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(NYPost)   NYC Catholic leaders come to an understanding with the local drag queens, each side being secretly envious of the other's fashion sense   (nypost.com) divider line 35
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2013-02-25 10:14:57 AM  
+1 headline
/dnrfa
 
2013-02-25 10:23:55 AM  
Bullshiat.  I know no gay man who thinks priests have good fashion sense.

Popes, on the other hand...
 
2013-02-25 10:25:26 AM  
It's all about the hats...
 
2013-02-25 10:36:16 AM  
The Rev. Richard Baker of St. Malachy's Catholic Church on 49th Street stepped back from his demands that Lillie's restaurant stop the show, sources said, in a peacemaking conference call in which he agreed to go along with their "Breakfast at Epiphany's" brunch and the cross-dressers agreed to cancel their protest outside the church.

So, it's an "understanding" in which the Catholics back down from their idiotic demand, and in exchange, the drag queens don't make them look like assholes?
 
2013-02-25 10:39:04 AM  
Drag queens and priests, dogs and cats, living together... mass hysteria!
 
2013-02-25 10:40:11 AM  
The priests should trying dressing as nuns. But careful, I'm told it's habit-forming.
 
2013-02-25 10:42:20 AM  
Cross dressers != Drag Queens.  The latter has a certain charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent that the former lacks.

We had a cross dresser who used to come to our Catholic church growing up.  For a month, then left when no one cared.  He apparently hopscotched churches.

/shrug
 
2013-02-25 10:56:38 AM  
Could they all walk in heels?
 
2013-02-25 11:28:43 AM  
Jesus had long hair and a cross.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-25 11:36:31 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bullshiat.  I know no gay man who thinks priests have good fashion sense.

Popes, on the other hand...


LOL! Even Ru Paul would look at the popes outfit, shake his head and say "TSK, no no no no no no honey. Nobody gonna buy you in THAT hat sweetie"
 
2013-02-25 11:45:52 AM  
Like the old joke:

"Love your hat, love your dress, but your purse is on fire!"
 
2013-02-25 11:48:38 AM  
Gay propaganda on every side!
 
2013-02-25 12:16:05 PM  
Were these Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, or some knockoff group? Short article is too short.
 
2013-02-25 12:42:50 PM  
Makes me want to go down to Lucky Cheng's.
 
2013-02-25 01:00:56 PM  
I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.
 
2013-02-25 01:25:09 PM  

Theaetetus: The Rev. Richard Baker of St. Malachy's Catholic Church on 49th Street stepped back from his demands that Lillie's restaurant stop the show, sources said, in a peacemaking conference call in which he agreed to go along with their "Breakfast at Epiphany's" brunch and the cross-dressers agreed to cancel their protest outside the church.

So, it's an "understanding" in which the Catholics back down from their idiotic demand, and in exchange, the drag queens don't make them look like assholes?


Yup. Looks like they tried to bully someone and were reminded that this isn't 1200 A.D. any more, and sometimes when the church pushes now people push back.

kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.


Religious culture in America has regressed over the last few decades, IMHO. The concept of "turn the other cheek" has been gutted by hordes of scripturally illiterate statists who are busy trying to prove that they're the most religious by hating the groups their political teachers on the right tell them the bible tells them to hate, and demanding the freedom of others be curtailed according to their half-baked religious interpretations. It plays to their inferiority complexes, and gives them people to feel superior to with logic which cannot be refuted since it is often based on lies about what the bible teaches (not that the bible is anything more than a collection of crap some guys centuries ago decided to write to encourage people to get along better - but these folks can't even get THAT right). I blame the ascension of the religious right in the Republican party.
 
2013-02-25 01:29:41 PM  

kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.


Yeah, things haven't been the same since LaVey died, have they?

/I keed, I keed
//that was the same time period the church closest to my house had book, t-shirt, poster and cassette burnings
///Satanic Panic, ya know
*pukes pea soup, spins head*
 
2013-02-25 01:49:47 PM  
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Thank goodness I or any other Farker wouldn't have any comments about such an article.
 
