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(Sun Sentinel)   Activists want the state to stop saying "retarded," would prefer the much more politically correct "Floridian"   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 182
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2013-02-25 04:47:28 PM  

HairBolus: Cup_O_Jo: I think what is wrong with people today is political correctness.

You do realize that "political correctness" started out as a fairly neutral or even positive term that has had its semantic scope over generalized and now is often used as a broad negative term that has lost much of its meaning?

What's next? Will "politeness" or "consideration" become pejoratives? After all, Republicans have mounted an effort to make "empathy" and "science" dirty words and have destroyed the meaning of "patriotism" and are working on "freedom"..


I'm pretty sure "political correctness" has always had a pejorative cast to it, at least as it has been used in mainstream discourse in the English-speaking world. I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've heard it used in a neutral or positive fashion...and it was always by people who were apparently tone-deaf to the irony and allusion built up in the term.
 
2013-02-25 04:47:33 PM  
If you have to retard the timing on your '68 Chevelle, do you now have to intellectually disable the timing on your '68 Chevelle?
 
2013-02-25 04:49:35 PM  
The problem with this has nothing to do with it being overly PC, it has to do with damaging the language:

Mental Retardation has a very specific meaning that Intellectually Disabled does not.  You could have severe autism and be considered Intellectually Disabled, but MR means something very different.  Or if you have Downs, that's different from MR.

I do agree that the flippant way it's used as an insult is bad, but that doesn't justify damaging medical language.   Most people just need to be exposed to more MR people, it would stop them throwing that word around the same way spending time with gay people has stopped people using gay as a slur.
 
2013-02-25 05:04:33 PM  

Yogimus: We should go back to the old terminoligy of Idiot, Moron, and Imbecile.

STOP CHANGING WORDS.  The new word will have the same meaning. And be equally offensive a decade later.


THIS.

Words have a natural tendency to "slide" toward their most negative meanings. Idiot, moron, and imbecile were all official classifications, and then became slurs. So we changed to to "mental retardation", "mentally retarded", and "retarded" ... which have likewise come to be viewed as derogatory terms and now their usage is considered to be politically incorrect.

So we're moving to "intellectually disabled"? Gee, that's never gonna become the slur du jour.

Fecking morons.
 
2013-02-25 05:14:20 PM  

HairBolus: What's next? Will "politeness" or "consideration" become pejoratives? After all, Republicans have mounted an effort to make "empathy" and "science" dirty words and have destroyed the meaning of "patriotism" and are working on "freedom"..


Or how about "herp" and "derp"? Are people going to start using those as insults?
 
2013-02-25 05:17:33 PM  

another cultural observer: royone: Moonfisher: Autistic people aren't retarded.  In fact, most of them are smarter than most of you.

Heck, most of them are smarter than all of me, except my brain.

At least 25% of autistics meet the criteria for mental retardation.  That's if you're using the "happy" statistics.


Yes, and conversely many of them are gifted and brilliant.  There are retarded people with autism, but having autism does not mean you're retarded.  And I still stand by my statement; after careful review of the politics tab, I am convinced that at least 50% of the people on Fark are retarded.
 
2013-02-25 05:18:05 PM  
"Retarded" is a great insult BECAUSE IT IS SO INSULTING.

Would I call a challenged person by that name? Hell no. Would I call someone acting like a retard (a totally different kettle of fish)  a retard?  Hell yes.  Three times a day if I need to.
 
2013-02-25 05:22:53 PM  

Moonfisher: another cultural observer: royone: Moonfisher: Autistic people aren't retarded.  In fact, most of them are smarter than most of you.

Heck, most of them are smarter than all of me, except my brain.

At least 25% of autistics meet the criteria for mental retardation.  That's if you're using the "happy" statistics.

Yes, and conversely many of them are gifted and brilliant.  There are retarded people with autism, but having autism does not mean you're retarded.  And I still stand by my statement; after careful review of the politics tab, I am convinced that at least 50% of the people on Fark are retarded.


