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(BusinessWeek)   If the climate continues to worsen, outdoor workers will need twice as many breaks by 2050 due to heat stress say scientists, completely ignoring the fact we'll have giant robots to do all our work for us by then   (businessweek.com) divider line 115
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2013-02-25 07:43:09 AM
If they double the breaks they'll never work!
 
2013-02-25 07:47:46 AM
We'll also have flying cars. Right?
 
2013-02-25 07:56:47 AM
If the climate continues to worsen, outdoor workers will need twice as many breaks be quickly and efficiently replaced by their employers whenever they collapse in their tracks by 2050 due to heat stress say scientists, completely ignoring the fact we'll have giant robots to do all our work for us by then

Fixed. I'm not exactly optimistic about our future at this point.
 
2013-02-25 07:56:58 AM
Meh, so what. I'll be dead and buried long before then.
 
2013-02-25 07:57:02 AM
2050

That's why most people are against the climate change models, because they all come to a head 50 years from now... They don't give 2 shiats about their children or grand children's lives, they only care about what the weather is doing today...

"It's cold today, so there's no reason to believe i should have to change anything i'm doing now"

"However, if you continue to be destructive, there will be significant complications in 2050"

"2050?! Who the fark cares about 2050?! I'll be long dead by then, so explain to me again why I have to change my habits now?"
 
2013-02-25 07:59:17 AM

CeroX: 2050


Alternatively, scaremongers pick numbers far enough in the future that they'll never be called on their inaccurate predictions. Or some other answer.
 
2013-02-25 08:01:11 AM
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-02-25 08:04:16 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If they double the breaks they'll never work!


3 hours for talk, 1 hour for lunch, 3 hours for work.
 
2013-02-25 08:04:53 AM
Here's what I don't get.  I'm NOT questioning global warming.  But, every day we read an article about some place that's going to be hotter, miserable, etc.  Yet, there MUST be at least ONE place in the world that will become better off  if it averages a few degrees warmer.  Where is that place?
 
2013-02-25 08:05:08 AM
Actually, the smokers will "need" twice as many breaks, where as the rest of us will continue to work tirelessly while we pick up the slack, as we have for all of written history.
 
2013-02-25 08:05:24 AM
Just like the increased number of severe hurricanes we were going to have by this time.

Just like the almost non existent snow fall we were going to have by this time.

Just like the hundreds of thousands of climate change refuges we were going to have by this time.
 
2013-02-25 08:06:24 AM
Nah, everybody will be commuting to Earth orbit via 3D-printed space elevators.

/amidoinitrite?
 
2013-02-25 08:07:36 AM
So, two guys holding up the "Slow" sign and telling you to 'get down' as you drive by. I can easily ignore both of 'em.
 
2013-02-25 08:08:09 AM

eltejon: We'll also have flying cars. Right?


Nope. Sorry. (youtube, sfw)
 
2013-02-25 08:08:36 AM
i'll be living on the moon in a old folks home. the young people go to mars and never visit.
 
2013-02-25 08:09:09 AM
Subby: If the climate continues to worsen, outdoor workers will need twice as many breaks by 2050 due to heat stress say scientists, completely ignoring the fact we'll have giant robots to do all our work for us the global ponzi scheme economy will have collapsed and we'll be in anarchy by then

FTFY.
 
2013-02-25 08:10:00 AM

untaken_name: CeroX: 2050

Alternatively, scaremongers pick numbers far enough in the future that they'll never be called on their inaccurate predictions. Or some other answer.


that would be fine if it was a handful of people you could consider "scaremongers", but considering it's 90%+ scientists, including NASA... I don't consider NASA a scaremonger...

I think people look for justification in not making changes in their lives: "It's all scare tactics" "Here's one report suggesting the opposite of the 10,000 other reports about it, so it's disputed!" "You can't believe everything you read, so it can't be true!"

All the old arguments are the same, and they all boil down to "I don't WANT to make changes in my life because changing my bad habits is too hard!"
 
2013-02-25 08:11:37 AM

Witty Comment: Actually, the smokers will "need" twice as many breaks, where as the rest of us will continue to work tirelessly while we pick up the slack, as we have for all of written history.


Written history?

"Dammit I ran out of rolling papyrus."
"Less talking. More building giant triangles!"
 
2013-02-25 08:11:45 AM

randomjsa: Just like the increased number of severe hurricanes we were going to have by this time.

Just like the almost non existent snow fall we were going to have by this time.

Just like the hundreds of thousands of climate change refuges we were going to have by this time.


uh, no, not by this time, by 2050, as they have always been...
 
2013-02-25 08:12:33 AM
What workers on a heat related break may look like:

fractalenlightenment.com
 
2013-02-25 08:13:40 AM

CeroX: I think people look for justification in not making changes in their lives:


Like what?
 