2013-02-25 01:54:43 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bullshiat.  I know no gay man who thinks priests have good fashion sense.

Popes, on the other hand...


You just KNOW it was a gay guy who came up with the term "Popalicious".
 
2013-02-25 02:13:34 PM  
Am I in before the Pope's FABULOUS shoes?
 
2013-02-25 02:59:42 PM  
Vatican Fashion Show - Federico Fellini (Roma)

1972, so before the turtles of 5th Element and the Vorlons of Babylon 5, but after the Daleks (1963)
 
2013-02-25 03:00:46 PM  
The Catholic Church priesthood has always been a place where homosexuals in denial can hide in plain sight while suppressing their true desires. And sometimes acting on them, apparently. And often inappropriately. Apparently.
 
2013-02-25 03:23:49 PM  

kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.


Well, it's weird that the Catholics are in on the gay-bashing for that reason, but the protestants have been massively intolerant of everything they're legally allowed to be intolerant about (plus a few more for good measure) basically forever.

I think the Catholics have been picking up the habit recently because of all the press and money various bits of bigotry have been making the protestants.
 
2013-02-25 03:29:00 PM  

Big John's Breakfast Log: The Catholic Church priesthood has always been a place where homosexuals in denial can hide in plain sight while suppressing their true desires.


To be fair, official Catholic doctrine has long been that it isn't a sin until acted on, and a heterosexual priest is supposed to be having exactly as much sex as a gay one.

And sometimes acting on them, apparently. And often inappropriately. Apparently.

And there's the problem. The interesting question is to what extent this is an atypical departure from the norm or is really a typical case after all.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-25 06:50:07 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.

Yeah, things haven't been the same since LaVey died, have they?

/I keed, I keed
//that was the same time period the church closest to my house had book, t-shirt, poster and cassette burnings
///Satanic Panic, ya know
*pukes pea soup, spins head*


This scene was the best. I heard some late-teens jump out of their seas exclaiming "OH SHIAT!"
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-25 07:14:00 PM  
See, this is one of the many, many things I like about living in the future. Drag queens have way more political pull with City Hall in NYC than the Catholic Church. Can I get an amen?
 
2013-02-25 07:16:41 PM  

Jim_Callahan: kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.

Well, it's weird that the Catholics are in on the gay-bashing for that reason, but the protestants have been massively intolerant of everything they're legally allowed to be intolerant about (plus a few more for good measure) basically forever.

I think the Catholics have been picking up the habit recently because of all the press and money various bits of bigotry have been making the protestants.


Yeah, not so much. The liberal Catholic clergy have been smacked down en masse by the rightwing troglodytes who have taken over the Church hierarchy. Meanwhile, mainstream Protestant denominations get more gay-friendly every day (not the conservative evangelicals, but everyone else).
 
2013-02-25 07:52:19 PM  

mbillips: See, this is one of the many, many things I like about living in the future. Drag queens have way more political pull with City Hall in NYC than the Catholic Church. Can I get an amen?


Amen, even a bad drag show is more fun than a great church service.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-25 09:51:58 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: mbillips: See, this is one of the many, many things I like about living in the future. Drag queens have way more political pull with City Hall in NYC than the Catholic Church. Can I get an amen?

Amen, even a bad drag show is more fun than a great church service.


Go to church? I was raised Roman Catholic. I would rather have my foreskin fondled by Freddy Kruger or Edward Scissorhands.
 
2013-02-25 11:01:05 PM  

gja: insertsnarkyusername: mbillips: See, this is one of the many, many things I like about living in the future. Drag queens have way more political pull with City Hall in NYC than the Catholic Church. Can I get an amen?

Amen, even a bad drag show is more fun than a great church service.

Go to church? I was raised Roman Catholic. I would rather have my foreskin fondled by Freddy Kruger or Edward Scissorhands.


I was raised Catholic as well, so granted I have no idea what a great church service is like but I assume there must be some sort of grading scale.
 
2013-02-25 11:35:02 PM  

mbillips: Jim_Callahan: kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.

