern UI (like a pdf viewer, etc.), and you forget you have even changed - been using it for a few months for work and haven't had any issues once I took the plunge and installed a third party mod to de-Metro it.
yukichigai:And this right here is why as a gamer I will never use Windows 8. I mean I guess I'm in the minority here who doesn't want their solo effort taking down Crawmerax to be interrupted by the Charms Bar helpfully popping up and stealing focus.I game fine, but I do run in full screen mode, which pre-empts this. If you run windows or borderless windowed, then maybe you have a problem there. I'll grant that could be an issue.MightyPez: ColdFusion: What's so bad about it? I mean, specifically. All I hear is "It is bad" or "It's for tablets/touchscreens" (without specifying why single-clicking an icon is more laborious than double-clicking an icon).This covers the complaints quite nicely
Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Slaxl: nekom: Yeah, it's going to be another "Me" style flop. I've already made the decision to ban any talk of windows 8 at work, under penalty of torture.ME sucked because it was shiat, right? I remember it crashing lots. Win 8 is crap because it doesn't have a start menu button on the task bar. As far as I can tell everything else is the same as Win7.Yeah, HORRIBLE problem, that. God forbid anything should ever change. Or could afford $5 for a utility that brings back that precious start button.
cman: Microsoft made a huge risk with Windows 8.Windows 8, underneath the eye candy, is the best Windows ever released. But, with Metro, Jesus I know the desktop metaphor is old as fark, but the mobile metaphor is even worse for keyboard + mice systems.
Solkar: I'm a Mac guy in my private life since the mid-80s, but have had to use Windows for work since the 3.1 days. My in-laws bought me a Dell laptop with Win 7 a couple of years ago. Microsoft ran a deal back in January to get Win 8 for $40, so I upgraded, installed Pokki to replace the Start menu and avoid Metro ... and I think it's the best experience I've ever had with Windows. And it runs much faster than it ever did with Win 7 - it's like a brand-new machine.Other than the dislike for Metro, which is understandable, I don't get all the hate.
President Merkin Muffley: Everything has been crap since OS/2./windows 8 is a good OS. Deal with it.
Solkar: Other than the dislike for Metro, which is understandable, I don't get all the hate.
nekom: Yeah, it's going to be another "Me" style flop. I've already made the decision to ban any talk of windows 8 at work, under penalty of torture.
fisker: HeartBurnKid: fisker: HeartBurnKid: I'm glad you like it. You can have it.No. I am convinced that I am doing something wrong and this really isn't a good operating system. This is too good to be true. How can so many people who don't even use it be so right?What in the world makes you think I haven't used it?-Because we are still talking about charms bar woes. Something I got over and came to appreciate after the first 5 minutes.I've gone into many things about why this is over all a better OS and we are still talking about the charms bar and Nickelback.
fisker: HeartBurnKid: I noticed that you failed to answer the question, and instead decided to mock me for even asking. I assume that you did this because you didn't want to admit that the answer is, indeed, "move your mouse over to this one completely unmarked portion of the screen and leave it there for 1-3 seconds to get the button you actually want."I have to move my mouse over to the bottom or top right hand corner and then the charms bar comes out. Or I can hit WIN + C.Your complaint is that it is unmarked? Or is it something you simply have to pay attention to in a simply and brief tutorial? What is the actual problem you are having? Start over. From the beginning. What is the real issue you are having?
Rwa2play: Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.Really?
Rwa2play: Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.Really?[www.digitaltrends.com image 850x477]If you call this "perfectly fine", either I'll keep my Windows 7 PC or...switch to a Mac.
Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.
HeartBurnKid: CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.A whole lot of this. People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.WAAAH! I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few monthsYeah... it's not better. Maybe it's better if you have a "hybrid tablet", but on a standard desktop, it's the drizzling shiats.
red5ish: One of the things that hasn't been mentioned enough is how execrably ugly this is:[img198.imageshack.us image 606x341]And it doesn't look better on a 20" high resolution screen. Aesthetics are a part of the user experience and Microsoft has released the ugliest looking product I've seen in a long, long time.
fluffy2097: mongbiohazard: I think I will probably be downgrading back to 7 soon, unless they issue a patch soon. The extra moment or two when I open a window may not seem like much... but on my gaming machine I notice it, and being that it wasn't there under 7 - on the same damn hardware - it annoys me.Have you checked your power management settings? Sandy bridge processors clock down to like 1.6ghz when idle to save power, and if your power management is enabled, lots of things will never trigger the processor to step up to it's full speed.Make sure all that shiat is turned off.
