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2013-02-25 06:51:21 PM  

lohphat: red5ish: One of the things that hasn't been mentioned enough is how execrably ugly this is:
[img198.imageshack.us image 606x341]
And it doesn't look better on a 20" high resolution screen. Aesthetics are a part of the user experience and Microsoft has released the ugliest looking product I've seen in a long, long time.

[www.orangeinks.com image 620x419]


I may be in the minority, but I like my computer to look good. I don't want it to look like the cash register at McDonalds. At the very least I want the option to modify its appearance to something that doesn't look like a pastel color chart from the paint store.
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2013-02-25 06:52:03 PM  

lordargent: lewismarktwo All MS had to do was have an option for the old interface, but no they had to push their new bullshiat on people who don't want it.

Yeah, how hard would it have been to leave the old school menu system in while adding the ribbon.

// ohh wait, that's MS Office :P


Yeah, I've been using Office 2007 for about 3 years now, and I still think the ribbon is a goddamn mess.
 
2013-02-25 06:56:02 PM  
Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.
 
2013-02-25 06:58:05 PM  
Also, computer prices always drop about $100 this time of year.
 
2013-02-25 06:59:09 PM  
ever since XP you're basically better off only buying every other windows release
 
2013-02-25 07:07:02 PM  

yukichigai: Well yes, obviously.  It does make me wonder though how they intend to get people to use these new Metro Apps if they're not only awkward for desktop users, but they make the entire experience awkward when they're running at all.


Well, the way I use mine is I have a podcast or internet radio app running while I do my work on the desktop.  It runs completely in the background unless I want to sidebar it so I can pause or skip on the fly.  I've also found a scientific calculator app useful as a sidebar metro app while running in desktop.  I can use both the desktop app and the calculator side-by-side without losing much from either (on widescreens, it basically makes the desktop the standard 4:3 instead of 16:10 while it runs in the little slice to the side.

It's all little stuff, and you can use as much or as little as you like.

red5ish: You're reading a lot into my comment that I didn't intend to express. I am not trying to pick a fight or make judgments about you, but I may have written in a way you found offensive and for that I apologize.


It's alright, I was just being a bit prickly because I just happen to be a know-nothing blogger (outside of Criminology) and didn't like the comparison, lol.

I've found the learning curve-- with the admittedly small sample I have of people around me-- to not be that steep, once the user figures out how to get to the desktop.  My mother, for example, does not like any change to her Windows and is practically phobic in regards to computers.  She still wishes she could use Win98, let alone 7.  Once I showed her the "Desktop" tile, she never needs to deal with the Start Screen except in the same way she used the Start Menu (find a program, click icon, receive bacon).

There is a big difference, I've seen, in how well people adapt to OSes.  Hated the hell out of Linux when I just played around with it, same with Mac OS X.  At times, though, I force myself to take the plunge and use only what I'm wanting to learn.  I find that I learn it real fast.  People who are "trying it out" in the store, as part of an experiment or demo, or just as a lark... they'll find it a lot harder to learn than when it comes on their computer and it's just what they will use from now on.
 
2013-02-25 07:12:33 PM  

xaveth: Wait... why did we need Windows 8 again? What was wrong with Windows 7?


Meanwhile, in Other Universe:

What makes MS think people will just keep buying Windows 7 forever? That's their problem, too slow. Can't keep up with the modern pace of software development. People want to see something fresh and different on the shelves, not the same old crap!
 
2013-02-25 07:23:10 PM  

cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.


A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months
 
2013-02-25 07:29:23 PM  

ColdFusion: red5ish: You're reading a lot into my comment that I didn't intend to express. I am not trying to pick a fight or make judgments about you, but I may have written in a way you found offensive and for that I apologize.

It's alright, I was just being a bit prickly because I just happen to be a know-nothing blogger (outside of Criminology) and didn't like the comparison, lol.


I too am a know-nothing blogger (my subject is Baseball). A decade ago I spent about three and a half years studying usability and Jakob Nielsen was (and still is) the big kahuna on the subject, so I rushed to his defense. "Don't you know who this Great Man is?" Pretty pathetic, in retrospect.
 
2013-02-25 07:44:28 PM  

CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.

A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months


or ya know... they just bought windows 7, which works great, and see no reason to upgrade?

i'd be cool with using windows 7 for another 5 years, if anything it's the 3rd party programs that need to optimize and catch up, nothing metro can do about that
 
2013-02-25 07:51:30 PM  

CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.