Well, it's weird that the Catholics are in on the gay-bashing for that reason, but the protestants have been massively intolerant of everything they're legally allowed to be intolerant about (plus a few more for good measure) basically forever.

I think the Catholics have been picking up the habit recently because of all the press and money various bits of bigotry have been making the protestants.

Yeah, not so much. The liberal Catholic clergy have been smacked down en masse by the rightwing troglodytes who have taken over the Church hierarchy. Meanwhile, mainstream Protestant denominations get more gay-friendly every day (not the conservative evangelicals, but everyone else).


So why, then, are U.S. Politicians still so goddamn scared of the Catholic and Evangelical churches?  You'd think they'd be pandering to the mainstream if it's votes they're after.
 
2013-02-26 05:41:54 AM  

kd1s: I find it interesting how churches are getting all bent out of shape by LGBT events in general. I recall back in the late 80's and early 90's we used to have LGBT and HIV events in a local church with the blessing of the priests.


That doesn't sound fun at all.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: that was the same time period the church closest to my house had book, t-shirt, poster and cassette burnings


Ugh, I remember those days.

Benevolent Misanthrope: So why, then, are U.S. Politicians still so goddamn scared of the Catholic and Evangelical churches? You'd think they'd be pandering to the mainstream if it's votes they're after.


They make the most noise. Moral outrage, and all that.
 
2013-02-26 07:35:30 AM  
Drag queens are fabulously entertaining.
 
2013-02-26 07:37:20 AM  

mongbiohazard: Religious culture in America has regressed over the last few decades, IMHO. The concept of "turn the other cheek" has been gutted by hordes of scripturally illiterate statists who are busy trying to prove that they're the most religious by hating the groups their political teachers on the right tell them the bible tells them to hate, and demanding the freedom of others be curtailed according to their half-baked religious interpretations. It plays to their inferiority complexes, and gives them people to feel superior to with logic which cannot be refuted since it is often based on lies about what the bible teaches (not that the bible is anything more than a collection of crap some guys centuries ago decided to write to encourage people to get along better - but these folks can't even get THAT right). I blame the ascension of the religious right in the Republican party.


That's actually a longstanding Catholic doctrine, not backsliding over the past few decades.

The Syllabus of Errors by Pope Pius IX in 1864 condemned the following statements as heresy:

"The Church ought to be separated from the State, and the State from the Church."
"Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true."
"It has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship."

Then Pope Leo XIII in 1899 published the Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae which specifically condemned the heresy of "Americanism", which was defined at the concept of separation of church and state and the concept of individual liberty (especially religious liberty, but including freedom of speech and press when that freedom is used to criticize the church or spread heresy or blasphemy).  Official doctrine was that the Catholic Church should be the state church of every government, and people should not be allowed by their governments to publicly worship other faiths.

This wasn't in the middle ages, this was just 114 years ago.

The Catholic Church didn't talk about individual liberty and freedom as good things basically from the period the mid 4th century when the Roman Empire converted to Christianity and began to oppress non-Christian faiths, until The Second Vatican Council in the 1960's when the Catholic Church had to come to terms with the fact that Catholics in some countries were being persecuted.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-26 10:14:49 AM  

insertsnarkyusername: gja: insertsnarkyusername: mbillips: See, this is one of the many, many things I like about living in the future. Drag queens have way more political pull with City Hall in NYC than the Catholic Church. Can I get an amen?

Amen, even a bad drag show is more fun than a great church service.

Go to church? I was raised Roman Catholic. I would rather have my foreskin fondled by Freddy Kruger or Edward Scissorhands.

I was raised Catholic as well, so granted I have no idea what a great church service is like but I assume there must be some sort of grading scale.


Likely some type of bell curve with "not totally boring and he didn't tell us we are all burning in eternity for our sins" at the top, and "you are all excrement and god is going to spit-roast your souls while basting them in hot oil for what you have done", followed by a sermon so boring you actually consider finding something to pull out your ears organs so you need not endure it any longer...somewhere at the bottom.
 
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