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(Global Post)   U.S. government offers to let BP pay a $16 billion settlement . Company execs brace for having to drink only domestic champagne for an entire month   (globalpost.com ) divider line 34
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2013-02-25 09:48:17 AM  
If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.
 
2013-02-25 10:12:20 AM  

ndeans: If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.


Fark off. Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.
 
2013-02-25 10:12:57 AM  
I'd bet a significant amount of money that not a single BP exec takes a pay cut, and this cost is passed directly to the consumers.
 
2013-02-25 10:16:24 AM  

BigBooper: ndeans: If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.

Fark off. Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.


It is the same farking thing. It just isn't called "Champagne" unless it comes from there.
 
2013-02-25 10:20:15 AM  

jso2897: BigBooper: ndeans: If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.

Fark off. Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.

It is the same farking thing. It just isn't called "Champagne" unless it comes from there.


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2013-02-25 10:22:19 AM  

houginator: I'd bet a significant amount of money that not a single BP exec takes a pay cut, and this cost is passed directly to the consumers.


The employees below them as well most likely.
 
2013-02-25 10:35:04 AM  

Stile4aly: jso2897: BigBooper: ndeans: If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.

Fark off. Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.

It is the same farking thing. It just isn't called "Champagne" unless it comes from there.

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2013-02-25 10:38:50 AM  

BigBooper: Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.


Out of curiosity, when did you have your taste buds removed? It is  not the same thing. That's not saying that there are not really good methode champanoisewines out there, but the region in which the grapes are grown has a huge effect on the taste of the final product.

Then again, you're an American, so you probably think Bud Light and Chimay are "the same thing" or that stuff that comes in a green can is actually Parmesan Cheese.
 
2013-02-25 10:46:11 AM  

houginator: I'd bet a significant amount of money that not a single BP exec takes a pay cut, and this cost is passed directly to the consumers.


I'm sure BP will have no problem charging customers more than their competitors who do not have to cover a $16 billion fine.
 
2013-02-25 10:49:55 AM  

CheatCommando: BigBooper: Then again, you're an American, so you probably think Bud Light and Chimay are "the same thing" or that stuff that comes in a green can is actually Parmesan Cheese.


Good grief!  Of course its Parmesan cheese. It says it right on the label!  I can read real good!
 
2013-02-25 10:51:07 AM  

CheatCommando: BigBooper: Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.

Out of curiosity, when did you have your taste buds removed? It is  not the same thing. That's not saying that there are not really good methode champanoisewines out there, but the region in which the grapes are grown has a huge effect on the taste of the final product.

Then again, you're an American, so you probably think Bud Light and Chimay are "the same thing" or that stuff that comes in a green can is actually Parmesan Cheese.


Anyone with decent taste buds know that new world wines are far superior to old world. Centuries of wine making that honors tradition over innovation does not leader to great wines, it leads to making the same old stuff. New world regions unhindered by strict traditions are winning the battle of the wines.
 
2013-02-25 11:04:41 AM  
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2013-02-25 11:29:33 AM  
I never thought I see a sparkling wine snob thread on fark.
 
2013-02-25 11:31:19 AM  

gingerjet: I never thought I see a sparkling wine snob thread on fark.


It is a refreshing departure from the stale beer snob threads that have become commonplace on Fark.
 
2013-02-25 12:16:09 PM  
How about a little jailtime for the CEO?  Yeah, I know he had 0 to due with it (beyond production quotas, if that), but he is the head of the company and paid big bucks to run it.  Whenever a company fails, the CEO has no idea what is going on with the company.  Whenever the company succeeds, it was all the CEO.

Let's tie the CEO to the company in a legal way, probably clean up a lot of wrong in the world...
 
2013-02-25 12:29:22 PM  
www.winetransit.com

I only drink the good stuff.
 
2013-02-25 12:38:08 PM  

max_pooper: Anyone with decent taste buds know that new world wines are far superior to old world.


But they also know they aren't champagne. Taste is personal, but arguing that the new world wines taste identical to those produced in Champagne is just plain ignorant.
 
2013-02-25 12:48:45 PM  
Yes, Champagne refers to the region in which it is from.

No, we don't really care.  In America, it is just a generic name for bubbly awful wine.  Kind of like Band-Aids.  Deal with it.
 
2013-02-25 01:00:29 PM  

CheatCommando: max_pooper: Anyone with decent taste buds know that new world wines are far superior to old world.

But they also know they aren't champagne. Taste is personal, but arguing that the new world wines taste identical to those produced in Champagne is just plain ignorant.


Then don't insult people by inferring that since they are American they don't have taste when American wines are superior to stuffy French made wine.
 
2013-02-25 01:13:42 PM  
its not Korbel's!
 
2013-02-25 01:14:43 PM  

BigBooper: ndeans: If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.