2013-02-25 08:13:56 AM
Worsen? A warmer, more CO2-rich atmosphere would be the best thing for increasing the planet's biomass.
 
2013-02-25 08:13:57 AM

jfarkinB: Nah, everybody will be commuting to Earth orbit via 3D-printed space elevators.

/amidoinitrite?


a space elevator would have to be 5D technically..  due to the tesseract nature of space
 
2013-02-25 08:14:10 AM

DerAppie: What workers on a heat related break may look like:

[fractalenlightenment.com image 416x300]


That guy taking photographs on the job?
 
2013-02-25 08:17:56 AM

BiffDangler: Yet, there MUST be at least ONE place in the world that will become better off if it averages a few degrees warmer. Where is that place?


Lots of places. Just as one small example, Indiana has been growing grapes for wine since the French settled the area, but it's a bit on the cold side. As the temperatures increase, more traditional growing areas are moving into the "just a bit too hot" range, and Indiana is getting consistently better wines.

But having rising sea levels creating huge numbers of emigrants, a more unstable climate, and all the other negative effects far outweigh the benefits.
 
2013-02-25 08:17:57 AM
Seas rising faster than predictions

New Orleans - Stunning new data not yet publicly released shows Louisiana losing its battle with rising seas much more quickly than even the most pessimistic studies have predicted to date.

While state officials continue to argue over restoration projects to save the state's sinking, crumbling coast, top researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have concluded that Louisiana is in line for the highest rate of sea-level rise "on the planet."

Indeed, the water is rising so fast that some coastal restoration projects could be obsolete before they are completed, the officials said.



I've always heard LA would be swept out to sea but I thought they meant So Cal.
 
2013-02-25 08:18:02 AM
Every year we have at least one farm worker die from the heat in my area. Every year there's a big brouhaha about how there are laws already in place requiring sanitation facilities, frequent breaks in shaded areas, easy access to potable water and other measures to prevent heat related death and every year we are reminded that the owners of some of these farms ignore the law. There is not enough personnel to go around to police all of the large growers in this area, so they know the chances they get caught ignoring the law will be very slim. I really don't see employers in 2050, especially in high heat environments (which are usually low paying), don't behaving any differently regarding the law and worker safety than some in the agriculture industry in my area already behave.
 
2013-02-25 08:18:04 AM
Giant Death Robots, subby.
 
2013-02-25 08:18:52 AM

CeroX: I think people look for justification in not making changes in their lives: "It's all scare tactics" "Here's one report suggesting the opposite of the 10,000 other reports about it, so it's disputed!" "You can't believe everything you read, so it can't be true!"


You have no idea what my level of research into this issue is, and obviously haven't done any real research yourself. That's ok, though, I'm not trying to promote an agenda. Believe whatever you want. History will repeat itself just fine without either of us helping it along.
 
2013-02-25 08:19:59 AM

Witty Comment: Actually, the smokers will "need" twice as many breaks, where as the rest of us will continue to work tirelessly while we pick up the slack, as we have for all of written history.


On behalf of the Smokers of the world. We would like to present you our highest honor. Thank you so much. The world is truly a better place because of you.
 
2013-02-25 08:22:24 AM
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The robots aren't going to want to spend much time outdoors, either.
 
2013-02-25 08:22:24 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: If the climate continues to worsen, outdoor workers will need twice as many breaks be quickly and efficiently replaced by their employers whenever they collapse in their tracks by 2050 due to heat stress say scientists, completely ignoring the fact we'll have giant robots to do all our work for us by then

Fixed. I'm not exactly optimistic about our future at this point.


Someone dock that c***k a day's pay for nappin' on the job.
 
2013-02-25 08:22:57 AM
Pfff...There's no such thing as climate.

You can't fool me with facts and data.
 
2013-02-25 08:23:21 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: BiffDangler: Yet, there MUST be at least ONE place in the world that will become better off if it averages a few degrees warmer. Where is that place?

Lots of places. Just as one small example, Indiana has been growing grapes for wine since the French settled the area, but it's a bit on the cold side. As the temperatures increase, more traditional growing areas are moving into the "just a bit too hot" range, and Indiana is getting consistently better wines.

But having rising sea levels creating huge numbers of emigrants, a more unstable climate, and all the other negative effects far outweigh the benefits.


Thanks, that's what I was looking for.  Now, isnt there SOME place in the world that overall will see a benefit?  Think about it this way:  the climate has been changing for tens of thousands of years.  It can't be that change is always bad, or else one would have to say that each incremental change makes the world as a whole worse off, which would imply that, say, 100,000 years ago the earth must have been a virtual paradise everywhere.
 