A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months


Yeah... it's not better.  Maybe it's better if you have a "hybrid tablet", but on a standard desktop, it's the drizzling shiats.
 
2013-02-25 07:57:45 PM  

MrSteve007: My initial point still stands. Almost all of the metrics shows that Windows 8 adoption (in terms of percentage of overall users) is faster than the much beloved Windows 7.


Is that units installed or units shipped?

Also, Vista has people shell-shocked and thy didn't want to leave XP. Once Win7 was shown stable, then it took off.
 
2013-02-25 07:59:24 PM  

fluffy2097: Confabulat: Also, it demands I activate it every couple of hours; which of course I've already done.

ITT: someone with pirate software complains it doesn't work right....


Oh fark you, I just bought a new computer in January with Win 8 installed. So hey, did I say, FARK YOU.
 
2013-02-25 08:00:55 PM  

fluffy2097: mongbiohazard: I think I will probably be downgrading back to 7 soon, unless they issue a patch soon. The extra moment or two when I open a window may not seem like much... but on my gaming machine I notice it, and being that it wasn't there under 7 - on the same damn hardware - it annoys me.

Have you checked your power management settings? Sandy bridge processors clock down to like 1.6ghz when idle to save power, and if your power management is enabled, lots of things will never trigger the processor to step up to it's full speed.

Make sure all that shiat is turned off.



Checked my power management settings and everything is set for max performance already... But the GUI is still slightly slower than it was under Win 7. No matter. I can just "downgrade" back to 7 and lose pretty much nothing I wanted anyway, aside from Direct X 11.1, and that I'm not going to be using any time soon anyway. Microsoft got paid cash moneys for their latest OS from me, and I get to have a legit Windows 7 which works pretty close to flawlessly for me. After Windows 8 has had a year or two to get patched I can switch back to it if I so desire. Everybody wins!
 
2013-02-25 08:04:46 PM  

HeartBurnKid: CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.

A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months

Yeah... it's not better.  Maybe it's better if you have a "hybrid tablet", but on a standard desktop, it's the drizzling shiats.



I'm actually tempted to buy a Windows tablet running Pro though... The GUI does seem like it would be a good one for that format. Asus makes one for just under $500 with the full Windows on it... I can run my favorite desktop programs on it and also browse my home LAN and play my media files directly from my server through windows explorer.

Metro still sucks on my desktop though.
 
2013-02-25 08:06:19 PM  
I've got no hate for Win 8. Hell if I were buying a new machine from scratch I might go with it. But nope, I'm a perfectly satisfied Win 7 users, with a five year old home built pc. If I'm going to go to the trouble of buying and installing a new OS, I want "Better. Faster. Easier." Not just "Different."
 
2013-02-25 08:11:11 PM  

HeartBurnKid: CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.

A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months

Yeah... it's not better.  Maybe it's better if you have a "hybrid tablet", but on a standard desktop, it's the drizzling shiats.


Yeah, "better" is pretty subjective.  It has some nice improvements, but whether or not they overcome the new shortcomings is debatable.
 
2013-02-25 08:20:10 PM  
I'm switching jobs this month and one of the first things I am going to do when I sign my new contract is take that bonus and run out and buy myself a surface pro.

Suck it dinosaurs.
 
2013-02-25 08:26:28 PM  
Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?

It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.
 
2013-02-25 08:33:55 PM  
I've been using Windows 8 (since it came on my computer) and haven't been having any issues with it.
 
2013-02-25 08:34:13 PM  

theurge14: Rwa2play: MrSteve007: soporific: So yes, Metro is the reason for the hate, and deservedly so. The simple option would be to have Win8 use the regular configuration for desktops and Metro for tablets. It auto-detects and configures accordingly. If you want to switch over, it shouldn't take more than two or three clicks, because giving consumers the option will make it more appealing. There, I've solved the Win8 dilema.

That's a good idea, if you want to keep users in their computing UI comfort zone.

Microsoft is betting on the Metro-style interface They're attempting to standardize the UI between desktops, laptops, tablets, phones and the TV (via Xbox).

They don't want you to stick with the old systems, they want to unify the UI for all devices - which in the long-run, makes sense.

No offense but...hasn't Apple already accomplished this with their OS on both their Mac and their IDevices?