ZeroCorpse: So many people are just completely uninformed about Windows 8. It's staggering. You'd think the thread were full of Mac fans trying to sabotage Win 8, judging from the sheer volume of ill-informed FUD.When you're in the Desktop interface, it's EXACTLY like Windows 7, but faster and without a Start button. Games run better. Apps load faster. You can multitask like a motherf♥cker. All the Windows 7 drivers work with Windows 8. Windows hotkeys all still work.
ZeroCorpse: When you're in the Desktop interface, it's EXACTLY like Windows 7, but faster and without a Start button.
stevetherobot: That's another thing I don't like about Windows 8. Pressing the Win key now brings up the Metro UI.
mongbiohazard: I think I will probably be downgrading back to 7 soon, unless they issue a patch soon. The extra moment or two when I open a window may not seem like much... but on my gaming machine I notice it, and being that it wasn't there under 7 - on the same damn hardware - it annoys me.
cman: Rwa2play: ha-ha-guy: cman: Microsoft made a huge risk with Windows 8.Windows 8, underneath the eye candy, is the best Windows ever released. But, with Metro, Jesus I know the desktop metaphor is old as fark, but the mobile metaphor is even worse for keyboard + mice systems.The good thing is MS can recover from this, if they want. Win8 has solid internals and all you need to do is churn out a classic GUI style for Windows 9. Win7 is glorious and really it is just Vista SP 2.5, so turning around Win8 can't be that hard.What I'm getting is that Win 8 under the hood is great...but the interface just kills your desire to play with it.The interface is so bad that you will want to use bleach on your eyes
ColdFusion: Communist_Manifesto: Yes I could google this but I figured someone here has already done it. I got over most of my gripes after installing Classic Shell and banishing Metro to wherever it is now.How do I make it stop pulling up the system controls stuff whenever I scroll over to the right side of the screen?Also, sometimes when I'm playing civilization I make some move on my track pad and I guess Win 8 is set up to go to the homescreen whenever I make a certain move (what it is I can't figure out), how the hell do I turn off this "feature"?Moving the mouse to the upper or lower right corners of the screen will pop up the "Charms Bar". The only way to disable this is to edit the Registry. If you're up for it, here you go: http://betanews.com/2012/08/21/disable-the-charms-panel-in-windows-8/
Dimensio: Do you not find the corners to be helpful, especially if your primary access to Windows-based systems is through remote desktop interface windows that do not occupy the entire screen?
yukichigai: Saiga410: yukichigai: it's all "put your mouse in this corner of the screen for X period of time" or "click and drag this over here to close it"I have yet had a chance to play with Win8. This is really what is expected in destop mode?There's no "start button" to get the Start Screen. Instead you're expected to cram your mouse over to the bottom-left corner, which will then produce something you can click. The charms bar, which holds the Control Panel-esque functions, is over in the right side of the screen.Desktop apps don't have to be closed with click and drag, thank God, but Metro apps do. The login screen also requires you to click the little banner thing and then drag it down to reveal the login prompt, etc. etc. etc. Little to none of this can be disabled.
ColdFusion: What's so bad about it? I mean, specifically. All I hear is "It is bad" or "It's for tablets/touchscreens" (without specifying why single-clicking an icon is more laborious than double-clicking an icon).
ha-ha-guy: What I don't get is why Microsoft ever felt the need to inflict Win8 upon us in the form that they did. I get that you want to leverage touch screens, move in the direction of common UI themes across multiple platforms, etc. That said make it so Win8 has a switch in it where you can either do a Win7 desktop style or the Win8 tiles. Let the consumer pick.For example a tablet that ran around in tile model, but could be set so when your bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected it automatically flipped over to the classic UI would be nice. A laptop that detected when you folder the screen over into slate mode and switched to tiles would also be awesome. Tiles could also exist in the classic UI like widgets. Let me pick how much I want. Like just a row of the touch tiles on the bottom of the screen.Each UI has its perks, so while the hell did anyone think it was a good idea to make you pick just one?/also Windows should be smart enough to determine if each monitor is touch table or not and react. Another awesome mode would be my giant 24" monitor in front of me and a 15" touch monitor lying flat on the desk that I can use to input commands
zarberg: 6 Ways to avoid the Metro Interface in Win 8
Dr. Whoof: Granted it's easy to install classic shell and forget about it, but most IT departments are already overtaxed and don't need to spend time fixing what is essentially a broken UI from Microsoft.
vpb: You can even get a program to replace the start menu if you want it. Or get a touch mouse or just learn how to organize it. People don't like Win8 because it isn't what they are used to.
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