2013-02-25 08:24:01 AM
And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride all the way into your mouth through a findus frozen lasagna...
 
2013-02-25 08:25:58 AM
".  .  .   we'll have giant robots to do all our work for us by then" like parking my farkin' ROCKET CAR - GOT THAT?  ROCKET. CAR!  now HOP TO IT.
 
2013-02-25 08:30:00 AM

BiffDangler: 100,000 years ago the earth must have been a virtual paradise everywhere.


If you're into frozen wastelands, maybe...
 
2013-02-25 08:33:51 AM

CeroX: 2050

That's why most people are against the climate change models, because they all come to a head 50 years from now... They don't give 2 shiats about their children or grand children's lives, they only care about what the weather is doing today...

"It's cold today, so there's no reason to believe i should have to change anything i'm doing now"

"However, if you continue to be destructive, there will be significant complications in 2050"

"2050?! Who the fark cares about 2050?! I'll be long dead by then, so explain to me again why I have to change my habits now?"


Only because the world has been coming to an end in 50 years for the last 500 years.
 
2013-02-25 08:39:42 AM

BiffDangler: Thanks, that's what I was looking for.  Now, isnt there SOME place in the world that overall will see a benefit?  Think about it this way:  the climate has been changing for tens of thousands of years.  It can't be that change is always bad, or else one would have to say that each incremental change makes the world as a whole worse off, which would imply that, say, 100,000 years ago the earth must have been a virtual paradise everywhere.


You could say that change will create a new equilibrium. Some species will benefit, others will not. Likewise, some humans will and others won't. It's just that nowadays we've arranged humans in such large groups (i.e. countries) and occupy just about every inhabitable spot on earth, that every group will experience some radical change. We're not prepared for great changes.
 
2013-02-25 08:42:06 AM

CeroX: 2050

That's why most people are against the climate change models, because they all come to a head 50 years from now... They don't give 2 shiats about their children or grand children's lives, they only care about what the weather is doing today...

"It's cold today, so there's no reason to believe i should have to change anything i'm doing now"

"However, if you continue to be destructive, there will be significant complications in 2050"

"2050?! Who the fark cares about 2050?! I'll be long dead by then, so explain to me again why I have to change my habits now?"


If only liberals would care so much about 50 years from now when it comes to the economy. You sure have no trouble making it so 50 years from now, our debt will be a number most people cannot even type.
 
2013-02-25 08:42:06 AM

GORDON: Only because the world has been coming to an end in 50 years for the last 500 years.


2000 years even, or more. Only now the reason isn't religion.
 
2013-02-25 08:44:02 AM
What's two times zero?

If you drink water, eat a little and drink a little Gatorade; everyone will be fine. All of that can be accomplished while working.

Besides; wouldn't that kind of work like the frog in the frying pan?

/ for those unfamiliar with the frog in the frying pan; supposedly, if you put a frog in a frying pan and slowly increase the heat; the frog won't ever jump out, thus roasting itself
 
2013-02-25 08:45:20 AM
According to Al Gore. The only thing that will fix this is to give more money to Al Gore.
 
2013-02-25 08:46:29 AM
I'm sure this was put out by UCS...the "UNION" of Concerned Scientists.
 
2013-02-25 08:48:15 AM

drdonks: I'm sure this was put out by UCS...the "UNION" of Concerned Scientists.


They were joined in holy matrimony?

Kinky.
 
2013-02-25 08:48:22 AM
Guest workers get deported if they ask for breaks and they're a lot cheaper than robots.

Yay indentured servitude!
 
2013-02-25 08:48:49 AM
I, for one, welcome our new landscaping overlords...

www.freedomsphoenix.com
 
2013-02-25 08:50:37 AM

Ilmarinen: You could say that change will create a new equilibrium. Some species will benefit, others will not. Likewise, some humans will and others won't. It's just that nowadays we've arranged humans in such large groups (i.e. countries) and occupy just about every inhabitable spot on earth, that every group will experience some radical change. We're not prepared for great changes


It isn't just temperature ... if it was then Canada and Russia would be loving it.

The fact is that even a 1° increase in the atmosphere and/or oceans represents a massive amount energy added to the system. This energy comes out as unpredictable weather and more extreme storms more often.
 
2013-02-25 08:54:20 AM

Deep Contact: According to Al Gore. The only thing that will fix this is to give more money to Al Gore.


Ahhh ... deniers and their secret love affair with Al Gore.

Nobody on the planet cares about or ever talks about Al Gore except the American anti-science movement. You guys have a collective hard-on the size of Montana for him. What does your shrink say about this infatuation?
 
2013-02-25 08:58:24 AM
www.tkolb.net
 
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