Well, yes and no.  Yes, Apple has already made an effort to unify the UI between the Mac and iOS devices, and No they still kept them distinct.  For example, in Snow Leopard they introduced a side-swiping Applications window on the Dock that mimicked the home screen of the iPhone.  Instead of making it the default home screen on the Mac, they made it an icon on the Dock you can click into and use optionally.  Is this the right approach?  I don't know what their user studies show them but I imagine taking an extreme like forcing a new desktop paradigm without checking into that is probably not a good idea.


That's what I thought; although they're trying to blur the lines between the MacOS and the iOS, Apple won't force the issue.  They'll still keep them distinct yet still give you a taste of how the other OS works.

Maybe THAT's what Microsoft should have done with Win 8.
 
2013-02-25 08:36:33 PM  

imgod2u: I do find Metro to be a minor annoyance on my desktop. Not so much so that I would nerdrage about it but it is somewhat disjoint from the rest of the UI.

That being said, I can postulate as to why they're pushing Metro so hard: their market share in tablets and touchscreen devices is miniscule. In order to get developers to make touchscreen apps, they need it to be the main interface even for big Windows on desktop.

I honestly don't mind. Like I said, it's a minor annoyance for desktop but as a media PC, metro is a fantastic interface. Ditto for a touchscreen desktop.


A minor annoyance would be something that takes a couple of clicks to change.  Don't think changing the UI on Win 8 back to Luna is that simple.
 
2013-02-25 08:39:25 PM  

HeartBurnKid: CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.

A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months

Yeah... it's not better.  Maybe it's better if you have a "hybrid tablet", but on a standard desktop, it's the drizzling shiats.


This.
 
2013-02-25 08:41:44 PM  

Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?

It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.


Really?

www.digitaltrends.com

If you call this "perfectly fine", either I'll keep my Windows 7 PC or...switch to a Mac.
 
2013-02-25 08:42:48 PM  
Anyone want to explain why the new 'Metro' UI is better?

I don't see anything there that makes me want to change. It has to be 'better' than the other UI before I'll bother to invest my time in it. I know the Metro part of the UI  has several features I detest like
1) Basically only one window open at a time
2) Things that pop up when you mouse over them or move the mouse to a particular location.

Note: Talking about the UI not the OS. Speed / reliability etc are independent of the UI.
 
2013-02-25 09:00:39 PM  

Rwa2play: Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?

It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.

Really?

[www.digitaltrends.com image 850x477]

If you call this "perfectly fine", either I'll keep my Windows 7 PC or...switch to a Mac.


Oh look! It's Pointcast showing you stuff on your screen...when you're not there.
 
2013-02-25 09:08:06 PM  

HeartBurnKid: CmndrFish: cretinbob: Finally saw Win8 the other day. I can see where people wouldn't like it if you don't have a touchscreen. Looks like it's something new to get used to and you know how people hate that.

A whole lot of this.  People whining about Windows 8 are probably the same people that whine every time Facebook changes the layout of their site.

WAAAH!  I DON'T CARE IF IT'S BETTER, I'M RESISTANT TO CHANGE!

/have Win8 on my hybrid tablet and HTPC
//would put it on my desktop too if I wasn't replacing the machine in a few months

Yeah... it's not better.  Maybe it's better if you have a "hybrid tablet", but on a standard desktop, it's the drizzling shiats.


I call it a "hybrid tablet" because when I call it a tablet everybody thinks it's an iPad-like toy when in fact it's a real computer.

And I don't mind it on the desktop at all.  I don't understand people's love of the start menu.  To me it was always cumbersome and not that useful anyway.  The best thing they ever did was bring the search feature in so I could ignore the bloody thing entirely.  At least I can gain information from the Metro startscreen, whereas I'm just hunting through icons in a start menu.

Perhaps I have an unfair advantage because I already know how to "use" Metro from owning a Windows Phone, but you can gain a lot from live tiles.
 
2013-02-25 09:09:35 PM  

MrSteve007: What a derpy headline, considering this is a meat of the article: "Best Buy lowered its prices after a survey revealed that shoppers who bought touchscreen Windows 8 devices were "significantly happier" than those who bought PCs with a bog-standard display"

They're lowing the prices of touchscreen PC's by $100, because people like using Win 8 on a touchscreen. And this is somehow news?


Also it looks like people DNRTFA either. But either way Windows 8 is deemed a failure in the Fark circuit so any Win8 threads will be like this.