Fark off. Just because it's not made in France, doesn't mean it's not the same farking thing.


I used to think the same thing, but then I learned Champagne is often higher in alcohol, while tasting much nicer.

Can something be as good as Champagne? Of course. Are you more likely to have a great experience if you get the real thing? Of course. It's like comparing Parm to northern Italian cows milk hard cheese. One is assured to be good, while the other can be as good.
 
2013-02-25 01:34:07 PM  
Just call it "bubbles".
 
2013-02-25 01:56:57 PM  

Brontes: How about a little jailtime for the CEO?  Yeah, I know he had 0 to due with it (beyond production quotas, if that), but he is the head of the company and paid big bucks to run it.  Whenever a company fails, the CEO has no idea what is going on with the company.  Whenever the company succeeds, it was all the CEO.

Let's tie the CEO to the company in a legal way, probably clean up a lot of wrong in the world...


You mean you'd throw the BP CEO in jail after he just got his life back?

Heartless bastige.
 
2013-02-25 03:23:04 PM  

ndeans: If it is domestic it is not champagne, it is sparkling wine or whatever name the British have come up with for it.


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2013-02-25 07:29:52 PM  

houginator: I'd bet a significant amount of money that not a single BP exec takes a pay cut, and this cost is passed directly to the consumers.


For perspective, so far BP has paid $24 Billion for the oil spill.   BP has been profitable every single quarter since the oil spill.  Last quarter BP made $1.6 Billion in profit, down significantly because $4 Billion went to settle federal criminal charges.  Sticking with that (admittedly really low based on previous quarters) number means BP is on pace to make $22.4 Billion next year.  So BP can absorb a $16 Billion fine and still remain profitable for the year.

This is their "huge" punishment.  They only get to make $6 Billion in profits next year.  So why would they cut any exec pay?  It's not like they need to.
 
2013-02-25 08:11:12 PM  
Meh. I prefer the Spanish or Italian or even Californian stuff myself, but hey- if one lives in France- enjoy the domestic stuff.
 
2013-02-25 08:48:05 PM  
They should go all Roscoe Arbuckle on BP with a bottle of Freixenette .
And don't give them the courtesy of the reach-around.
 
2013-02-25 08:48:44 PM  

alienated: Meh. I prefer the Spanish or Italian or even Californian stuff myself, but hey- if one lives in France- enjoy the domestic stuff.


Que you dijo.
 
2013-02-25 09:49:02 PM  
Still no love for Champipple.
 
2013-02-26 12:24:48 AM  

Nightjars: Yes, Champagne refers to the region in which it is from.

No, we don't really care.  In America, it is just a generic name for bubbly awful wine.  Kind of like Band-Aids.  Deal with it.


not all domestic (US) sparkling is awful.....

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2013-02-26 03:25:05 AM  

CheatCommando: max_pooper: Anyone with decent taste buds know that new world wines are far superior to old world.

But they also know they aren't champagne. Taste is personal, but arguing that the new world wines taste identical to those produced in Champagne is just plain ignorant.


No two wines taste identical, but insisting on usage of "champagne" exclusively as a designation of origin rather than a category of wine is just buying into bullshiat which has no genuine purpose other than protecting French profits.
 
2013-02-26 08:27:30 AM  

houginator: I'd bet a significant amount of money that not a single BP exec takes a pay cut, and this cost is passed directly to the consumers.


yep until the fines are large enough to cripple the company and forever taint the names of the executive board they will be ceremonial, at best.

There is a chemical company in the middle-land of Michigan that used to (and may still) had frequent,  "acciDental" spills intO the river.  Turns out the fines Were less than the disposal costs. Funny how accidents happen in those cases.
 
2013-02-26 09:10:44 AM  

tom baker's scarf: There is a chemical company in the middle-land of Michigan that used to (and may still) had frequent, "acciDental" spills intO the river. Turns out the fines Were less than the disposal costs. Funny how accidents happen in those cases.


Liveris spelled backwards is "Sir Evil".
 
2013-02-26 12:28:22 PM  

johnny_vegas: Nightjars: Yes, Champagne refers to the region in which it is from.

No, we don't really care.  In America, it is just a generic name for bubbly awful wine.  Kind of like Band-Aids.  Deal with it.

not all domestic (US) sparkling is awful.....

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Fun winery to visit - they revele in "we aren't big".  The director of marketing was serving at the tasting, um I guess board you would call it (four wine barrels and two planks).  She'd been tasting liberally too.  Their Alexander Valley Sangiovese has cellared very well - the 2002 still has lots of structure to it, and the 2000s if you can find them (Ha - still have 2 in the cellar, no not yours!) are fantastic.  Thier sparkling wine is good stuff.  I prefer Mumm Napa myself, but won't turn up my nose at Iron Horse.
 
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