For every Rain Man autistic, there are 100,000 of them that are just run of the mill retarded. People really think autism bestows some magic intellect?
 
2013-02-25 05:25:41 PM  

HairBolus: Cup_O_Jo: I think what is wrong with people today is political correctness.

You do realize that "political correctness" started out as a fairly neutral or even positive term that has had its semantic scope over generalized and now is often used as a broad negative term that has lost much of its meaning?

What's next? Will "politeness" or "consideration" become pejoratives? After all, Republicans have mounted an effort to make "empathy" and "science" dirty words and have destroyed the meaning of "patriotism" and are working on "freedom"..


Yes, I know how it started. However, the world moves on. Definitions move on. Political parties change. It's called moving forward. You should try it. Or maybe you are retarded?
 
2013-02-25 05:33:25 PM  

vudukungfu: mattharvest: Handicapped: derives from the phrase "cap in hand"

citation?


This page is way too farking long to actually read, but apparently this is false. It has something to do with some weird old-timey game.


http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/handicap.asp
 
2013-02-25 06:25:35 PM  
Ponce man might have a problem with you using "Floridian", it's just too cruel.
 
2013-02-25 06:37:53 PM  
Obligatory:

Doctor Funkenstein 2007-12-18 12:49:35 PM


What kind of dumbasses do they have working there? Doesn't sound like much of a prank.

[ring, ring, ring]
School Guy> Hello. This is Tard Shockin' School. How can I help you?

Prankster> Hello. Would you please shock some tards?

School Guy> I need proper authorization for that.

Prankster> OK, I'm the boss. Now get to shocking.

School Guy> Right away, sir.

Tard> I like pie...rawr...[ZAP]
 
2013-02-25 06:46:52 PM  
just put this into the search engine      3276148  and hopefully you will be able to read it.....
 
2013-02-25 06:48:00 PM  
 
2013-02-25 07:11:41 PM  

Yogimus: We should go back to the old terminoligy of Idiot, Moron, and Imbecile.

STOP CHANGING WORDS.  The new word will have the same meaning. And be equally offensive a decade later.


Well, that is the problem.

Really, can you think of a work more well-intentioned than "special"? It's pure essence of PC feel-good terminology and it  still has a stigma because the word is less important than the association, just as you say.

Be that as it may, let's not go back to idiot, moron and imbecile. Those are outmoded terms that really don't have any scientific validity, and the distinctions that they draw are wholly artificial.

Let's just keep mentally retarded. Retardation is a perfect good and accurate term to describe the condition, whereas "mentally challenged" is something that describes anyone trying to do a difficult Sudoku.
 
2013-02-25 07:14:07 PM  
Is midget still acceptable?
 
2013-02-25 07:38:32 PM  
You know, if they say "so and so is mentally retarded" that is one thing, but to call someone "a retard" is kind of offensive.

One is a clinical description of fact, the other is a pejorative used to hurt or mock.
 
2013-02-25 08:01:01 PM  
They should STFU and be thankful they aren't called Mongolian Idiots anymore. In my Learning and Behavioral Disorder class in college our teacher gave this really long and nice speech about how the new PC term is "intellectually challenged", and my first thought was "That's retarded.". To me,  "intellectually challenged" is even more offensive, because it's as if they're incapable of being intellectual. There are people with high functioning Down's Syndrome that have the potential to be intellectual. Just because they were born with an affliction doesn't mean they should be automatically judged. To me, that is retarded. Retarded isn't a bad word. Calling someone a 'retard' is unnecessary. Say the whole word, yo.
 
2013-02-25 08:26:33 PM  

SoupJohnB: I like 'em French-fry potaters.

//mmm-hmm


The weird thing about that movie is that all the retards in that movie talk that way. The girl Carl met also talked like no sped I've ever seen.
 