I plan to get Win8 when I do finally upgrade my PC and get a touch screen monitor, other then that I'll stick to Win7 Ultimate.
 
2013-02-25 09:24:19 PM  

Slaxl: nekom: Yeah, it's going to be another "Me" style flop.  I've already made the decision to ban any talk of windows 8 at work, under penalty of torture.

ME sucked because it was shiat, right? I remember it crashing lots. Win 8 is crap because it doesn't have a start menu button on the task bar. As far as I can tell everything else is the same as Win7.


And that's exactly what Win 8 is, and with improved boot/sleep/shutdown times.

Buncha whiners...
 
2013-02-25 09:33:08 PM  

ZeroCorpse: So many people are just completely uninformed about Windows 8. It's staggering. You'd think the thread were full of Mac fans trying to sabotage Win 8, judging from the sheer volume of ill-informed FUD.

When you're in the Desktop interface, it's EXACTLY like Windows 7, but faster and without a Start button. Games run better. Apps load faster. You can multitask like a motherf♥cker. All the Windows 7 drivers work with Windows 8. Windows hotkeys all still work.

People keep acting like Metro is the main GUI.  It isn't.It's there for tablet users, but when you're on a desktop there's no reason you need to use it at all, if you don't want to. Even if you do use it like it's meant to be used on a desktop (as a Start menu, and that's it; Not as the replacement for the desktop) you might find that it's way more customizable and flexible than the previous start menu.

No, I think a lot of people are just jumping on the bandwagon. They've not used Win 8, but they're CERTAIN it sucks because they saw some pictures of the Metro interface and clicked it a couple times at Best Buy.


My AARP member but still working (owns his own business) uncle needed a new computer a month ago.  He picked one with 7 at Microcenter because 7 worked perfectly fine for him and he didn't want to be a guinea pig.

It's XP/Vista all the f--k over again.  And those are the people who make up the bulk of the market: they have no reason to upgrade their desktops or laptops with 7 currently installed, so... they're not gonna.  Eventually you'll have to pick 8 for a new purchase, but by that time everyone will just skip over 8 since Microsoft will have the *next* OS just around the corner.

XP/Vista/7 all over again.  My uncle hated the f--k out of Vista (came with a laptop) and swore never again.  He'll hopscotch 8.  My parents will too.  I get the advantages 8 has, but I'm young and don't feel like dropping money on a new OS I don't really need either.  Likewise with the SO who just uses Linux these days since he finally figured out how to run Netflix on it.

So you've got some middle ground between myself/SO (20s) and uncle/mom/dad (50s-60s), I suppose.   But that's a huge % of potential customers who are gonna avoid 8 as long as they can, if for slightly different reasons.  Hell, I skipped Vista myself.  Other than helping pissed off relatives and older people at the office who couldn't figure it out, and y'know, that was enough.  But fancy new laptop = can't utilize features with XP = I get 7.  Touch screen laptops aren't going to really catch up until Windows 9 I wager.

/not taking tablets into account here
 
2013-02-25 09:39:39 PM  

Rwa2play: Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?

It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.

Really?


www.digitaltrends.com 

If you call this "perfectly fine", either I'll keep my Windows 7 PC or...switch to a Mac.

I like how the panel for the Windows Blog isn't even smart enough to convert the "&" code from the RSS feed.

Also, my Mom would be calling me to complain about how the screen is chopped off on the edge.

Metro was designed for people who surf the web, not for people that need to be productive. It is meant to convey as much information to the user onscreen as possible.... it's the evolution of screen widgets, which have had a spotty history and place in our UIs for the last 14 or 15 years or so.

The problem is that widgets are great if they are up on an airport wall, or in the corner of a cafe.... but ultimately, they are only worth a few seconds of our notice, not our full attention 100% of the time. We've spent the last two decades getting used to "multitasking" - windowed environments where very different applications can have data cut and pasted between them; Metro is the antithesis of this.

Sure, as a consolation prize, we have a desktop... shoved to second-class citizen status in the Operating System's UI, and Neutered (Start menu removed) for no obvious reason, other than to tell users, "stay the fark out of that old desktop!".

Yes, there are third party solutions to "fix" the problem... but why is this the party line now? Microsoft made a big deal out of running WinXP via a Virtual PC box.... we had third party solutions for that too...  Microsoft insists on pushing Windows Defender... but there are third party solutions for that, too. In the end, they had no reason to brutally chop the desktop away, other than to encourage users to stay in the ugly Metro screen, which only AMPLIFIES how bad Metro is - that Microsoft had to resort to cheap tactics, instead of relying on what SUPPOSEDLY is a superior UI to stand on its own against a fully functional desktop UI.

I'll also say again... gestures are the devil on desktop PCs. Nobody wants to spend 8 hours holding up their arms, swiping and swooshing their screens. Nobody wants to keep their fingers super clean to prevent the screen from looking like it was slobbered on by Ke$ha's lady parts after an hours worth of touchscreen usage. Nobody likes to have to MEMORIZE obscure keyboard commands or "hovering locations" to get "charm bars" to magically appear.

All that said, it's kind of sad that Microsoft made some great improvements UNDER the hood.... then proceeded to put a 1978 AMC Pacer body on top of it.  ...And just like the 1978 Pacer, Metro has its fans (though it's usually the same Farker suspects White Knighting Win8) - surely none of them here have anything to do with Microsoft or the Win8 development team.

Balmer needs to own up to the mistake in pushing this experiment on the public at large, and release a Service Pack that brings back the Desktop to its proper glory.
 
2013-02-25 09:41:29 PM  
Oh and the Win8 "upgrade" DVD said I'd have to do a fresh install; it refused to upgrade the recently installed Win7ultimate.

Fark that noise.
 
2013-02-25 09:42:52 PM  

LesserEvil: I like how the panel for the Windows Blog isn't even smart enough to convert the "&" "& amp ;" code from the RSS feed


Ugh. Even Fark is smart enough to convert the Ampersand HTML code.
 
2013-02-25 09:52:21 PM  

LesserEvil: Rwa2play: Marine1: Are you guys still whining about an OS that's perfectly fine?

It's not changing. It's not bad. Get over it.

Really?

[www.digitaltrends.com image 850x477] 

If you call this "perfectly fine", either I'll keep my Windows 7 PC or...switch to a Mac.

I like how the panel for the Windows Blog isn't even smart enough to convert the "&" code from the RSS feed.

Also, my Mom would be calling me to complain about how the screen is chopped off on the edge.

Metro was designed for people who surf the web, not for people that need to be productive. It is meant to convey as much information to the user onscreen as possible.... it's the evolution of screen widgets, which have had a spotty history and place in our UIs for the last 14 or 15 years or so.

The problem is that widgets are great if they are up on an airport wall, or in the corner of a cafe.... but ultimately, they are only worth a few seconds of our notice, not our full attention 100% of the time. We've spent the last two decades getting used to "multitasking" - windowed environments where very different applications can have data cut and pasted between them; Metro is the antithesis of this.

Sure, as a consolation prize, we have a desktop... shoved to second-class citizen status in the Operating System's UI, and Neutered (Start menu removed) for no obvious reason, other than to tell users, "stay the fark out of that old desktop!".

Yes, there are third party solutions to "fix" the problem... but why is this the party line now? Microsoft made a big deal out of running WinXP via a Virtual PC box.... we had third party solutions for that too...  Microsoft insists on pushing Windows Defender... but there are third party solutions for that, too. In the end, they had no reason to brutally chop the desktop away, other than to encourage users to stay in the ugly Metro screen, which only AMPLIFIES how bad Metro is - that Microsoft had to resort to cheap tactics, instead of relying on what SUPPOSEDLY is a ...


In Windows 7, did you spend a long time staring at the start menu?  Why would you do the same thing with the full-screen version of a start menu?

If you need a program, hit windows button, find the icon, push butan, receive bacon.  It's not that hard.

The start screen is not a magnet.
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-25 10:04:14 PM  
10-24-01 10:42:36 AM    Wulph
What all's better about XP than Win2K Professional?

10-24-01 11:26:19 AM    Quamper
wulph: nothing.. xp is essentially win2k with a playschool interface... they've said xp uses the same codebase as win2k and the only thing new(when you strip away the fluff) is the Luna Interface(which I personally don;t like)


(Fark thread around the original XP release, via archive.org...  We live in some kind of crazy fractal.)
 
2013-02-25 10:04:14 PM  

ColdFusion: In Windows 7, did you spend a long time staring at the start menu? Why would you do the same thing with the full-screen version of a start menu?


Ooh, ooh! Me! I got this one!

Because it's sitting there taking up your entire desktop all the time.