2013-02-25 08:44:25 PM  

what the cat dragged in: I can't believe I'm the first one to do this...
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I'll see that and raise ya.
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And Knoxville still gets work after this?
 
2013-02-25 08:53:27 PM  

laid back w/bud light: Is midget still acceptable?


I hope so, because they really don't like "hobbit," I've found...
 
2013-02-25 08:55:20 PM  
Retarded wasn't an insult until people started to use it on intelligent people.
 
2013-02-25 09:12:40 PM  

HairBolus: linguistics


"Euphemism treadmill" is the probably the term you're looking for; the idea is arguably much older.

Actually, I can remember exactly when I decided to hop off that treadmill, once and for all -- it was when I had a classroom of students (university seniors) audibly *gasp* when I used the word "retarded" in a lecture, in a perfectly literal and grammatical way.

Since then, I've decided I'm entirely comfortable with my vocabulary and how I use it. So, I just don't feel the need to keep up with the latest verbal fashions...especially those driven by moronic taboos.
 
2013-02-25 09:34:04 PM  
"Chlorine bleach helps retard mold growth".....whaaaa off to jail you go
 
2013-02-25 10:35:44 PM  
This is PC idiocy at its finest.

"Once considered a medical term, "retard" and "retarded" evolved into a slur used by children and adults alike .."

So what happens when "intellectually challenged" or whatever nonsense they would rather use becomes a slur, as it most certianly will?  Do they then ban that too? It seems like a huge waste of public resources to go changing words every 20 years or so as their meaning becomes polluted by association with the thing they represent.  If those representing the retarded were smart they would do more like the gays have done with the word queer or some radical feminists have done with the word slut.  They adopted it, thus stealing its power.
 
2013-02-26 01:04:03 AM  

GoSurfing: If you have to retard the timing on your '68 Chevelle, do you now have to intellectually disable the timing on your '68 Chevelle?


Not sure about that, but I do know that if I'm driving along in a '68 Chevelle (mind if I change it to a '70 Sport Fury GT?) and I press the horizontal pedal on the left, my vehicle will be retarded.

Because it's been slowed.
 
2013-02-26 01:11:08 AM  
how about "gay"

i think it is LESS hurtful than retarded.  cause it implies that the person had a CHOICE in the matter.  to be gay.  instead of lets say.  nice, and thoughtful
 
2013-02-26 03:45:49 AM  
I just call them Democrats.

And Republicans.
 
2013-02-26 08:52:29 AM  
christians are adults that really believe in angels

QED

lulz invisible sky wizards
 
2013-02-26 02:33:59 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: The idea is to make labels so long and awkward that they fall into disuse in common speech.  There will be no convenient way to insult others.


Tikki Tikki Tembo-no Sa Rembo-chari Bari Ruchi-pip Peri Pembo approves of this method.
 
2013-02-26 03:07:40 PM  

Yogimus: We should go back to the old terminoligy of farker, farker, and farker.

STOP CHANGING WORDS.  The new word will have the same meaning. And be equally offensive a decade later.


you have a good point
 
2013-02-28 02:46:34 PM  

skullkrusher: TypoFlyspray: Get this, Morons, it's not the word that's offensive, it's the condition and the having to live with the condition. I have a pair of Retarded cousins (twins, didn't get enough oxygen in the womb), and their life sucks out loud in 16.7 million colors whatever word you use for their condition. Changing the language will do precisely dick for them. This sort of busybodied PC idiocy is the functional equivalent of Facebook Slacktivism: Utterly worthless.

yeah, their lives are tough and so are the lives of those who have to care for them. So if those people ask you not to use the word because it is hurtful, you're a gigantic asshole for continuing to use it.

No longer calling black people "colored" isn't going to do a farking thing for them but in this day and age, many people would take offense to it so people don't use it. It's not "PC". It's just being a decent human.


No, it's people who need to grow a thicker skin.  Changing the term every couple of decades doesn't change the facts.
 
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