It's kinda like if I was to take my desktop icons settings and set the slider to GINORMOUS so I can only see like 12 of them.

/and I specially love the huge clock icon which can't even be bothered to show the time
 
2013-02-25 10:04:50 PM  
My new rig is Win8. The only problems I had was setting it up. Windows (for my own protection, apparently) didn't want to let me web browse until I acknowledged their registration email. Which I couldn't open because I couldn't get Outlook to work. Come to find out the new Outlook doesn't support POP3. WTF? Oh well, Thunderbird it is then.

Oh, and the McAfee suite it came with wouldn't work and refused to let me enable the Windows firewall so I had to uninstall it.
 
2013-02-25 10:20:00 PM  
Haet Windows 8?
Install Classicshell
Shut up and use your damned computer.
 
2013-02-25 10:41:40 PM  
Upgraded an old XP Home laptop to Windows 8 for $39. Works perfectly, feels like a new machine. I'm more of a Mac guy, but even at that, no complaints. Just sayin'.


/Start menu disappears and y'all freak out.
 
2013-02-25 11:23:34 PM  

MrSteve007: What's funny is that the adoption rate of Win 8 appears to be a lot faster than Windows 7, yet people claim it isn't selling well.

Look at any major metric you want, it's proving to be true.


Win 8 is on many more devices than 7, and there are increasingly more systems being sold. People w/out a choice to buy a Win 7 machine, who need computers, are being counted as "adoptors."
 
2013-02-25 11:26:00 PM  

Zombalupagus: ColdFusion: In Windows 7, did you spend a long time staring at the start menu? Why would you do the same thing with the full-screen version of a start menu?

Ooh, ooh! Me! I got this one!

Because it's sitting there taking up your entire desktop all the time.

It's kinda like if I was to take my desktop icons settings and set the slider to GINORMOUS so I can only see like 12 of them.

/and I specially love the huge clock icon which can't even be bothered to show the time


All the time?  Really?  You didn't spot the button on the start screen marked "Desktop", that takes you away from the start screen and onto the desktop that is the same as Windows 7, except for the lack of a start menu icon?

I stand corrected:  You must not have stared at it hard enough.

Here's a hint:   http://i.imgur.com/0gwCaCT.png
 
2013-02-25 11:30:47 PM  

Slaxl: nekom: Yeah, it's going to be another "Me" style flop.  I've already made the decision to ban any talk of windows 8 at work, under penalty of torture.

ME sucked because it was shiat, right? I remember it crashing lots. Win 8 is crap because it doesn't have a start menu button on the task bar. As far as I can tell everything else is the same as Win7.

Solkar: I'm a Mac guy in my private life since the mid-80s, but have had to use Windows for work since the 3.1 days. My in-laws bought me a Dell laptop with Win 7 a couple of years ago. Microsoft ran a deal back in January to get Win 8 for $40, so I upgraded, installed Pokki to replace the Start menu and avoid Metro ... and I think it's the best experience I've ever had with Windows. And it runs much faster than it ever did with Win 7 - it's like a brand-new machine.

Other than the dislike for Metro, which is understandable, I don't get all the hate.


It's mainly from people who haven't actually used it.  It's freakishly fast.  My laptop literally boots up from hibernate mode in less than four seconds.  If I "sleep" it, it takes less than a second usually to come up.
 
2013-02-25 11:39:36 PM  

meanmutton: It's mainly from people who haven't actually used it.


From what I've seen.  Hate to reference Idiocracy a second time in this thread, but most Windows 8 hate boils down to the courtroom scene there.

"Prosecutor, why you think Windows 8 sucks?"
"Number one, your honor.. just look at it!"
 
2013-02-25 11:42:33 PM  
I have begun installing start8 on every client of mine who has a Win8 PC... I just add it too their bill and tell them to thank me...  its like $5
 
2013-02-25 11:47:33 PM  

AdamK: ever since XP you're basically better off only buying every other windows release


95
98se
XP
7
9?

The trend is longer than you think. Skipping 98, ME, and Vista were good choices.
 
2013-02-25 11:51:03 PM  

MightyPez: ColdFusion: What's so bad about it?  I mean, specifically.  All I hear is "It is bad" or "It's for tablets/touchscreens" (without specifying why single-clicking an icon is more laborious than double-clicking an icon).

This covers the complaints quite nicely


"One of the worst aspects of Windows 8 for power users is that the product's very name has become a misnomer. "Windows"no longer supports multiple windowson the screen. Win8 does have an option to temporarily show a second area in a small part of the screen, but none of our test users were able to make this work. Also, the main UI restricts users to a single window, so the product ought to be renamed "Microsoft Window." "

OK, that's funny.
 
2013-02-26 12:00:55 AM  
Seems that the new UI was created by the creative marketing team, and not the user experience team?
 
2013-02-26 12:07:18 AM  
FTA: <i>Best Buy lowered its prices after a survey revealed that shoppers who bought touchscreen Windows 8 devices were "significantly happier" than those who bought PCs with a bog-standard display, http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/02/22/best-buy-offering-100-promotion -on-touchscreen-pcs/" target="_blank">according to the The Wall Street Journal.</i>

Gotta love the trolls here on FARK.
 
2013-02-26 12:40:41 AM  

ColdFusion: Eh, another Win8 hate thread.

New computer came with Win 8, planned to downgrade it but gave it a shot.  Thirty minutes and a couple questions on google and I was good to go.  Still use the start screen, customized it for my needs and it works faster for me than the start menu ever did.  Nice to have a dedicated TuneInRadio app for streaming music while I work.  All my stuff is exactly where I want it on the start screen; nothing I don't want is visible.  I just go direct for what I want.  I wouldn't want the old start menu back now.

I can understand why the business people hate it.  But they always seem to hate every change.  fark, I remember the whining about how Windows XP was going to be the cancer that killed computing because of the Authentication system, and how it was the worst thing to happen to the Enterprise-sector sales since the invention of taxes.

/Still have no idea why people have problems with the Metro interface using a mouse.
//It's still farking icons, you just click once instead of twice.
///Not complicated.


Absolutely this.

I'm at the point where I never realized that I would feel so sorry for people that have problems with this stuff.

Everything about Windows 8 is better than Windows 7 and it freaks me out reading comments that suggest otherwise. Those people obviously do not own it. At least that is what I keep telling myself because, WHAT OTHER REASON COULD THERE BE?

It's the fastest and most smoothly running operating system I have ever used. It is akin to culture shock when I see people talk negatively about it. It's scary that something can come out and be a total improvement and still fail because of people who have- never used it, played around with it at a Best Buy for 30 seconds, or, (and this one I do not understand), - bought it, installed it, decided they didn't like it and then got rid of it, then downgraded to Windows 7.

How the fark does that work? profile.ak.fbcdn.net

I don't have a touch screen on my laptop. I scroll through the metro UI easily with my mouse. It's beautiful. It has access to every single program you have ever installed all on one giant scrollable screen. You just start typing what you want. To suggest that that is more difficult makes zero sense and I will never let that go unchallenged when anyone says otherwise.

When you right-click in the bottom left corner you get this:
i.imgur.com

ONE click access to shiat that would take up to as much as 4 to 5 clicks to get to.

Again, HOW is this more difficult to use? Especially when it's faster and utilizes your actual existing processing power in areas where Windows 7 does NOT?

I'm not going to get into the apps available (that Windows 7 will NEVER have) because it's a humungous  landscape and a journey that I can only suggest you discover for yourselves.

I'm sorry you guys don't like it and are convinced that it is not a desktop computing operating system. I don't understand why most people do not questions these rumors that are completely and utterly littered with bullshiat.

You'd figure it would be obvious by now since everyone that is complaining about Windows 8 is cloning the same arguments from each other. You're not fooling anybody into making people believe that you are actually using this operating system when you say that you don't like it because of the start menu. Someone who is actually using windows 8 would find that absurd unless they are going to specifically point out that I said that and repeat it in the contrary.
 
2013-02-26 12:42:11 AM  

sendtodave: MightyPez: ColdFusion: What's so bad about it?  I mean, specifically.  All I hear is "It is bad" or "It's for tablets/touchscreens" (without specifying why single-clicking an icon is more laborious than double-clicking an icon).

This covers the complaints quite nicely

"One of the worst aspects of Windows 8 for power users is that the product's very name has become a misnomer. "Windows"no longer supports multiple windowson the screen. Win8 does have an option to temporarily show a second area in a small part of the screen, but none of our test users were able to make this work. Also, the main UI restricts users to a single window, so the product ought to be renamed "Microsoft Window." "

OK, that's funny.


No it doesn't.
 
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